fch wrote:Here are the results of my life project I started 2 years ago. The original endgoal was to create a self replicating structure but since someone else was ahead of me I did not complete it (yet). I wanted to use an absolute minimum of structures. So I was interested if series of gliders fired at each other from 2 opposite guns (normal 30 generation) could be used for construction. It can as the attachment demonstrates.
Wow! Sorry about the slow response; this is an ambitious research project! For anyone interested in the detailed workings of the new construction method, I've extracted some of the colliding-p30-glider-stream recipes from the large pattern in the original link. The output spaceships and gliders are used in various combinations to produce the sample construction.
In case anyone has trouble running the original large pattern, its end result is the incremental construction of two synchronized p30 guns identical to (but very far away from) the pairs of guns in the original pattern. The pattern is much too large to run efficiently in QuickLife, so be sure to switch over to HashLife and move the speed up to 8^5 or so before you run it.
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#C 61 gliders in two opposing intermittent p30 streams produce an LWSS
x = 1324, y = 1325, rule = B3/S23
1323bo$1321b2o$1322b2o6$1314bobo$1314b2o$1315bo20$1293bo$1291b2o$1292b
2o36$1254bobo$1254b2o$1255bo5$1248bo$1246b2o$1247b2o13$1233bo$1231b2o$
1232b2o28$1203bo$1201b2o$1202b2o13$1188bo$1186b2o$1187b2o6$1179bobo$
1179b2o$1180bo28$1149bobo$1149b2o$1150bo43$1104bobo$1104b2o$1105bo50$
1053bo$1051b2o$1052b2o6$1044bobo$1044b2o$1045bo20$1023bo$1021b2o$1022b
2o43$978bo$976b2o$977b2o6$969bobo$969b2o$970bo13$954bobo$954b2o$955bo
5$948bo$946b2o$947b2o6$939bobo$939b2o$940bo5$933bo$931b2o$932b2o6$924b
obo$924b2o$925bo5$918bo$916b2o$917b2o6$909bobo$909b2o$910bo5$903bo$
901b2o$902b2o13$888bo$886b2o$887b2o6$879bobo$879b2o$880bo58$819bobo$
819b2o$820bo28$789bobo$789b2o$790bo20$768bo$766b2o$767b2o13$753bo$751b
2o$752b2o13$738bo$736b2o$737b2o105$631b2o$630bobo$632bo21$608b3o$610bo
$609bo5$601b2o$600bobo$602bo13$586b2o$585bobo$587bo13$571b2o$570bobo$
572bo28$541b2o$540bobo$542bo21$518b3o$520bo$519bo5$511b2o$510bobo$512b
o6$503b3o$505bo$504bo20$481b2o$480bobo$482bo6$473b3o$475bo$474bo80$
391b2o$390bobo$392bo6$383b3o$385bo$384bo5$376b2o$375bobo$377bo13$361b
2o$360bobo$362bo21$338b3o$340bo$339bo13$323b3o$325bo$324bo13$308b3o$
310bo$309bo20$286b2o$285bobo$287bo21$263b3o$265bo$264bo50$211b2o$210bo
bo$212bo6$203b3o$205bo$204bo35$166b2o$165bobo$167bo58$106b2o$105bobo$
107bo21$83b3o$85bo$84bo5$76b2o$75bobo$77bo21$53b3o$55bo$54bo20$31b2o$
30bobo$32bo6$23b3o$25bo$24bo20$b2o$obo$2bo!
