Talk:Big A

Period 142 Big A gun

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Guns and LifeViewer

Unlike oscillators, guns grow, hence (probably) it's better to not AUTOSTART them without either STOP or LOOP. Another solution would be to modify patterns to add eaters (so the guns are capped), but that would involve modifying the patterns. Confocal (talk) 16:10, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

Why not? --Galoomba (talk) 20:19, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

One reason is that one might not want to change RLEs of historical patterns -- so for example if I go ahead and modify some pattern for the sake of ease of demonstration, someone else might reasonably revert my edit on the grounds that it changes the pattern.
For glider guns, there's yet another possibility I did not mention -- adding KILLGLIDERS to the LifeViewer configuration makes gliders disappear, so the pattern behaves like an oscillator in LifeViewer (e.g. you can use Identify on it). That doesn't work for guns that make other spaceships. Confocal (talk) 20:31, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

I meant why you shouldn't AUTOSTART them without STOP or LOOP. Modifying the pattern seems like a bad thing to me too. Also, LifeViewer kills cells on the edge of its grid anyway. --Galoomba (talk) 14:12, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

The viewers are reconfigured to (attempt to) reduce grid size and improve display. I reordered sections, under the assumption that the variants table will be narrower than the viewers. For "QUALITY", see this discussion on the forum. Confocal (talk) 16:04, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

You did not answer my question. Why shouldn't you AUTOSTART a gun without STOP or LOOP? --Galoomba (talk) 23:21, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

The answer is in the first reply in this discussion -- unlike oscillators, guns grow. Now I changed MAXGRIDSIZE on this page to reduce grid size, but I'm not sure if this will work for all readers without lagging. In general, STOP/LOOP seems to be a safer alternative. Confocal (talk) 23:26, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

Why does it matter if they grow? It barely increases lag at all. --Galoomba (talk) 14:49, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

To repeat, I'm not sure if animated growing patterns will work fine for all readers without lagging. Just because it works fine for someone, doesn't mean it works fine for all the intended audience of LifeWiki -- this is similar to other issues, like screen width. Maybe someone else will reply with further information. Until then, I'm probably going to prefer LOOP/STOP for growing patterns. Confocal (talk) 15:21, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

Why would it lag any more than an oscilator would? --Galoomba (talk) 15:42, 17 April 2023 (UTC)