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B60

2025-02-27T18:52:04Z

Derivative: b60 is related to simkin gun

{{Conduit
|name = B60
|pname = b60
|type = elementary
|conduitfor = Herschel
|bx = 9
|by = 5
|c = 12
|m = B
|dx = -6
|dy = -10
|step = 60
|recovery = 43
|overclock = 35
|spartan = yes
|dependent = no
|discoverer = Michael Simkin
|discoveryear = 2015
|rulemin = B3/S23
|rulemax = B38/S238
|rulespecial = [[Conway's Game of Life]]
|isorulemin = B3/S23
|isorulemax = B34ce8/S234ce8
|plaintext = true
|rle = true
|viewerconfig = #C [[ ZOOM 16 X -2 Y -2 GPS 20 LOOP 61 PAUSE 2 T 60 PAUSE 2 WIDTH 480 HEIGHT 400 THUMBSIZE 2 ]]
}}
'''B60''' is a [[Herschel conduit]] discovered by [[Michael Simkin]] in {{year|2015}} using his search program, [[CatForce]].<ref name="post19124" /> It is one of three known [[blockic]] [[elementary conduit]]s. After 60 ticks, it produces a [[Herschel]] rotated 180 degrees at {{nowrap|(-6,-10)}} relative to the input. It can most easily be connected to another B60 conduit, producing a closed loop, the [[Simkin glider gun]] or [[Simkin's p60]].

If the [[first natural glider]] is not removed, the FNG will obstruct the next Herschel, increasing the repeat time to 43. Assuming effective removal of the FNG, B60 can be overclocked to p35.

Besides connecting to another copy of itself, the B60 conduit has very limited use. On June 26, {{year|2020}}, [[Goldtiger997]] constructed a stable [[46P4H1V0]]-to-glider [[converter]] that makes use of B60.<ref name="post99509" />

== See also ==
* [[R64]]
* [[RR56H]]
* [[Simkin glider gun]]

==References==
<references>
<ref name="post19124">{{LinkForumThread
|format = ref
|title = Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
|p = 19124
|author = Michael Simkin
|date = April 28, 2015
}}</ref>
<ref name="post99509">{{LinkForumThread
|format = ref
|title = Re: Spaceship Eaters
|p = 99509
|author = Goldtiger997
|date = June 26, 2020
}}</ref>
</references>

==External links==
* {{LinkLexicon|lex_b.htm#b60}}

[[Category:Blockic constellations]]

OCA:Iceballs

2025-02-08T16:33:52Z

Derivative: came up with a new name LOL

{{about|a Life-like rule|a hypothetical unstoppable quadratic growth pattern|IceNine}}
{{Rule
|name = Iceballs
|b = 25678
|s = 5678
|char = Explosive
|ruleinteger = 246244
|reversal = B45678/S4578
}}{{stub}}
'''Iceballs''', also known as '''Icenine''' or '''Seeds5678''', is a [[Life-like cellular automaton]] with [[rulestring]] B25678/S5678. It is named for its tendency to produce patches of solid [[agar]] with density 100%, as exemplified below.

{{EmbedViewer
|rle = x = 20, y = 20, rule = B25678/S5678:T20,20
$8b2o$10bo!
|viewerconfig = #C [[ THUMBNAIL ZOOM 20 WIDTH 600 HEIGHT 600 ]]
|position = center
|caption = A 3-cell pattern on the {{times|20|20}} [[torus]] runs chaotically, with average density about 25%, until about gen 435175. Then an iceball forms, which slowly grows, filling the torus completely in gen 435374.{{refn|{{CiteGollyPatternCollection|Patterns/Life-Like/ice-nine.rle}}}} The same pattern, run on a {{times|100|100}} torus, forms an iceball about gen 31300, which fills the torus at gen 31951.<ref name="db99271a" />
|style = width:360px;
}}

No finite [[still life]]s can exist in Iceballs.
Assume (for contradiction) that a finite still life exists, and let C denote the leftmost alive cell in the first nonempty row. For the cell C to survive under the rule B25678/S5678 in the next tick, it must have exactly 5, 6, 7 or 8 neighbours, including at least one of the positions marked 'x' below:

0 0 x x x 0 0 0
0 0 x 1 ? ? ? ? < the first nonempty row; C is the leftmost alive cell (the '1')
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? state of cells denoted 'x' or '?' are unspecified

This contradicts the assumption that C is the leftmost alive cell in the first nonempty row of a finite still life.

==Spaceships==

There are known [[spaceship]]s<ref name="gliderdb" /> of speeds c, 4c/4, 5c/5, c/2o, c/3o, c/5o, c/3d, c/4d.
{{gallery top}}
{{gallery item|{{EmbedViewer
|rle = x = 49, y = 9, rule = B25678/S5678
b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o9b2o9b2o$o2bo10bo6bo10bo2bo7bo2bo$7bo2bo6bo6bo6bob2obo
5bob2obo$25bo17b4o$23bo7bob2obo4bob4obo$24bo19b2o$32bo2bo7b4o2$42bo4bo!
|viewerconfig = #C [[ THUMBSIZE 3 ZOOM 18 WIDTH 1200 HEIGHT 600 Y -10 GPS 5 AUTOSTART T 0 PAUSE 3 T 20 PAUSE 2 LOOP 21 ]]
|position = center
|caption = [[Photon]]s,<ref name="gliderdb" /> left to right: p1 ([[moon]]), p1, p1, p4, p5, p1
|style = width:300px;
}}}}
{{gallery item|{{EmbedViewer
|rle = x = 71, y = 33, rule = B25678/S5678
7b7o19bo5bo$10bo47bo5bo$bo3b2o2b3o2b2o3bo11bo3b3o3bo$2bobobobo3bobobob
o9b3o3bo3bo3b3o11bo3b3o3bo$8b5o14bobo5b3o5bobo7b3o3bo3bo3b3o$4bo4b3o4b
o13bo4b3o4bo9bobo5b3o5bobo$4bo4b3o4bo12bobo3b3o3bobo11bo4b3o4bo$4bo2b
7o2bo16b7o14bobo3b3o3bobo$3bo5b3o5bo13bo3b3o3bo16b7o$b2o5b5o5b2o10bo3b
5o3bo13bo3b3o3bo$o2bo2b9o2bo2bo9bo2bob3obo2bo12bo3b5o3bo$4bo3b5o3bo13b
3ob5ob3o12bo2bob3obo2bo$4b13o17b5o16b3ob5ob3o$3b3o2b5o2b3o14b9o18b5o$
4b13o13bo2b7o2bo15b7o$3b3o2b5o2b3o15b7o14bo4b5o4bo$5bob7obo12b2obo2b5o
2bob2o10b2ob7ob2o$6bob5obo12bobo3bob3obo3bobo7bo4b7o4bo$2b2o2bob5obo2b
2o14bob3obo16bob7obo$7bob3obo15b3obo2bo2bob3o14b7o$4bobob5obobo11bo2bo
bo5bobo2bo14b5o$30bo11bo10bo3bob5obo3bo$5bo2bo3bo2bo17bo2bo2bo12bo3bob
ob3obobo3bo$32bo7bo15bo4bo4bo$35bobo22bobo$29bo5b3o5bo15b5o$28bo3b2o5b
2o3bo16bo$32bobo3bobo17b7o$32b2o2bo2b2o19b3o$57bob5obo$30b3o2bobo2b3o
18bo$56bo9bo$29bo4bo3bo4bo!
|viewerconfig = #C [[ THUMBSIZE 3 ZOOM 15 WIDTH 1200 HEIGHT 650 GPS 4 AUTOSTART TRACKLOOP 3 0/3 -1/3 ]]
|position = center
|caption = c/3 orthogonal spaceships, left to right:<ref name="gliderdb" /> 176 [[Minimum population|cells]], outer-totalistically endemic; 182 cells (Rocknlol, 2020); 180 cells (Rocknlol, 2020)
|style = width:300px;
}}}}
{{gallery item|{{EmbedViewer
|rle = x = 59, y = 38, rule = B25678/S5678
bo31bo$ob31obo15bo$b33obob2o9bobobo$ob33ob2o2bo3bo8bo$ob5obob9obo4b10o
b2o2bobo4b2o9bo$bo2bob3o3bob5o5bo3bobob3obo5bobo10b3o$2b3obo4bo2bobo
19bo5b3o4b5obo$bobo7bobo2bo6b2o6bo3bobo3b6obob5obo$bobo7bobo2bo6b2o6bo
3bobo3b6obob5obo$2b3obo4bo2bobo19bo5b3o4b5obo$bo2bob3o3bob5o5bo3bobob
3obo5bobo10b3o$ob5obob9obo4b10ob2o2bobo4b2o9bo$ob33ob2o2bo3bo8bo$b33ob
ob2o9bobobo$ob31obo15bo$bo31bo7$bo32bo$ob32ob4o$b34o4bo13bo$ob8obobobo
bob19o5bo7b2o$ob6o2bo4b2o2b2obo4b9o2b2o4b2o8b2o$bo5bo2bo4b2o12bobobobo
7bobobo5bo4bo$2b2ob3o2bo11bobo4b2o11b7o2b2obobo$bobo4b2o4bo5bo3bobo3bo
bobobobobob4o3b7obo$bobo4b2o4bo5bo3bobo3bobobobobobob4o3b7obo$2b2ob3o
2bo11bobo4b2o11b7o2b2obobo$bo5bo2bo4b2o12bobobobo7bobobo5bo4bo$ob6o2bo
4b2o2b2obo4b9o2b2o4b2o8b2o$ob8obobobobob19o5bo7b2o$b34o4bo13bo$ob32ob
4o$bo32bo!
|viewerconfig = #C [[ THUMBSIZE 3 ZOOM 15 WIDTH 1200 HEIGHT 800 GPS 4 AUTOSTART TRACKLOOP 5 1/5 0/5 ]]
|position = center
|caption = c/5 orthogonal spaceships, top to bottom:<ref name="gliderdb" /> 414 [[Minimum population|cells]], outer-totalistically endemic (Rocknlol, 2020); 380 cells (Rocknlol, 2020)
|style = width:300px;
}}}}
{{gallery item|{{EmbedViewer
|rle = x = 13, y = 13, rule = B25678/S5678
o11bo$o11bo$o5bo5bo$o5bo5bo$4bobobo$2bo7bo$o4bobo4bo$2b3o3b3o$2bobo3bo
bo3$3bobobobo$5bobo!
|viewerconfig = #C [[ THUMBSIZE 3 ZOOM 15 WIDTH 480 HEIGHT 500 GPS 4 AUTOSTART TRACKLOOP 2 0/2 -1/2 ]]
|position = center
|caption = c/2 orthogonal<ref name="gliderdb" />
|style = width:300px;
}}}}
{{gallery item|{{EmbedViewer
|rle = x = 59, y = 35, rule = B25678/S5678
8bo24bo$8bobo22bobo$6bo24bo$10b3o22b2o$10bo2bo20bo$8bo27bo$2bo3bo7bo
18bo$7bo2b2o14bo4b2o3b2o$2o3bo5bo19b4o2bo$12bo11b2o4bobo4bo$bob2o2bo3b
o16bo3bo3b2o$3bo3b2obobo12bobo18bo$3bo5bobo3bo11bobobo2bo4bo8bo$4bo26b
4o2bobo3bo2bo$6bo31bo2bo4bo$12bo23b2o7b2o$42bo5bo$38bo5bobo$40bo3bobo$
37bo13bo$41b2o3b2o3bobo$39bo7bobo$35bob3ob2obo2bo5b3o$44b3o6bo2bo$36bo
3bo10bo$45bo3bo7bo$50bo2b2o$43b2o3bo5bo$55bo$44bob2o2bo3bo$46bo3b2obob
o$46bo5bobo3bo$47bo$49bo$55bo!
|viewerconfig = #C [[ THUMBSIZE 3 ZOOM 12 WIDTH 800 HEIGHT 500 GPS 4 AUTOSTART TRACKLOOP 4 -1/4 -1/4 ]]
|position = center
|caption = Two c/4 diagonal spaceships (Josh Ball, 2011)<ref name="gliderdb" /><ref name="post4920" />
|style = width:300px;
}}}}
{{gallery item|{{EmbedViewer
|rle = x = 33, y = 33, rule = B25678/S5678
22bo5bo$20bo6bo$19bo3b2o5bo$17bobobo4bob2o$16b5o6b3o2bo$17b4o4bo2bo2bo
$15b6o4b2o2bo$15b4obobo3b2o$13b7o10bo$12b5o3bo2bo6bo$11b6ob2o5bo6bo$9b
ob5o2bo10bo$10b6o3bo3bob4o2bo$8bob4obo3b2obobob5o$9b7o5b2ob5o$7bo2b3o
4bo6b6o$8bo3bobo7b5obo$9b3ob3o2b9o$15b2obob5o$2bo5bobo4bo2b7o$o2b3o10b
8o$2b2o2bob4o3bob6o$b6o4bobobob4o$6b2obobo3bo2bo2bo$3b2o2bo3bobo2bo2bo
$2bo2bo2b2o7bo$9b3o$2bobo2bo2bobo$b2o2bo2bobobo$3bo4bob3o$bo2b2obo2b2o
bo$2bobo5bo$12bo!
|viewerconfig = #C [[ THUMBSIZE 3 ZOOM 15 WIDTH 800 HEIGHT 700 GPS 4 AUTOSTART TRACKLOOP 3 -1/3 1/3 ]]
|position = center
|caption = c/3 diagonal, outer-totalistically endemic<ref name="gliderdb" />
|style = width:300px;
}}}}
{{gallery bottom}}

==Rake==
{{EmbedViewer
|rle = x = 37, y = 24, rule = B25678/S5678
18bo$16bobo8bo$6bo10bo3b4o$7b2o7bo4bobo$11bo14bo$3bo2bo10bo4bo5bo$3bo
4b2o3b3o9bobo$9bob2o3bo2bobo$2o5bo5b3o3bo$2bo6b9o$bo3bob11o6bo4bo4bo$
5bob12o2bo4bo4bo4bo$5bob12o2bo4bo4bo4bo$bo3bob11o6bo4bo4bo$2bo6b9o$2o
5bo5b3o3bo$9bob2o3bo2bobo$3bo4b2o3b3o9bobo$3bo2bo10bo4bo5bo$11bo14bo$
7b2o7bo4bobo$6bo10bo3b4o$16bobo8bo$18bo!
|viewerconfig = #C [[ THUMBSIZE 3 ZOOM 12 WIDTH 650 HEIGHT 500 GPS 4 AUTOSTART TRACK -1/4 0/4 ]]
|position = center
|caption = A c/4 orthogonal backwards rake (Josh Ball, 2011)<ref name="post4920" />
|style = width:320px;
}}

==References==
<references>
<ref name="gliderdb">[https://jedlimlx.github.io/gliderdb-searcher/ GliderDB Database]</ref>
<ref name="db99271a">http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=ak17ea$8st$1@woodrow.ucdavis.edu</ref>
<ref name="post4920">{{LinkForumThread
|format = ref
|p = 4920
|title = Re: Iceballs
|author = Josh Ball
|date = August 8, 2011
}}</ref>
</references>

==External links==
* {{LinkCatagolueRule|b25678s5678}}
* {{LinkForumThread|f=11|t=701|title=Iceballs}}
* {{LinkEppsteinRule|b25678s5678|archivedate=20150422213726}}
* {{cite web
|url = https://web.archive.org/web/20190218043733/http://fano.ics.uci.edu/ca/rules/list.html
|title = Interesting Rules
|author = David Eppstein
|work = Fano Experimental Web Server
|archiveurl = https://archive.is/mSKKq
|archivedate = November 27, 2022
}}

[[Category:Life-like cellular automata]]
[[Category:Rules without still lives]]
__NOTOC__

Talk:0x

2025-01-25T22:54:20Z

Derivative: Created page with "<h2> How does this book mention cgol? </h2> I don't own this book, but if anyone does, then please make a brief outline of the plot and show how it relates to life. otherwise i don't see why this page should exist."

<h2> How does this book mention cgol? </h2>
I don't own this book, but if anyone does, then please make a brief outline of the plot and show how it relates to life. otherwise i don't see why this page should exist.

Symmetrical synapse

2025-01-24T08:29:44Z

Derivative: bettered link

{{Stilllife
|name = Symmetrical synapse
|pname = symmetricalsynapse
|c = 38
|bx = 9
|by = 9
|fc = 36.5
|symmetry = +c
|rulemin = B/S23
|rulemax = B378/S012345678
|isorulemin = B/S2-n3n
|isorulemax = B2ikn34-ijr5-ekr6-i78/S012345678
|synthesis = 6
|plaintext = true
|rle = true
|apgcode = xs38_69ab8ba96z695d1d596
|pentadecathlonid = 38.85030
}}
'''Symmetrical synapse''' or '''mirrored synapse''' is a naturally-occurring {{slcells|38|text=38-cell}} [[still life]]. Despite its size, it occurs relatively frequently in [[soup]] searches, especially in [[One-cell-thick pattern | one-cell-thick patterns]]<ref group=note>For example, it is more common than the [[tub with tail]] and between the frequency of the [[MWSS]] and [[HWSS]] in [http://catagolue.hatsya.com/census/b3s23/1x256/xs38 Catagolue's {{times|1|256}} soups].</ref> due to a [[predecessor]] involving a [[beehive]], a [[honey farm]] predecessor, and a [[traffic light]].

{{EmbedViewer
|pname = symmetricalsynapsepredecessor
|viewerconfig = #C [[ THUMBSIZE 2 HEIGHT 480 ]]
|position = center
|caption = A common symmetrical synapse predecessor
|style = width:300px;
}}

== See also ==
* [[Clips]]
* [[Omnibus]]

== Notes ==
<references group=note/>

== External links ==
* {{LinkPentadecathlonObject|38.85030}}
* {{LinkCatagolue|xs38_69ab8ba96z695d1d596}}

User talk:Derivative

2025-01-23T19:59:03Z

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== Lifeline viewers ==
If you want to add viewers for Lifeline volume 3, please take a look at the page source for the other Lifeline volumes to see how they are done (except vol. 11, which was done nonstandardly and needs to be fixed). Don't worry too much about doing all of it. Volume 3 is ''long''. ~[[User:Sokwe|Sokwe]] 02:18, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

(d/dx saw this)

hey, should I replace the breeder 1 image in lifeline 3 with a viewer?? answer fast (derivative 8:54 cet nov 14 2024)
== ezviewer ==
i heard you were having troubles
<nowiki>{{user:tommyaweosme/ezviewer|bo$2bo$3o!|glider}}</nowiki>{{user:tommyaweosme/ezviewer|bo$2bo$3o!|glider}}

[[User:Tommyaweosme|<span style="color:SkyBlue;">tommy</span>]][[User talk:Tommyaweosme|<span style="color:RoyalBlue;">aweosme</span>]] 15:52, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

<h2> distaff </h2>

probably going to write [[ Distaff|an article about distaffs ]] tomorrow. or tuesday. stay tuned or something haha - [[ User:Derivative|d/dx ]] jan 19 2025 7:22 pm cet

<h2> we're so back </h2>

LIFE WIKI IS BACK UP!!!!! YAY!!!!! - [[ User:Derivative|d/dx ]] jan 23 2025 8:58 pm cet

Kermit

2025-01-21T19:42:51Z

Derivative: the guys at mediawiki told me to be bold, so here we are hehe

{{Spaceship
|name = Kermit
|pname = kermit
|c = 76
|bx = 23
|by = 15
|dir = Orthogonal
|p = 5
|m = 5
|s = c/5
|z = c/5
|h = 77.6
|symmetry = -c
|discoverer = Frank Everdij
|discoveryear = 2022
|synthesis = 267
|rulemin = B3/S23
|rulemax = B378/S2378
|isorulemin = B3-y/S23-ck
|isorulemax = B35c6cn78/S234cejkn5jky6eikn78
|plaintext = true
|rle = true
|animated = true
|viewerconfig = #C [[ HEIGHT 360 WIDTH 600 THUMBSIZE 2 ZOOM 16 GPS 5 TRACKLOOP 5 0 -1/5 ]]
|apgcode = xq5_7728owc4cxc4cwo8277zy2jj3nk0kn3jjzxor9114gf0fg4119ro
}}
'''Kermit''' is a [[c/5 orthogonal]] [[spaceship]] that is notable for having a known [[glider synthesis]]. It was found by [[Frank Everdij]] on February 3, {{year|2022}}, who named it "Kermit" for its resemblance to a frog<ref name="post141177"/>, in reference to the popular Muppets character Kermit the Frog.

