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There are many other ways to remove the unwanted beehive using a spare glider or additional conduits, but they are generally less compact than this.
There are many other ways to remove the unwanted beehive using a spare glider or additional conduits, but they are generally less compact than this.
==Other H-to-MWSS converters==
On November 18, {{year|2024}} [[AlbertArmStain]] found a different H-to-MWSS, which had a smaller bounding box, though with a higher repeat time of 141 ticks and a higher population count.<ref name="post198122" />
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Later that same day, 2 different reductions were found by [[Period1GliderGun]] and [[Lucy D'Agostino]], both of which reduced the repeat time to 120 ticks.<ref name="post198124" /><ref name="post198137" />
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|rle          = x = 27, y = 43, rule = B3/S23
14b2o3bo$15bo2bobo$13bo4bobo$13b5obo$17bo$9bo3b2o3bo$8bobo2b2o4bo$9bo8b2o5$19b2o$19b2o$26bo$24b3o$23bo$23b2o8$o$obo$3o21b2o$2bo21b2o4$20bobo$20b2obo$23bo$23b2o4$16b2o$16bo$17b3o$19bo!
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14b2o3bo$15bo2bobo$13bo4bobo$13b5obo$17bo$9bo3b2o3bo$8bobo2b2o4bo$9bo8b2o5$19b2o$19b2o$26bo$24b3o$23bo$23b2o8$o26bo$obo22b3o$3o21bo$2bo20bobo$24bo3$22b2o$22b2o6$16b2o$16bo$17b3o$19bo!
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==References==
==References==
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|author = Tanner Jacobi
|author = Tanner Jacobi
|date  = October 16, 2015
|date  = October 16, 2015
}}</ref>
<ref name="post198122">{{LinkForumThread
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|title  = Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits
|p      = 198122
|author = AlbertArmStain
|date  = November 18, 2024
}}</ref>
<ref name="post198124">{{LinkForumThread
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|title  = Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits
|p      = 198124
|author = Period1GliderGun
|date  = November 18, 2024
}}</ref>
<ref name="post198137">{{LinkForumThread
|format = ref
|title  = Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits
|p      = 198137
|author = Lucy D'Agostino
|date  = November 18, 2024
}}</ref>
}}</ref>
</references>
</references>

Revision as of 16:21, 16 December 2024

H-to-MWSS
x = 53, y = 54, rule = B3/S23 11bobo$11bo2bo$11bo$11bo3bo$11bo$12bobo29b2o$44b2o3$50b2o$50b2o$46b2o$ 30bo15b2o$7bo22bo$6bobo16b2ob3o$6bobo16b2obo$7bo43b2o$51b2o5$27b2o$26b o2bo2b2o$9bo17b2o2bobo3b2o$8bobo18b2o7bo$9b2o18bo8b3o$26b2obo2bo$26bo 2bobobo$28b2ob2o$o$3o$3bo$2b2o11b2o11bo$15b2o9b3o$26bo$26bo4$bo44b2o$b obo42b2o$b3o36b2o$3bo36b2o3$42b2o$35b2o5b2o$35b2o2$15b2o$15bo$16b3o$ 18bo! #C [[ THUMBSIZE 2 THEME 6 GRID GRIDMAJOR 0 SUPPRESS THUMBLAUNCH ]] #C [[ AUTOSTART ]] #C [[ THUMBSIZE 2 X 1 Z 8 GPS 30 LOOP 298 WIDTH 600 HEIGHT 600 POPUPWIDTH 600 POPUPHEIGHT 600 PAUSE 2 T 77 PAUSE 2 T 141 PAUSE 2 T 202 PAUSE 2 T 297 PAUSE 2 ]]
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Pattern type Conduit
Conduit type Stable
Input Herschel
Output MWSS
Number of cells 61
Bounding box 47 × 44
Step Unknown
Recovery time
(ignoring FNG if any) 		72 ticks
Minimum overclock period
(ignoring FNG if any) 		Unknown
Discovered by Tanner Jacobi
Year of discovery 2015

A H-to-MWSS is a Spartan (using an eater 1 instead of the 7×9 eater) converter found by Tanner Jacobi in October 2015,[1] which converts an input Herschel to a middleweight spaceship. The key discovery was a very small but slightly dirty H-to-MWSS conduit (shown below), where a Herschel is catalyzed to produce an MWSS but also leaves behind a beehive. Prefixing two R64 conduits to this produces a composite converter that successfully deletes the beehive in advance, using the input Herschel's first natural glider.

