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Counterfeit Patterns

Posted: May 29th, 2022, 10:40 pm
by HotWheels9232
For example, p6 toad! And the normal spinning glider

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x = 4, y = 2, rule = B3/S24ain7
3o$b3o!

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B358/S2ain4578
obo$2o$bo!

Re: Counterfeit Patterns

Posted: May 29th, 2022, 11:10 pm
by Citation needed
It also works in B3/S24.

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B3/S24
obo$2o$bo!
This is a Babbling brook glider.

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = b2e3-is2e3
bo$2bo$3o!

Re: Counterfeit Patterns

Posted: May 30th, 2022, 6:21 pm
by hotcrystal0
Traffic light but it's not traffic light?

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2i3-cnry/S023-iy5y
bo$3o$bo!

Re: Counterfeit Patterns

Posted: May 30th, 2022, 7:30 pm
by EvinZL
Better fake tl

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x = 3, y = 2, rule = B3-c5ak8/S23
bo$3o!
EDIT: p264 gun in the same rule

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x = 33, y = 36, rule = B3-c5ak8/S23
19b2o$19b2o4$9b2o$o8b2o$2o$2o$bo2$9b3o$9bobo14b2o$9bobo14b2o9$2b2o27b
2o$2b2o27b2o6$19b2o$19b2o4$9bo$9b2o!
EDIT2: x4 period multiplication:

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x = 92, y = 51, rule = B3-c5ak8/S23
78b2o$78b2o4$68b2o$59b2o7b2o$58bo$61bo$59b2o$66bo5bo$67bo3bo$67b2ob2o
13b2o$63bob3o3b3obo9b2o$65b3o3b3o$22b2o$22b2o4$12b2o$12b2o$61b2o27b2o$
61b2o27b2o4$2o27b2o$2o27b2o$78b2o$78b2o4$68b2o$68b2o$19b2o3b2o26b2o$5b
2o13b2ob2o27bo$5b2o11b3o3b3o26b3o$19bo5bo29bo2$31b2o$30bo$33bo$22b2o7b
2o$22b2o4$12b2o$12b2o!
and p20 tl hassler

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x = 21, y = 27, rule = B3-c5ak8/S23
2b2o4b2o$2bobo2bobo$4bo2bo$3b2o2b2o$2b3o2b3o$4bo2bo$13b2o$13b2o$19b2o$
19bo$17bobo$17b2o$13bo$12b2o$13bo$2b2o$bobo$bo$2o$6b2o$6b2o$13bo2bo$
11b3o2b3o$12b2o2b2o$13bo2bo$11bobo2bobo$11b2o4b2o!

Re: Counterfeit Patterns

Posted: May 31st, 2022, 10:00 pm
by hotcrystal0
EvinZL wrote: May 30th, 2022, 7:30 pm Better fake tl

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x = 3, y = 2, rule = B3-c5ak8/S23
bo$3o!
EDIT: p264 gun in the same rule

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x = 33, y = 36, rule = B3-c5ak8/S23
19b2o$19b2o4$9b2o$o8b2o$2o$2o$bo2$9b3o$9bobo14b2o$9bobo14b2o9$2b2o27b
2o$2b2o27b2o6$19b2o$19b2o4$9bo$9b2o!
EDIT2: x4 period multiplication:

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x = 92, y = 51, rule = B3-c5ak8/S23
78b2o$78b2o4$68b2o$59b2o7b2o$58bo$61bo$59b2o$66bo5bo$67bo3bo$67b2ob2o
13b2o$63bob3o3b3obo9b2o$65b3o3b3o$22b2o$22b2o4$12b2o$12b2o$61b2o27b2o$
61b2o27b2o4$2o27b2o$2o27b2o$78b2o$78b2o4$68b2o$68b2o$19b2o3b2o26b2o$5b
2o13b2ob2o27bo$5b2o11b3o3b3o26b3o$19bo5bo29bo2$31b2o$30bo$33bo$22b2o7b
2o$22b2o4$12b2o$12b2o!
and p20 tl hassler

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x = 21, y = 27, rule = B3-c5ak8/S23
2b2o4b2o$2bobo2bobo$4bo2bo$3b2o2b2o$2b3o2b3o$4bo2bo$13b2o$13b2o$19b2o$
19bo$17bobo$17b2o$13bo$12b2o$13bo$2b2o$bobo$bo$2o$6b2o$6b2o$13bo2bo$
11b3o2b3o$12b2o2b2o$13bo2bo$11bobo2bobo$11b2o4b2o!
P14

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x = 23, y = 23, rule = B3-c5ak6e8/S23
6bo$6b3o$9bo$8b2o3$21b2o$21bo$19bobo$11bo7b2o$10bobo$9bo3bo$10bobo$2b
2o7bo$bobo$bo$2o3$13b2o$13bo$14b3o$16bo!

