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New Objects in Seeds rule
Posted: June 16th, 2009, 11:57 pm
by Extrementhusiast
First time at these forums!
I have found many new objects in the Seeds rule. A new spaceship:
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..OO..
.O..O.
O....O
...OO.
O.....
...O..
VERY NEW! A spaceship tagalong:
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.OO......
......OO.
O..O.....
........O.
..........
...O.....O
..........
.......O..
A pattern that it comes from (also down below):
A rake:
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.OO...
O.....
...O..
....O.
..O..O
VERY NEW! A rake tagalong:
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.OO......
......OO.
O..O.....
........O.
..........
...O.....O
A puffer train that emits "blinkers":
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.OO..
O....
...O.
....O
..O..
.O...
O....
REALLY NEW! A variation on this pattern:
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..OO..
.O....
....O.
.....O
...O..
..O...
.O....
O.....
NEW! A different blinker puffer:
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..OO...
.O..O..
O....O.
.OO...O
.......
...O...
REALLY NEW! Yet another blinker puffer:
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..OO...
.O..O..
O....O.
...OO..
...OOOO
A pattern that it comes from at gen 262:
NEW! A double blinker puffer:
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....OO.....
......O....
...O...O...
..O.....O..
.O.......O.
O.........O
And a pattern it comes from:
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...OO.
.....O
..O...
.O....
O..O..
....O.
......
....O.
REALLY NEW! Another double blinker puffer:
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..OO...
....O..
.O.....
O......
..O....
...O...
....O..
.....O.
......O
NEW! A possible new oscillator:
Try this combination:
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O....O
.O..O.
......
.O..O.
O....O
NEW! A puffer that generates it:
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..OO.
....O
.O...
O....
..O..
...O.
FOUR other oscillators:
"Blinker":
NEW! An asymmetrical chaotic puffer that makes symmetrical debris (more interesting than important):
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.OO.....
O.......
...O....
....O..
..O..O.
.O....O
(used codes for monospace)
NOTE: I found all of these
without a search program!
Wow, that was a long post!
Re: New Objects in Seeds rule
Posted: June 17th, 2009, 8:18 am
by Nathaniel
It looks as though some of these objects have been discovered before, although they are quite difficult to find (see
this page).
In particular, the spaceship is contained in c1-ss.lif from the "M:b2/s" pattern collection and the rake is contained in c1-rakes.lif. I can't find the puffer itself exactly within those pattern collections, but several slight variants of it can be found in c1_puf.lif and p8.lif.
Still, very nice work, and this shows that we need to get a Seeds page up and running the LifeWiki to catalogue these things
Re: New Objects in Seeds rule
Posted: June 17th, 2009, 12:43 pm
by Extrementhusiast
Thanks.
BTW I did not hear of any rakes or puffers, and when I looked up the website for spaceships for different types of rules (from Wikipedia, not the Life Wiki), I didn't find my pattern.
Re: New Objects in Seeds rule
Posted: June 17th, 2009, 12:46 pm
by Nathaniel
Extrementhusiast wrote:BTW I did not hear of any rakes or puffers, and when I looked up the website for spaceships for different types of rules (from Wikipedia, not the Life Wiki), I didn't find my pattern.
Yeah, it's painfully hard to find lists of known patterns in non-Life rules (and in some instances, even Life itself) since they're so scattered. Hopefully we'll have that fixed in the not-too-distant future
Re: New Objects in Seeds rule
Posted: June 17th, 2009, 1:08 pm
by Extrementhusiast
Man, that was an awfully fast reply. A pattern that generates the spaceship at around gen 150 (found it while experimenting with chaotic puffers):
The ship travels to the left at about this position:
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....O....
...O.O...
..X...O..
.O.....O.
O.......O
.O.....O.
..O...O..
...O.O...
....O....
Re: New Objects in Seeds rule
Posted: June 25th, 2009, 5:25 pm
by Extrementhusiast
New things in first post as of 22:25 UTC.
Update: 22:31 UTC.