On December 30, {{year|2024}}, [[Goldtiger997]] found a final synthesis step for Kermit.<ref name="post200626"/> It was then completed in {{gliders|343|text=343 gliders}} (337 actual gliders and two [[LWSS]]es) the next day.<ref name="post200713"/> It has since been reduced by multiple people.

== References ==
<references>
</ref>
<ref name="post141177">{{LinkForumThread
|format = ref
|p = 141177
|title = Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread
|author = dexter1
|date = February 3, 2022
}}</ref>
<ref name="post200626">{{LinkForumThread
|format = ref
|p = 200626
|title = Re: Small Spaceship Syntheses
|author = Goldtiger997
|date = December 30, 2024
}}</ref>
<ref name="post200713">{{LinkForumThread
|format = ref
|p = 200713
|title = Re: Small Spaceship Syntheses
|author = vilc
|date = December 31, 2024
}}</ref>
</references>

== External links ==
* {{LinkCatagolue|xq5_7728owc4cxc4cwo8277zy2jj3nk0kn3jjzxor9114gf0fg4119ro}}

HF95P

2025-01-21T19:36:17Z

Derivative: that lowercase F pains me

{{Conduit
|name = HF95P
|pname = hf95p
|type = elementary
|conduitfor = Herschel
|convertsto = pi-heptomino
|bx = 22
|by = 26
|c = 35
|m = F
|dx = 23
|dy = -7
|step = 95
|recovery = 66
|overclock = 66
|dependent = no
|spartan = yes
|plaintext = true
|rle = true
|discoverer = Paul Callahan
|discoveryear = 1997
|rulemin = B3/S23
|rulemax = B38/S23
|isorulemin = B3/S23
|isorulemax = B34ce8/S234c5e
|viewerconfig = #C [[ WIDTH 600 HEIGHT 600 THUMBLAUNCH POPUPWIDTH 600 THUMBSIZE 2 ZOOM 10 GPS 30 T 0 PAUSE 2 T 95 PAUSE 2 LOOP 96 ]]
}}
'''HF95P''' is a small [[elementary conduit]] that turns a [[Herschel]] into a [[pi heptomino]] after 95 ticks. It is present as part of many [[composite conduit]]s, including [[Fx176]], F176, [[F149]] and [[Bx222]].

In the pattern shown in the infobox, the final [[eater 1]] [[catalyst]] at the top can be removed to release an extra [[glider]] with [[NW31|systematic description]] NW19T102.

LifeWiki:Did you know/21

2025-01-19T19:52:43Z

Derivative: reworded less confusingly

... that to display the smallest known gun pattern for a [[Gemini]] spaceship at 1 cell = 1 pixel, on a standard-density video monitor, a screen larger than one square mile would be needed?

User talk:Derivative

2025-01-19T18:23:21Z

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User talk:Derivative

2025-01-19T18:23:04Z

Derivative:

User talk:Muzik

2025-01-19T18:20:05Z

Derivative:

== Caterpillar_macrocell_part_1 etc. ==
May I ask you what were you doing there? [[User:Codeholic|Codeholic]] ([[User talk:Codeholic|talk]]) 19:41, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
:I was using wiki pages to transfer the .mc code for the caterpillar from computer to iPad. None of the conventional methods worked. [[User:muzik|muzik]] ([[User talk:muzik|talk]]) 21:09, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
::Have you heard of Dropbox maybe? LifeWiki is not your own file storage. [[User:Codeholic|Codeholic]] ([[User talk:Codeholic|talk]]) 21:25, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
:::That wouldn't work. For some reason, on iOS, you can't select very large .rle or .mc files. [[User:muzik|muzik]] ([[User talk:muzik|talk]]) 21:44, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

== Cite web ==

Howdy -- since you indicated in an edit comment you didn't know how to use {{[[:Template:cite web|cite web]]}}, I thought I'd give you a quick intro. It's actually really easy; instead of putting a bare URL inside <tt><ref></tt> tags, use the following, and fill in the correct parameters:

:<tt><nowiki>{{cite web|url=http://example.com|title=Page title|author=Author's name|date=January 1, 1970|accessdate=Today's date}}</nowiki></tt>

There's more parameters, but these are the important ones. Alternatively, you can see how it's being used e.g. [http://conwaylife.com/w/index.php?title=Loafer&curid=6634&diff=22049&oldid=22048 here]. [[User:Apple Bottom|Apple Bottom]] ([[User talk:Apple Bottom|talk]]) 23:27, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

== General rule of thumb ==

Do not write about your own contributions in the wiki. If they're significant, people will mention it (sooner or later). I'd been waiting for a year (no, actually, I hadn't :)) before Dave created an article about [[weekender distaff]]. Be patient. [[User:Codeholic|Codeholic]] ([[User talk:Codeholic|talk]]) 08:09, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
* By "my contributions", do you mean writing stuff in the edit summary, or noting the process of naming the copperhead? [[User:muzik|muzik]] ([[User talk:muzik|talk]]) 08:38, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
** I haven't understood what you meant by "writing stuff in the edit summary", but edit summary is generally not a problem, as it is meta. I meant process of naming the copperhead in particular, but it also includes (but is not limited to) patterns you found. [[User:Codeholic|Codeholic]] ([[User talk:Codeholic|talk]]) 10:47, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
*** Don't remember writing about any of my discoveries (except possibly Honey factory, which was probably known around the time of the pentadecathlon anyway), so unless you were talking about the c/10 blinker fuse I don't remember writing anything about patterns I found? - [[User:muzik|muzik]] ([[User talk:muzik|talk]]) 11:23, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
**** I mentioned writing articles about one's own patterns just preventively. You know, 50% of new LifeWiki contributors start with creating articles about still lifes, methuselahs or whatever patterns they "discovered". It's good that you're not susceptible to this flaw. [[User:Codeholic|Codeholic]] ([[User talk:Codeholic|talk]]) 22:17, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
*** P.S. When I tried to post this, it said my edit had new external links and gave me the verification thing. I don't see any external links here.
**** Hmm, me neither. [[User:Codeholic|Codeholic]] ([[User talk:Codeholic|talk]]) 22:17, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
***** Unless it was referring to the link in the section before this, which still makes next to no sense since I was still only editing this section when the message appeared. [[User:muzik|muzik]] ([[User talk:muzik|talk]]) 22:18, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

==[[LifeWiki:Tiki bar]]==
Howdy! The LifeWiki's lacked a central discussion page so far, so I've gone ahead and created the [[LifeWiki:Tiki bar]] as a friendly place where the community can get together to discuss things in a relaxed atmosphere. You're cordially invited to join in!

The first discussion I started is on how to best integrate the LifeViewer applet ([[LV:Viewer]]) that is now available on the LifeWiki thanks to [[User:Nathaniel]]'s efforts.

See you at the bar! [[User:Apple Bottom|Apple Bottom]] ([[User talk:Apple Bottom|talk]]) 11:21, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

==RLE snippets==
I appreciate that you're trying to help by adding RLE snippets, but could you exercise a bit more diligence? In particular:

# The title of the page containing the snippet needs to match the <tt>pname=</tt> parameter from the pattern's infobox. For example, the RLE snippet for the [[LWSS]] lives at [[RLE:lwss]], not RLE:lightweight spaceship, which does precisely nothing.
## (Just for the future and because I know it'll eventually come up, capitalization matters, too, so it really has to be [[RLE:lwss]] and not e.g. [[RLE:Lwss]].)
# Once a pattern has an RLE snippet, it usually also needs a <tt>viewerconfig=</tt> parameter in its infobox so the RLE will be played correctly. This is '''especially''' important for spaceships, which will otherwise quickly move off-screen.
# The RLE code needs to be '''correct'''. The [[Coe ship]]'s, for instance, wasn't.

Thanks! [[User:Apple Bottom|Apple Bottom]] ([[User talk:Apple Bottom|talk]]) 09:35, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

:thanks. Being as stupid as I am I was kind of wondering what names I should have used.
:Also, I'm still having a lot of trouble figuring out the config... - [[User:muzik|muzik]] ([[User talk:muzik|talk]]) 09:37, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

::The configuration is a bit... obaque, I'll say, yes. The most important parameters you need to know (and likely want to specify) are GPS (generations per second) for both oscillators and spaceships; and TRACK (track a pattern) for spaceships. The latter takes three parameters: the number of generations to track, and the total X and Y offsets by which the pattern moves.

::As for other parameters, I've found it's generally best to copy the viewerconfig= parameter from another page and tweak them until the embedded viewer looks good.

::BTW, for pages that already have downloadable RLE files it's probably best to make the on-wiki RLE snippet match what's in those files. At the very least it'll make it easier to check that the on-wiki RLE is indeed correct - otherwise it may well be, but it won't be obvious. ;) [[User:Apple Bottom|Apple Bottom]] ([[User talk:Apple Bottom|talk]]) 09:56, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

:::Been doing the copying for the Cordership pages. - [[User:muzik|muzik]] ([[User talk:muzik|talk]]) 09:57, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

::::Cool. BTW, maybe it would be best if you tried to get a page working right before starting work on the next -- one step at a time! There's no rush, after all, and "good" beats "fast".

::::Oh, and a few more notes. First, RLE snippets can contain newlines, you don't need to edit those out. ;) And second, the embedded viewer has so far only been added for oscillators and spaceships, not e.g. guns, so there's no use (yet) in adding snippets for those. [[User:Apple Bottom|Apple Bottom]] ([[User talk:Apple Bottom|talk]]) 10:06, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

==Infobox parameters==
Howdy! I thought I'd give you a quick heads-up re: infobox parameters. :) Parameters such as <tt>rle=</tt> or <tt>animated=</tt> should only be specified if an RLE file, animated image etc. actually exists. If they are specified, it doesn't matter what their value is -- even "false" is interpreted as "this exists", so e.g. <tt>rle=false</tt> will not do what one would think.

All the best! [[User:Apple Bottom|Apple Bottom]] ([[User talk:Apple Bottom|talk]]) 10:59, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
:I tried taking away the RLE line, but then the viewer would fail to appear.

:Also, would <tt>rle=0</tt> also be seen as yes? - [[User:muzik|muzik]] ([[User talk:muzik|talk]]) 11:01, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

::Hmm, without having taken another look at the pattern infobox template I'm 99.44% sure you need to pass <tt>nofile=1</tt> (or =anything, really) if there's no downloadable files, or the infobox will not display either an image or the viewer. Don't ask me why it's done this way; I suspect it's a relic from the days where those editing on here were largely just those who also had the ability to upload RLE/... files.

::And I'm fairly sure it would be seen as that, yes.

::P.S. -- thanks for contributing and writing articles on new rules and things, BTW. ;) [[User:Apple Bottom|Apple Bottom]] ([[User talk:Apple Bottom|talk]]) 11:30, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

==Infoboxes for non-Life patterns==
Also, when you're putting articles on patterns in non-standard rules on subpages of your user page, I'm not sure it's a good idea to use the usual templates such as [[Template:Spaceship]]. The reason is that these populate categories such as [[:Category:Spaceships with period 4]] etc., and the consensus at the [[LifeWiki:Tiki bar]] was that these should not contain patterns that don't actually work in Conway Life. You may want to rekindle that debate, or start a new one. [[User:Apple Bottom|Apple Bottom]] ([[User talk:Apple Bottom|talk]]) 11:54, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
:Was worried about that. Isn't there a way to cancel out the automatic addition of categories?
:or maybe someone could make a copy of the infobox that does not automatically add any categories? - [[User:muzik|muzik]] ([[User talk:muzik|talk]]) 12:43, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

::Those could both be made to work, yes. I'm not a big fan of changing the standard templates just so they can support patterns that aren't supposed to go into the main namespace in the first place, but you could certainly copy and modify them, ideally into your own userspace, say [[User:muzik/Spaceship]]. Template transclusion works just the same no matter whether the transcluded page is in the Template: namespace or not, though if it isn't you have to explicitely specify the namespace. I've set up an example template for spaceships for you. [[User:Apple Bottom|Apple Bottom]] ([[User talk:Apple Bottom|talk]]) 12:55, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

==[[MWSS]] LifeViewer==
The viewer's working fine; there must be a problem on your side. Have you tried clearing your browser cache to make sure you have the latest LifeViewer Javascript?

If the problem persists, please raise the issue at the [[LifeWiki:Tiki bar|Tiki bar]] so it can be fixed rather than covered up. Correct viewerconfig is important. Thanks. [[User:Apple Bottom|Apple Bottom]] ([[User talk:Apple Bottom|talk]]) 15:18, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

==Images==
Howdy, a few tips re: images:

# Use black-on-white, not Golly's default.
# Use PNG, not JPEG, for still images.
# Include a description of some sort when uploading images.
# Ideally, upload images in the size that they're supposed to be used in; don't expect that MediaWiki's image scaling will produce good results.

[[User:Apple Bottom|Apple Bottom]] ([[User talk:Apple Bottom|talk]]) 10:19, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

:You can't upload images as png from an iPad after you crop them. - [[User:muzik|muzik]] ([[User talk:muzik|talk]]) 12:49, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

::In that case iPads may not be suitable for images altogether. [[User:Apple Bottom|Apple Bottom]] ([[User talk:Apple Bottom|talk]]) 21:03, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

==Viewerconfig==
When you add RLE snippets for oscillators etc., please add a viewerconfig line to the pattern's infobox as well. [[User:Apple Bottom|Apple Bottom]] ([[User talk:Apple Bottom|talk]]) 21:01, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

==How to stop the infobox from reading <tt>RLE:</tt> pages==
In reply to your [http://conwaylife.com/w/index.php?title=RLE:parallelhbk&oldid=28074&diff=28074 edit summary] on RLE:parallelhbk in which you asked:

:''So how do I stop the infobox from trying to read these?''

You don't. The whole point of the <tt>RLE:</tt> pages is that they're read by the infobox's Lifeviewer plugin and used to display the pattern. [[User:Apple Bottom|Apple Bottom]] ([[User talk:Apple Bottom|talk]]) 10:42, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

==Pattern parameters==
Howdy, please be careful that you get the vital parameters right when adding new patterns. Readers WILL rely on these figures being correct, but for instance, [[Two cis griddles with two tubs]] and [[Two trans griddles with two tubs]] both had the wrong heat and volatility.

The wiki doesn't have enough editors for double-checking to be viable; the only reason I caught these two is because the template rounds down heat and would thus have put them in Category:Oscillators with heat 0. (If you think about it for a moment, BTW, it's obvious that no oscillator can have heat strictly less than 1.)

So please, when adding new patterns, try and make 100% sure that these parameters are correct. When in doubt use a tool like Jason's [http://entropymine.com/jason/life/oscillizer/ Oscillizer] to determine them. [[User:Apple Bottom|Apple Bottom]] ([[User talk:Apple Bottom|talk]]) 11:33, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

== Editing infobox templates ==

You have made some edits to infobox templates recently, and I want to give a few comments before you make any more.

First, don't edit any of the current templates without testing your edits first. To test your edits, I suggest creating a test template under your namespace. For example, User:muzik/Template:test. To use this template on a page, write <nowiki>{{User:muzik/Template:test|...}}</nowiki>.

When you test your template edits, make sure that the template works exactly as it used to, except for whatever added feature you gave it. Your recent edits to the oscillator infobox template added a new line at the top of every page that used the template (which I have now corrected).

If you want to add parameters to the infoboxes, you should discuss them in the tiki bar first. Also, new parameters need to be explained in the "special parameters" section of the template page.<br/>~[[User:Sokwe|Sokwe]] 02:49, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

== Images ==

While I do appreciate that you wrote an article on the [[pony express]], I'd like to ask you to please:

# Not upload duplicate images unnecessarily, e.g. re-uploading [[:File:Ponyexpress samplesoup gen5000.png]] as [[:File:Ponyexpress.png]].
# Make sure that images used in infoboxes are not so large as to break the layout of said infoboxes and the articles containing them.
# Retain authorship and licensing information when (re)uploading images I created or their derivative works.

I've fixed up [[:File:Ponyexpress.png]], adding all the necessary information and also uploading a smaller version (resized in Golly), but please: don't make ME do extra work unnecessarily. It's up to YOU (and every other LifeWiki editor) to exercise care, clean up after themselves, and not be sloppy.

Thanks. [[User:Apple Bottom|Apple Bottom]] ([[User talk:Apple Bottom|talk]]) 18:46, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

== Article quality ==

When adding new articles, please make sure that they live up to at least a modest standard of quality. [http://conwaylife.com/w/index.php?title=Floodgate&oldid=36380 This] is, frankly, a trainwreck.

I've mopped up a lot after you in the past, but I have neither the time nor the inclination to keep on doing so. We're all responsible adults here (I sure hope!) looking to keep the LifeWiki a high-quality resource, so please do your share and clean up after yourself.

[[User:Apple Bottom|Apple Bottom]] ([[User talk:Apple Bottom|talk]]) 23:43, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

:It's not easy. 14 (nearly 15) is for some reason not considered an adult, I can't produce any decent quality images for articles on mobile (any way to generate these in PC?), and ever since iOS 10 happened Golly has been buggered over and I can't get functional apgcodes. - [[User:muzik|muzik]] ([[User talk:muzik|talk]]) 01:02, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

::Here are some things you CAN do, then (this is not an exhaustive list).

::* Don't upload images if you can't create decent ones. There's nothing wrong with not having any. Alternatively ask someone else to create them, e.g. at the [[LifeWiki:Tiki bar]].
::* Add infobox parameters. If you don't know what an oscillator's period, heat etc. is, use [http://entropymine.com/jason/life/oscillizer/ Jason's Oscilizer].
::* Add a <tt>viewerconfig</tt> if you're adding a raw RLE snippet for an oscillator, spaceship etc.
::* Create missing category pages as necessary/appropriate.
::* Proofread for spelling, grammar and style.

::It doesn't matter whether you're 14 or 140. Nobody's expecting you to do things you can't do, but please do the things you can indeed do. And if you can't do something well, for whatever reason, please consider not doing it and instead asking someone else who's in a better position to do it. (Again, the Tiki bar is a good place for this, I think.) [[User:Apple Bottom|Apple Bottom]] ([[User talk:Apple Bottom|talk]]) 13:18, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

:::How do you create your images though? - [[User:muzik|muzik]] ([[User talk:muzik|talk]]) 21:07, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

::::I wrote a script to convert RLE files to images. [[User:Apple Bottom|Apple Bottom]] ([[User talk:Apple Bottom|talk]]) 10:57, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

== Notability ==

I ran into your honey factory entry in one of the [http://www.conwaylife.com/wiki/Category:Pages_with_raw_RLE_code_but_no_uploaded_pattern_files Pages Needing Attention] lists, and it got me worrying. Another example is floodgate. I'm not sure if there are other cases out there, or if this was just a quick experiment with the Constellation category back in January. (?)