Re: Counterfeit Patterns

Posted: June 1st, 2022, 11:00 pm
by LLAMASKYWALKER
hotcrystal0 wrote: May 31st, 2022, 10:00 pm
EvinZL wrote: May 30th, 2022, 7:30 pm Better fake tl

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x = 3, y = 2, rule = B3-c5ak8/S23
bo$3o!
EDIT: p264 gun in the same rule

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x = 33, y = 36, rule = B3-c5ak8/S23
19b2o$19b2o4$9b2o$o8b2o$2o$2o$bo2$9b3o$9bobo14b2o$9bobo14b2o9$2b2o27b
2o$2b2o27b2o6$19b2o$19b2o4$9bo$9b2o!
EDIT2: x4 period multiplication:

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x = 92, y = 51, rule = B3-c5ak8/S23
78b2o$78b2o4$68b2o$59b2o7b2o$58bo$61bo$59b2o$66bo5bo$67bo3bo$67b2ob2o
13b2o$63bob3o3b3obo9b2o$65b3o3b3o$22b2o$22b2o4$12b2o$12b2o$61b2o27b2o$
61b2o27b2o4$2o27b2o$2o27b2o$78b2o$78b2o4$68b2o$68b2o$19b2o3b2o26b2o$5b
2o13b2ob2o27bo$5b2o11b3o3b3o26b3o$19bo5bo29bo2$31b2o$30bo$33bo$22b2o7b
2o$22b2o4$12b2o$12b2o!
and p20 tl hassler

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x = 21, y = 27, rule = B3-c5ak8/S23
2b2o4b2o$2bobo2bobo$4bo2bo$3b2o2b2o$2b3o2b3o$4bo2bo$13b2o$13b2o$19b2o$
19bo$17bobo$17b2o$13bo$12b2o$13bo$2b2o$bobo$bo$2o$6b2o$6b2o$13bo2bo$
11b3o2b3o$12b2o2b2o$13bo2bo$11bobo2bobo$11b2o4b2o!
P14

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x = 23, y = 23, rule = B3-c5ak6e8/S23
6bo$6b3o$9bo$8b2o3$21b2o$21bo$19bobo$11bo7b2o$10bobo$9bo3bo$10bobo$2b
2o7bo$bobo$bo$2o3$13b2o$13bo$14b3o$16bo!
reduced:

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x = 21, y = 21, rule = B3-c5ak6e8/S23
6b2o$6bobo$7b2o4$19b2o$18bobo$10bo7b2o$9bobo$8bobobo$9bobo$b2o7bo$obo
$2o4$12b2o$12bobo$13b2o!

Re: Counterfeit Patterns

Posted: June 5th, 2022, 12:43 pm
by HotWheels9232
Pi but it is not pi?

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B3/S24ain7
3o$b2o$3o!

Re: Counterfeit Patterns

Posted: June 5th, 2022, 1:15 pm
by confocaloid
A 14c/102 piffer:

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x = 23, y = 9, rule = B3-k4e6ei/S235n6ek7c8
3o$obo$obo$20bo$19b3o$18bo3bo$20bo$19b3o$20bo!
#C [[ THEME LifeHistory ZOOM 4 TRACK 0/102 -14/102 ]]

Re: Counterfeit Patterns

Posted: June 13th, 2022, 4:49 am
by dl-rs
spinning glider

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2-ak3-i7/S1c2e3n56
bo$o$3o!

Re: Counterfeit Patterns

Posted: January 10th, 2024, 11:10 pm
by eRroR_6o6
So I was making a rule less explosive, and then I found this cursed thing:

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x = 4, y = 5, rule = B34et5-any8/S234e5ey6i
bo$3o$ob2o$b3o$b2o!

Re: Counterfeit Patterns

Posted: January 11th, 2024, 12:41 pm
by Period1GliderGun
eRroR_6o6 wrote: January 10th, 2024, 11:10 pm So I was making a rule less explosive, and then I found this cursed thing:

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x = 4, y = 5, rule = B34et5-any8/S234e5ey6i
bo$3o$ob2o$b3o$b2o!
MTFL rule:

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x = 4, y = 5, rule = B34t5ijkqr/S235y
bo$3o$ob2o$b3o$b2o!

Re: Counterfeit Patterns

Posted: January 19th, 2024, 12:40 am
by b-engine
LWSS:

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x = 5, y = 4, rule = B34-r78/S23-a4i5k
2b2o$2ob2o$4o$b2o!

Re: Counterfeit Patterns

Posted: January 20th, 2024, 10:25 am
by hotcrystal0
b-engine wrote: January 19th, 2024, 12:40 am LWSS:

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x = 5, y = 4, rule = B34-r78/S23-a4i5k
2b2o$2ob2o$4o$b2o!
That is known.