x = 31, y = 37, rule = B3/S23 25bobo$24bo2bo$27bo$23bo3bo$27bo$24bobo17$8bo$2o6bo$b2o5b3ob2o$2o8bob 2o$o8$29bo$28bobo$28b2o! #C [[ THUMBSIZE 2 THEME 6 GRID GRIDMAJOR 0 SUPPRESS THUMBLAUNCH ]] #C [[ HEIGHT 500 WIDTH 600 THUMBSIZE 2 ZOOM 10 GPS 8 AUTOSTART T 0 PAUSE 1 T 17 PAUSE 2 T 132 PAUSE 2 LOOP 133 ]]
Primitive H-to-MWSS reaction with a leftover beehive[1]
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The repeat time is 157, but it can be reduced to 72 using the variant below (or other variants, if not required to be spartan).

x = 179, y = 160, rule = B3/S23 71b2o3bo$72bo2bobo$70bo4bobo$70b5obo$74bo$70b2o3bo15b2o$70bobo3bo14bo$ 71bo3b2o12bobo$47bo37b2o2b2o$47b3o35b2o$50bo$33b2o14b2o11b2o11bo$33b2o 27b2o9b3o$73bo$73bo$27b2o$27b2o$31b2o$31b2o15bo$48bo$48b3o40b2o$50bo 22b2o16bobo$26b2o44bobo18bo$26b2o44bo20b2o$71b2o4b2o$46bo3b2o24bobo$ 45bobo3bo24bo$45b2o3bo24b2o7b2o$49bo12b2o20b2o$45b5obo10bo$40b2o3bo4bo bo10b3o$40bo6bo2bobo12bo$38b3o5b2o3bo2$97b2o$47b2ob2o40b2o2bo2bo$46bob obo2bo38bobo2b2o$47bo2bob2o41b2o$50bo45bo$49b2o42bo2bob2o$46bobo2b2o 39bobobo2bo$46b2o2bo2bo39b2ob2o$51b2o2$84b3o5b2o3bo$86bo6bo2bobo12bo$ 86b2o3bo4bobo10b3o$91b5obo10bo$38b2o55bo12b2o$29b2o7b2o51b2o3bo$30bo 60bobo3bo38b3o$30bobo59bo3b2o37bo2bo$25b2o4b2o105bo$26bo20b2o23b2o60bo 3bo$26bobo18bo24b2o64bo$12b2o13b2o16bobo48bo38bobo$12b2o31b2o47b3o$94b o$77b2o15bo$6b2o69b2o$6b2o65b2o$10b2o61b2o$10b2o15bo91bo$27bo91bo22bo$ 27b3o49b2o27b2o9b3ob2o16bobo$29bo49b2o14b2o11b2o11bob2o16bobo$5b2o89bo 45bo$5b2o32b2o52b3o$39b2o2b2o48bo$25bo3b2o12bobo$24bobo3bo14bo$24b2o3b o15b2o$28bo$24b5obo$19b2o3bo4bobo108bo$19bo6bo2bobo107bobo$17b3o5b2o3b o108b2o3$26b2ob2o$25bobobo2bo$26bo2bob2o$29bo$28b2o$25bobo2b2o$25b2o2b o2bo141b2o$30b2o142bo$176bo$156b2o14b5o$157bo13bo$157bobo12b3o$158b2o 15bo$17b2o153b4o$17b2o148b2o3bo3b2o$167b2o4b3o2bo$8b2obo163bob2o$8bob 2o163bo$26b2o146b2o$26bo$24bobo$24b2o140b2o$166bo$9bo157b3o$9b3o157bo$ o11bo$3o8b2o14bo$3bo22bobo$2b2o23bo$76b2o$76bobo$78bo4b2o$74b4ob2o2bo 2bo$74bo2bobobobob2o$77bobobobo$bo76b2obobo$bobo78bo$b3o$3bo11b2o51b2o $15bo53bo7b2o$16b3o50bobo5b2o$18bo51b2o7$80b2o$80bo$81b3o$83bo6$56bo$ 54b3o54bo$53bo55b3o$53b2o53bo$108b2o6$43b2o$42bobo5b2o46b2o$42bo7b2o 45bobo5b2o$41b2o54bo7b2o$96b2o$55bo$51b2obobo53bo$50bobobobo49b2obobo$ 47bo2bobobobob2o45bobobobo$47b4ob2o2bo2bo42bo2bobobobob2o$51bo4b2o44b 4ob2o2bo2bo$49bobo54bo4b2o$49b2o53bobo$104b2o! #C [[ THUMBSIZE 2 THEME 6 GRID GRIDMAJOR 0 SUPPRESS THUMBLAUNCH ]] #C [[ AUTOSTART GPS 60 LOOP 819 THUMBLAUNCH THUMBSIZE 2 THEME 6 ZOOM 4 WIDTH 800 HEIGHT 800 PAUSE 2 T 73 PAUSE 2 T 97 PAUSE 2 T 156 PAUSE 2 T 220 PAUSE 2 T 273 PAUSE 2 T 332 PAUSE 2 T 396 PAUSE 2 T 473 PAUSE 2 T 526 PAUSE 2 T 585 PAUSE 2 T 649 PAUSE 2 T 723 PAUSE 2 T 818 PAUSE 2 ]]
(click above to open LifeViewer)
RLE: here Plaintext: here