At a first glance, I think these two definitions should be removed. The problem with them is that, well, nobody has ever used these terms (as far as I can tell). A good rule of thumb seems to be that if a term hasn't been used multiple times by multiple people other than the term's inventor, in a discussion on the forums or elsewhere, then it shouldn't be cluttering up the LifeWiki... yet!

If it's important enough that a particular term end up in the LifeWiki, then a good way to make that happen is to bring it up in discussions, and get other people interested. The proof that it's actually interesting enough to belong on the LifeWiki is when several people-other-than-you actually use it regularly.

This lets us dodge a whole series of thorny questions about whether the name is appropriate or not, whether someone else could come up with a better name, and so on. If it's in general use, then it's useful to record it. If it's not in general use, maybe it will be in a couple of years, and that's fine -- but that means it should get into the LifeWiki in a couple of years, not now.

...Sound reasonable?

Thanks for all your work on the LifeWiki, by the way! I always feel a little evil when I want to nominate particular articles for deletion, but sometimes it just seems like the best idea. [[User:Dvgrn|Dvgrn]] ([[User talk:Dvgrn|talk]]) 18:08, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

:Just to chime in -- deletion is much less evil if you move a problematic article to a subpage of the creator's user page instead (and then edit it so it doesn't show up in the usual categories anymore). That way the work that was put in wasn't for naught, but the main namespace remains free of non-notable material. It's the best of both worlds.

:Outright deletion is still appropriate for pages that don't belong anywhere on the LifeWiki, of course. -- [[User:Apple Bottom|Apple Bottom]] ([[User talk:Apple Bottom|talk]]) 21:13, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

::Subpage seems fine then, I'll probably be too lazy to actually work on them though, but maybe occasionally. - [[User:muzik|muzik]] ([[User talk:muzik|talk]])

== Oscillator volatility ==

Howdy,

first of all, thanks for the new articles on those smallest period-''n'' oscillators. Second, you seem to be having some trouble with figuring out [[volatility|volatilities]], so I thought I'd give you a primer.

It's actually really simple. I presume you're using Oscillizer to analyze these? Using [[Pseudo-barberpole on rattlesnake]] as an example, you may have gotten the following results:

[[File:Oscillizer pseudobarberpoleonrattlesnake.png|center]]

The volatility figure you're looking for here is 62.64% (you seem to have gone for the strict volatility instead). There's a twist, though, in that Oscillizer reports volatilities as percentages, while the LifeWiki gives them as fractions.

In other words, a volatility of 62.64% corresponds to 0.6264. And we also round volatilities to two decimal digits, so the [http://conwaylife.com/w/index.php?title=Pseudo-barberpole_on_rattlesnake&diff=37023&oldid=37010 correct infobox parameter] in this case would be <tt>v = 0.63</tt>.

I hope that clears things up.

P.S. -- you created a bunch of redirects to a currently non-existent article, [[Adjustable glider loops]]. You ARE going to write that now, aren't you? ;)

[[User:Apple Bottom|Apple Bottom]] ([[User talk:Apple Bottom|talk]]) 09:25, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

== Further tips and requests ==

Howdy, some more tips and requests.

1) There's no need to ask admins to delete redirects created after moving a page; MediaWiki has an option to avoid creating them in the first place:

[[File:Page move no redirect.png|center]]

2) When creating articles for patterns that do not have an RLE file uploaded (a proper file, not an on-wiki RLE snippet!), please specify <tt>nofile = true</tt> in the infobox, NOT <tt>rle = true</tt>. This will ensure that a) there's no links leading nowhere; and b) the relevant tracking categories are filled in, allowing admins to identify which articles are missing RLE files, and create/upload those files.

3) When using Mark Niemiec's pattern database, why not specify the glider synthesis count for a pattern if he lists it? (E.g. 20 for [[Merzenich's p64]].)

4) Please apply some common sense when naming articles. It should be obvious that "Merzenich's P64 4 blocks hassling 2 beehives and 2 R pentominos" in Mark's database is missing a semicolon, and that "Merzenich's p64" and "4 blocks hassling 2 beehives and 2 R-pentominoes" are really two different names for the same object.

5) As with all other infobox paramters, please make sure the <tt>viewerconfig</tt> is reasonably correct -- e.g. not looping every 48 generations for a period-64 oscillator.

6) Finally, please add missing categories as necessary (using the right templates, of course). You're already mostly doing this, but there were a few left missing after your latest batch of edits.

As a general principle -- if you're creating/editing pages it's your duty to "clean up after yourself" and make sure that they're in a good shape, that information listed is correct, and so on. The less work others have to do as a result of your edits, the better!

And all this said, thanks for your contributions! [[User:Apple Bottom|Apple Bottom]] ([[User talk:Apple Bottom|talk]]) 21:18, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

That's about all I can think of for now.

: 1) I am well aware of this, and have used it extensively on other wikis, but it doesn't show up for me. I would use it if it actually showed up, trust me.

: 5) seems I forgot the looping was still there.

- [[User:muzik|muzik]] ([[User talk:muzik|talk]]) 21:37, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

==Even more tips==

Howdy, and first of all, thanks for all the continuing contributions. A few more requests:

1) Could you please create all new missing categories, at least where category templates to do this are already available? For example, you recently missed [[:Category:Oscillators with 416 cells]], [[:Category:Oscillators with 106 cells]] and [[:Category:Oscillators with heat 127]], though you created other categories for the articles appearing in these.

2) Could you please include the header line for RLE snippets in the <tt>RLE:</tt> namespace? For instance, on [[RLE:Twinbeesshuttleshasslingblinker]], don't just put

17b2o31bo$2o15bobo7b2o10b2o8b2o15b2o$2o17bo7b2o10b2o7b2o16b2o$17b3o29b
2o2b2o4$17b3o29b2o2b2o$2o17bo12b3o13b2o16b2o$2o15bobo29b2o15b2o$17b2o
31bo!

but rather put

x = 68, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
17b2o31bo$2o15bobo7b2o10b2o8b2o15b2o$2o17bo7b2o10b2o7b2o16b2o$17b3o29b
2o2b2o4$17b3o29b2o2b2o$2o17bo12b3o13b2o16b2o$2o15bobo29b2o15b2o$17b2o
31bo!

(This'll make it much easier to create "proper" RLE files and upload them.)

3) Could you please adjust the viewer config for oscillators? In particular, could you make sure that the entire oscillator is shown in the embedded viewer? The viewer applet may get the size wrong if the oscillator is (much) larger in phases other than the one encoded by the RLE.

<tt>GPS</tt> values are important, too. A period-2 oscillator is best displayed at a different speed than (say) a period-200 oscillator.

"Good" viewer configs are a bit of a black art, but if you fiddle with them a bit you'll quickly get a feeling for them.

4) On the subject of viewerconfigs -- as I said above, please also make sure that when using the <tt>LOOP</tt> viewer command, the period given is actually '''correct'''. When in doubt, leave out the LOOP command, it isn't really needed for oscillators.

5) Finally, please make sure that the RLE snippets you upload are correct (i.e. actually encode the pattern, rather than e.g. a predecessor). I fixed up the snippet for [[P200 traffic jam]], but I don't have the time to check every single RLE snippet. Running an RLE snippet through Oscillizer is a good way of testing it: if Oscillizer complains that it cannot determine the period, chances are that the RLE is not correct.

All in all -- when you're finished with a new entry, it should be in the best state it can be. Nobody's perfect, but please don't leave things half-finished (or even 90% finished!); YOU are responsible for your work! And don't sacrifice quality for the sake of quantity; it's better to write one good entry than two that need clean-up. (There's always another day for more contributions, after all.)

And this said, again, thanks for the contributions, and if you need help or have questions, the Tiki Bar is always serving drinks. -- [[User:Apple Bottom|Apple Bottom]] ([[User talk:Apple Bottom|talk]]) 12:53, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

:If you want the articles to be in the best state they can be, would you mind linking the script that lets you generate pattern images? Not trying to be rude or anything, but it would certaintly be a step in the right direction if you want me to create more complete articles.

:As for everything else, I'll do what I can. - [[User:muzik|muzik]] ([[User talk:muzik|talk]]) 13:17, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

::The script's not online anywhere, and isn't in a state where I could release it right now. I'll see what I can do about beating it into shape, but it may take a while, I don't usually have that much spare time to spend on these things. -- [[User:Apple Bottom|Apple Bottom]] ([[User talk:Apple Bottom|talk]]) 13:43, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

==apgcode infobox parameter==

BTW, good work on adding those missing <tt>apgcode=</tt> parameters to pattern infoboxes. There's quite a few of these left -- the following categories track articles missing this parameter:

* [[:Category:Oscillators with no apgcode infobox parameter]]
* [[:Category:Spaceships with no apgcode infobox parameter]]
* [[:Category:Still lifes with no apgcode infobox parameter]]

So if you're in the mood, there's a lot of low-hanging fruit waiting to be picked there! (Due to [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Job_queue the way that MediaWiki works], these categories may take a while to be fully populated -- in particular, the "spaceships" one is empty right now, but it certainly won't stay empty.) [[User:Apple Bottom|Apple Bottom]] ([[User talk:Apple Bottom|talk]]) 13:54, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

==Spaceships in other rules==
I'll take your word that [http://conwaylife.com/w/index.php?title=Spaceship&curid=24&diff=39688&oldid=39676 this] was indeed incorrect (though I don't quite understand why; perhaps you could be so kind and explain), but I'd like to caution you to not throw around words like "lie" so easily. A lie is a deliberate misstatement intended to deceive — and calling someone a liar is a pretty grave insult. If a statement is factually incorrect, describe it as such, but don't call it a lie unless you have reason to believe it was placed deliberately. [[User:Apple Bottom|Apple Bottom]] ([[User talk:Apple Bottom|talk]]) 00:11, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

==List of rules investigated on Catagolue==
Hi, just wanted to let you know there's no need to update this manually. No real harm in doing so, of course, but I'm keeping it updated semi-automatically, and any changes you make will be overwritten anyway. [[User:Apple Bottom|Apple Bottom]] ([[User talk:Apple Bottom|talk]]) 21:15, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
:That I know - I was just doing it to confirm the fact that all rules without B0, B1 and B2 and without survival conditions and with at least B3 were all searched, which seems to now be true. - [[User:muzik|muzik]] ([[User talk:muzik|talk]]) 21:37, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

::Fair enough - and to qualify my earlier statement, I of course look at the page's history to see if anyone else has changed it, and if so, try to incorporate those changes (such as additions of rule names). [[User:Apple Bottom|Apple Bottom]] ([[User talk:Apple Bottom|talk]]) 11:39, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

==The list of rules, again==
Re: [http://conwaylife.com/w/index.php?title=List_of_rules_investigated_on_Catagolue/Hexagonal&diff=50686&oldid=50507 this edit] --- since I'm the one maintaining these lists, I'd like you to ask to not make changes like that that'll disrupt my workflow for no good reason. Unless, of course, YOU are volunteering to take over maintainership of these lists, in which case I'll stop updating them so you can go wild. [[User:Apple Bottom|Apple Bottom]] ([[User talk:Apple Bottom|talk]]) 18:16, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

:Surely it wouldn't be that difficult to split up the hexagonal rulespace list so the script could fill them in individually, though? - [[User:muzik|muzik]] ([[User talk:muzik|talk]]) 16:17, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

== Check pattern collections before editing ==

Your recent table in the [[Spaceship#Elementary_spaceships|elementary spaceship]] section of the spaceship page has many errors. Please check the [https://github.com/Matthias-Merzenich/jslife-moving relevant pattern collection] before adding information to the wiki.

Just from memory ''at least'' the following are wrong as of this posting (all orthogonal): 3c/9, 2c/10, 5c/15, 10c/20<br/>~[[User:Sokwe|Sokwe]] 02:04, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

== "Aircraft carrier" vs. "carrier" ==

I've been slowly going through and making adjustments to various articles, before running the auto-upload script to collect all your new still life patterns (and other recent additions) for the LifeWiki pattern collection.

For some reason I've been unable to stand the idea of creating files with names like "aircraftcarrierbridgeaircraftcarrier_synth.rle", when the old form "carrierbridgecarrier_synth.rle" seems so reasonable by comparison. "Carrier" has been an unambiguous short form of "aircraft carrier" for a long time. I've also ventured to rename one article ( the [[Carrier_siamese_carrier|a.c. siamese a.c one]]) back, because the switch to a new name was only partly done anyway -- the actual article text wasn't adjusted.

Really I'd like to move back all of the pages that now say "aircraft carrier" instead of just "carrier", on similar grounds. I feel a bit guilty about doing that, because you no doubt had some reason for making that change semi-systematically in a lot of places. Does that set of moves still seem like it was a good idea? We still have other articles like [[cis-carrier-tie]] and [[trans-carrier-tie]], which don't match your new additions like [[Cis-aircraft carrier tie snake]].

If I take the responsibility for changing all these back to plain "carrier" and giving them matching pnames, it would probably make sense to also figure out what you were doing to upload object names to Catagolue. How did that work exactly? There's at least one [[https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xs12_3123c4go/b3s23 typo left to be fixed]], anyway.

-- If anyone objects to further changes to these articles, I could easily be convinced to leave them all as they are. There's an awfully big list of things I'd much rather be working on, but it seems like a good idea to get things cleaned up as much as possible before pulling the trigger on the next auto-upload. [[User:Dvgrn|Dvgrn]] ([[User talk:Dvgrn|talk]]) 20:58, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

:I'm fine with them being moved back to their original pages, in cases where the "aircraft carrier" form of the page name is unwieldily long (>5 words). - [[User:muzik|muzik]] ([[User talk:muzik|talk]]) 21:14, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

::To be honest, I think most, if not all, of these pages would benefit from "aircraft" being removed, considering that there is virtually no confusion caused by simply calling it a carrier, which also seems to be a more common term than typing out the full name. [[User:Ian07|Ian07]] ([[User talk:Ian07|talk]]) 01:45, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

::: Here are the most recently created or changed article names: [[aircraft carrier bridge aircraft carrier]], [[trans-aircraft carrier tie snake]], [[cis-aircraft carrier tie snake]], [[aircraft carrier bridge snake]], [[aircraft carrier siamese shillelagh]], [[aircraft carrier bridge aircraft carrier]], [[aircraft carrier siamese canoe]], [[aircraft carrier siamese tub with tail]], [[aircraft carrier siamese very long snake]], [[aircraft carrier siamese hook-with-tail hook]], [[aircraft carrier siamese hook-with-tail tail]], [[aircraft carrier tie bipole]], [[aircraft carrier siamese eater tail]], [[aircraft carrier siamese eater head]], [[trans-aircraft carrier down on table]], [[trans-aircraft carrier up on table]], [[cis-aircraft carrier down on table]], [[cis-aircraft carrier up on table]], [[aircraft carrier with feather]].

::: A lot of these were created as new articles for the Great 12-Bit Project, but several were deliberately moved. I'm still not clear on why "aircraft carrier" looked like a better identifier than "carrier". Was it something to do with the alphabetical-order standardization rule that started getting followed about the same time?

::: I'm having a hard time seeing why it would be a good idea to move back to "carrier" for names with >5 words, but not for the rest of the articles. I'll probably change at least the pnames for all of the above, because if I wait until after the bulk upload it will mean more cleanup needed on the server side. Will probably leave the actual article changes for a while in hopes that someone else will make those adjustments. [[User:Dvgrn|Dvgrn]] ([[User talk:Dvgrn|talk]]) 13:41, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

==Synthesis patterns==
I've been working my way through the hundreds of patterns collected by the auto-upload script, cleaning up the ones that were incorrect in various ways -- missing RLE headers, bad links, and so on. A recurring theme has been pattern syntheses copied from Mark Niemiec's database, with links included and everything, all loaded on December 21, 2018 ([http://conwaylife.com/w/index.php?title=RLE:Halfbakery_synth&oldid=52549 example]).

Unfortunately the home.interserv.com links have been dead for years. It's been a good bit of work cleaning all these up, so I'd like to try and make sure that no more _synth contributions show up with those dead URLs in them.

I very recently wrote the new part of the auto-upload script that handles _synth files, so there's no way anyone but me could know how it's supposed to work yet. Will have to find the right place to add some decent documentation. Meanwhile I'm putting this note here just because you're one of the few people that has added _synth files to the RLE namespace so far.

=== Standardization of comment lines ===
There shouldn't be any need to add #N name lines or any URL links in the RLE namespace pattern file. The script will automatically generate an #N header line, plus a link to the pattern article and to the location of the synthesis RLE file once it gets uploaded to conwaylife.com/patterns. An #O line giving the discoverer of the synthesis would be good if the information is available, and zero or more #C lines after that with any further details (though I think usually that kind of thing can just go in the article, and then the automatic link to the article will get people to that information.)

Also I've been adding a comment line with a direct link to the right place in Mark's database. There's no way to auto-generate that line yet, so it seems maybe useful to have it in the RLE: namespace pattern. To get the URL, go to [http://conwaylife.com/ref/mniemiec/lifesrch.htm Mark's search page], paste in the RLE for the pattern being synthesized, and scroll down and find the '''second''' link to the pattern name in the search results table.

I'd actually like to suggest holding off on copying large amounts of information from Mark Niemiec's database for the next little while, though. An updated version of Mark's database might show up any year now, and possibly any month, and it may become possible to set up automatic links from pattern pages somehow. Anyway the new version of the database will probably have better syntheses for a lot of patterns, so there's not too much point in uploading lots of static copies of the current state of the database.

Sound reasonable? I'm just making half of this up as I go along, trying to get this auto-upload trick to work... Suggestions would be welcome for where the documentation for _synth standardization should go. Where would ''you'' look for it? [[User:Dvgrn|Dvgrn]] ([[User talk:Dvgrn|talk]]) 11:52, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

==[[Familiar fours]]==
Shortly after Land of lakes and four eaters were removed (by dvgrn or someone), you added them back. Can we please not have edit wars? There’s already been one this year. [[User:Moosey|Moosey]] ([[User talk:Moosey|talk]]) 18:15, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

: Agreed. At the very least, I'd like to see an explanation of A) what these patterns even are and B) whether their names have actually been used anywhere other than the wiki. Even then, are they really "familiar" enough to be mentioned in the article? I ''might'' have seen a constellation of two bi-ponds once, but definitely not four eaters. [[User:Ian07|Ian07]] ([[User talk:Ian07|talk]]) 19:43, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

:: I agree with Ian07. If you really need to add them to the article, please, at the bare minimum, provide an image or RLE or something of each. [[User:Moosey|Moosey]] ([[User talk:Moosey|talk]]) 01:03, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

::: The second round of re-adding the exact same text should definitely not have happened the way it did. In a case like this where there's very clear disagreement about what belongs or doesn't belong in an article, it's just plain not good enough to provide a reference only in an edit summary. Most LifeWiki users don't obsessively read the edit summaries...

