Talk:Agar

Agars in one dimension

When I say Agars in one dimension, I mean that its bounding box is infinite in one dimension, and finite in the other. That describes an "orthogonal agar." Other types are extremely hard to explain. For instance, an infinitely extended barberpole. One example of an orthogonal one-dimensional agar would be traffic lights arranged as such they react in a traffic jam(2n and 2n+1). But then, they are displaced in such a way that they react again, but this time as 2n, 2n-1. This would go on forever. -wwei23 2:14PM 9/20/2015 NY time

1. CXRLE Pos=-6,-5

x = 11, y = 11, rule = B3/S23:T12,12 o9bo2$8bobo2$6bobo2$4bobo2$2bobo2$obo!

1. CXRLE Pos=-30,-1

x = 60, y = 4, rule = B3/S23:T72,12 3o21b3o21b3o$obo6b3o12bobo6b3o12bobo6b3o$3o6bobo12b3o6bobo12b3o6bobo$ 9b3o21b3o21b3o!

-wwei23 2:25PM 9/20/2015 NY time

1. CXRLE Pos=-36,-6

x = 71, y = 12, rule = B3/S23:T72,12 12bobo21bobo21bobo$10bo23bo23bo$8bobo21bobo21bobo$6bo23bo23bo$4bobo21b obo21bobo$2bo23bo23bo$obo21bobo21bobo$22bo23bo23bo$20bobo21bobo21bobo$ 18bo23bo23bo$16bobo21bobo21bobo$14bo23bo23bo!

-wwei23 2:30PM 9/20/2015 NY time

Agars in two dimensions

This one is made out of duoplets.

1. CXRLE Pos=-6,-6

x = 12, y = 12, rule = B3/S23:T12,12 3bo3bo3bo$2bo3bo3bo$o3bo3bo$bo3bo3bo$3bo3bo3bo$2bo3bo3bo$o3bo3bo$bo3bo 3bo$3bo3bo3bo$2bo3bo3bo$o3bo3bo$bo3bo3bo!

The "1." is supposed to be the number sign. -wwei23 2:19PM 9/20/2015 NY time

Potential additional agar

Should we include this one?

x = 128, y = 128, rule = B3/S23 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#C [[ THUMBSIZE 2 THEME 6 GRID GRIDMAJOR 0 SUPPRESS THUMBLAUNCH ]] #C [[ AUTOSTART GPS 2 THUMBSIZE 2 ZOOM 8 HEIGHT 500 WIDTH 500 LOOP 2 ]] (click above to open LifeViewer)

I ask because it has seminatural finite stabilisation xp2_02qt4gg4tq2zciccijjiccicz0gme8338emgzx1y01 in D4_+4 (with a haul, albeit of unknown attribution, as seems to tend to happen often as of late), in the manner of Lone dot agar and Squaredance (both of which have their own noted in their page), I'd like to note this one's also (or perhaps have a page dedicated to these, if such a subjective thing as recognising that something contains a member of an infinite set is considered rigorous enough).

x = 12, y = 16, rule = B3/S23 3bo4bo$b2o6b2o$3b2o2b2o$2b2o4b2o$2b2ob2ob2o$5b2o$bo2b4o2bo$ob2o4b2obo$ob2o4b 2obo$bo2b4o2bo$5b2o$2b2ob2ob2o$2b2o4b2o$3b2o2b2o$b2o6b2o$3bo4bo! #C [[ THUMBSIZE 2 THEME 6 GRID GRIDMAJOR 0 SUPPRESS THUMBLAUNCH ]] #C [[ AUTOSTART GPS 2 THUMBSIZE 2 ZOOM 36 HEIGHT 648 WIDTH 504 LOOP 2 ]] (click above to open LifeViewer)

Also, this page seems somewhat lacklustre compared to the rest of the wiki, should it be amended with (for instance) exhaustive lists of agars within specific periods? Thank you for your time. DroneBetter (talk) 17:24, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

There are certainly some improvements that could be made here -- maybe not least, adding embedded LifeViewers with bounded grids instead of some of the images, so that people can more easily see what is being discussed.

The "diagonal ripples" entry, for example, got temporarily removed on the grounds that "this is not an agar". Well, diagonal lines can certainly make an agar -- but the example given in the current image isn't particularly clear -- a toroidal universe with those bounds certainly isn't a stable agar.

In this edit, H. V. Macintosh changed

ripples, stable (and progenitor of tubs and barges) when double ; most vanish instantly

to

diagonal strands which can occur singly, in pairs or mixtures separated by at least two cells. Transient evolution eventually comes to rest periodically, including vanishing

-- but honestly I don't understand the "vanishing" part of either of those statements. HVM must have meant something by it, and by "progenitor of tubs and barges" -- but shouldn't we just be talking about the stable agar?

Also, while "7/20" seems like a possible density for a diagonal-line agar, it's not the only possibility. Is it maybe an upper limit? Should we say that, instead of just saying "7/20"? Dvgrn (talk) 01:25, 9 June 2025 (UTC)

7/20 is too high a density for a stable diagonal-lines agar, isn't it? Building a random sample, I'm seeing numbers like 5/18 = 27.77+%, which is nowhere near 35%.

x = 18, y = 6, rule = B3/S23:T18,6
bo3bobo3bobo3bo$o3bobo3bobo3bo$3bobo3bobo3bobo$2bobo3bobo3bobo$bobo3b
obo3bobo$obo3bobo3bobo!

Dvgrn (talk) 02:33, 9 June 2025 (UTC)