Below is the spartan glider-to-MWSS converter used in the Orthogonoid:

x = 131, y = 137, rule = B3/S23 33b2o$32bobo$26b2o4bo$24bo2bo2b2ob4o$24b2obobobobo2bo$27bobobobo$27bob ob2o$28bo2$41b2o$32b2o7bo$32b2o5bobo$39b2o2$57bo$57b3o$60bo$11bo47b2o 8b2o$11b3o55bo$14bo14b2o36bobo$13b2o15bo36b2o$27b3o23b2o$27bo25b2o2$ 112bo$103bo7bobo$16b2o35b2o48b3o6bo$15bo2bo34b2o51bo$16b2o9bo77b2o$26b obo$27b2o$5o$o4bo71b2obo$o76b2ob3o$bo3bo76bo15b2o25b2o$3bo78bo15b2o25b o$123bobo$123b2o3$110b2o$101b2o6bobo$102bo6bo$99b3o6b2o$99bo$16b2o$16b 2o53b2o$71bo$16b2o51bobo$16bo52b2o41b2o8b2o$14b3o94bobo8bo$62b2obo45bo 8b3o$63bobo44b2o$64bo4b2o$69b2o3$26bo$26b3o$28bo15b2o$28bo15b2o$64b2o$ 63bo2bo3b2o$64b2o4b2o$7b2o$7b2o$13b2o32b2o$13b2o33bo71b2o$45b3o63b2o7b 2o$45bo24bo41bo$11b2o57b3o39bobo$11b2o5b2o53bo33b2o4b2o$18b2o38b2o3b2o 7b2o18bo15bo20b2o$58b2o3b2o25b3o15bobo18bo$89bo19b2o16bobo$89b2o36b2o$ 51b2o$52bo$52bobo$53b2o2$92b2o15bo$92b2o15bo$109b3o$111bo2$56b2o63b2o$ 57bo63b2o2b2o$54b3o28b2o38bobo$54bo31bo15b2o23bo$83b3o17bo23b2o$83bo 16b3o$100bo4$69b2o$69b2o$61b2o$62bo6b2o$59b3o8bo$59bo10b3o2$60bo$59bob o$59bobo$57b3ob2o$56bo$57b3ob2o$59bob2o2$69b2o$69b2o7b2o$78bo$76bobo$ 76b2o4$56b2o$56b2o5$72bo$71bobo$71bobo$72bo$73b3o$75bo4$89b2o$88b2o$ 90bo! #C [[ THUMBSIZE 2 THEME 6 GRID GRIDMAJOR 0 SUPPRESS THUMBLAUNCH ]] #C [[ AUTOSTART GPS 60 LOOP 1037 THUMBLAUNCH THUMBSIZE 2 THEME 6 ZOOM 6 WIDTH 800 HEIGHT 840 PAUSE 2 T 159 PAUSE 2 T 303 PAUSE 2 T 362 PAUSE 2 T 415 PAUSE 2 T 474 PAUSE 2 T 547 PAUSE 2 T 571 PAUSE 2 T 627 PAUSE 2 T 771 PAUSE 2 T 817 PAUSE 2 T 876 PAUSE 2 T 937 PAUSE 2 T 1036 PAUSE 2 ]]
(click above to open LifeViewer)
RLE: here Plaintext: here

It consists of a syringe, Lx200, L112, L156, HLx141B, BRx46B, BFx59H, R64, Snark, Eater 1 and the hive-laying H-to-MWSS converter (with the hive deleted by the glider from the HLx141B which travels through the Snark and Eater 1).

