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::::: Yes, it does. [[User:HotdogPi|HotdogPi]] ([[User talk:HotdogPi|talk]]) 17:22, 25 April 2023 (UTC) | ::::: Yes, it does. [[User:HotdogPi|HotdogPi]] ([[User talk:HotdogPi|talk]]) 17:22, 25 April 2023 (UTC) | ||
:::::: I added several examples to [[LifeWiki:LifeViewer cheatsheet for LifeWiki articles]]. If someone can double-check that "STARTFROM" examples are likely to be better and are unlikely to be worse "from a reader's viewpoint", then "AUTOSTART STOP" examples can be removed. [[User:Confocal|Confocal]] ([[User talk:Confocal|talk]]) 00:15, 26 April 2023 (UTC) | :::::: I added several examples to [[LifeWiki:LifeViewer cheatsheet for LifeWiki articles]]. If someone can double-check that "STARTFROM" examples are likely to be better and are unlikely to be worse "from a reader's viewpoint", then "AUTOSTART STOP" examples can be removed. [[User:Confocal|Confocal]] ([[User talk:Confocal|talk]]) 00:15, 26 April 2023 (UTC) | ||
== ZOOM 64 == | |||
THUMBSIZE 3 does not divide ZOOM 64. I would rather use ZOOM 60 for very small patterns -- divisible by 12, hence by 2/3/4. [[User:Confocal|Confocal]] ([[User talk:Confocal|talk]]) 01:28, 8 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
Revision as of 01:28, 8 May 2023
Formatting
Why revert to an inferior formatting? I already restored the previous version, but I'm curious what was the reason. Confocal (talk) 12:23, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry, I meant to revert some of the changes in the LCM oscillators section (like STOP) and didn't realise there were other changes. --Galoomba (talk) 13:35, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
- As for the two columns: you seem to be the only person who has a problem with that. Two columns fit even if I set my screen to 720p. Just zoom out in your browser. --Galoomba (talk) 13:46, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
- Regarding STOP for LCM section, I think it's a good idea. There are several viewers on the page, hence it seems better to not make all of them continuously running animation, unless necessary.
The number of columns in table-based galleries is already discussed on Tiki bar (LifeWiki:Tiki bar#Single column vs Two columns of EmbedViewer). Confocal (talk) 13:54, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
- Regarding STOP for LCM section, I think it's a good idea. There are several viewers on the page, hence it seems better to not make all of them continuously running animation, unless necessary.
- What about something like Century hassler? Should viewers there remain all stopped, or become all animated, or something else? (That might be a relatively clear-cut case due to large number of viewers, but the idea is that some dividing line should exist.)
In the 42P38 case, one animated pattern is shown in the infobox and several other LCM oscillators using the same pattern are shown in the gallery. I think in this case there's not much advantage in animating the LCM oscillators.
The number of columns depends on whether or not there's the infobox to the right. Is it possible to ensure that the gallery in question appears below the infobox anyway, without creating empty space before it? Confocal (talk) 17:09, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
- What about something like Century hassler? Should viewers there remain all stopped, or become all animated, or something else? (That might be a relatively clear-cut case due to large number of viewers, but the idea is that some dividing line should exist.)
- Again: can you ensure that the gallery in question on the 42P38 page appears strictly below the infobox anyway, without having empty space before it?
Content to the left of the infobox has less screen width available to it, due to the presence of the infobox. "Ideally", there should be some guidelines that acknowledge this, instead of just pretending that there's no problem.
The reference to the number of people participating in the discussion so far misses several points ("complaining about a problem" does not equal "having a problem"; discussions can take time and not everyone here is active at the same time; the discussion happens on Tiki bar, while the question is about reader's experience, rather than an active editor's experience). Confocal (talk) 23:52, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
- Again: can you ensure that the gallery in question on the 42P38 page appears strictly below the infobox anyway, without having empty space before it?
- I have a non-mobile screen and two columns do not fit. They would fit below the infobox; presence of the infobox reduces available width. Regarding mobile devices, see a short archived discussion on Tiki bar: LifeWiki:Tiki bar/Archive/2022#Mobile LifeWiki. Confocal (talk) 00:32, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- It would be nice to hear from more people what they prefer. One column looks very awkward to me, and while more could fit on my screen, two seems like a good compromise until someone figures out a more responsive format.
Also, we should probably move this discussion to the Tiki bar. --Galoomba (talk) 00:56, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- It would be nice to hear from more people what they prefer. One column looks very awkward to me, and while more could fit on my screen, two seems like a good compromise until someone figures out a more responsive format.
- If the goal is to let more people participate in the discussion, I suggest to continue the discussion on the forum. That would remove the dependency on having a LifeWiki account with trusted flag. For example this forum thread, since the discussion is directly related to infoboxes. Confocal (talk) 01:04, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- I don't understand the "STOP" command for anything that doesn't escape the viewer box. It just looks jarring for it to run and then suddenly stop. If you need the background color but don't want it to run, maybe use STARTFROM? (I don't know if this actually works.) HotdogPi (talk) 16:18, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
- I just replaced "AUTOSTART STOP" with "STARTFROM" on the 42P38 page -- does it look like an improvement? Confocal (talk) 17:17, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, it does. HotdogPi (talk) 17:22, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
- I added several examples to LifeWiki:LifeViewer cheatsheet for LifeWiki articles. If someone can double-check that "STARTFROM" examples are likely to be better and are unlikely to be worse "from a reader's viewpoint", then "AUTOSTART STOP" examples can be removed. Confocal (talk) 00:15, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, it does. HotdogPi (talk) 17:22, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
- I just replaced "AUTOSTART STOP" with "STARTFROM" on the 42P38 page -- does it look like an improvement? Confocal (talk) 17:17, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
ZOOM 64
THUMBSIZE 3 does not divide ZOOM 64. I would rather use ZOOM 60 for very small patterns -- divisible by 12, hence by 2/3/4. Confocal (talk) 01:28, 8 May 2023 (UTC)