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Posted: **November 20th, 2024, 10:47 am**

The goal of the game is to try to add patterns such that they help destroy the ash left behind by the glider collision.
I'll start:

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x = 74, y = 76, rule = B3/S23
b2o$o2bo$b2o71$72b2o$71b2o$73bo!

EDIT: An example move:

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x = 74, y = 84, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$3b2o7$b2o$o2bo$b2o71$72b2o$71b2o$73bo!

PLACEMENT:
Do not remove the initial glider or any patterns that already exist. You are only allowed to add still lives or oscillators; no spaceships are allowed in the initial pattern. You can add as many patterns as you need per turn, so you can add seeds for any spaceship.

SCORING:
The score is equal to the pattern's maximum population divided by the number of initial still lives/oscillators. A game is completed once you have a diehard pattern.

Example of a completed game that scores 11:

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x = 51, y = 42, rule = B3/S23
18bo$17bobo$17b2o17$25b2o$25b2o7b2o$33bo2bo$34bobo$35bo$bo15bo$obo14b
o$b2o14bo10$48b2o$48bobo$48bo$23b2o$22bobo$23bo!

Posted: **November 20th, 2024, 3:55 pm**

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x = 78, y = 76, rule = B3/S23
2o3b2o$2o2bo2bo$5b2o71$76b2o$75b2o$77bo!

exploitable large spark at top

Posted: **November 20th, 2024, 6:29 pm**

R2INT wrote: November 20th, 2024, 10:47 amSCORING:

Is the score equal to (maximum population over the entire evolution) divided by (the number of stationary objects in the initial generation)?
By "diehard pattern", you mean any pattern that eventually dies out, regardless of how long-lived or scattered it is? (Normally, diehards are supposed to be compact and long-lived.)
Higher score is better or lower score is better?

Posted: **November 20th, 2024, 6:45 pm**

confocaloid wrote: November 20th, 2024, 6:29 pm
R2INT wrote: November 20th, 2024, 10:47 amSCORING:

Is the score equal to (maximum population over the entire evolution) divided by (the number of stationary objects in the initial generation)?

By "diehard pattern", you mean any pattern that eventually dies out, regardless of how long-lived or scattered it is? (Normally, diehards are supposed to be compact and long-lived.)

Higher score is better or lower score is better?

The scoring statistics are correct. By "diehard pattern" I mean any pattern that dies out. Higher-scoring patterns are better.

My move:

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x = 102, y = 104, rule = B3/S23
25bo$24bobo$25b2o15$b2o$obo24b2o$bo24bo2bo$26bo2bo$27b2o7$24b2o3b2o$24b
2o2bo2bo$29b2o11$17b2o$17bobo$18bo58$100b2o$99b2o$101bo!

We're on track to get a score of 16+ if we are careful about how we control the chaos.

Posted: **November 20th, 2024, 9:24 pm**

Current score (60 = 420/7) if I understand correctly:

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x = 387, y = 299, rule = B3/S23
300b2o$299bobo$298bo$297bo$296bo$295bo14bo$294bo14bobo$293bo16b2o$292b
o$291bo$290bo$289bo$288bo$287bo$286bo$285bo$284bo$283bo$282bo$281bo$
280bo$279bo$278bo7b2o$277bo7bobo24b2o$276bo9bo24bo2bo$275bo35bo2bo$
274bo37b2o$273bo$272bo$271bo$270bo$269bo$268bo$267bo41b2o3b2o$266bo42b
2o2bo2bo$265bo48b2o$264bo$263bo$262bo$261bo$260bo$259bo$258bo$257bo$
256bo$255bo$254bo47b2o$253bo48bobo$252bo50bo$251bo$250bo$249bo$248bo$
247bo$246bo$245bo$244bo$243bo$242bo$241bo$240bo$239bo$238bo$237bo$236b
o$235bo$234bo$233bo$232bo$231bo$230bo$229bo$228bo$227bo$226bo$225bo$
224bo$223bo$222bo$221bo$220bo$219bo$218bo$217bo$216bo$215bo$214bo$213b
o$212bo$211bo$210bo$209bo$208bo$207bo$206bo$205bo$204bo$203bo$202bo$
201bo$200bo$199bo$198bo$197bo$196bo$195bo$194bo190b2o$193bo190b2o$192b
o193bo$191bo$190bo$189bo$188bo$187bo$186bo$185bo$184bo$183bo$182bo$
181bo$180bo$179bo$178bo$177bo$176bo$175bo$174bo$173bo$172bo$171bo$170b
o$169bo$168bo$167bo$166bo$165bo$164bo$163bo$162bo$161bo$160bo$159bo$
158bo$157bo$156bo$155bo$154bo$153bo$152bo$151bo$150bo$149bo$148bo$147b
o$146bo$145bo$144bo$143bo$142bo$141bo$140bo$139bo$138bo$137bo$136bo$
135bo$134bo$133bo$132bo$131bo$130bo$129bo$128bo$127bo$126bo$125bo$124b
o$123bo$122bo$121bo$120bo$119bo$118bo$117bo$116bo$115bo$114bo$113bo$
112bo$111bo$110bo$109bo$108bo$107bo$106bo$105bo$104bo$103bo$102bo$101b
o$100bo$99bo$98bo$97bo$96bo$95bo$94bo$93bo$92bo$91bo$90bo$89bo$88bo$
87bo$86bo$85bo$84bo$83bo$82bo$81bo$80bo$79bo$78bo$77bo$76bo$75bo$74bo$
73bo$72bo$71bo$70bo$69bo$68bo$67bo$66bo$65bo$64bo$63bo$62bo$61bo$60bo$
59bo$58bo$57bo$56bo$55bo$54bo$53bo$52bo$51bo$50bo$49bo$48bo$47bo$46bo$
45bo$44bo$43bo$42bo$41bo$40bo$39bo$38bo$37bo$36bo$35bo$34bo$33bo$32bo$
31bo$30bo$29bo$28bo$27bo$26bo$25bo$24bo$23bo$22bo$21bo$20bo$19bo$18bo$
17bo$16bo$15bo$14bo$13bo$12bo$11bo$10bo$9bo$8bo$7bo$6bo$2b2obo$bob2o$b
o$2o!