Re: Counterfeit Patterns

Posted: January 20th, 2024, 5:17 pm
by get_Snacked
hotcrystal0 wrote: January 20th, 2024, 10:25 am
b-engine wrote: January 19th, 2024, 12:40 am LWSS:

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x = 5, y = 4, rule = B34-r78/S23-a4i5k
2b2o$2ob2o$4o$b2o!
That is known.
also, that isn't exactly counterfeit - counterfeit patterns have to have a different mechanism; e.g. a change of the slope like in eRRoR_6o6's rule. for rules like that, post that in the "Rules with Mutant xWSSes" thread.

Re: Counterfeit Patterns

Posted: January 31st, 2024, 11:09 pm
by hotcrystal0
This is a totally illegal way to create a honey farm.

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x = 3, y = 4, rule = R2,C2,S2,18-35,B8,27-35,NW00010001000109090901000900090001090909010001000100
2o$obo$obo$bo!

Re: Counterfeit Patterns

Posted: May 7th, 2024, 8:40 pm
by CasperWen8805181
ripoff toad and loaf

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x = 10, y = 4, rule = B2k3-e4-ceiry/S2-ik3-a4c6c
o7bo$2o5bobo$2o4bo2bo$bo5b2o!

Re: Counterfeit Patterns

Posted: May 13th, 2024, 10:07 am
by eRroR_6o6
very illegal traffic light (i discovered this somewhere in December but I only remembered it now)

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x = 6, y = 3, rule = B34n6i/S23
2b2o$bo2bo$b3o!

Counterfeit Patterns

Posted: December 2nd, 2025, 2:08 pm
by I6_I6
This is a thread for counterfeit patterns, or patterns that work in Life but which also work in a different way in an OCA.
For example, here is a counterfeit toad, which is p4 instead of p2 like in Life:

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x = 4, y = 4, rule = B2k3aijkq/S2a
2bo$o2bo$o2bo$bo!
Please post counterfeit gliders in the counterfeit gliders thread and counterfeit XWSSes in the rules with mutant XWSSes thread.

This was the beginning of a new thread that has since been merged. --hotdogPi

Re: Counterfeit Patterns

Posted: December 2nd, 2025, 3:14 pm
by actinophrys
Some simple counterfeit clocks that keep the same time but not the same reflection.

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x=4, y=4, rule=B4/S1
bo$2b2o$2o$2bo!

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x=4, y=4, rule=B34/S
bo$2b2o$2o$2bo!

Re: Counterfeit Patterns

Posted: December 2nd, 2025, 3:42 pm
by WhiteHawk
actinophrys wrote: December 2nd, 2025, 3:14 pm Some simple counterfeit clocks that keep the same time but not the same reflection.
These are both known. please refer to the clock page for more information

Re: Counterfeit Patterns

Posted: December 2nd, 2025, 3:58 pm
by actinophrys
I didn't imagine that they weren't known, just that they belonged here. For instance right near the start the counterfeit glider thread included the well-known p4 from B368/S245. I'm sorry if I misunderstood the intent.

Re: Counterfeit Patterns

Posted: December 2nd, 2025, 9:27 pm
by hotcrystal0
There’s already a thread for this topic with the exact same title: Counterfeit Patterns

Should they be merged?

Re: Counterfeit Patterns

Posted: December 3rd, 2025, 12:51 pm
by I6_I6
hotcrystal0 wrote: December 2nd, 2025, 9:27 pm There’s already a thread for this topic with the exact same title: Counterfeit Patterns

Should they be merged?
Oh, I didn't know that.
Yes, they should be merged.

Re: Counterfeit Patterns

Posted: December 3rd, 2025, 8:54 pm
by FWKnightship
Counterfeit Octagon 2, in a rule where Lightweight emulator and Fumarole works:

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x = 29, y = 23, rule = B2n3-ky4iw5r6i/S2-n3-e8
12b2o$11bo2bo$10bo4bo$9bo6bo$9bo6bo$10bo4bo$11bo2bo$12b2o9$24b2o$2b2ob
o2bob2o10bo4bo$2bo8bo10bo4bo$3b2o4b2o11bo4bo$3o2b4o2b3o9bo2bo$o2bo6bo
2bo7bobo2bobo$b2o8b2o8b2o4b2o!

Re: Counterfeit Patterns

Posted: September 5th, 2026, 3:55 pm
by hotcrystal0
This counterfeit B2i3/S23 honeybomb:
hotcrystal0 wrote: January 26th, 2026, 3:21 pm This P20 is basically this rule's version of the B2i3/S23 honeybomb:

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x = 15, y = 15, rule = B35-e/S23
6b3o$5bo3bo$5bo3bo$5bo3bo$6b3o$b3o7b3o$o3bo5bo3bo$o3bo5bo3bo$o3bo5bo3b
o$b3o7b3o$6b3o$5bo3bo$5bo3bo$5bo3bo$6b3o!