Update: 22:44 UTC.
Updated 23:07 UTC on 03JUL.
Updated 00:07 UTC on 04JUL.
Updated 00:41 UTC on 13AUG.
Re: New Objects in Seeds rule
Posted: October 16th, 2009, 4:57 pm
by Axaj
I believe that the "blinker" you refer to is known as is called "checkers".
Re: New Objects in Seeds rule
Posted: November 1st, 2009, 1:48 pm
by velcrorex
I found a couple objects in Seeds.
Here's a period 6 c/2 space ship:
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x = 20, y = 17, rule = B2/S
4bo10bo$4bo10bo$4bo10bo4$3bo4bo2bo4bo2$2bo14bo$4b2ob2o2b2ob2o$4b
o10bo$bo6bo2bo6bo$3bob4o2b4obo$3bo3bo4bo3bo$o3bo2bo4bo2bo3bo$2bo
bo10bobo$2bobo10bobo!
And a closely related c/2 backwards rake:
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x = 18, y = 17, rule = B2/S
15boo$bbobo$14bobbo5$bb6obb6o$5bo6bo$bbobbobboobbobbo$boo5boo5boo$8boo
$bo14bo$oobboobobboboobboo$$o3bo8bo3bo$bbo12bo!
I think these are new objects.
edit:
more generally, the spaceship is 'extensible'
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x = 20, y = 39, rule = B2/S
3bobo$bbo3bo$$bbo3bo$3bobo$$bboo$$bobbo7$bboo$$bobbo$14bobo$13bo3bo$$
13bo3bo$14bobo$$bboo12boo$$bobbo10bobbo$$8bobbo$$bbo14bo$4booboobboob
oo$4bo10bo$bo6bobbo6bo$3bob4obb4obo$3bo3bo4bo3bo$o3bobbo4bobbo3bo$bbob
o10bobo$bbobo10bobo!
Re: New Objects in Seeds rule
Posted: November 6th, 2009, 10:41 am
by genarojm
It is amazing how many structures emerge on Seed rule. Time ago we had reported new structures in Life rule B2/S7 that is totally equivalent to Seed rule (thanks to Dave Green), as well B2/S78. You can see a number of these structures and collisions from:
http://arxiv.org/abs/0908.0828
So the whole RLE files constructed with Golly for this rule are available from:
http://uncomp.uwe.ac.uk/genaro/Diffusio ... nLife.html
On the way, also I have constructed from a simple idea a device as double memory. This one use four glider guns and one oscillator that change on every collision.
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#CXRLE Pos=-59,-117
x = 355, y = 355, rule = B2/S7
186b2o7b2o$185bo2bo5bo2bo$184bo5b3o5bo$191bo$191bo$191bo$183bo15bo$
186bo2bo6bo$190bo3$193bo4b2o$192bo7bo$197bo$196bo$182b2o5bo8bo$174b2o
5bo2bo5bo6bo$173bo2bo3bo4bo$172bo4bo4b2o$178b2o5bo$171b2o5bobo11bo2bo$
173bo5b2o$174bo3bo$176bobo10bo$190bo5b2o$198bo$195bo2$183bo10bobo$182b