::: I've added a reference where it belongs, and with any luck have also changed the offending text just enough that it will be acceptable to everyone. (But if someone edits it further, I promise not to just change it back without any discussion.) [[User:Dvgrn|Dvgrn]] ([[User talk:Dvgrn|talk]]) 16:21, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

== Demonstrating symmetries ==

Hello! I have seen that you are starting to reupload symmetry images and use them for the new [[Kinetic symmetry#Still lifes]]. They look a bit too small and extra marks besides the black-and-white soup are hard to see. How about a LifeViewer-based solution, like [[Template:Sym-demo]] that I invented for symmetry articles before static/minor-static/kinetic division? [[User:GUYTU6J|GUYTU6J]] ([[User talk:GUYTU6J|talk]]) 09:39, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

: I don't think viewers can get that small, and I've had a lot of difficulties with pages that include a lot of viewer windows (which was one of the reasons behind em splitting the symmetry page in the first place). - [[User:muzik|muzik]] ([[User talk:muzik|talk]]) 13:50, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

:: Mmm, indeed, a lot of viewers could impose stress on page loading. But I'd say their advantage lies in the simplicity of formatting in a nice, consistent manner. Now that I think about it, images should be able to do that equally well if carefully generated with the same param settings. [[User:GUYTU6J|GUYTU6J]] ([[User talk:GUYTU6J|talk]]) 14:45, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

== The two templates you're adding ==

# There are many p2s with 17-20 bits without syntheses.
# The frequency of some of the objects you're adding the template to (such as Phoenix 1) '''is''' known. [[User:HotdogPi|HotdogPi]] ([[User talk:HotdogPi|talk]]) 21:56, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

:# Yes, I did end up noticing that. I have the cases I've added it to so far on mind and will revisit them to clarify this.
:# Keep in mind these templates are placeholders for now - they're intended to be replaced with their actual frequency.
- [[User:muzik|muzik]] ([[User talk:muzik|talk]]) 21:58, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

== Why did <nowiki>__NOTOC__</nowiki> get removed in many pages? ==

On short pages where sections are easily seen, table of contents does not seem very necessary. [[User:GUYTU6J|GUYTU6J]] ([[User talk:GUYTU6J|talk]]) 08:29, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

: It was used somewhat inconsistently across pattern pages, and since I intended to make them more consistent (and didn't see much of a problem with the table of contents being present) I ended up just getting rid of it. - [[User:muzik|muzik]] ([[User talk:muzik|talk]]) 15:12, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

== You recently re-split a combined [[Wing]] article ==

The recent history of [[Wing]] is a little worrisome. A couple of people discussed (on [[Talk:Wing]], where such things are supposed to be discussed) the idea of merging the three wing-variant articles.

Now, maybe your plan of adding categories to make three articles again is a good idea -- I can't really tell.

But it does seem clear that just jumping in and undoing someone else's recent changes is not terribly polite. Did you just not notice the existence of that Talk-page discussion, or what exactly happened there? In the future, can you please check carefully for discussions of this kind, before reverting recent changes?

If you add your own opinion to the relevant discussion, give fair warning of upcoming changes, and wait a reasonable amount of time to see if there are objections, then nobody will complain about this kind of thing.

It looks like you've left some further cleanup that will need to happen, if your three-pages proposal is accepted. For example, you seem to have "This article is about the induction coil." twice in the Wing article, and "Cordership" isn't reliably capitalized. [[User:Dvgrn|Dvgrn]] ([[User talk:Dvgrn|talk]]) 14:34, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

: I did not in fact know said talk page discussion existed. - [[User:muzik|muzik]] ([[User talk:muzik|talk]]) 16:18, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

== Image replacement ==
Why are you lowering the resolution of still life images? [[User:HotdogPi|HotdogPi]] ([[User talk:HotdogPi|talk]]) 01:08, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
:Just noticed that they were smaller (although it's hard to tell anything visually since the wiki does not seem to update its images very consistently). The next uploads should be of a comparable resolution. - [[User:muzik|muzik]] ([[User talk:muzik|talk]]) 01:11, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

== Worrisome reference to 13-bit still lifes ==

[https://www.conwaylife.com/w/index.php?title=Long%5E4_boat&curid=9866&diff=89078&oldid=82042 This edit comment] brings up the specter of a project that I was really hoping would never show up again.

The last time that the idea came up of adding a separate article for each of the 240 13-bit still lifes regardless of notability, was exactly three years ago today --
[https://discord.com/channels/357922255553953794/370570978188591105/527906609872240660 12/27/2018, on Discord].

muzik: how many are there, 500?
muzik: nah, 240
muzik: looks manageable, but definitely not today
Ian07: i agree with dvgrn, 12-bit seems to be a good limit
muzik: maybe i'll have all the 13 bit objects in by 2025
dvgrn: Maybe I'll put them all in a nice simple "13-bit still lifes" article in 2024, then, to proactively prevent the pointless proliferation of pages.

I'm not sure we really need a LifeWiki article for 13-bit still lifes at all, since we already have [https://conwaylife.com/ref/mniemiec/p1-13.htm Mark Niemiec's catalogue] among others. But I'm fairly sure that we **don't** need two hundred and forty separate articles about not particularly interesting 13-bit still lifes. I strongly suspect that I can dig up a lot of votes against the 240-separate-articles model, along the lines of Ian07's comment from three years ago.

The more of these separate articles that get created, the higher the likelihood gets that when someone clicks on the "Random page" link in the left-side links bar, they'll get directed to something completely uninteresting.

So... please discuss! Why does this project of creating a maze of twisty little articles, all alike, seem like a good idea? And to anyone else reading this, does this project seem like a good idea to you, and why or why not? [[User:Dvgrn|Dvgrn]] ([[User talk:Dvgrn|talk]]) 01:54, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

: I definitely remembered there being somewhat of an apprehension (if that's the correct word) towards pages for all 240 still lifes, but I didn't remember it being ''this'' great; I thought it was simply due to the large amount of work that would be needed to create all such pages. With these concerns in light, I probably won't go ahead and create individual pages for each and every one (the only ones that will probably get pages in the near future are those AB planned on creating back in 2016-17, and any others that are provably notable, particularly the more common ones that are yet to get a page).

: As for the "one page for all 13-cell still lifes" solution, this is definitely preferable as a result. Having such a page on the wiki is preferable to only having Mark's catalogue as a list, simply due to it being a wiki page - anyone can edit and update it, be it with updated synthesis costs, pattern names, or anything else that may arise, rather than having a page that can only be updated by Mark. The same can be said for the Catagolue xs13 listing as well, as even if it being open-source makes editing it easier, it still depends on Adam actually pushing those changes to the site. - [[User:muzik|muzik]] ([[User talk:muzik|talk]]) 02:26, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

-----
: We don't need all 240 13-cell still lifes. We also don't need quite a lot of the pages you created (look in [[:Category:Articles of unclear notability]] and [[:Category:Pending deletion]]). Also change wing back into one article and it's called a dead spark coil no matter what you say it is. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:hotdogPi|hotdogPi]] ([[User talk:hotdogPi|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/hotdogPi|contribs]]) 01:59, 28 December 2021 (UTC)</span></small>

:: Well this was a needlessly hostile response. Hadn't we already addressed all of these before? I remember having already clarified my reason for splitting wing back into three articles (and admitted I hadn't seen the talk page discussion beforehand), and am absolutely in major vocal support of moving xs18 back to dead spark coil despite this statement seemingly implying otherwise. - [[User:muzik|muzik]] ([[User talk:muzik|talk]]) 02:26, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

== Blocked ==

I didn't want to have to do this, I ''especially'' didn't want to have to do this myself, but I do think your editing tendencies need to be seriously addressed. I'm really hoping that this can be reinstated quickly, because you definitely have made ''a lot'' of valuable contributions, and I believe you'll continue to do so. As you've seen, there's been a lot of pushback from multiple users regarding your quite numerous edits over the last few days. What pushed me to do this, though, was the revelation that you had (rather covertly) removed NOTOC tags from hundreds of pages without consensus.

{{Cquote|It was used somewhat inconsistently across pattern pages, and since I intended to make them more consistent (and didn't see much of a problem with the table of contents being present) I ended up just getting rid of it.}}

I really don't think this is a good reason at all. The table of contents is, admittedly, a bit weird in that it's automatically added on to pages with at least four sections, unless you specifically remove them. This is great on Wikipedia, where the sections are generally several paragraphs each; not so much on LifeWiki. On these smaller pages, which are typical of LifeWiki unlike other wikis, the TOC does take up quite a significant portion of the page size without aiding much in navigation, which is why the prevailing practice has been to use NOTOC except for unusually long pages. When numerous editors have actively chosen to add NOTOC or something similar to hundreds of pages across the wiki, consider asking yourself why they chose to do so before undoing these additions. And, in general, I don't think "consistency" should be the overall end goal of editing - consistency is nice, but it shouldn't be enforced at the expense of quality, and most editors seem to agree that omitting the TOC from such short pages increases the quality.

Sure, none of this is really the end of the world, however, the issue I find is that you did this (and, of course, thousands of other edits over the last few days) without seeking consensus from other users first, and, in this case, without alerting anybody to the fact that you performed them until someone else inquired about it. Bundling up these kinds of edits is okay, but ''please'' make sure you ask other users if it's really a good idea to do certain things before you go editing on this scale.

Again, I'm sorry about doing this, and I'm hoping that you can be unblocked within the next 24 hours, if not earlier, by either me or Dave.

[[User:Ian07|Ian07]] ([[User talk:Ian07|talk]]) 02:12, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

: Understood. I'd be all up for reading notoc to all afflicted pages (to my memory, I've only removed it from still life pages, and maybe some oscillators as well, so it shouldn't be hard to fix the pages in question) immediately after unblocking (unless someone has a dedicated bot set up to do it instead). Is there anything else in specific that needs addressed before unblocking? - [[User:muzik|muzik]] ([[User talk:muzik|talk]]) 02:16, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

:: I don't think anything else needs addressing before unblocking -- so I've gone ahead and unblocked the block. Ian07 isn't the only one who hates doing this kind of thing.

:: I'd just like to request that you talk over the 13-bit still life project in the "Please discuss" area (previous section, above) with whoever shows up to talk about it, before you embark on any more actual article creation... and start a similar discussion about future large projects. A new topic on the Tiki Bar is often a good way to give everybody fair warning -- yes, half the time probably nobody will say anything at all, but then at least the odds are a lot better that your plan isn't going to be controversial, and people can't say that they haven't been warned.

:: In 2018 it seemed to me that the 12-bit still life project added a lot of pages that weren't really needed. But they represented a lot of work and were hard to delete for that reason... along with the fact that it would have been a lot of work to delete them! So I was glad that the project reached that stopping point and didn't continue. If you don't stop after the 12-bit still lifes, why stop after the 13-bitters? -- but you have to stop somewhere! [[User:Dvgrn|Dvgrn]] ([[User talk:Dvgrn|talk]]) 02:41, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

::: Ha, it looks like some responses already showed up in that section. Re: the "needlessly hostile response" -- try not to take it that way: think of it as "you've accidentally thrown several people into a minor state of panic, by appearing to be determined to carry on with some ideas that seemed problematic". Some people may not have seen all of your responses at the time that they were writing '''their''' responses, just as you didn't see some Talk-page feedback when you were making your changes.

::: All in all, this is really a fairly awkward method of communication... so please give everyone the benefit of the doubt for the time being, and in the longer term keep an eye on the recent-changes list as you get back into editing stuff, so that you can reliably notice people who are trying to get your attention. Thanks! [[User:Dvgrn|Dvgrn]] ([[User talk:Dvgrn|talk]]) 02:51, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

----

All xs12 pages should have NOTOC readded. I've also made other changes along the way (removing viewerconfig from xs12 pages that had it since it did nothing, as well as removing some templates and categories I added years ago but didn't get around to doing much with). Work on readding notoc other still life pages will hopefully be done in the nearish future. - [[User:muzik|muzik]] ([[User talk:muzik|talk]]) 03:25, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

== Object notability again ==

That many xWss-on-xWSS variants are listed in [[List of common spaceships]] does not mean they warrant their own LifeWiki page. Similar logic applies to what are in [[List of common oscillators]].

What is more, not all items mentioned in [[User:Apple Bottom/TODO]] (which end up moved to [[User:muzik/Catagolue objects needing pages]]) are pageworthy as well; the idea came from a single user and no community consensus has been reached, so restarting the project should be considered carefully.[[User:GUYTU6J|GUYTU6J]] ([[User talk:GUYTU6J|talk]]) 03:13, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

: Personally I'm of the opinion that any spaceship that shows up naturally is notable. Unlike still lifes and oscillators, natural spaceships are far, far less varied (only around 50 of them if I remember right), and as such there's considerably more that can be said about them. I do plan on expanding the existing natural spaceship pages somewhat before creating more though. - [[User:muzik|muzik]] ([[User talk:muzik|talk]]) 18:03, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

::Flotillas are boring in the same way that LCM oscillators are boring. They're all pretty much identical, too. [[User:HotdogPi|HotdogPi]] ([[User talk:HotdogPi|talk]]) 18:18, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

:: Exactly what is "more that can be said about <nowiki>[many xWss-on-xWSS variants]</nowiki>"? Constituents? Frequency? Synthesis costs/methods? See, you can just incorporate these in the table on the List of common spaceships page. Do you expect every of them has at least one unique interesting fact to mention on the page, something like [https://www.conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=134152#p134152 a novel converter]? I don't, and even if there is, adding a Note column to the table is more preferable. [[User:GUYTU6J|GUYTU6J]] ([[User talk:GUYTU6J|talk]]) 03:33, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

== The swap between cis- and trans-loaf on table ==

Apparently it has the potential to make things confusing. Is it agreed by others? [[User:GUYTU6J|GUYTU6J]] ([[User talk:GUYTU6J|talk]]) 11:34, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

: I believe there were some mentions of it not lining up well with boats as I'd had it previously (as well as cis- and trans- just being weird with loaves in general). Can't remember anything in specific, though.
: Also, "cis" and "trans" have only been used for loaves on tables for two weeks or so anyway, so any confusion should be limited to said timeframe. - [[User:muzik|muzik]] ([[User talk:muzik|talk]]) 11:35, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

== Color for neighbourhood images ==

Why do you decide to change from the good old green scheme to a custom blue scheme? [[User:GUYTU6J|GUYTU6J]] ([[User talk:GUYTU6J|talk]]) 08:03, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

: The wiki and forums use a blue-and-white color scheme, and as such this was done to match it. Also, a lot of the neighbourhood and transition images are inconsistent anyway, which I'm trying to fix. - [[User:muzik|muzik]] ([[User talk:muzik|talk]]) 08:05, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

== Glossary tag on user pages ==
Would you please remove the glossary designation from:

*User:muzik/Page drafts/Appendage
*User:muzik/Page drafts/Exceptional sparkling springs
*User:muzik/Page drafts/Sparkling spring?

User pages ought not be in the glossary. Thanks. [[User:Book|Book]] ([[User talk:Book|talk]]) 22:07, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

* In this case it is unnecessary to edit pages in userspace of other people. The automatic categories should be added only in main/OCA namespaces now. [[User:Confocal|Confocal]] ([[User talk:Confocal|talk]]) 23:50, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

== Citation added ==
Just notifying you that I added a citation to your edit on the Troll article. [[ User:Derivative|d/dx ]] jan 19 2025 7:19 pm cet

Troll

2025-01-19T18:04:55Z

Derivative:

A '''troll''' is a pattern that looks like it works, even though it doesn't. There are three main types of trolls: cell placement trolls, hidden cell trolls, and loop trolls. One of each type is shown below. Trolls usually use [[LifeViewer]] commands.

While the examples below are all oscillators or guns, spaceship trolls and glider synthesis trolls also exist.
{|
|{{EmbedViewer
|rle = x = 11, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
8b3o$7bo2bo$6bo3bo$7bobo$8bo$2bo$bobo$o3bo$o2bo$3o!
|position = center
|viewerconfig = #C [[ ZOOM 12 THUMBSIZE 2 PASTET EVERY 193 110 PASTE o! -3 10 PASTE o! 13 -1 ]]
|caption = This is a troll period-193 glider gun that would be a [[bakery]] hassler if it was legitimate. The LifeViewer commands are "ZOOM 12 THUMBSIZE 2 PASTET EVERY 193 110 PASTE o! -3 10 PASTE o! 13 -1". This means that in generation 110 and every 193 after that, the cells (-3,10) and (13,-1) are turned on. This is unnoticeable unless you know it's there. However, if this was real, [[Catagolue]] would have found it many times by now.
|style = width:500px;
}}
|-
|{{EmbedViewer
|rle = x = 35, y = 21, rule = LifeHistory
17.B$12.2B.B3AB.2B$12.11B$6.B4.13B4.B$5.4B.2B3A5B3A2B.4B$4.7BA3BAB.BA
3BA7B$2.8BA5BA.A5BA8B$F9BA5BA.A5BA9BF$2.8B3AB3A.3AB3A8B$2.15B.15B2$2.
15B.15B$2.8B3AB3A.3AB3A8B$F9BA5BA.A5BA9BF$2.8BA5BA.A5BA8B$4.7BA3BAB.B
A3BA7B$5.4B.2B3A5B3A2B.4B$6.B4.13B4.B$12.11B$12.2B.B3AB.2B$17.B!
|position = center
|viewerconfig = #C [[ COLOR 6 255 255 255 ]]
|caption = This is [[vex]] with four hidden [[LifeHistory]] state-6 (killer) cells, as there are no known completions of vex in plain Life that don't rely on other p41 oscillators. The LifeViewer commands are "COLOR 6 255 255 255", which makes the killer cells look the same color as the background. Pressing "c" will change the LifeViewer theme and reveal where the killer cells are.
|style = width:500px;
}}
|-
|{{EmbedViewer
|rle = x = 48, y = 48, rule = B3/S23
26bo$25b3o3$25b3o2$25bobo$25bobo2$25b3o3$25b3o$26bo2$2b2o6b2o$bo2bo4bo
2bo5bobo$bo2bo4bo2bo5bo2bo$bo2bo4bo2bo4bo3bo$2b2o6b2o6bo2bo$18b3o$40bo
4bo$38b2ob4ob2o$40bo4bo$2bo4bo$2ob4ob2o$2bo4bo$27b3o$26bo2bo6b2o6b2o$
26bo3bo4bo2bo4bo2bo$26bo2bo5bo2bo4bo2bo$27bobo5bo2bo4bo2bo$36b2o6b2o2$
21bo$20b3o3$20b3o2$20bobo$20bobo2$20b3o3$20b3o$21bo!
|position = center
|viewerconfig = #C [[ ZOOM 6 GPS 20 THUMBSIZE 2 LOOP 105 ]]
|caption = This is a troll p105 [[R-pentomino hassler]]. The reason it doesn't work is because the [[R-pentomino]]es regenerate after 104 generations rather than 105, making them incompatible with the [[pentadecathlon]]s. If you look carefully, you can see that generation 104 and generation 0, which are consecutive with LOOP 105, have the R-pentominoes in the same position.
|style = width:500px;
}}

|}

Despite generally being novelties, discussion of such patterns have occasionally resulted in actual discoveries, [[David Hilbert]] being a very notable example.<ref name="praopartial" />

==References==
<references>
<ref name="praopartial">{{LinkForumThread
|p = 85440
|format = ref
|title = Re: Thread for your Trolls
|author = praosylen
|date = November 17th, 2019
}}</ref>
</references>

== External links ==
* {{LinkForumThread|t=4137|title=Thread for your Trolls}}

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<h2> How do we know of the existence of a p10 fleet hassler? </h2>
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LifeViewer/Known bugs

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This page contains a list of issues within [[LifeViewer]] which are not considered to be a high enough priority to fix immediately, with test cases where they apply.
* <span style="color:red;">Please report any new bugs to [https://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1622 this forum topic]. This page is for unresolved issues that have already been reported.
* <span style="color:red;">Issues which are not fixable are documented at [[LifeViewer/Known bugs/Not fixable]]. Checking there is recommended before reporting bugs in the event that said issue is already listed there.

