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I am having a lot of trouble with getting apgsearch and ikpx running
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Re: Problems with software

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I think you'll need to provide some more details about what problems you face, so that other people can at least attempt to help.

Some earlier [attempts at] discussion of similar questions: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=4782&start=100
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get_Snacked wrote: December 3rd, 2024, 7:35 pm which nvcc, cuda, and driver versions are compatible for usage of Silk? is there somewhere i can check?
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When I try to run the precompiled version of apgsearch from https://catagolue.hatsya.com/apgsearch, it gives me this warning:

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Microsoft Defender SmartScreen prevented an unrecognized app from starting. Running this app might put your PC at risk.

App: 
apgluxe-windows-x86_64.exe 
Publisher:  
Unknown publisher
Why does it give me this message?
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R2INT wrote: January 20th, 2025, 8:37 pm When I try to run the precompiled version of apgsearch from https://catagolue.hatsya.com/apgsearch, it gives me this warning:

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Microsoft Defender SmartScreen prevented an unrecognized app from starting. Running this app might put your PC at risk.

App: 
apgluxe-windows-x86_64.exe 
Publisher:  
Unknown publisher
Why does it give me this message?
because the publisher is unknown, its automatic, I got the same message too. its kinda useless
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R2INT wrote: January 20th, 2025, 8:37 pm When I try to run the precompiled version of apgsearch from https://catagolue.hatsya.com/apgsearch, it gives me this warning:

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Microsoft Defender SmartScreen prevented an unrecognized app from starting. Running this app might put your PC at risk.

App: 
apgluxe-windows-x86_64.exe 
Publisher:  
Unknown publisher
Why does it give me this message?
This isn't signed and have no publisher according to Windows (although it has a publisher). Run it as always, ignore the false warning.
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Re: Problems with software

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I'm trying out golly on linux (wayland+kubuntu) and I'm having problems with its ui, specifically text and icons being hard to read. I've seen some mention of a dark mode but I cant find it anywhere in the settings. Is there anything I can do, preferably without building golly myself?

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MinekPo1 wrote: February 6th, 2025, 8:29 am
The following post in the "Golly bugs" thread seems to be relevant. Unfortunately there were no replies, as far as I can tell. viewtopic.php?p=172340#p172340
randomviewer896 wrote: December 1st, 2023, 11:48 pm When I start Golly with a dark theme active in Linux, the text in the left pane is invisible. I think this is due to Golly asking the OS what color to use for the text's foreground color, but at the same time hard-coding the text's background color.

This screenshot was taken in Ubuntu with XFCE and the adwaita-dark theme, however the effect happens on a handful of other distros too.
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Re: Problems with software

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I may be trying to use apgluxe wrong, but when I try to run it, it gives this error:

-bash: ./apgluxe: No such file or directory

Does anyone know what to do in this case?

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eRroR_6o6 wrote: February 16th, 2025, 12:23 am I may be trying to use apgluxe wrong, but when I try to run it, it gives this error:

-bash: ./apgluxe: No such file or directory

Does anyone know what to do in this case?
I also met this case many times. Usually you have to either type dir or sudo ./recompile.sh .
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b-engine wrote: February 16th, 2025, 12:56 am
eRroR_6o6 wrote: February 16th, 2025, 12:23 am I may be trying to use apgluxe wrong, but when I try to run it, it gives this error:

-bash: ./apgluxe: No such file or directory

Does anyone know what to do in this case?
I also met this case many times. Usually you have to either type dir or sudo ./recompile.sh .
Correction: do not use 'sudo' in this case. As far as I can tell, there should be no need at all to use 'sudo' here. Simply

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./recompile.sh
(in the correct working directory) should work.
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I just can't use CAViewer normally (Win11).
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islptng wrote: February 16th, 2025, 6:16 am I just can't use CAViewer normally (Win11).
I did use CAViewer (on Ubuntu) a few times (but I'm not an active user of that program). I have some thoughts on how it could be improved.