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#C 247 gliders produce a single 90-degree glider output on a particular
#C lane, with an exactly-timed delay relative to the final input glider.
x = 10431, y = 10432, rule = B3/S23
10428bo$10428bobo$10428b2o1220$9206bo$9205bo$9205b3o13$9191bo$9190bo$
9190b3o36$9153bo$9153bobo$9153b2o13$9138bo$9138bobo$9138b2o13$9123bo$
9123bobo$9123b2o5$9116bo$9115bo$9115b3o6$9108bo$9108bobo$9108b2o5$
9101bo$9100bo$9100b3o6$9093bo$9093bobo$9093b2o13$9078bo$9078bobo$9078b
2o28$9048bo$9048bobo$9048b2o13$9033bo$9033bobo$9033b2o620$8411bo$8410b
o$8410b3o6$8403bo$8403bobo$8403b2o5$8396bo$8395bo$8395b3o21$8373bo$
8373bobo$8373b2o5$8366bo$8365bo$8365b3o21$8343bo$8343bobo$8343b2o35$
8306bo$8305bo$8305b3o13$8291bo$8290bo$8290b3o28$8261bo$8260bo$8260b3o
21$8238bo$8238bobo$8238b2o5$8231bo$8230bo$8230b3o6$8223bo$8223bobo$
8223b2o5$8216bo$8215bo$8215b3o6$8208bo$8208bobo$8208b2o5$8201bo$8200bo
$8200b3o73$8435bo$8434bo$8434b3o21$8412bo$8412bobo$8412b2o13$8397bo$
8397bobo$8397b2o5$8390bo$8389bo$8389b3o6$8382bo$8382bobo$8382b2o5$
8375bo$8374bo$8374b3o13$8360bo$8359bo$8359b3o6$8352bo$8352bobo$8352b2o
13$8337bo$8337bobo$8337b2o43$8292bo$8292bobo$8292b2o13$8277bo$8277bobo
$8277b2o13$8262bo$8262bobo$8262b2o5$8255bo$8254bo$8254b3o13$8240bo$
8239bo$8239b3o6$8232bo$8232bobo$8232b2o635$7595bo$7594bo$7594b3o6$
7587bo$7587bobo$7587b2o13$7572bo$7572bobo$7572b2o5$7565bo$7564bo$7564b
3o21$7542bo$7542bobo$7542b2o5$7535bo$7534bo$7534b3o6$7527bo$7527bobo$
7527b2o28$7497bo$7497bobo$7497b2o5$7490bo$7489bo$7489b3o6$7482bo$7482b
obo$7482b2o13$7467bo$7467bobo$7467b2o5$7460bo$7459bo$7459b3o13$7136bo$
7135bo$7135b3o6$7128bo308bo$7128bobo306bobo$7128b2o307b2o5$7121bo$
7120bo$7120b3o6$7113bo$7113bobo$7113b2o13$7407bo$7407bobo$7407b2o5$
7091bo$7090bo$7090b3o6$7083bo308bo$7083bobo306bobo$7083b2o307b2o20$
7061bo$7060bo$7060b3o6$7053bo$7053bobo$7053b2o5$7046bo$7045bo$7045b3o
21$7023bo$7023bobo$7023b2o20$7001bo$7000bo$7000b3o36$6963bo$6963bobo$
6963b2o13$6948bo$6948bobo$6948b2o920$6335bo$6334bo$6334b3o6$6018bo$
6018bobo$6018b2o5$6320bo$6319bo$6319b3o6$6312bo$6312bobo$6312b2o5$
5996bo308bo$5995bo308bo$5995b3o306b3o6$5988bo$5988bobo$5988b2o13$5973b
o308bo$5973bobo306bobo$5973b2o307b2o5$5966bo308bo$5965bo308bo$5965b3o
306b3o6$5958bo308bo$5958bobo306bobo$5958b2o307b2o5$6260bo$6259bo$6259b
3o6$6252bo$6252bobo$6252b2o20$6230bo$6229bo$6229b3o21$5898bo308bo$
5898bobo306bobo$5898b2o307b2o5$5891bo308bo$5890bo308bo$5890b3o306b3o
13$5876bo$5875bo$5875b3o6$5868bo$5868bobo$5868b2o28$6147bo$6147bobo$
6147b2o5$6140bo$6139bo$6139b3o6$6132bo$6132bobo$6132b2o830$4991bo$
4990bo$4990b3o6$4983bo$4983bobo$4983b2o13$4968bo$4968bobo$4968b2o5$
4961bo$4960bo$4960b3o21$4938bo$4938bobo$4938b2o5$4931bo$4930bo$4930b3o
6$4923bo$4923bobo$4923b2o5$5225bo$5224bo$5224b3o6$4908bo$4908bobo$
4908b2o5$5210bo$5209bo$5209b3o6$4893bo$4893bobo$4893b2o20$4871bo$4870b