The infobox pattern contains initial ghost Herschels marking the three Herschel (or Herschel great-grandparent) locations in the H-to-MWSS conduit. The pattern also includes a common way of reaching the input Herschel by prepending an Fx77, but that additional conduit is not a necessary part of the H-to-MWSS. In the pattern shown in the infobox, a "ghost" MWSS marks the output location.

There are many other ways to remove the unwanted beehive using a spare glider or additional conduits, but they are generally less compact than this.

Other H-to-MWSS converters

On November 18, 2024 AlbertArmStain found a different H-to-MWSS, which had a smaller bounding box, though with a higher repeat time of 141 ticks and a higher population count.[2]

x = 40, y = 43, rule = B3/S23 24b2o3bo$25bo2bobo$23bo4bobo$23b5obo$27bo$19bo3b2o3bo$18bobo2b2o4bo$19bo8b2o4$35bo$29b2o3bobo$29b2o3bobo$33b2ob3o$39bo$33b2ob3o$33b2obo8$10bo$10bobo$10b3o$12bo3$32b2o$32bo$2b2o29b3o$bobo31bo$bo$2o3$26b2o$26bo$27b3o$29bo! #C [[ THUMBSIZE 2 THEME 6 GRID GRIDMAJOR 0 SUPPRESS THUMBLAUNCH ]] #C [[ THUMBSIZE 2 ZOOM 12 HEIGHT 600 GPS 10 AUTOSTART T 0 PAUSE 2 T 90 PAUSE 2 T 170 PAUSE 2 LOOP 171 ]]
(click above to open LifeViewer)

Later that same day, 2 different reductions were found by Period1GliderGun and Lucy D'Agostino, both of which reduced the repeat time to 120 ticks.[3][4]

x = 27, y = 43, rule = B3/S23 14b2o3bo$15bo2bobo$13bo4bobo$13b5obo$17bo$9bo3b2o3bo$8bobo2b2o4bo$9bo8b2o5$19b2o$19b2o$26bo$24b3o$23bo$23b2o8$o$obo$3o21b2o$2bo21b2o4$20bobo$20b2obo$23bo$23b2o4$16b2o$16bo$17b3o$19bo! #C [[ THUMBSIZE 2 THEME 6 GRID GRIDMAJOR 0 SUPPRESS THUMBLAUNCH ]] #C [[ THUMBSIZE 2 ZOOM 12 HEIGHT 600 GPS 10 AUTOSTART T 0 PAUSE 2 T 90 PAUSE 2 T 144 PAUSE 2 LOOP 145 ]]
Period1GliderGun's reduction
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x = 28, y = 43, rule = B3/S23 14b2o3bo$15bo2bobo$13bo4bobo$13b5obo$17bo$9bo3b2o3bo$8bobo2b2o4bo$9bo8b2o5$19b2o$19b2o$26bo$24b3o$23bo$23b2o8$o26bo$obo22b3o$3o21bo$2bo20bobo$24bo3$22b2o$22b2o6$16b2o$16bo$17b3o$19bo! #C [[ THUMBSIZE 2 THEME 6 GRID GRIDMAJOR 0 SUPPRESS THUMBLAUNCH ]] #C [[ THUMBSIZE 2 ZOOM 12 HEIGHT 600 GPS 10 AUTOSTART T 0 PAUSE 2 T 90 PAUSE 2 T 144 PAUSE 2 LOOP 145 ]]
Lucy D'Agostino's reduction
(click above to open LifeViewer)

References

  1. ↑ 1.0 1.1 Tanner Jacobi (October 16, 2015). Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits (discussion thread) at the ConwayLife.com forums
  2. ↑ AlbertArmStain (November 18, 2024). Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits (discussion thread) at the ConwayLife.com forums
  3. ↑ Period1GliderGun (November 18, 2024). Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits (discussion thread) at the ConwayLife.com forums
  4. ↑ Lucy D'Agostino (November 18, 2024). Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits (discussion thread) at the ConwayLife.com forums
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