== Playback ==
* In many cases, script commands will persist after resuming playback if Identify is used while script-related sequences are underway.<ref>https://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1622&p=158331#p158331</ref>
* In the general-range algorithm, dead cells may not age in certain circumstances when close to the edge of the grid.
** For the following example, the cells along the top and left borders are affected.
{| class="wikitable" style="margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto; border:none"
! Standard
! General
|-
| {{EmbedViewer
|rle = x = 2, y = 2, rule = B1357/S02468
2o$2o!
|viewerconfig = #C [[ AUTOSTART MAXGRIDSIZE 9 DELETERANGE 1 ZOOM -1 THEME Book GRID OFF THUMBNAIL THUMBSIZE 4 WIDTH 600 HEIGHT 600 ]]
}}
| {{EmbedViewer
|rle = x = 2, y = 2, rule = R1,C2,S0,2,4,6,8,B1,3,5,7,NM
2o$2o!
|viewerconfig = #C [[ AUTOSTART MAXGRIDSIZE 9 DELETERANGE 1 ZOOM -1 THEME Book GRID OFF THUMBNAIL THUMBSIZE 4 WIDTH 600 HEIGHT 600 ]]
}}
|}

* Ghost living cells can also be left at grid edges in higher range rules.
{{EmbedViewer
|position = center
|rle = x = 2, y = 2, rule = R1,C3,S,B2
2A$2A!
|viewerconfig = [[ MAXGRIDSIZE 9 STARTFROM 509 ZOOM -1 THEME Book ]]
}}

== Pattern editing ==
* In the general-range algorithm, selections behave oddly at the very edge of the unbounded grid.
** For range 1 in the general range algorithm, the three cells at the edge are effectively treated as one. Any selection in a cell one or two away from the edge will snap to the very edge, and any selection containing any of those cells plus cells four or more cells away will select all three of those cells.
** Since the three cells at the very edge cannot be modified at all, it'd be preferable if selections simply could not be made at the three cells at the edge for this algorithm. The fact that selections can be made here at all can result in unwanted deletion of cells when flipping or rotating selections containing them.
{| class="wikitable" style="margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto; border:none"
! Standard
! General
|-
| {{EmbedViewer
|rle = x = 2, y = 2, rule = B/S01234V
2o$2o!
|viewerconfig = #C [[ MAXGRIDSIZE 9 X -256 THUMBNAIL THUMBSIZE 4 WIDTH 600 HEIGHT 600 ]]
}}
| {{EmbedViewer
|rle = x = 2, y = 2, rule = R1,C2,S0-4,B,NN
2o$2o!
|viewerconfig = #C [[ MAXGRIDSIZE 9 X -256 THUMBNAIL THUMBSIZE 4 WIDTH 600 HEIGHT 600 ]]
}}
|}

* For Margolus rule bounded grids, attempting to begin drawing by clicking in the topmost row or leftmost column inside of the boundaries will do nothing. However, if this click is held while the cursor is moved further to the right or downwards and them moved back into one of these extreme rows/columns, or the click does not begin in said row or column and is dragged into it, only then will drawing be permitted.
{{EmbedViewer
|position = center
|rle = x = 10, y = 10, rule = M0,4,8,12,4,12,12,13,8,12,12,14,12,13,14,15:T10,10
9o$9o$9o$9o$9o$9o$9o$9o$9o!
|viewerconfig = [[ THEME Book ]]
}}
* A second bug that can be reproduced with the above example pattern is a selection offset bug, which can be seen by using Select All. It is also exhibited by patterns such as the following:
{{EmbedViewer
|position = center
|rle = x = 20, y = 20, rule = B34e5i678/S3-i4-c678:K20,20*
obobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobo$obobobobo
bobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobob
o$obobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobo$obobobob2o2bobobobo$obobobo
bobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobob
obo$obobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobo$obobo
bobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobo!
|viewerconfig = [[ THEME Book ]]
}}
* For higher-range rules, selections and operations upon them can behave wrongly near the edges of the grid.
** For the following case, Select All and flip vertically. The pattern gains a higher symmetry, which is unexpected.
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|position = center
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1483.A77$82.A1329.A3$165.A1163.A$248.A997.A$497.2A497.2A!
|viewerconfig = [[ THEME Book STARTFROM 6 ZOOM -16 ]]
}}

== Identify ==
* Cells removed by KILLGLIDERS are counted towards an oscillator's bounding box in the general-range algorithm, even though they aren't in the range-1 algorithm.
{| class="wikitable" style="margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto; border:none"
! Standard
! General
|-
| {{EmbedViewer
|rle = x = 36, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
27bo$26b4o$9b2o14b2obobo$bo7bo2bo11b3obo2bo2b2o$o3b2o7bo11b2obobo3b2o
$o5bo6bo12b4o$b5o7bo7bo5bo$9bo2bo9bo$9b2o9b3o!
|viewerconfig = #C [[ KILLGLIDERS THEME Book AUTOIDENTIFY THUMBNAIL THUMBSIZE 4 WIDTH 600 HEIGHT 600 ]]
}}
| {{EmbedViewer
|rle = x = 36, y = 9, rule = R1,C2,S2-3,B3
27bo$26b4o$9b2o14b2obobo$bo7bo2bo11b3obo2bo2b2o$o3b2o7bo11b2obobo3b2o
$o5bo6bo12b4o$b5o7bo7bo5bo$9bo2bo9bo$9b2o9b3o!
|viewerconfig = #C [[ KILLGLIDERS THEME Book AUTOIDENTIFY THUMBNAIL THUMBSIZE 4 WIDTH 600 HEIGHT 600 ]]
}}
|}

* Some oblique spaceships in exotic rules can have mods reported which are lower than periods, alongside mod transforms.
{| class="wikitable" style="margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto; border:none"
! Flip⟍ camelship
! FlipY camelship
|-
| {{EmbedViewer
|rle = x = 6, y = 6, rule = R3,C2,S5-7,B5-7,NW0000000002020200000000020102000000000202020000000
6o$6o$2o$2o$2b2o$2b2o!
|viewerconfig = #C [[ AUTOIDENTIFY THUMBNAIL THUMBSIZE 4 WIDTH 600 HEIGHT 600 ]]
}}
| {{EmbedViewer
|rle = x = 20, y = 16, rule = R5,C2,S5-7,B5-7,NW0000000000000000000000002000200020000000000000000000000000000000000020001000200000000000000000000000000000000000200020002
4b4o$4b4o$4b4o$4b4o$4o$4o$4o$4o$4o12b4o$4o12b4o$4o12b4o$4o12b4o$16o$16o
$16o$16o!
|viewerconfig = #C [[ AUTOIDENTIFY THUMBNAIL THUMBSIZE 4 WIDTH 600 HEIGHT 600 ]]
}}
|}

* Similarly to the above, some diagonal spaceships can have orthogonal flips recorded, which is also normally not possible.
{{EmbedViewer
|position = center
|rle = x = 8, y = 10, rule = R3,C2,S5-7,B5-7,NW0000000202020000000002010200000000020202000000000
6o$6o$2o4b2o$2o4b2o$2o$2o$2o$2o$2b2o2b2o$2b2o2b2o!
|viewerconfig = [[ AUTOIDENTIFY ]]
}}

* Some diagonal spaceships in anisotropic rules, where the shape of the spaceship has rotational non-reflectional symmetry and becomes its mirror image halfway through evolution, do not have a Mod reported.
{| class="wikitable" style="margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto; border:none"
! Rule 1
! Rule 2
! Using PASTE
|-
| {{EmbedViewer
|rle = x = 4, y = 4, rule = R2,C2,S3,12,B4,13,NW01010100000108010000010100000000000000000000000000
2bo$3o$b3o$bo!
|viewerconfig = #C [[ AUTOIDENTIFY THUMBNAIL THUMBSIZE 4 WIDTH 600 HEIGHT 600 ]]
}}
| {{EmbedViewer
|rle = x = 4, y = 4, rule = R2,C0,S10,14,20,22,24,26,28,B7,11,15,21,23,27,29,NW01040000000200100000000800000000000000000000000000
bo$b3o$3o$2bo!
|viewerconfig = #C [[ AUTOIDENTIFY THUMBNAIL THUMBSIZE 4 WIDTH 600 HEIGHT 600 ]]
}}
| {{EmbedViewer
|rle = x = 1, y = 1, rule = B/S
!
|viewerconfig = #C [[ PASTET EVERY 2 0 PASTEDELTA 2 2 PASTE bo$b3o$3o$2bo! 0 0 PASTET EVERY 2 1 PASTEDELTA 2 2 PASTE 2bo$3o$b3o$bo! 1 1 AUTOIDENTIFY THUMBNAIL THUMBSIZE 4 WIDTH 600 HEIGHT 600 ]]
}}
|}

* In [R]History, manually enabling Kill Gliders for this gun and then identifying it will result in a massive bounding box and period map.
** [R]Standard appears unaffected.
{| class="wikitable" style="margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto; border:none"
! [R]Standard
! [R]History
|-
| {{EmbedViewer
|rle = x = 47, y = 38, rule = B3/S23
33bo3b2o$32bobobob3o$32bobobo4bo$33bobobobobo$35bobob2o4b2o$23b2o9bob
o8bo$23b2o10bo7bobo$23b2o18b2o$23b3o$23bobo5b2o$23bo2bo6bo$6bo17b4o3b
2o$6b3o8b2obo5b3o$9bo7bob2o6bob2o$8b2o16bob2obo3b2o9bo$29bobo2bo9bobo
$32bo4bobo5b2o$22bo8bobob2obobo$21bobo7b4o4b2o$12bo8bo2bo8bo$12bo9b2o
2$10bobobo$10b5o21b2o$7b2o4bob2o8b2obo7bo$6bo4bo2b2obo7bob2o8b3o$17b3o
19bo$2o4b2o3bo5bo$2o8b2o$9b3o$10bo$8bo2bo9b2o$5b2o3b2o9b2o$8bobo$4bob
obobobo$4bo4bobobo$5b3obobobo$7b2o3bo!
|viewerconfig = #C [[ STARTFROM 240 THUMBNAIL THUMBSIZE 4 WIDTH 600 HEIGHT 600 ]]
}}
| {{EmbedViewer
|rle = x = 47, y = 38, rule = B3/S23History
33bo3b2o$32bobobob3o$32bobobo4bo$33bobobobobo$35bobob2o4b2o$23b2o9bob
o8bo$23b2o10bo7bobo$23b2o18b2o$23b3o$23bobo5b2o$23bo2bo6bo$6bo17b4o3b
2o$6b3o8b2obo5b3o$9bo7bob2o6bob2o$8b2o16bob2obo3b2o9bo$29bobo2bo9bobo
$32bo4bobo5b2o$22bo8bobob2obobo$21bobo7b4o4b2o$12bo8bo2bo8bo$12bo9b2o
2$10bobobo$10b5o21b2o$7b2o4bob2o8b2obo7bo$6bo4bo2b2obo7bob2o8b3o$17b3o
19bo$2o4b2o3bo5bo$2o8b2o$9b3o$10bo$8bo2bo9b2o$5b2o3b2o9b2o$8bobo$4bob
obobobo$4bo4bobobo$5b3obobobo$7b2o3bo!
|viewerconfig = #C [[ STARTFROM 240 THUMBNAIL THUMBSIZE 4 WIDTH 600 HEIGHT 600 ]]
}}
|}

* Using paste commands to suppress a cell from being born every generation, and then identifying the resulting "still life", will result in a larger bounding box than expected for the general-range algorithm compared to the range-1 algorithm.
{| class="wikitable" style="margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto; border:none"
! Standard
! General
|-
| {{EmbedViewer
|rle = x = 3, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
2o$obo$2bo$obo$2o!
|viewerconfig = #C [[ PASTEMODE XOR PASTET EVERY 1 1 PASTE o! 3 2 THUMBNAIL THUMBSIZE 4 WIDTH 600 HEIGHT 600 ]]
}}
| {{EmbedViewer
|rle = x = 3, y = 5, rule = R1,C2,S2-3,B3
2o$obo$2bo$obo$2o!
|viewerconfig = #C [[ PASTEMODE XOR PASTET EVERY 1 1 PASTE o! 3 2 THUMBNAIL THUMBSIZE 4 WIDTH 600 HEIGHT 600 ]]
}}
|}

== Pattern loading ==
* Margolus patterns on bounded grids will delete the top row and leftmost column of the pattern when loaded, unlike in other rulespaces.
** Other issues can arise from this, particularly if the top-left cell should be alive but is not. For example, a "New Pattern" message will not be displayed despite no alive cells being present, the population counter will report that one live cell is present, and using "Select All" creates a selection at the bottom right corner of the bounded grid.
** Fixes for Margolus pattern positioning on bounded grids are on the backlog.<ref>https://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=157478#p157487</ref>
{| class="wikitable" style="margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto; border:none"
! Margolus
! outer-totalistic
|-
| {{EmbedViewer
|rle = x = 12, y = 12, rule = M0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15:T10
$3bob5o$2bo2bob2o$2b2obo2b3o$b2ob6o$2bo$b6obo$b6o2b2o$2b3o4b2o$bobobo
$b2obob2o2bo!
|viewerconfig = #C [[ THUMBNAIL THUMBSIZE 4 WIDTH 600 HEIGHT 600 ]]
}}
| {{EmbedViewer
|rle = x = 12, y = 12, rule = B/S012345678:T10
$3bob5o$2bo2bob2o$2b2obo2b3o$b2ob6o$2bo$b6obo$b6o2b2o$2b3o4b2o$bobobo
$b2obob2o2bo!
|viewerconfig = #C [[ THUMBNAIL THUMBSIZE 4 WIDTH 600 HEIGHT 600 ]]
}}
|}

* Triangular patterns loaded on bounded grids also result in cell deletion.
** For either of the following two patterns, drawing a cell at the very top left of the bounded grid, using Save Pattern and then reloading the pattern will result in everything being shifted down and to the right.
{| class="wikitable" style="margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto; border:none"
! Standard
! General
|-
| {{EmbedViewer
|rle = x = 5, y = 5, rule = B/S0123456789XYZL:P6
$b4o$b4o$b4o$b4o!
|viewerconfig = #C [[ THUMBNAIL THUMBSIZE 4 WIDTH 600 HEIGHT 600 ]]
}}
| {{EmbedViewer
|rle = x = 5, y = 5, rule = R1,C2,S0-12,B,NL:P6
$b4o$b4o$b4o$b4o!
|viewerconfig = #C [[ THUMBNAIL THUMBSIZE 4 WIDTH 600 HEIGHT 600 ]]
}}
|}

* When saving a Margolus pattern using Save Pattern at an odd generation, reopening that pattern will cause it to have completely different behaviour than the original pattern.
** This could be fixed by including an extra cell of empty space on both axes before the pattern iff saved on an odd generation to compensate for the shifting grid subdivisions.

{{EmbedViewer
|position = center
|rle = x = 3, y = 3, rule = M0,2,8,3,1,5,6,7,4,9,10,11,12,13,14,15
bo$2bo$2o!
|viewerconfig = [[ THEME Book ]]
}}

* In some cases, saving patterns in higher-range rules will include dead cells in the pattern, resulting in a larger RLE.<ref>https://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=181484#p181484</ref>

== Scripting ==
* STATE1FIT does not work as expected in [R]Super rules.
** STATE1FIT may be deprecated in the future in favor of a new ALIVEFIT command in order to resolve this issue.<ref name="bbissues">https://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=158545#p158569</ref>
{| class="wikitable" style="margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto; border:none"
! [R]Standard
! [R]History
|-
| {{EmbedViewer
|rle = x = 3, y = 3, rule = B3/S23
o$obo$2o!
|viewerconfig = #C [[ AUTOFIT STATE1FIT THUMBNAIL THUMBSIZE 4 WIDTH 600 HEIGHT 600 ]]
}}
| {{EmbedViewer
|rle = x = 3, y = 3, rule = B3/S23History
o$obo$2o!
|viewerconfig = #C [[ AUTOFIT STATE1FIT THUMBNAIL THUMBSIZE 4 WIDTH 600 HEIGHT 600 ]]
}}
|-
! [R]Super
! [R]Investigator
|-
| {{EmbedViewer
|rle = x = 3, y = 3, rule = B3/S23Super
o$obo$2o!
|viewerconfig = #C [[ AUTOFIT STATE1FIT THUMBNAIL THUMBSIZE 4 WIDTH 600 HEIGHT 600 ]]
}}
| {{EmbedViewer
|rle = x = 3, y = 3, rule = B3/S23Investigator
o$obo$2o!
|viewerconfig = #C [[ AUTOFIT STATE1FIT THUMBNAIL THUMBSIZE 4 WIDTH 600 HEIGHT 600 ]]
}}
|}

* For the following pattern, AUTOFIT only focuses on the living cells for the range-1 case, but zooms out to include history cells for the general-range case.
** Identify also does not work for the general-range case.
{| class="wikitable" style="margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto; border:none"
! Standard
! General
|-
| {{EmbedViewer
|rle = x = 1, y = 1, rule = B3/S23
o!
|viewerconfig = #C [[ THEME Book ZOOM 4 AUTOFIT PASTEDELTA 2 0 PASTET EVERY 2 PASTE o! 0 0 PASTEDELTA 2 0 PASTET EVERY 2 1 PASTE o! 1 1 THUMBNAIL THUMBSIZE 4 WIDTH 600 HEIGHT 600 ]]
}}
| {{EmbedViewer
|rle = x = 1, y = 1, rule = R1,C2,S2-3,B3
o!
|viewerconfig = #C [[ THEME Book ZOOM 4 AUTOFIT PASTEDELTA 2 0 PASTET EVERY 2 PASTE o! 0 0 PASTEDELTA 2 0 PASTET EVERY 2 1 PASTE o! 1 1 THUMBNAIL THUMBSIZE 4 WIDTH 600 HEIGHT 600 ]]
}}
|}

* The same effect as above can be seen without using paste commands.
{| class="wikitable" style="margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto; border:none"
! Standard
! General
|-
| {{EmbedViewer
|rle = x = 2, y = 4, rule = B2/S
o$bo$bo$o!
|viewerconfig = #C [[ THEME Book STARTFROM 253 AUTOFIT MAXGRIDSIZE 9 THUMBNAIL THUMBSIZE 4 WIDTH 600 HEIGHT 600 ]]
}}
| {{EmbedViewer
|rle = x = 2, y = 4, rule = R1,C2,S,B2
o$bo$bo$o!
|viewerconfig = #C [[ THEME Book STARTFROM 253 AUTOFIT MAXGRIDSIZE 9 THUMBNAIL THUMBSIZE 4 WIDTH 600 HEIGHT 600 ]]
}}
|}

== Rendering ==
* The grid lines used to partition the grid in Margolus rules are not consistent in representing the partitioned regions.
** It would be expected that either GRIDMAJOR would represent the "active" partitioning, or GRID would, but not interchangeably depending on the input pattern. The former would be preferable.
{| class="wikitable" style="margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto; border:none"
! GRID used
! GRIDMAJOR used
|-
| {{EmbedViewer
|rle = x = 1, y = 1, rule = M0,2,8,3,1,5,6,7,4,9,10,11,12,13,14,15
o!
|viewerconfig = #C [[ COLOR GRIDMAJOR Black GRIDMAJOR 2 THUMBNAIL THUMBSIZE 4 WIDTH 600 HEIGHT 600 ]]
}}
| {{EmbedViewer
|rle = x = 1, y = 1, rule = M0,2,8,3,1,5,6,7,4,9,10,11,12,13,14,15
$o!
|viewerconfig = #C [[ COLOR GRIDMAJOR Black GRIDMAJOR 2 THUMBNAIL THUMBSIZE 4 WIDTH 600 HEIGHT 600 ]]
}}
|}

* AutoFit can sometimes put the viewer at a very slightly different zoom level than the Fit Pattern button. This likely depends on the scale level of the viewer.
** For example (on an iPad), with browser tabs shown, AutoFit zooms to 36.2, whereas Fit Pattern zooms to 36.0. With browser tabs not shown, AutoFit goes to 39.9, whereas Fit Pattern uses 40.0.
{{EmbedViewer
|position = center
|rle = x = 1, y = 1, rule = B3/S23:T10
o!
}}