Posted: **November 21st, 2024, 1:08 am**

something

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x = 389, y = 522, rule = B3/S23
302b2o$301bobo$300bo$299bo$298bo$297bo14bo$296bo14bobo$295bo16b2o$294b
o$293bo$292bo$291bo$290bo$289bo$288bo$287bo$286bo$285bo$284bo$283bo$282b
o$281bo$280bo7b2o$279bo7bobo24b2o$278bo9bo24bo2bo$277bo35bo2bo$276bo37b
2o$275bo$274bo$273bo$272bo$271bo$270bo$269bo41b2o3b2o$268bo42b2o2bo2b
o$267bo48b2o$266bo$265bo$264bo$263bo$262bo$261bo$260bo$259bo$258bo$257b
o$256bo47b2o$255bo48bobo$254bo50bo$253bo$252bo$251bo$250bo$249bo$248b
o$247bo$246bo$245bo$244bo$243bo$242bo$241bo$240bo$239bo$238bo$237bo$236b
o$235bo$234bo$233bo$232bo$231bo$230bo$229bo$228bo$227bo$226bo$225bo$224b
o$223bo$222bo$221bo$220bo$219bo$218bo$217bo$216bo$215bo$214bo$213bo$212b
o$211bo$210bo$209bo$208bo$207bo$206bo$205bo$204bo$203bo$202bo$201bo$200b
o$199bo$198bo$197bo$196bo190b2o$195bo190b2o$194bo193bo$193bo$192bo$191b
o$190bo$189bo$188bo$187bo$186bo$185bo$184bo$183bo$182bo$181bo$180bo$179b
o$178bo$177bo$176bo$175bo$174bo$173bo$172bo$171bo$170bo$169bo$168bo$167b
o$166bo$165bo$164bo$163bo$162bo$161bo$160bo$159bo$158bo$157bo$156bo$155b
o$154bo$153bo$152bo$151bo$150bo$149bo$148bo$147bo$146bo$145bo$144bo$143b
o$142bo$141bo$140bo$139bo$138bo$137bo$136bo$135bo$134bo$133bo$132bo$131b
o$130bo$129bo$128bo$127bo$126bo$125bo$124bo$123bo$122bo$121bo$120bo$119b
o$118bo$117bo$116bo$115bo$114bo$113bo$112bo$111bo$110bo$109bo$108bo$107b
o$106bo$105bo$104bo$103bo$102bo$101bo$100bo$99bo$98bo$97bo$96bo$95bo$
94bo$93bo$92bo$91bo$90bo$89bo$88bo$87bo$86bo$85bo$84bo$83bo$82bo$81bo
$80bo$79bo$78bo$77bo$76bo$75bo$74bo$73bo$72bo$71bo$70bo$69bo$68bo$67b
o$66bo$65bo$64bo$63bo$62bo$61bo$60bo$59bo$58bo$57bo$56bo$55bo$54bo$53b
o$52bo$51bo$50bo$49bo$48bo$47bo$46bo$45bo$44bo$43bo$42bo$41bo$40bo$39b
o$38bo$37bo$36bo$35bo$34bo$33bo$32bo$31bo$30bo$29bo$28bo$27bo$26bo$25b
o$24bo$23bo$22bo$21bo$20bo$19bo$18bo$17bo$16bo$15bo$14bo$13bo$12bo$11b
o$10bo$9bo$8bo$4b2obo$3bob2o$3bo$2b2o2$2b2o$bo2bo$b4o2$b4o$o4bo$b4o2$
b4o$o4bo$b4o2$b4o$o4bo$b4o2$b4o$o4bo$b4o2$b4o$o4bo$b4o2$b4o$o4bo$b4o2$
b4o$o4bo$b4o2$b4o$o4bo$b4o2$b4o$o4bo$b4o2$b4o$o4bo$b4o2$b4o$o4bo$b4o2$
b4o$o4bo$b4o2$b4o$o4bo$b4o2$b4o$o4bo$b4o2$b4o$o4bo$b4o2$b4o$o4bo$b4o2$
b4o$o4bo$b4o2$b4o$o4bo$b4o2$b4o$o4bo$b4o2$b4o$o4bo$b4o2$b4o$o4bo$b4o2$
b4o$o4bo$b4o2$b4o$o4bo$b4o2$b4o$o4bo$b4o2$b4o$o4bo$b4o2$b4o$o4bo$b4o2$
b4o$o4bo$b4o2$b4o$o4bo$b4o2$b4o$o4bo$b4o2$b4o$o4bo$b4o2$b4o$o4bo$b4o$
11bo$b4o4b3o$o4bo2bo$b4o4b3o$11bo$b4o$o4bo$b4o2$b4o$o4bo$b4o2$b4o$o4b
o$b4o2$b4o$o4bo$b4o2$b4o$o4bo$b4o2$b4o$o4bo$b4o2$b4o$o4bo30b2o$b4o31b
obo$38bo4b2o$b4o29b4ob2o2bo2bo$o4bo28bo2bo3bobob2o$b4o32bobobobo$38b2o
bobo$b4o37bo$o4bo$b4o23b2o$29bo8bo$b4o24bobo5b2o$o4bo24b2o$b4o39bo$45b
o$b4o38b3o$o4bo$b4o29bo$34b2o$b4o28bobo4b2o22bo$o4bo34bo21b3o$b4o36b3o
17bo$43bo17b2o$b4o$o4bo48bo$b4o50b2o12b2o$54b2o14bo$b4o7b2o56bob2o$o4b
o7bo9b2o37bo5b3o2bo$b4o6bo10bobo37b2o3bo3b2o$11b5o8bo5b2o35b2obo$b4o11b
o13bo22b2o15bo$o4bo7b3o12bobo21bobo12b3o$b4o7bo15b2o22bo13bo$12bob2o35b
2o5bo8b5o$b4o5b2o3bo3b2o37bobo10bo$bo2bo4bo2b3o5bo37b2o9bo$9b2obo56b2o
$12bo14b2o$12b2o12b2o$28bo2$20b2o17bo$21bo17b3o$18b3o21bo$18bo22b2o4b
obo$47b2o$48bo2$37b3o$37bo$38bo$51b2o$44b2o5bobo$44bo8bo$53b2o2$40bo$
39bobob2o$39bobobobo$36b2obobo3bo2bo$36bo2bo2b2ob4o$38b2o4bo$44bobo$45b
2o!