o$4870b3o6$4863bo$4863bobo$4863b2o5$4856bo$4855bo$4855b3o13$5150bo$
5149bo$5149b3o6$4833bo$4833bobo$4833b2o5$4826bo308bo$4825bo308bo$4825b
3o306b3o6$4818bo$4818bobo$4818b2o5$5120bo$5119bo$5119b3o6$5112bo$5112b
obo$5112b2o5$5105bo$5104bo$5104b3o13$5090bo$5089bo$5089b3o6$5082bo$
5082bobo$5082b2o13$5067bo$5067bobo$5067b2o759$3998bo$3998b2o$3997bobo
13$3983bo$3983b2o$3982bobo13$3968bo$3968b2o$3967bobo6$3960b2o$3961b2o$
3960bo13$3945b2o$3946b2o$3945bo5$3938bo$3938b2o$3937bobo6$3930b2o$
3931b2o$3930bo5$3923bo$3923b2o$3922bobo13$3908bo$3908b2o$3907bobo43$
3863bo$3863b2o$3862bobo13$4157bo$4157b2o$4156bobo6$3840b2o$3841b2o$
3840bo5$3833bo308bo$3833b2o307b2o$3832bobo306bobo6$3825b2o307b2o$3826b
2o307b2o$3825bo308bo5$3818bo$3818b2o$3817bobo13$4112bo$4112b2o$4111bob
o28$4082bo$4082b2o$4081bobo6$4074b2o$4075b2o$4074bo5$4067bo$4067b2o$
4066bobo6$4059b2o$4060b2o$4059bo13$4044b2o$4045b2o$4044bo28$4014b2o$
4015b2o$4014bo5$4007bo$4007b2o$4006bobo6$3999b2o$4000b2o$3999bo5$3992b
o$3992b2o$3991bobo13$3977bo$3977b2o$3976bobo6$3969b2o$3970b2o$3969bo
628$3030b2o$3031b2o$3030bo20$3008bo$3008b2o$3007bobo6$3000b2o$3001b2o$
3000bo13$2985b2o$2986b2o$2985bo13$2970b2o$2971b2o$2970bo13$2955b2o$
2956b2o$2955bo5$2948bo$2948b2o$2947bobo6$2940b2o$2941b2o$2940bo5$2933b
o$2933b2o$2932bobo28$2903bo$2903b2o$2902bobo6$2895b2o307b2o$2896b2o
307b2o$2895bo308bo5$3197bo$3197b2o$3196bobo6$3189b2o$3190b2o$3189bo5$
2873bo308bo$2873b2o307b2o$2872bobo306bobo6$2865b2o307b2o$2866b2o307b2o
$2865bo308bo13$2850b2o307b2o$2851b2o307b2o$2850bo308bo5$3152bo$3152b2o
$3151bobo6$3144b2o$3145b2o$3144bo13$3129b2o$3130b2o$3129bo5$3122bo$
3122b2o$3121bobo6$3114b2o$3115b2o$3114bo13$3099b2o$3100b2o$3099bo5$
3092bo$3092b2o$3091bobo21$3069b2o$3070b2o$3069bo13$3054b2o$3055b2o$
3054bo5$3047bo$3047b2o$3046bobo28$3017bo$3017b2o$3016bobo6$3009b2o$
3010b2o$3009bo620$2078bo$2078b2o$2077bobo36$2040b2o$2041b2o$2040bo5$
2033bo$2033b2o$2032bobo6$2025b2o$2026b2o$2025bo43$1980b2o$1981b2o$
1980bo13$1965b2o$1966b2o$1965bo13$1950b2o$1951b2o$1950bo5$1943bo$1943b
2o$1942bobo6$2244b2o$2245b2o$2244bo5$2237bo$2237b2o$2236bobo6$1920b2o$
1921b2o$1920bo5$1913bo308bo$1913b2o307b2o$1912bobo306bobo6$1905b2o$
1906b2o$1905bo5$1898bo$1898b2o$1897bobo6$1890b2o307b2o$1891b2o307b2o$
1890bo308bo13$2184b2o$2185b2o$2184bo5$2177bo$2177b2o$2176bobo51$2124b
2o$2125b2o$2124bo28$2094b2o$2095b2o$2094bo13$2079b2o$2080b2o$2079bo5$
2072bo$2072b2o$2071bobo6$2064b2o$2065b2o$2064bo5$2057bo$2057b2o$2056bo
bo6$2049b2o$2050b2o$2049bo613$1125b2o$1126b2o$1125bo5$1118bo$1118b2o$
1117bobo13$1103bo$1103b2o$1102bobo51$1050b2o$1051b2o$1050bo20$1028bo$
1028b2o$1027bobo6$1020b2o$1021b2o$1020bo5$1013bo$1013b2o$1012bobo6$
1005b2o$1006b2o$1005bo5$998bo$998b2o$997bobo6$990b2o$991b2o$990bo13$
975b2o307b2o$976b2o307b2o$975bo308bo5$1277bo$1277b2o$1276bobo6$1269b2o