o10bo3bo2$189bo3bo3bo$177b2o11bo3bobo$176bo$179bo3bo$173b2obobo3bo$
172bo2bo4bo$171bo2b2o24b2o$172bo7bo11bobo7bo$170b2o5b2o12bo3bo3bo$172b
o16b2o7bo$172bobobo12bobo8bo$182bo6bo7b2o21b2o7b2o$183bo16b2o17bo2bo5b
o2bo$199bo18bo5b3o5bo$177bo42bo4bo4bo$183bo34bo3bo2bo2bo3bo$188bo$186b
obobo34bo$183bo3b3o33bo$185b3ob3o3b2o$187b3o7bo27bo$186bobobo3bo29bo$
188bo4bo38b2o$195bo38bo$194bo32bo3bo$226bo3bo$216b2o14bo$208b2o5bo2bo
10b2o$207bo2bo3bo4bo3bo8b2o$206bo4bo12bo6bo$207bo2bo3b2o$210bo$213bo2b
o3bo3$163b2o48bo6bo9b2o$162bo60bo8bo$165bo51bo6bo4bo$216bo$228bobo$
227bo3bo3$211b2o4bo7bo$210bo5bo6bobo$168bo44bo10bo$169bo37b2obobo$206b
o2bo4bo$205bo2b2o24b2o$206bo29bo$209bobo21bo$210bo13bo7bo$214bobo5bobo
4bo4bo$212bo10bobo2bo4bo$211bo4bo4b3o$211b2o2bo$209bobo$216bo$217bo$
208bo2$229b2o$231bo$80bo147bo$79bo147bo$54bo24bo3bo145bo$53bo5bo21bo2b
o141b2o$44bobo6bo3bobo7bo14bo146b2o$43bo11bo4bo5bo4bo21bo134bo$42bo2bo
10bobo7bo3bo21bo5bo69bo42bo$42bo15bo9bo14bo8bo3bobo70bo39bo$43bo2bo23b
o13bo9bo4bo109bo13bobo$55bo15bo23bobo113bo$44bo11bo40bo125bobo$44b3obo
2bo22b2o8bo17bobo$44bo7bo7bo7bo7bo5b2o$49bo9bo7bo7bo8b2o16bobo$43bo2bo
36bobo$42bo42bo$42bo2bo17bo2bo$43bo15bo$44bobo11bo$57bo10bo5bo14bo$57b
o5bo5bo5bo7bobo2bo$58bo2bo24bo$59bobo16bo4bo$63bo2bo9bo$74bo2bo6bobo$
60bo13bo6bo3b3o12bo2bo$59bob2o12bobo4bo$58bo19b2obo5bo13b2o$58bo18bobo
10bo$59bobo15bo$60bo17bobo87bo18bo$79bo89bo15bo$185bo$187bo$38bo$37bo
5bo$12bo24bo3bobo$6bo4bo27bo4bo$2bo8bo3bo9bo14bobo$bo11bo2bo7bo4bobo
10bo8bo$o6bo6bo9bo3bo3bo17bo$o19bo5bo12bo10bo3bo$bo26bo3bo5bo13bo2bo$
11bo17bobo21bo$2bo9bo7bo17bo$2b4o33bobo8bo$2bo5bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bobobo$
7bo7bo7bo7bo8b3o6b3o$bo45b3ob3o$o48b3o72bo2bo$o6bo40bobobo$bo15bobo30b
o74b2o$2bo13bo$6bo8bo2bo9bo5bo8bo2bo2bo$15bo2bo10bo5bo6bo$16bo$17bo2b
2o14bobo248bo$19bobo12bo253bo$19b2ob2o8bo2bo3bo248bo$18bo13bo6bo5bo
240bo$17bo5bo9bobo5bo$16bo19b2o$16bo5bo12bobo3bo127bo2bo57bo23bo23bo$
17bo3bo13bo130bo3b2o26bo30bo23bo23bo$18bobo15bobob2o114bo8bo31bo117bo$
20bo16bobo117bo39bo117bobo16bo$39bo117bo40bo114b2obobo15bobo$77bo23bo
23bo30bo162bo13bo3bo$76bo23bo23bo188bo3bobo12bo5bo$317b2o19bo$313bo5bo
bo9bo5bo$68bo103bo136bo5bo6bo13bo$66bo106bo141bo3bo2bo8b2ob2o$66bo253b
o12bobo$67bo248bobo14b2o2bo$338bo$312bo6bo5bo10bo2bo$305bo2bo2bo8bo5bo