However, the phrase "I just can't use CAViewer normally" fails to be a useful description of a specific problem. What exactly happens when you attempt to use the program? Does it fail to work? Does it work in some unexpected way? What is the problem?
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confocaloid wrote: February 16th, 2025, 4:08 am Correction: do not use 'sudo' in this case. As far as I can tell, there should be no need at all to use 'sudo' here. Simply

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./recompile.sh
(in the correct working directory) should work.
As far as I know, I must use 'sudo' to run recompile.sh correctly. Just type in ./recompile.sh results in an error.
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b-engine wrote: February 16th, 2025, 7:54 am
confocaloid wrote: February 16th, 2025, 4:08 am Correction: do not use 'sudo' in this case. As far as I can tell, there should be no need at all to use 'sudo' here. Simply

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./recompile.sh
(in the correct working directory) should work.
As far as I know, I must use 'sudo' to run recompile.sh correctly. Just type in ./recompile.sh results in an error.
That sounds like a problem separate from being able to compile apgsearch.

I don't know about your system and can't say why it doesn't work for you, but normally you shouldn't need any extra permissions merely to be able to compile a program as a user. As long as the compiler tools are already installed in the system, you can use them to compile source code (e.g. apgsearch) as any user, only modifying/creating files in your own working directory.
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confocaloid wrote: February 16th, 2025, 8:05 am That sounds like a problem separate from being able to compile apgsearch.

I don't know about your system and can't say why it doesn't work for you, but normally you shouldn't need any extra permissions merely to be able to compile a program as a user. As long as the compiler tools are already installed in the system, you can use them to compile source code (e.g. apgsearch) as any user, only modifying/creating files in your own working directory.
I'm using Windows 11, using Ubuntu in Windows Terminal. APGsearch works in the Ubuntu or WLS terminal without any problems expect when recompiling, which needs superuser privileges.
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Occasionally, when I run apgsearch for b2eik3ain4art5aenr6eiks02e3iqr4rz5aj6k (Asteroids), it freezes. Does anyone know why?
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R2INT wrote: March 14th, 2025, 9:58 pm Occasionally, when I run apgsearch for b2eik3ain4art5aenr6eiks02e3iqr4rz5aj6k (Asteroids), it freezes. Does anyone know why?
Hard to tell without further investigation, but often that happens due to some (not too common, but occurring naturally) chaotic/pathological reaction.
In such cases, apgsearch either stucks for a long time (minutes, hours) before eventually printing a warning message and proceeding further with other soups, or else stucks apparently forever and slowly eats available memory.

Depending on your operating system, you might want to limit how much memory apgsearch can use, so that it will not unexpectedly force you to reboot.

The tabulation "zz" gives examples of "interesting" soups like this one:

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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B2eik3ain4art5aenr6eik/S02e3iqr4rz5aj6k
ob2ob3ob2o$bo2bob5o3b2o$2o2bob2ob2ob4o$4bo2b2o6bo$obo5bo2b2obo$2bo2bo
4bo2b2o$o2b2o4bo2b4o$2b2o2bo2b5obo$6ob2o4b3o$3bo4b2obo2b2o$bob2o2b2o2b
ob2o$b3obobobo3b2o$obo2b2o7b2o$bo2bobob3obo2bo$b3obo2b2o4bo$o4b2o4bobo!
One can imagine that some naturally-occurring interaction between two or more such objects would be sufficiently "interesting" to make apgsearch stuck trying to understand what is going on.
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confocaloid wrote: March 14th, 2025, 10:14 pm One can imagine that some naturally-occurring interaction between two or more such objects would be sufficiently "interesting" to make apgsearch stuck trying to understand what is going on.
Here is an example of a pattern that lasts for hundreds of thousands of generations and produces a number of patterns equal to about a 30,000-soup haul:
R2INT wrote: November 5th, 2024, 9:29 pm Placing debris behind [a c/4 strange growth] results in very long-lived patterns:

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x = 11, y = 4, rule = B2eik3ain4art5aenr6eik/S02e3iqr4rz5aj6k
7b3o$6b2ob2o$o6b3o$8bo!
In this example, the strange growth lives for about 446,100 generations before the debris behind catches up and destroys it. However, the ash it left behind lives on until about generation 548,900.
The pattern takes an extremely long time (30min-1hr) to stabilize in Golly.
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Detecting zz_EXPLOSIVE already causes a delay (see soups/second in the comments):