$1270b2o$1269bo5$1262bo$1262b2o$1261bobo6$945b2o307b2o$946b2o307b2o$
945bo308bo13$930b2o$931b2o$930bo28$1209b2o$1210b2o$1209bo13$1194b2o$
1195b2o$1194bo20$1172bo$1172b2o$1171bobo6$1164b2o$1165b2o$1164bo43$
1119b2o$1120b2o$1119bo5$1112bo$1112b2o$1111bobo6$1104b2o$1105b2o$1104b
o5$1097bo$1097b2o$1096bobo6$1089b2o$1090b2o$1089bo605$173bo$173b2o$
172bobo28$143bo$143b2o$142bobo13$128bo$128b2o$127bobo6$120b2o$121b2o$
120bo5$113bo$113b2o$112bobo36$75b2o$76b2o$75bo13$60b2o$61b2o$60bo5$53b
o$53b2o$52bobo6$45b2o$46b2o$45bo20$23bo$23b2o$22bobo6$15b2o$16b2o$15bo
13$2o$b2o$o!
The other constraints are totally different, but the single-file glider salvos are reminiscent of Paul Chapman's work last year designing a better construction arm for next-generation Geminoid spaceships. It turned out that an elbow block can be manipulated successfully by gliders coming in on just one lane:
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#C pairs of synchronized gliders on a single lane produce all
#C necessary operations on a construction-arm elbow block:
#C several INCs and DECs, and output gliders of both colors.
x = 2149, y = 247, rule = LifeHistory
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fch wrote:Also my ideas of building a replicator this way would result in a replicator much bigger than the one found already. On the other hand It would result in a selfreplicator filling the univerce at a speed of c/16.
If you're referring to Andrew Wade's Gemini spaceship, I don't think the size comparison is fair -- Geminoids are self-constructing oblique spaceships, but not technically replicators because even if you disable the destructor arm, there's never more than one active copy of the original pattern.
It looks as if you're far enough along in your research that you might yet complete a true replicator pattern before anyone manages to modify the Gemini design to produce one (full disclosure: I'm
working on this, or would be if I had more spare time!).
A replicator following along the general lines of the Gemini's construction methods will likely be quite a bit smaller than one based on the p30 reactions shown here -- but with Golly to run the simulation, an order of magnitude or three doesn't really mean very much any more! Reaching the goal _first_ (of constructing a working Conway's Life replicator, where the number of copies of the original pattern increases without bounds) seems like the important thing.
fch wrote:
Multiple self made programs were used to create this. One for finding usefull patterns from collisions. One for creating timed glider path. and a construction application.
Do you have a stamp collection of the full set of "useful patterns" that your search program has found? Are the path calculator and construction app in a form that someone else might be able to figure out how to use?
Keep the cheer,
DaveG