9bo2bo8bo$338bo13bo$228b2o74bo30bobo15bo$302bobobo40bo6bo$227bo2bo72b
3o48bo$301b3ob3o45bo$303b3o6b3o8bo7bo7bo7bo$302bobobo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo5b
o$304bo8bobo33b4o$316bo17bo7bo9bo$301bo21bobo17bo$299bo2bo13bo5bo3bo
26bo$300bo3bo10bo12bo5bo19bo$304bo17bo3bo3bo9bo6bo6bo$303bo8bo10bobo4b
o7bo2bo11bo$312bobo14bo9bo3bo8bo$310bo4bo27bo4bo$311bobo3bo24bo$311bo
5bo$316bo3$275bo$274bobo17bo$277bo15bobo$264bo10bobo18bo$171b2o79b2o
13bo5bob2o19bo$170bo2bo98bo4bobo12b2obo$251bo2bo12b3o3bo6bo13bo$268bob
o6bo2bo$278bo9bo2bo$271bo4bo16bobo$268bo24bo2bo$266bo2bobo7bo5bo5bo5bo
$265bo14bo5bo10bo$296bo11bobo$295bo15bo$288bo2bo17bo2bo$269bo42bo$269b
obo36bo2bo$250bobo16b2o8bo7bo7bo9bo$271b2o5bo7bo7bo7bo7bo$250bobo17bo
8b2o22bo2bob3o$257bo40bo11bo$257bobo23bo15bo$255bo4bo9bo13bo23bo2bo$
256bobo3bo8bo14bo9bo15bo$256bo5bo21bo3bo7bobo10bo2bo$261bo21bo4bo5bo4b
o11bo$272bo14bo7bobo3bo6bobo$270bo2bo21bo5bo$271bo3bo24bo$275bo$274bo
3$155bo$157bo$157bo15bo$155bo18bo20$117bobo$131bo$117bobo13bo$133bo39b
o$131bo42bo$114bo$112b2o$115b2o$113bo$115bo$114bo$111bo$112b2o2$134bo$
125bo$126bo$131bobo$127bo2b2o$119b3o4bo4bo$109bo4bo2bobo10bo$108bo4bo
4bobo5bobo$110bo7bo13bo$109bo21bobo$106bo29bo$107b2o24b2o2bo$128bo4bo
2bo$130bobob2o37bo$118bo10bo44bo$117bobo6bo5bo$117bo7bo4b2o3$111bo3bo$
112bobo$126bo$113bo4bo6bo51bo$110bo8bo60bo$111b2o9bo6bo48b2o3$122bo3bo
2bo$132bo$127b2o3bo2bo$111bo6bo12bo4bo$109b2o8bo3bo4bo3bo2bo$112b2o10b
o2bo5b2o$110bo14b2o$112bo3bo$111bo3bo32bo$108bo38bo$109b2o38bo4bo$118b
o29bo3bobobo$117bo27bo7b3o$146b2o3b3ob3o$119bo33b3o3bo$117bo34bobobo$
154bo$110bo3bo2bo2bo3bo34bo$112bo4bo4bo42bo$110bo5b3o5bo18bo$111bo2bo
5bo2bo17b2o16bo$112b2o7b2o21b2o7bo6bo$142bo8bobo12bobobo$144bo7b2o16bo
$143bo3bo3bo12b2o5b2o$140bo7bobo11bo7bo$141b2o24b2o2bo$162bo4bo2bo$
160bo3bobob2o$159bo3bo$166bo$146bobo3bo11b2o$145bo3bo3bo2$145bo3bo10bo
$146bobo10bo2$147bo$144bo$145b2o5bo$153bo10bobo$164bo3bo$162b2o5bo$
147bo2bo11bobo5b2o$157bo5b2o$159b2o4bo4bo$157bo4bo3bo2bo$145bo6bo5bo2b
o5b2o$144bo8bo5b2o$146bo$145bo$142bo7bo$143b2o4bo3$152bo$146bo6bo2bo$
143bo15bo$151bo$151bo$151bo$144bo5b3o5bo$145bo2bo5bo2bo$146b2o7b2o!
Re: New Objects in Seeds rule
Posted: November 6th, 2009, 11:02 am
by genarojm
Looking also some way to construct gates here is a collision where a glider from four gliders is conserved.