* In some cases, selection boxes still appear to be offset by a pixel on-screen.<ref>https://conwaylife.com/forums/download/file.php?id=6400</ref>

* For some thumbnail viewers, the grid may not continue all the way to the right, resulting in visually misshapen cells.<ref>https://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=187602#p187602</ref>

* When toggling icons on and off, the positions of the major grid lines can be seen shifting in location.
** To reproduce this you must manually switch to another theme with major grid lines such as MCell or Golly: even if a theme is explicitly specified in viewerconfig on the wiki, the actually applied theme will be a custom theme without major grid lines.
{{EmbedViewer
|position = center
|rle = x = 2, y = 2, rule = PCA_4
A$.H!
|viewerconfig = [[ GRID ICONS THEME MCell ]]
}}

* The grid pattern in the grid button is rendered on top of the outer white boundary, as well as on top of the plus shape at the top right.
** This is most obvious when using the offset-square grid.
{{EmbedViewer
|position = center
|rle = x = 1, y = 1, rule = B/SH
!
|viewerconfig = [[ GRID OFF COLOR GRID #000088 COLOR BACKGROUND #888800 SQUARECELLS ]]
}}

== Platform-exclusive issues ==

=== iOS ===

==== Playback ====
* Holding down links will cause LifeViewer instances to be throttled to 30fps instead of the expected 60.<ref>https://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1622&p=158048#p158048</ref>

== References ==
<references />

Gallus

2025-01-18T12:22:38Z

Derivative: fixed typo

{{Oscillator
|name = Gallus
|pname = gallus
|f1 = Relay
|c = 105
|bx = 39
|by = 25
|p = 98
|m = 49
|h = 51.96
|v = 0.94
|sv = 0.37
|symmetry = n.c
|discoverer = Jeremy Tan
|discoveryear = 2021
|rulemin = B3/S23
|rulemax = B37/S2378
|rulespecial = [[Conway's Game of Life|Conway Life]]
|isorulemin = B3-c/S23-ky
|isorulemax = B34nt5e6ce7/S234cetz5ekn6-ck78
|synthesis = 42
|plaintext = true
|rle = true
|viewerconfig = #C [[ THUMBSIZE 2 ZOOM 10 GPS 14 LOOP 98 ]]
|apgcode = xp98_w33y133zgo6iqxqi6ogxjjz01qpy1pq1xgdpxccz0gye8k8z121y5ggy1ggz33xooy111y111zy1ccx8s3pdxdp3s8zy8dcy1cd
}}
'''Gallus''' is a {{period|98}} [[oscillator]], being the smallest example of a [[relay]] construction using [[34P14 shuttle]]s allowing all oscillators of periods {{nowrap|98 + 56''n''}} to be constructed with 105 cells. It was found by [[Jeremy Tan]] on July 16, {{year|2021}},<ref name="post133630" /> and [[glider synthesis|synthesized]] with {{gliders|50|text=50 gliders}} on September 5.<ref name="post135568" /> On October 3, [[Matti Ward]] reduced the synthesis to {{gliders|45|text=45 gliders}}.<ref name="post136249" /> On October 30, {{year|2024}}, [[KtT]] lowered the cost to {{gliders|42|text=42 gliders}}.<ref name="post196877"/><ref name="j8227325551"/>

It may also be stabilised with the [[34P7]] on either end, for a smaller bounding box<ref group="n">The 34P14 version is <tt>x(n)*y(n)</tt>, where <tt>x(n)=39+7*n</tt> and <tt>y(n)=(25 if n=0 else 23+7*n)</tt>, for a bounding box of <tt>a(n)=(975 if n=0 else 49*n<sup>2</sup>+434*n+897)</tt>, whereas the 34P7 version has <tt>x(n)=35+7*n</tt> and <tt>y(n)=(34 if n=-1 else 27 if n=0 else 25+7*n)</tt> so <tt>a(n)=(952 if n=-1 else 945 if n=0 else 49*n<sup>2</sup>+420*n+875)</tt></ref> but the same number of cells.<ref name="post152825" /> This also allows it to be continued to {{nowrap|''n'' {{=}} −1}}, for a period-42 oscillator ({{LinkCatagolue|xp42_33j71t8ggz678u0h43108k8xcczx223333y184swccwcczx66w66y6oooo88zy666x2520go4h0f2sczyf112ngspoo|style=brief}}).
{{EmbedViewer
|rle = x = 35, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
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|viewerconfig = #C [[ HEIGHT 462 WIDTH 600 THUMBSIZE 2 ZOOM 12 Y 1 GPS 12 AUTOSTART ]]
|position = center
|caption = The 34P7 variant, discovered by [[Entity Valkyrie]]
|style = width:300px;
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The underlying reaction can be supported with many oscillators that emit a [[dot]] [[spark]], as shown below:
{{EmbedViewer
|rle = x = 246, y = 89, rule = B3/S23
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|position = center
|caption = Gallery of 3-block-1-tub periodic 180-degree reflectors. From top to bottom, left to right:
<br> p4, using a [[middleweight emulator]] variant for higher [[clearance]] to allow [[glider]] input.
<br> p5, using a [[p5 pipsquirter]].
<br> p6, using a [[p6 pipsquirter]]. [[P6 thumb]] can be used to reduce the [[population]], and is used in [[Ocellus]]
<br> p7, using a thinner [[p7 pipsquirter]] variant, [[34P7]] can be used to reduce the population. The 34P7 variant is used in [[Gallus]].
<br> p8, using a [[blocker]].
<br> p10, using [[55P10]].
<br> p12, using [[Eye of Sauron]].
<br> p14, using [[34P14 shuttle]]. It can also be used in [[Gallus]].
<br> p15, using a [[pentadecathlon]].
<br> p22, using [[Jason's p22]].
<br> p30, using [[buckaroo]].
<br> p46, using [[Tanner's p46]].
<br>
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#C [[ LABEL 60 -10 6 "p5" ]]
#C [[ LABEL 105 -10 6 "p6" ]]
#C [[ LABEL 150 -10 6 "p7" ]]
#C [[ LABEL 195 -10 6 "p8" ]]
#C [[ LABEL 240 -10 6 "p10" ]]
#C [[ LABEL 15 47 6 "p12" ]]
#C [[ LABEL 60 47 6 "p14" ]]
#C [[ LABEL 105 47 6 "p15" ]]
#C [[ LABEL 150 47 6 "p22" ]]
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}}

== See also ==
* [[Ocellus]]

== Notes ==
<references group="n" />

== References ==
<references>
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|date = September 5, 2021
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|title = Re: Synthesising Oscillators
|p = 196877
|author = KtT
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== External links ==
* {{LinkCatagolue|xp98_w33y133zgo6iqxqi6ogxjjz01qpy1pq1xgdpxccz0gye8k8z121y5ggy1ggz33xooy111y111zy1ccx8s3pdxdp3s8zy8dcy1cd}}
* [https://mlp.fandom.com/wiki/Gallus Gallus name origin] 

__NOTOC__

Engineered diehard

2025-01-09T18:42:06Z

Derivative: inside --> within

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{{main|Die hard#"Die hard" as a general term}}
Beginning in early 2022, there has been considerable interest in constructing artificial diehards within small bounding boxes. On March 1, [[Dean Hickerson]] shared a 9044-tick {{times|32|32}} diehard in a private email to [[Dave Greene]]. After a complex series of interactions between an active reaction and various still lifes, a single [[lightweight spaceship]] is produced which eventually catches up to and collides with [[30P5H2V0]], producing a single [[loaf]]. Finally, an even slower [[25P3H1V0.1]] eventually collides with the loaf, destroying both of them.<ref name="post143573" /> On March 6, more optimized versions using different combinations of spaceships (including the especially slow [[copperhead]]) were shared, including a 14,010-tick diehard at {{times|32|32}} and an 18,477-tick diehard at {{times|36|36}}.<ref name="post143574" />

Although Hickerson's results were not initially posted publicly, a forum thread was coincidentally started a few weeks later dedicated to diehards, including engineered ones.<ref name="post143559" /> On March 31, [[Pavel Grankovskiy]] posted a 50,716-tick diehard in which a [[Simkin glider gun]] and [[pulse divider|pulse-dividing]] glider reflectors are used to slowly eat through a series of [[tub]]s. Although significantly larger than Hickerson's constructions at {{times|90|86}}, Grankovskiy's 50,716-tick diehard does not use the "spaceship-chasing" technique, meaning that throughout its evolution, the pattern only slightly exceeds its initial bounds. Using spaceship-chasing, however, the pattern's lifespan can be increased by an order of magnitude to 518,476 ticks without further increasing the bounding box.<ref name="post143605" /> [[Jiahao Yu]] optimized the bounding box of both of these patterns to {{times|87|86}},<ref name="post143624" /> as shown below.
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==Sawtooth-based designs==
Using a [[sawtooth]] allows for the creation of extremely long-lasting diehards. On April 7, 2022, Pavel Grankovskiy successfully constructed a diehard using a sawtooth an {{c|Sawtooths with expansion factor 121|expansion factor of 121}}. The pattern fits within a bounding box of {{times|99|101}} (just barely meeting the 10,000-cell restriction specified in the original post<ref name="post143559" />) and lasts approximately {{times|2.280624|10{{sup|870}}}} generations.<ref name="post143908" /> Further optimizations, with the help of [[toroidalet]],<ref name="post143914" /> Dean Hickerson,<ref name="post143920" /> [[EvinZL]],<ref name="post143997" /> [[Rocknlol]],<ref name="post144020" /> and [[Adam P. Goucher]]<ref name="post144030" /> increased its lifespan to {{times|~1.33616|10{{sup|1443}}}} ticks<ref name="post144027" /> and decreased its bounding box to {{times|94|98}}.<ref name="post144045" />

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On April 9, Grankovskiy posted a concept for a pattern whose lifespan is measured via [[tetration]], the next hyperoperator after exponentiation. Originally posted in the form of a methuselah,<ref name="post144034" /> the diehard version was completed on April 11.<ref name="post144077" /> With optimization by [[Tanner Jacobi]]<ref name="post144087" /> and toroidalet,<ref name="post144162" /><ref name="post149066" /> its lifespan is somewhere between <sup>15</sup>10 and <sup>16</sup>10 ticks.<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://btm.qva.mybluehost.me/telling-the-tale-of-two-tetrations/|author=Brett Berger|title=Telling the tale of two tetrations|work=a blog by biggiemac42|date=April 17, 2022|accessdate=April 17, 2022}}</ref>

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}}

On July 9, 2023, [[EvinZL]] proposed adding loaf-making fuse to increase the lifespan of the methuselah by extending power tower length,<ref name="post163493" /> based on the original idea of [[Tanner Jacobi]].<ref name="post148684" /> In a flurry of activity that followed after, [[toroidalet]], [[Adam P. Goucher]], [[Pavel Grankovskiy]] and [[EvinZL]] pushed the number of loaves from 15<ref name="tetrational_15_loaves" /> to approximately {{times|3.52|10{{sup|48}}}}<ref name="tetrational_1e48" />, with the latter improvement based on idea by [[Adam P. Goucher]] to use gliders from exponential part of diehard to ignite the fuse.<ref name="tetrational_exp_idea" /> This was subsequently improved to {{times|1.1|10{{sup|1046}}}}<ref name="tetrational_1e1046" /><ref name="tetrational_exp_cp4space" />.

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On December 23, 2024, [[Tim Coe]] posted a {{times|49|49}} sawtooth-based diehard with lifetime 1237975907532, reducing the size of the sawtooth base.<ref name="post200083" />

==Double-tetrational designs==
On 15th September 2023, [[Tim Coe]] and b3s23love increased the height of the tetrational tower from {{times|1.1|10{{sup|1046}}}} to 121{{sup|{{times|8.46|10{{sup|1059}}}}}}. The following day, Tim Coe further improved this height to 121{{sup|121{{sup|121{{sup|121{{sup|498}}}}}}}}, so the height of the tetrational tower is itself a tetrational tower. This was subsequently further improved by Tim Coe, toroidalet, EvinZL, and b3s23love, culminating in a height of 121{{sup|121{{sup|121{{sup|121{{sup|121{{sup|121{{sup|121{{sup|121{{sup|121{{sup|1356648129958673823266622201465466300}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} as of the 28th September 2023. The overall lifespan of the diehard exceeds {{sup|{{sup|11}}11}}11, or 11^^^3 in Knuth's up-arrow notation. More recent designs have further improved lifespans, with the current record holder taking 17^^^3 generations to die out entirely.

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==Timetable==
In many cases, several incremental record-breaking improvements were made within 24 hours. In the following table, the record-breaking pattern for each day is listed (with each day beginning and ending at UTC 0:00).<ref name="message1156939723001049189" />

{| class="wikitable"
! Date
! Lifespan
! Bounding box size
! Bounding box cells
! Contributor(s)
|-
!2022-02-21
|2474
|32×32
|1024
|Charity Engine
|-
!2022-03-01
|9044
|32×32
|1024
|Dean Hickerson
|-
!2022-03-06
|14010
|32×32
|1024
|Dean Hickerson
|-
!2022-03-31
|518476
|90×86
|7740
|Pavel Grankovskiy
|-
!2022-04-01
|518476
|87×86
|7482
|Jiahao Yu
|-
!2022-04-07
|2.28 × 10^870
|99×101
|9999
|Pavel Grankovskiy
|-
!2022-04-09
|1.77 × 10^1295
|94x96
|9024
|Pavel Grankovskiy, toroidalet, Rocknlol
|-
!2022-04-10
|1.476 × 10^1595
|94×99
|9306
|Pavel Grankovskiy, Dean Hickerson
|-
!2022-04-11
|11 ^^ 10
|105×95
|9975
|Pavel Grankovskiy
|-
!2022-04-13
|11 ^^ 11
|108×92
|9936
|toroidalet, Pavel Grankovskiy
|-
!2022-04-14
|11 ^^ 13
|109×91
|9919
|Pavel Grankovskiy, toroidalet, Tanner Jacobi
|-
|
|-
!2023-07-17
|121 ^^ 15
|110×90
|9900
|toroidalet, Pavgran
|-
!2023-07-18
|121 ^^ (4.98 × 10^27)
|111×90
|9990
|Pavel Grankovskiy, toroidalet, EvinZL, Adam P. Goucher
|-
!2023-07-19
|121 ^^ (5.94 × 10^54)
|109×91
|9919
|Pavel Grankovskiy, May13, toroidalet, EvinZL, Adam P. Goucher
|-
!2023-07-20
|121 ^^ (1.67 × 10^903)
|109×91
|9919
|May13, EvinZL
|-
!2023-07-23
|121 ^^ (1.10 × 10^1046)
|109×91
|9919
|Adam P. Goucher
|-
!2023-09-15
|121 ^^ (121 ^ (8.46 × 10^1059))
|108×91
|9828
|Tim Coe, b3s23love
|-
!2023-09-16
|121 ^^ (121 ^ 121 ^ 121 ^ 121 ^ 498)
|109×91
|9919
|Tim Coe
|-
!2023-09-19
|121 ^^ (121 ^ 121 ^ 121 ^ 121 ^ 121 ^ (9.74 × 10^51))
|109×91
|9919
|b3s23love, toroidalet, EvinZL
|-
!2023-09-21
|121 ^^ (121 ^ 121 ^ 121 ^ 121 ^ 121 ^ 121 ^ 121 ^ 60143)
|109×91
|9919
|EvinZL, Tim Coe
|-
!2023-09-22
|121 ^^ (121 ^ 121 ^ 121 ^ 121 ^ 121 ^ 121 ^ 121 ^ 70433)
|112×89
|9968
|b3s23love, toroidalet, EvinZL
|-
!2023-09-24
|9 ^^^ 3
|112×89
|9968
|Tim Coe
|-
!2023-09-28
|11 ^^^ 3
|112×89
|9968
|toroidalet
|-
!2023-10-05
|17 ^^^ 3
|116×86
|9976
|Tim Coe, EvinZL, [https://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=168589#p168589 Adam P. Goucher]
|-
!2023-10-05
|17 ^^^ 3 +
|116×86
|9976
|[https://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=169264#p169264 toroidalet]
|}

==References==
<references>
<ref name="post143573">{{LinkForumThread
|format = ref
|title = Re: (Engineered) diehards
|p = 143573
|author = Dave Greene
|date = March 31, 2022
}}</ref>
<ref name="post143574">{{LinkForumThread
|format = ref
|title = Re: (Engineered) diehards
|p = 143574
|author = Dave Greene
|date = March 31, 2022
}}</ref>
<ref name="post143559">{{LinkForumThread
|format = ref
|title = (Engineered) diehards
|p = 143559
|author = squareroot12621
|date = March 30, 2022
}}</ref>
<ref name="post143605">{{LinkForumThread
|format = ref
|title = Re: (Engineered) diehards
|p = 143605
|author = Pavel Grankovskiy
|date = March 31, 2022
}}</ref>
<ref name="post143624">{{LinkForumThread
|format = ref
|title = Re: (Engineered) diehards
|p = 143624
|author = Jiahao Yu
|date = March 31, 2022
}}</ref>
<ref name="post143921">{{LinkForumThread
|format = ref
|title = Re: (Engineered) diehards
|p = 143921
|author = Dean Hickerson
|date = April 7, 2022
}}</ref>
<ref name="post143908">{{LinkForumThread
|format = ref
|title = Re: (Engineered) diehards
|p = 143908
|author = Pavel Grankovskiy
|date = April 7, 2022
}}</ref>
<ref name="post143914">{{LinkForumThread
|format = ref
|title = Re: (Engineered) diehards
|p = 143914
|author = toroidalet
|date = April 7, 2022
}}</ref>
<ref name="post143920">{{LinkForumThread
|format = ref
|title = Re: (Engineered) diehards
|p = 143920
|author = Dean Hickerson
|date = April 7, 2022
}}</ref>
<ref name="post143997">{{LinkForumThread
|format = ref
|title = Re: (Engineered) diehards
|p = 143997
|author = EvinZL
|date = April 9, 2022
}}</ref>
<ref name="post144020">{{LinkForumThread
|format = ref
|title = Re: (Engineered) diehards
|p = 144020
|author = Rocknlol
|date = April 10, 2022
}}</ref>
<ref name="post144030">{{LinkForumThread
|format = ref
|title = Re: (Engineered) diehards
|p = 144030
|author = Adam P. Goucher
|date = April 10, 2022
}}</ref>
<ref name="post144027">{{LinkForumThread
|format = ref
|title = Re: (Engineered) diehards
|p = 144027
|author = Dean Hickerson
|date = April 10, 2022
}}</ref>
<ref name="post144045">{{LinkForumThread
|format = ref
|title = Re: (Engineered) diehards
|p = 144045
|author = toroidalet
|date = April 10, 2022
}}</ref>
<ref name="post144034">{{LinkForumThread
|format = ref
|title = Re: (Engineered) diehards
|p = 144034
|author = Pavel Grankovskiy
|date = April 9, 2022
}}</ref>
<ref name="post144077">{{LinkForumThread
|format = ref
|title = Re: (Engineered) diehards
|p = 144077
|author = Pavel Grankovskiy
|date = April 11, 2022
}}</ref>
<ref name="post144087">{{LinkForumThread
|format = ref
|title = Re: (Engineered) diehards
|p = 144087
|author = Pavel Grankovskiy
|date = April 11, 2022
}}</ref>
<ref name="post144162">{{LinkForumThread
|format = ref
|title = Re: (Engineered) diehards
|p = 144162
|author = toroidalet
|date = April 13, 2022
}}</ref>
<ref name="post149066">{{LinkForumThread
|format = ref
|title = Re: (Engineered) diehards
|p = 149066
|author = toroidalet
|date = August 2, 2022
}}</ref>
<ref name="post163493">{{LinkForumThread
|format = ref
|title = Re: (Engineered) diehards
|p = 163493
|author = EvinZL
|date = July 9, 2023
}}</ref>
<ref name="post148684">{{LinkForumThread
|format = ref
|title = Re: (Engineered) diehards
|p = 148684
|author = Tanner Jacobi
|date = July 25, 2022
}}</ref>
<ref name="post200083">{{LinkForumThread
|format = ref
|title = Re: (Engineered) diehards
|p = 200083
|author = moebius
|date = December 18, 2024
}}</ref>
<ref name="tetrational_15_loaves">{{LinkForumThread
|format = ref
|title = Re: (Engineered) diehards
|p = 163828
|author = toroidalet
|date = July 18, 2023
}}</ref>
<ref name="tetrational_1e48">{{LinkForumThread
|format = ref
|title = Re: (Engineered) diehards
|p = 163888
|author = Adam P. Goucher
|date = July 19, 2023
}}</ref>
<ref name="tetrational_exp_idea">{{LinkForumThread
|format = ref
|title = Re: (Engineered) diehards
|p = 163848
|author = Adam P. Goucher
|date = July 18, 2023
}}</ref>
<ref name="tetrational_1e1046">{{LinkForumThread
|format = ref
|title = Re: (Engineered) diehards
|p = 164085
|author = Adam P. Goucher
|date = July 23, 2023
}}</ref>
<ref name="tetrational_exp_cp4space">{{cite web|url=https://cp4space.hatsya.com/2023/07/23/miscellaneous-discoveries/|title=Miscellaneous discoveries|work=Complex Projective 4-Space|accessdate=May 23, 2023}}</ref>
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|id = 1156939723001049189
}}</ref>
</references>