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#C b2eik3ain4art5aenr6eiks02e3iqr4rz5aj6k/C1: 117028 soups completed (45.786 soups/second current, 44.262 overall).
#C b2eik3ain4art5aenr6eiks02e3iqr4rz5aj6k/C1: 117460 soups completed (43.200 soups/second current, 44.258 overall).
#C b2eik3ain4art5aenr6eiks02e3iqr4rz5aj6k/C1: 118041 soups completed (57.828 soups/second current, 44.309 overall).
#C Chaotic-growth pattern detected: zz_EXPLOSIVE
#C URL: https://catagolue.hatsya.com/hashsoup/C1/k_ZiAM2Dqxbbny118041/b2eik3ain4art5aenr6eiks02e3iqr4rz5aj6k
#C b2eik3ain4art5aenr6eiks02e3iqr4rz5aj6k/C1: 118042 soups completed (0.001 soups/second current, 34.018 overall).
#C b2eik3ain4art5aenr6eiks02e3iqr4rz5aj6k/C1: 118043 soups completed (0.811 soups/second current, 34.006 overall).
#C b2eik3ain4art5aenr6eiks02e3iqr4rz5aj6k/C1: 118585 soups completed (48.930 soups/second current, 34.053 overall).
x = 16, y = 16, rule = B2eik3ain4art5aenr6eik/S02e3iqr4rz5aj6k
o2b2o2b5o2bo$3b3obo2b2o$3o4bo2b2ob2o$2b7obobo$4b4o3bob3o$obo2bo5bobobo
$b5obo2b2o2b2o$2bob4obo4bo$4ob3obo2b3o$ob4ob2ob2o2bo$bo6b2o3bobo$obo2b
6obob2o$2bob4o2b2obobo$2b2o3b3o2bobo$2obobob2ob2o3bo$ob3obobo6bo!
EDIT: apparently it's stuck, and slowly consumes memory for an unknown reason (currently ~900 Mb). Most likely will have to be interrupted.

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[...]
b2eik3ain4art5aenr6eiks02e3iqr4rz5aj6k/C1: 158273 soups completed (48.939 soups/second current, 35.815 overall).
b2eik3ain4art5aenr6eiks02e3iqr4rz5aj6k/C1: 158886 soups completed (53.781 soups/second current, 35.861 overall).
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I ran into a problem when trying to open Golly on Ubuntu 24.04. I downloaded the "tarball" source code, then uncompressed it. When trying to open Golly, nothing happened. Then, when trying to open it with the terminal, I got this error:

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./golly: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL2-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

I tried installing Python, but then I learned that Python is already packaged with Linux distributions, so Golly should work as-is. I would like to know how to fix this error.

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TigerCub414 wrote: March 15th, 2025, 4:35 pm I ran into a problem when trying to open Golly on Ubuntu 24.04. I downloaded the "tarball" source code, then uncompressed it. [...]
It sounds possible that you downloaded "golly-4.3-src.tar.gz" (the source code) instead of "golly-4.3-gtk-64bit.tar.gz" (the compiled program). In that case, try downloading the latter, does it work? https://sourceforge.net/projects/golly/ ... golly-4.3/

Otherwise, there might be some incompatibility in newer versions? I'm using Golly on Ubuntu 22.04 without significant issues.
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Thank you, I did download golly-4.3-gtk-64bit.tar.gz, and I fixed the error by installing the missing library with this command:

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sudo apt-get install libsdl2-2.0-0
sudo apt-get install libcanberra-gtk-module
After that, Golly was running normally.

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I get the following error when trying to apgsearch G1:

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nvcc fatal   : Failed to preprocess host compiler properties.
I am using Cygwin on Windows 10, and other symmetries and rules work just fine.
What could the problem be, and how can I fix it?
EDIT: 'Other symmetries' refers to non-GPU symmetries. I was trying to show that the problem was unique to GPU symmetries.
EDIT 2: I fixed the problem on 26/3 after switching to WSL. :)
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PK22 wrote: March 23rd, 2025, 8:46 am [...] and other symmetries and rules work just fine. [...]
I cannot answer the question (I'm not using either Windows or GPU searching), but from what I understand by reading the section apgsearch#GPU_searching, it could help to clarify whether "other symmetries ... work just fine" means that you can search and submit to (at least some of) Catagolue censuses G... or H... other than G1, or instead that means that you can only search and submit to Catagolue censuses C... and D...
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