Posted: **November 21st, 2024, 1:16 am**

R2INT wrote: November 20th, 2024, 10:47 am The goal of the game is to try to add patterns such that they help destroy the ash left behind by the glider collision. [...]

Unfortunately, there appears to be no sufficient protection against the game devolving into posting large randomish RLEs (instead of "help destroy the ash").

Posted: **November 21st, 2024, 1:23 am**

From R2INT's move:

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x = 102, y = 104, rule = B3/S23
25bo$24bobo$25b2o11$35b2o$34bo2bo$34bo2bo$35b2o$b2o$obo24b2o$bo24bo2b
o$26bo2bo$27b2o7$24b2o3b2o$24b2o2bo2bo$29b2o11$17b2o$17bobo$18bo58$100b
2o$99b2o$101bo!

Posted: **November 21st, 2024, 10:59 am**

confocaloid wrote: November 21st, 2024, 1:16 am
R2INT wrote: November 20th, 2024, 10:47 am The goal of the game is to try to add patterns such that they help destroy the ash left behind by the glider collision. [...]
Unfortunately, there appears to be no sufficient protection against the game devolving into posting large randomish RLEs (instead of "help destroy the ash").

New rule: All patterns that are added must be listed as naturally occurring (not seminatural) on Catagolue, otherwise they will count as the number of minimum cells against the score, as opposed to one point. So, the 'exploit' pattern would score up to (1232)/(1025) = 1.2020, while the worst possible score would be 1.0000. (EDIT: fixed score display to account for a hat I did not see)

Also, unused patterns (patterns that are not interacted with by the collision) can be destroyed to make room for useful patterns.

I remove two useless boats and add a blinker:

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x = 85, y = 91, rule = B3/S23
18b2o$17bo2bo$17bo2bo$18b2o2$10b2o$9bo2bo$9bo2bo$10b2o2$27b3o5$7b2o3b
2o$7b2o2bo2bo$12b2o11$2o$obo$bo58$83b2o$82b2o$84bo!

4 objects left. The current maxpop is 184.

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