==External links==
* {{LinkForumThread|title=Re: (Engineered) diehards|p=144151|author=Pavel Grankovskiy|date=April 12, 2022}} (analysis of the tetrational diehard's total runtime)

[[Category:Methuselahs]]
[[Category:Gliderless methuselahs]]

Merzenich's p31

2024-12-27T11:35:20Z

Derivative: merzenith -> merzenich

{{Oscillator
|name = Merzenich's p31
|pname = 48p31
|c = 48
|bx = 24
|by = 21
|p = 31
|m = 31
|h = 59.6
|v = 0.98
|symmetry = +e
|discoverer = Matthias Merzenich
|discoveryear = 2010
|rulemin = B3/S23
|rulemax = B38/S238
|rulespecial = [[Conway's Game of Life|Conway Life]]
|isorulemin = B3/S23
|isorulemax = B34et5c6c8/S234c6cei8
|synthesis = 22
|synthesisRLE = true
|plaintext = true
|rle = true
|animated = true
|apgcode = xp31_ccy04ajaeweaja4y0cczz66y04apaeweapa4y066
|viewerconfig = #C [[ THUMBSIZE 2 ZOOM 14 GPS 6 LOOP 31 ]]
}}
'''Merzenich's p31''' (or '''48P31''') is a {{period|31}} [[oscillator]] found by [[Matthias Merzenich]] on November 5, {{year|2010}}, being the first oscillator of this period to be discovered.<ref name="post3797" /> In terms of its {{cells|48|text=48 cells}}, it is currently the smallest known period-31 oscillator. It first appeared [[semi-natural]]ly on May 11, {{year|2015}}.<ref name="post19562" />

It gives [[duoplet]] and [[domino]] sparks, the first of which can reflect [[glider]]s by 90 degrees, while the second allows for the construction of [[non-trivial]] higher-period oscillators as seen in a [[#LCM oscillators|later section]].

Approximately 1 in 4.2 billion D4_+2 soups form a Merzenich's p31.

A {{gliders|72}} [[Glider synthesis|synthesis]] was found by [[Mark Niemiec]] on August 11, {{year|2013}},<ref name="post8781" /> which was reduced to {{gliders|24|text=24 gliders}} by [[Chris Cain]] in March {{year|2016}}.<ref name="post29398" /> On June 14, {{year|2024}}, [[Carson Cheng]] found a {{gliders|22}} synthesis.<ref name="post187511"/><ref name="j7101611955"/>

== Gallery ==
{{gallery top}}
{{gallery item|{{EmbedViewer
|pname = 48p31reflectinggliders90
|viewerconfig = #C [[ THUMBSIZE 2 ZOOM 8 GPS 15 ]]
|position = center
|caption = 48P31 reflecting gliders 90°
|style = width:300px;
}}}}
{{gallery item|{{EmbedViewer
|pname = 2merzenichsp31hassling2rpentominoes
|viewerconfig = #C [[ THUMBSIZE 2 ZOOM 8 GPS 15 ]]
|position = center
|caption = Two 48P31s hassling two R-pentominoes, found by David Raucci on April 3, 2021<ref name="post127693" />
|style = width:300px;
|apgcode = xp31_ccy04broa44aorb4y0cczz66y04qr3a44a3rq4y066zzy8ogzy711ggzy813zzwccy04broa44aorb4y0cczzw66y04qr3a44a3rq4y066
}}}}
{{gallery item|{{EmbedViewer
|pname = 66p62
|viewerconfig = #C [[ THUMBSIZE 2 ZOOM 8 GPS 15 ]]
|position = center
|caption = Merzenich's p31 rephasing a [[fumarole]] to form [[66P62]] – this appears to be a p155 oscillator, but it is not.
|style = width:300px;
|apgcode = xp62_ccy069c536635c96y0cczz66y0ci6koccok6icy066zzy4ojd11djo
}}}}
{{gallery bottom}}

== LCM oscillators ==
The [[LCM oscillator]]s below are listed due to being the smallest known ones by population, while also satisfying the condition that at least one cell oscillates at the full period. The oscillators are shown with visible [[envelope]]s, to highlight interactions between subpatterns.
{{gallery top}}
{{gallery item|{{EmbedViewer
|pname = catereron48p31
|viewerconfig = #C [[ HEIGHT 450 THUMBSIZE 2 ZOOM 12 GPS 31 THEME BOOK STARTFROM 93 ]]
|position = center
|caption = p93 with [[caterer]]
|style = width:300px;
|apgcode = xp93_ccy04ajaeweaja4y0cczz66y04apaeweapa4y066zzy44hh186zy57
}}}}
{{gallery item|{{EmbedViewer
|pname = moldon48p31
|viewerconfig = #C [[ HEIGHT 450 THUMBSIZE 2 ZOOM 12 GPS 31 THEME BOOK STARTFROM 124 ]]
|position = center
|caption = p124 with [[mold]]
|style = width:300px;
|apgcode = xp124_ccy04ajaeweaja4y0cczz66y04apaeweapa4y066zzy337bkic
}}}}
{{gallery item|{{EmbedViewer
|rle = x = 24, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
8bo6bo$7b4o2b4o$2o4bo3bo2bo3bo4b2o$2o5bob2o2b2obo5b2o$8bo6bo6$8bo6bo$
2o5bob2o2b2obo5b2o$2o4bo3bo2bo3bo4b2o$7b4o2b4o$8bo6bo6$7bo2bo$6bob2ob
o$7bo2bo$7bo2bo$6bob2obo$7bo2bo!
|viewerconfig = #C [[ HEIGHT 450 THUMBSIZE 2 ZOOM 12 GPS 31 THEME BOOK STARTFROM 155 ]]
|position = center
|caption = p155 with [[Octagon 2]]
|style = width:300px;
|apgcode = xp155_ccy04ajaeweaja4y0cczz66y04apaeweapa4y066zzy2idiidizy31w1
}}}}
{{gallery item|{{EmbedViewer
|pname = unixonmerzenichsp31
|viewerconfig = #C [[ HEIGHT 450 THUMBSIZE 2 ZOOM 12 GPS 31 THEME BOOK STARTFROM 186 ]]
|position = center
|caption = p186 with [[unix]]
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}}}}
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|pname = pentadecathlononmerzenichsp31
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|position = center
|caption = p465 with [[pentadecathlon]]
|style = width:300px;
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}}}}
{{gallery item|{{EmbedViewer
|pname = robsp16onmerzenichsp31
|viewerconfig = #C [[ HEIGHT 450 THUMBSIZE 2 ZOOM 12 GPS 31 THEME BOOK STARTFROM 496 ]]
|position = center
|caption = p496 with [[Rob's p16]]
|style = width:300px;
|apgcode = xp496_ccy04ajaeweaja4y0cczz66y04apaeweapa4y066zzy2oo0o8i22zy368wov
}}}}
{{gallery item|{{EmbedViewer
|pname = merzenichsp31onp76piheptominohassler
|viewerconfig = #C [[ ZOOM 12 HEIGHT 500 THUMBSIZE 2 THEME BOOK STARTFROM 2356 ]]
|position = center
|caption = p2356 with [[p76 pi-heptomino hassler]]
|style = width:300px;
|apgcode = xp2356_w33y333z86c8y38c68ynca23z9fy7f9y44bsy7sy1sz1631y31361yk222zwccy3ccy3ckgossssogkczye3552y42553
}}}}
{{gallery bottom}}

== See also ==
* [[110P62]]
* [[66P62]]
* [[p124 lumps of muck hassler]]
* [[Raucci's p217]]

== References ==
<references>
<ref name="j7101611955">{{CiteCatagolueJob|job=7101611955|date=June 14, 2024}}</ref>
<ref name="post3797">{{LinkForumThread
|format = ref
|p = 3797
|title = Re: Pattern of the Year 2010 competition
|author = Matthias Merzenich
|date = November 5, 2010
}}</ref>
<ref name="post8781">{{LinkForumThread
|format = ref
|p = 8781
|title = Re: Synthesising Oscillators
|author = Mark Niemiec
|date = August 13, 2013
}}</ref>
<ref name="post19562">{{LinkForumThread
|format = ref
|p = 19562
|title = Re: Soup search results
|author = gameoflifeboy
|date = May 11, 2015
}}</ref>
<ref name="post29398">{{LinkForumThread
|format = ref
|p = 29398
|title = Re: Synthesising Oscillators
|author = Chris Cain
|date = March 27, 2016
}}</ref>
<ref name="post127693">{{LinkForumThread
|format = ref
|p = 127693
|title = Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread
|author = David Raucci
|date = April 3, 2021
}}</ref>
<ref name="post187511">{{LinkForumThread
|format = ref
|p = 187511
|title = Re: Synthesising Oscillators
|author = Carson Cheng
|date = June 13, 2024 
}}</ref>
</references>

== External links ==
* {{LinkCatagolue|xp31_ccy04ajaeweaja4y0cczz66y04apaeweapa4y066}}

{{Sparker|p=31|type=reflecting duoplet|strength=strong|type2=domino}}
{{seminatural}}
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User:I am islptng/Give me something to do

2024-12-20T23:55:12Z

Derivative:

Add content here! Title! GIVE ME SOMETHING TO DO! (I prefer rulegolfing)

corderise the 4c8o engine in b34js234c.

x = 5, y = 4, rule = B34j/S234c
b3o$o2bo$2o2bo$3b2o!

this one

(d/dx 12:54 am cet 21 dec 2024) (merry chirtms)

User:I am islptng/Give me something to do

2024-12-20T23:54:40Z

Derivative:

Add content here! Title! GIVE ME SOMETHING TO DO! (I prefer rulegolfing)

corderise the 4c8o engine in b34js234c.

x = 5, y = 4, rule = B34j/S234c
b3o$o2bo$2o2bo$3b2o!

this one

Lifeline/project

2024-12-13T19:59:06Z

Derivative: .

== Project ==

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=== Pictures ===
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Naming pictures with page number looks easier (lifeline_vol05_503.png is pic 3 of page 5 of issue 5)

There must be a common way to label a picture (insert text of specific font, put "x" instead of cells, and so on) : the howto is lacking for now.

[[Category:Books and articles]]

OCA:Conway++

2024-12-13T18:12:56Z

Derivative: typo

{{Rule
|name = Conway++
|char = Chaotic
|b = 3
|s = 234c
|reversal = B01234-c78/S01234678
}}
'''Conway++''' is an [[isotropic non-totalistic cellular automaton]]. In this rule, a [[cell]] survives from one generation to the next when it has precisely 2 alive neighbours, precisely 3 alive neighbours, or precisely 4 alive neighbours all of which are diagonal neighbours; and a cell becomes alive when it has precisely 3 alive neighbours.

It is one of [[MCell]] built-in Weighted Life rules.<ref name="MCellBuilt-in"/>

==Patterns==

===Still lifes===
Conway++ supports alien extensible still lives, including "checkerboards" of arbitrary width and length.
{{EmbedViewer
|rle=x = 72, y = 35, rule = B3/S234c
bo9bo9bo19b2o8b2o8b2o$obo7bobo7bobo17bo2bo6bo2bo6bo2bo$bo9bobo7bobo16b
obo7bobobo5bobobo$12bo9bobo16bo9bobo7bobobo$23bo28bo9bobo$63bo7$63b2o
$2bo9bo9bo29b2o8bo2bo$bobo7bobo7bobo17b2o8bo2bo6bob2obo$obo7bobobo5bo
bobo15bo2bo6bob2obo4bobo2bobo$bo9bobo7bobobo15b2o8bo2bo6bob2obo$12bo9b
obo27b2o8bo2bo$23bo39b2o5$65b2o$64bo2bo$53b2o8bob2obo$3bo9bo9bo28bo2b
o6bobo2bobo$2bobo7bobo7bobo16b2o8bob2obo4bobob2obobo$bobo7bobobo5bobo
bo14bo2bo6bobo2bobo2bobobo2bobobo$obo7bobobo5bobobobo13bo2bo6bobo2bob
o2bobobo2bobobo$bo9bobo7bobobo15b2o8bob2obo4bobob2obobo$12bo9bobo27bo
2bo6bobo2bobo$23bo29b2o8bob2obo$64bo2bo$65b2o!
|position = center
|viewerconfig = #C [[ ZOOM 16 THUMBZOOM 8 WIDTH 800 HEIGHT 600 ]]
|caption =The extendable checkerboards and "super" family
}}

===Oscillators===
{{EmbedViewer
|rle=x = 250, y = 116, rule = B3/S234c
obobo17bo13bobobo114bo2bo2bo$20bobobo9bobo2bo115b7o$4bo16bobo11bob2ob
2o$20bobobo9bobo2bo113b11o$obobo17bo13bo2bobo86bobobo19bo11bo$34b2ob2o
bo111bo2bobobobo2bo$o35bo2bobo86bo20b2obobobo3bobobob2o$35bobobo110bo
bo2bob3obo2bobo$obobo123bobobo17bobobobobobobobobo$149b2obo3b2ob2o3bo
b2o$128bo3bo17bobobobobobobobobo$150bobo2bob3obo2bobo$128bobobo16b2ob
obobo3bobobob2o$66bo2bo2bo2bo76bo2bobobobo2bo$64b6o2b6o74bo11bo$63bo6b
2o6bo12bo61b11o$obobo58bo2bob2o2b2obo2bo12bo$23bo12bo12bo12b2obobobo2b
obobob2o11bo63b7o$4bo17bobo10bobo10bobo12bo2bobo4bobo2bo12b2o62bo2bo2b
o$21bobo2bo7bobobo10bobo11bobobo6bobobo$obobo15bobo3bo8bob3o8bobobo9b
2ob2o8b2ob2o10bo3bo$21bo4bo10bo6b2o5b2o11bo12bo12bo2bobo$4bo32b2o5bob
obo15bo12bo12bo3bo$22b3o12b2o6bobo14b2ob2o8b2ob2o$obobo41bobo14bobobo
6bobobo12b2o$47bo15bo2bobo4bobo2bo12bo$62b2obobobo2bobobob2o11bo$63bo
2bob2o2b2obo2bo12bo$63bo6b2o6bo$64b6o2b6o76bo3bobo$66bo2bo2bo2bo77bob
3obo$127bobobo22bo2bobo2bo$154bo2bo2b2o$131bo22b3obo3bo$153bo3bob3o$131b
o22b2o2bo2bo$153bo2bobo2bo$24b2ob2o102bo24bob3obo$23bobobobo125bobo3b
o$23bobobobo101bo$21b3obobob3o$20bo11bo$20b4o2bo2b4o$25bobo$20b4o2bo2b
4o$20bo11bo$21b3obobob3o$23bobobobo$23bobobobo$24b2ob2o$203bobo$202bo
b2o26bo$200b3o29bo$194bo4bo4b4o25bo$194b3o3b3obo2bo$158bo38bo4bo3bo$157b
3o36b2o5bo2b2o$156b2o2bo45bo$158b3o47bo$198b2o7b2o$198b2o$230bo$159b2o
9bo58b3o$51bo7bo99b2o9b2o60bo$51b3o3b3o67bobobo2bobobo30bob2o26bo6b2o
19bobo2b2o$54bobo107b2o3bobo26b2o5bo2bo17b2obo2b3o$o3bo43b2o3b2ob2o3b
2o64bo10bo25b2o3b2o26bo7bo2b2o14bob2obo3bo$49bo11bo89b2o3b2o40bo5bo2b
2o3bo10b13o$o3bo44bobo3bo3bobo65bobobo2bobobo11bobo3b2o32b2o12b4o2b2o
10b3ob2o3b6o$20b3o12b3o12b2o3bo3b2o88b2obo36bobo29bo4b2o5bo$obobo15b3o
bo10b3obo13b2ob2o69bo3bo2bo15b2o9b2o26bo30b2o4bo6b4obo$21bobobo10bobo
bo9b2o3bo3b2o90bo9b2o25b2o31bob4o6bo4b2o$4bo17bob3o10bobo9bobo3bo3bob
o65bobobo2bobobo64b2o21bo5b2o4bo$24b3o11bo10bo11bo132b2o7b2o18b6o3b2o
b3o10b2o$4bo43b2o3b2ob2o3b2o131bo29b13o10bo$54bobo104b3o32bob2o26bo3b
ob2obo$51b3o3b3o101bo2b2o29b2obo6b2o18b3o2bob2o$51bo7bo102b3o31bo3bo4b
o20b2o2bobo$163bo31bo2bob3o3b3o18bo$195b4o4bo4bo19b3o$200b3o26bo$197b
2obo$197bobo2$28bo$27bobo$27bobo$25b3ob3o$24bo3bo3bo193bo$obobo18bo3b
obo3bo193bo$23bo3bobo3bo193bo$o20b3ob2o3b2ob3o$20bo3bo7bo3bo$obobo16b
3ob2o3b2ob3o$23bo3bobo3bo$4bo18bo3bobo3bo126bo$24bo3bo3bo126b3o$obobo
20b3ob3o127bob2o$27bobo132bo$27bobo93bo2bobobo2bobobo$28bo$123bo6bo2b
o3bo$151b2o$123bo2bobobo2bobobo12b2o$149b2o$123bo6bo2bo3bo12b2o15b2o$
168b2o$123bo2bobobo2bobobo29b2o$166b2o4$156bo$156b2obo$157b3o$158bo!
|position = center
|viewerconfig = #C [[ ZOOM 2 THUMBZOOM 6 WIDTH 1600 HEIGHT 1000 ]]
|caption =The alien [[oscillator]]s collection
}}

===Guns===
Many glider guns from Life still work in Conway++, including [[Gosper glider gun]], all [[Maximum volatility gun]]s, and many guns based on compatible [[Herschel conduit]]s. However, a gun made up of two p62s, that does not work in Life, is known<ref name="post143392"/>:
{{EmbedViewer
|rle=x = 60, y = 47, rule = B3/S234c
4b3o$4bo$5bo13$20b2o$20bobo26bo$20bo25b2ob4o$10bo34bo5b2o$7b4ob2o30bo
9bo$7b2o5bo29bob2o6b3o$5bo9bo27b2o4b3o5bo$3b3o6b2obo39bo2bo$2bo5b3o4b
2o24b2o12bo2bo$bo2bo36b2o2bo$bo2bo12b2o22bo3bo8bo3b2o$14bo2b2o21b2o3b
o8bo3bo$2o3bo8bo3bo35bo2b2o$bo3bo8bo3b2o10bo10bo2bo12b2o$b2o2bo25b2o8b
o2bo$b2o12bo2bo11b2o10bo5b3o4b2o$15bo2bo24b3o6b2obo$3b2o4b3o5bo27bo9b
o$4bob2o6b3o30b2o5bo$4bo9bo32b4ob2o$5bo5b2o37bo$6b2ob4o$9bo7$45bobo$46b
2o$46bo!
|position = center
|viewerconfig = #C [[ AUTOSTART GPS 10 LOOP 124 THUMBZOOM 8 WIDTH 800 HEIGHT 800 ]]
|caption =The P62 [[gun]]
}}

==References==
<references>
<ref name="MCellBuilt-in">http://www.mirekw.com/ca/rullex_wlif.html</ref>
<ref name="post143392">{{LinkForumThread|format = ref|p = 143392 |title = Re: Rules 1 transition from Life|author = confocaloid |date = March 26th, 2022 }}</ref>
</references>

==External links==
* {{LinkForumThread|f=11|t=5705|title=B3/S234c}}
* {{LinkCatagolueRule|b3s234c}}

Talk:P71 dependent reflector loop

2024-12-13T18:10:41Z

Derivative: Created page with "should I add this to the honey farm hasslers category? ~d/dx 13 dec 2024 7:10 PM CET"

should I add this to the honey farm hasslers category? ~d/dx 13 dec 2024 7:10 PM CET

Lifeline/project

2024-12-09T18:17:01Z

Derivative: i'll be way too busy until the end of this year so unfortunately i will be unable to do this as of now, maybe i'll see in february or march if i could do this

== Project ==

*As stated in [[https://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=139#p1821 ConwayLife forums]] :
Lifeline #5 is on the way. The process might be shortened with a project where contributors register themselves for limited tasks and publish every step on this subpage :
*scan a magazine issue
*OCR and check text
*create images
*check work, create links and edit wiki page

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* To collate a Lifeline issue is to check wether a picture exists under some other name, or if a question in issue # N gets its answer in # N+1 => create a link or stays unanswered => add to [[Open problem]]s.