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#CXRLE Pos=-78,-40
x = 129, y = 102, rule = B2/S7
100b2o18b2o$96b2o4bo16bo4b2o$100bo20bo$95bobo3bo18bo3bobo$97bo26bo2$
95bo6bo16bo6bo$103bo14bo3$102bo16bo$103bo14bo3$102bo16bo$103bo2b2o6b2o
2bo$103bobo2bo4bo2bobo$98b2o3bob2o2bo2bo2b2obo3b2o$97bo4bo4bo6bo4bo4bo
$100bobobo4b4o4bobobo$108bo4bo$99b3o18b3o2$100b2ob2o2b2o4b2o2b2ob2o$
102bo6bo2bo6bo$102bo3bo8bo3bo$109bo2bo$107bo6bo5$125b2o$112b2o10bo2bo$
111bo10b2o4bo$100bo2bo10bo3bo2b2o3b2o$101b2o12bo3b3o$113bo12bo$122bo2$
116bo$112bo5$12bo$7bo2bobo$3bobobo4bobo$bo2bob2o6bobo$bobobo4bo3bobobo
bo$2b2o14bobo$2bo16b2o$21bo$o16bo$o16bo2$2bobo14bo$2b2o12bo$bobo6bo3bo
bo8bo$bo7bo4bo7b4o66bo$3bobo3b3o10bob3o61bo$5bo18bo$82bo$78bo12bo$83b
3o3bo12b2o$77b2o3b2o2bo3bo10bo2bo$76bo4b2o10bo$77bo2bo10b2o$78b2o5$90b
o6bo$92bo2bo$85bo3bo8bo3bo$85bo6bo2bo6bo$83b2ob2o2b2o4b2o2b2ob2o2$82b
3o18b3o$91bo4bo$83bobobo4b4o4bobobo$80bo4bo4bo6bo4bo4bo$81b2o3bob2o2bo
2bo2b2obo3b2o$86bobo2bo4bo2bobo$86bo2b2o6b2o2bo$85bo16bo3$86bo14bo$85b
o16bo3$86bo14bo$78bo6bo16bo6bo2$80bo26bo$78bobo3bo18bo3bobo$83bo20bo$
79b2o4bo16bo4b2o$83b2o18b2o!
Re: New Objects in Seeds rule
Posted: January 16th, 2010, 1:23 am
by Extrementhusiast
I'm surprised this doesn't explode:
Re: New Objects in Seeds rule
Posted: January 18th, 2010, 12:35 am
by knightlife
Naturally occurring puffer and eater combo:
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x = 3, y = 23, rule = B2/S
2o7$2o7$b2o8$b2o!
The starting pattern is only 8 cells! The puffer/eater combo is moving east ahead of the explosion at around generation 100. The puffer is not in the collection c1-puf but is only a slight variant. The eater is not new. There is also a small spaceship moving west ahead of the explosion.
Sierpinski fleets (probably nothing new):
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x = 161, y = 2, rule = B2/S
o7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo$o7bo7bo
7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo!
Non-exploding irregular fleets are formed at 90 degrees to initial fleets:
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x = 2, y = 262, rule = B2/S
2o20$2o20$2o16$2o17$2o20$2o16$2o59$2o16$2o17$2o20$2o20$2o20$2o!
Re: New Objects in Seeds rule
Posted: January 18th, 2010, 2:11 am
by Sokwe
There are three collections of B2/S patterns that I know of: two can be found
here, and the third can be found
here.
Re: New Objects in Seeds rule
Posted: July 8th, 2010, 11:34 pm
by velcrorex
Kind of an extensible tail for a p4 knight-ship:
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x = 51, y = 31, rule = /2
bo$$oo$4bobo$6bobo$4b3o$7boo$11bobo$13bobo$11b3o$14boo$18bobo$20bobo$
18b3o$21boo$25bobo$27bobo$25b3o$28boo$32bobo$34bobo$32b3o$35boo$39bobo
$41bobo$39b3o$42boo$46bobo$48bobo$46b3o$49boo!