== Lifeline style ==

Be bold! ''Please add guidelines for :''

=== Text ===
The proposal is to keep linefeeds in the wiki source and let it flow on the page, except maybe in a table.

=== References and links ===
As usual in a wiki, only the first occurrence of a possible link is set.

=== Pictures ===
Pictures are conveniently :
*Drawn using ''golly'' and its grid that may be made 5*5, the same as Wainwright's pics
*Uploaded with the applet and saved in ConwayLife.com (.rle, to store the source file)
*Saved as .png and uploaded here : there exists a shorter way with a link to the CL site.
Naming pictures with page number looks easier (lifeline_vol05_503.png is pic 3 of page 5 of issue 5)

There must be a common way to label a picture (insert text of specific font, put "x" instead of cells, and so on) : the howto is lacking for now.

[[Category:Books and articles]]

HF94B

2024-12-02T14:48:07Z

Derivative: fixed typo

{{Conduit
|name = HF94B
|pname = hf94b
|type = elementary
|conduitfor = Herschel
|bx = 27
|by = 23
|c = 32
|m = F
|dx = 27
|dy = -4
|step = 94
|recovery = 58
|spartan = yes
|discoverer =
|discoveryear =
|rulemin = B3/S23
|rulemax =
|isorulemin = B3/S23
|isorulemax =
|plaintext = true
|rle = true
|viewerconfig = #C [[ THUMBSIZE 3 ZOOM 12 HEIGHT 500 GPS 20 PAUSE 2 T 94 PAUSE 2 LOOP 95 ]]
}}
'''HF94B''' is an [[elementary conduit]]. It appears in [[Fx153]] and [[L200]]. It consists of 4 [[eater 1]]s and one [[block]].

{{EmbedViewer
|pname = l200
|viewerconfig = #C [[ AUTOSTART ZOOM 10 THUMBSIZE 2 WIDTH 600 HEIGHT 600 GPS 20 PAUSE 2 T 94 PAUSE 2 T 113 PAUSE 2 T 141 PAUSE 2 T 200 PAUSE 2 LOOP 201 ]]
|position = center
|caption = L200
|style = width:300px;
}}

Four boats

2024-11-30T16:39:51Z

Derivative: don't see how this is a babbling brook, clearly does not meet the definition (last time i checked a string of cells cannot have four endpoints)

{{Oscillator
|name = Four boats
|pname = fourboats
|f1 = Billiard table
|c = 16
|bx = 8
|by = 8
|fc = 33.5
|p = 2
|m = 2
|h = 4
|v = 0.20
|symmetry = xk
|rotor = Diagonal on-off
|rulemin = B3/S23
|rulemax = B3678/S01235678
|rulespecial = [[Conway's Game of Life|Conway Life]], {{rl|HighLife}}
|isorulemin = B3n/S2ckn3ckn
|isorulemax = B2cik34-ejw5-c678/S01234-y5678
|synthesis = 6
|synthesisRLE = true
|plaintext = true
|rle = true
|animated = true
|viewerconfig = #C [[ HEIGHT 600 THUMBSIZE 3 ZOOM 48 GPS 2 ]]
|apgcode = xp2_8ki1688gzx3421
|pentadecathlonid = 16P2.98
}}
'''Four boats''' (or '''hourglass'''<ref>{{LinkNiemiec|objname.htm#h|title=Life objects sorted by name|nobullet=nobullet}}</ref>) is a {{period|2}} [[oscillator]], which is composed of four [[boat]]s in one of its [[phase]]s. It has two [[diagonal on-off]] [[rotor]]s enclosed by a common [[stator]]. While the two rotors are not connected, the stability of the stator still requires them to be in the same phase. It is the most common [[billiard table]] oscillator that qualifies under the most strict definition of the term; that the rotor has to be completely surrounded by the stator in all orthogonal directions.

A {{gliders|6}} [[Glider synthesis|synthesis]] of this oscillator was found by [[gmc_nxtman]] on July 12, {{year|2017}}.<ref name="post46430" />

== Formation ==
{{EmbedViewer
|rle = x = 12, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
bo$obo$obo$bo2$9bo$8bobo$8bo2bo$9bobo$8bo2bo$9b2o$9bo$2o$2o!
|position = center
|viewerconfig = #C [[ HEIGHT 500 THUMBSIZE 2 ZOOM 16 GPS 8 ]]
|style = width:300px;
}}

Four boats is typically, but not always, formed by an [[R-turner]] (see generation 16 in the pattern above) hitting an object such as a block to form a fourfold diagonally symmetric object, then being hit on both sides in a specific way simultaneously. The unstable object shown at generation 0 turns into an R-turner plus an R-pentomino that allows it to be hit on the side in exactly the correct generation. The block and beehive shown are just examples; anything with the same [[leading edge]], including an unstable object, works.

== Occurrence ==
{{related|List of common oscillators}}
Four boats is the fifty-second most common oscillator in asymmetric soups.

It is the twenty-fifth most common object on [[Catagolue]] in the symmetry the object has (D4_x4), making it the fourth most common period-2 oscillator in that symmetry.

== Gallery ==
<gallery widths=320px style="text-align:center;">
Fourboatsorigin.png|The on phase of this oscillator, the one which led to naming it four boats
</gallery>

== See also ==
* [[Harbor]]
* [[O quad-loaf]]
* [[Cyclic]]

== References ==
<references>
<ref name="post46430">{{LinkForumThread
|format = ref
|p = 46430
|title = Re: Soup search results
|author = gmc_nxtman
|date = July 12, 2017
}}</ref>
</references>

== External links ==
* {{LinkLexicon|lex_1.htm#a-4boats|name=4 boats}}
* {{LinkCatagolue|xp2_8ki1688gzx3421}}
* {{LinkPentadecathlonObject|id=16P2.98|archivedate=20221201151948}}

__NOTOC__

Period-56 pi-heptomino hasslers

2024-11-27T19:10:46Z

Derivative: "extensible wick" is a tautology

{{OscListP/P|p=56}}
{{gallery top}}
{{gallery item|{{EmbedViewer
|pname = p56piheptominohassler
|viewerconfig = #C [[ HEIGHT 500 THUMBSIZE 2 ZOOM 16 GPS 28 ]]
|position = center
|caption = p56 found by iNoMed and [[Luke Kiernan]]<ref name="post147702" />
|style = width:300px;
|apgcode = xp56_y533gx33zgg0g8ox25dy4o8gz11078cy4ogy0c87066zya621zy533y033
}}}}
{{gallery item|{{EmbedViewer
|pname = p56piheptominohasslerwick
|viewerconfig = #C [[ HEIGHT 500 THUMBSIZE 2 ZOOM 6 GPS 28 ]]
|position = center
|caption = p56 wick
|style = width:300px;
|apgcode = xp56_y73bg2kgy23bg2kgy43bg2kgy23bg2kgy4ggmmggzw697o4cy311y611y811y611y312u0p023zsw1wvy18c2c8y68c2c8y28c2c8y68c2c8y1vwgw7zo80j0f8gyzyb643sicz011dd11zy5g08k9h1ey2g08k9h1ey0g08k9h1ey2g08k9h1ezy534441y534441y334441y534441
}}}}
{{gallery item|{{EmbedViewer
|pname = p56piheptominohassler2
|viewerconfig = #C [[ HEIGHT 500 THUMBSIZE 2 ZOOM 16 GPS 28 ]]
|position = center
|caption = p56 found by David Raucci based on a partial by Carson Cheng, with reductions by various people<ref name="message1115075757975281815"/><ref name="post162326"/>
|style = width:300px;
|apgcode = xp56_y5ck8wc871zygoszgg0gy1ok6koy21z1011ye6246zy0sezy5g8ow8kozy423
}}}}
{{gallery item|{{EmbedViewer
|pname = p56piheptominohassler3
|viewerconfig = #C [[ HEIGHT 500 THUMBSIZE 2 ZOOM 8 GPS 28 ]]
|position = center
|caption = p56 found by Carson Cheng on September 20, 2023 based on a partial by David Raucci
|style = width:300px;
|apgcode = xp56_y1gygc84c3p6o8bdzc4jqid596y1ckgg0g8oy41101213y8ggc88mk4oy1ggz0ca26y8h252y4c4ooyc1gabq101y212268m93zx884s374y2o0niy53211yd11wggcsgy32s8zx278y317611wggydgg8oy59t03y24so7422z0oid2c88gy2g0gbqa1gyc3346y48k8hy8c8a6zy311y1345d22611y8og8g0ggy432101156y1cikm9bp46zyvmq23cjo6426yg1
}}}}
{{gallery item|{{EmbedViewer
|pname = p56piphisparker
|viewerconfig = #C [[ HEIGHT 500 THUMBSIZE 2 ZOOM 8 GPS 28 ]]
|position = center
|caption = p56 [[phi sparker]] found by iNoMed on September 26, 2023 based on a partial by Mitchell Riley
|style = width:300px;
|apgcode = xp56_yd32aczy4gx178czy41156yiok46zy066y9o42224oy7c871zy6ggy311hg111zy46221y43421y2c842sgzy18owggzy212101y24a96y4ca23zwggy7s44044sz470108oy512221ya33zx311yfggw354czygggx1074zyg1226
}}}}
{{gallery bottom}}
{{gallery bottom}}

==References==
<references>
<ref name="post147702">{{LinkForumThread
|format = ref
|p = 147702
|title = Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread
|author = Luke Kiernan
|date = June 29, 2022
}}</ref>
<ref name="post162326">{{LinkForumThread
|format = ref
|p = 162326
|title = Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread
|author = iNoMed
|date = June 5, 2023
}}</ref>
<ref name="message1115075757975281815">{{CiteDiscord
|author = David Raucci
|date = June 4, 2023
|channel = cgol
|id = 1115075757975281815
}}</ref>
</references>
__NOTOC__

User talk:Derivative

2024-11-14T19:54:45Z

Derivative: /* Lifeline viewers */

User talk:Derivative

2024-11-11T12:54:48Z

Derivative: confirmed I saw the message

Lifeline/project

2024-11-07T17:51:38Z

Derivative: signed up for vol 3 viewers

== Project ==

*As stated in [[https://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=139#p1821 ConwayLife forums]] :
Lifeline #5 is on the way. The process might be shortened with a project where contributors register themselves for limited tasks and publish every step on this subpage :
*scan a magazine issue
*OCR and check text
*create images
*check work, create links and edit wiki page

== Issues status ==

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
! issue !! scan !! OCR !! check_text !! layout !! images !! viewers !! noscript_images !! links_check_all !! summary !! collate
|-
|| [[Lifeline Volume 1|1]] ||X||X||X||X||X||X||X||X||X|| |
|-
|| [[Lifeline Volume 2|2]] ||X||X||X||X||X||X||p||X||X|| |
|-
|| [[Lifeline Volume 3|3]] ||X||X||X||X||X||d/dx (maybe)|| ||X||X|| |
|-
|| [[Lifeline Volume 4|4]] ||X||X||X||X||X||X||p||X||X|| |
|-
|| [[Lifeline Volume 5|5]] ||X||X||X||X||X||X||p||p|| || |
|-
|| [[Lifeline Volume 6|6]] ||X||X||X||X||X||X|| ||p|| || |
|-
|| [[Lifeline Volume 7|7]] ||X||X||X||X||X||X|| ||p|| || |
|-
|| [[Lifeline Volume 8|8]] ||X||X||X||X||X||X||p||p|| || |
|-
|| [[Lifeline Volume 9|9]] ||X||X||X||X||X||X|| ||X|| || |
|-
|| [[Lifeline Volume 10|10]] ||X||X||X||X||X||X|| ||X|| || |
|-
|| [[Lifeline Volume 11|11]] ||X||X||X|| || || || || || || |
|}
* ''Please help fixing this table!''
* "X", done ; "p", partially ; " ", please help = fill blanks with your name if you have some time.
* noscript_images are the images that appear instead of viewers when javascript is disabled. These currently don't work with script blockers anyway, so they're a low priority.
* Summaries are in [[Lifeline|Lifeline#Summary of the issues]]
* To collate a Lifeline issue is to check wether a picture exists under some other name, or if a question in issue # N gets its answer in # N+1 => create a link or stays unanswered => add to [[Open problem]]s.

== Lifeline style ==

Be bold! ''Please add guidelines for :''

=== Text ===
The proposal is to keep linefeeds in the wiki source and let it flow on the page, except maybe in a table.

=== References and links ===
As usual in a wiki, only the first occurrence of a possible link is set.

=== Pictures ===
Pictures are conveniently :
*Drawn using ''golly'' and its grid that may be made 5*5, the same as Wainwright's pics
*Uploaded with the applet and saved in ConwayLife.com (.rle, to store the source file)
*Saved as .png and uploaded here : there exists a shorter way with a link to the CL site.
Naming pictures with page number looks easier (lifeline_vol05_503.png is pic 3 of page 5 of issue 5)

There must be a common way to label a picture (insert text of specific font, put "x" instead of cells, and so on) : the howto is lacking for now.

[[Category:Books and articles]]

User:Derivative/figuring out html

2024-11-03T19:41:31Z

Derivative: Created page with "tghis is the page where i test html to make my user page look somewhat ok <h1> WHY DOESNT THIS VERSION OF A MEDIA WIKI WIKI HAVE A GRAPHICAL EDITOR </h1> this is a paragraph i see <LV> x = 49, y = 61, rule = B3/S23 21bo$21bo$21bo$21bo$20b2o$6bo13bo$6bo13bo$6bo13bo$5b2o13bo24bo$5bo14bo 24bo$5bo14bo24bo$5bo13bo25b2o$5bo13bo26bo$5bo13bo26bo$4bo14bo26bo$4bo 14bo26bo$4bo14bo26bo$4bo13bo27bo$4bo13bo27bo$4bo13bo27bo$4bo13bo27bo$ 4bo13bo27bo$3b2o12bo28bo$3bo13bo28bo$3bo13bo28bo..."

tghis is the page where i test html to make my user page look somewhat ok
<h1> WHY DOESNT THIS VERSION OF A MEDIA WIKI WIKI HAVE A GRAPHICAL EDITOR </h1>
this is a paragraph i see

<LV> x = 49, y = 61, rule = B3/S23
21bo$21bo$21bo$21bo$20b2o$6bo13bo$6bo13bo$6bo13bo$5b2o13bo24bo$5bo14bo
24bo$5bo14bo24bo$5bo13bo25b2o$5bo13bo26bo$5bo13bo26bo$4bo14bo26bo$4bo
14bo26bo$4bo14bo26bo$4bo13bo27bo$4bo13bo27bo$4bo13bo27bo$4bo13bo27bo$
4bo13bo27bo$3b2o12bo28bo$3bo13bo28bo$3bo13bo28bo$3bo13bo28bo$3bo12b2o
28bo$3bo12bo29bo$3bo12bo29bo$2b2o12bo29bo$2bo13bo12b2o15bo$2bo13bo12b
2o15bo$2bo13bo29bo$2bo12bo30bo$2bo9b4o30bo$2bo7b3o2bo13bo16bo$2bo3b5o
4bo13bo16bo$7o8bo13bo16bo$bo13bo13bo16bo$bo13bo13bo17bo$bo12bo14bo17bo
$bo12bo14bo17bo$bo12bo13b2o17bo$bo12bo13bo18bo$bo12bo13bo18bo$2o12bo
13bo18bo$o13bo13bo18b2o$o13bo13bo19bo$o13bo13bo19bo$o13bo12b2o$o13bo
12bo$o13bo12bo$o13bo12bo$o13bo$o13bo32b2o$o13bo32b2o$o13bo$o13bo$o13bo
$14bo$14bo!
</LV>

please help how do i import a pattern

<h2> aitch too </h2>
no this is a paragraph that was the title

<h3> sub paragraph </h3>

<h4> what does h4 do </h4>

smaller paragraphs!!!!! why would anyone use this

wait is this just bolded text

<h4> tony honcho jarnow </h4>
<b> john horton conway </b>

AGHAHA IT IS

<h5> what does h5 do then </h5>

not surprised

<h6> same thing? </h6>

yep

<quote> The greatest joys in life are oranges, and poopoo </quote>

aw cmon

in conclusion someone help with inserting patterns into articles plsplsp slpspslpslp slpspsls

User:Derivative

2024-11-02T20:11:01Z

Derivative:

Hi

I'm a dude who likes funny pixels that bounce around on a screen

things ill add later:

- all of my pinker bluffers

- plaines

- shaky!

- spongecake

- how I overclocked the hendecareflector to a duodecareflector

cheers.

User:Derivative

2024-11-02T20:10:40Z

Derivative:

Hi

I'm a dude who likes funny pixels that bounce around on a screen

things ill add later:

- all of my pinker bluffers
- plaines
- shaky!
- spongecake
- how I overclocked the hendecareflector to a duodecareflector

cheers.

User talk:Derivative

2024-11-02T20:05:12Z

Derivative: Created page with "Temp"

Temp

User:Derivative

2024-11-02T20:04:54Z

Derivative: Created page with "Temp"

Temp