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Make a Position Changing and Identifying Object

Posted: April 6th, 2022, 4:44 pm
by Anivec
Iv'e been wondering if an object could have the ability to change position with only a single glider as well as know its new position. Does anybody know how it could be done?

Re: Make a Position Changing and Identifying Object

Posted: April 6th, 2022, 5:34 pm
by 77551enpassant
Do you mean a pattern that changes position when it's hit by a glider in different directions, and is able determine its net change after being displaced? So if it was hit by 2 different gliders and got displaced (5,3), it would have some way to store/display that value? A block is able to do this, but without the display part or the ability to figure out what direction it's being displaced.

Re: Make a Position Changing and Identifying Object

Posted: April 7th, 2022, 4:59 pm
by Anivec
77551enpassant wrote: April 6th, 2022, 5:34 pm Do you mean a pattern that changes position when it's hit by a glider in different directions, and is able determine its net change after being displaced? So if it was hit by 2 different gliders and got displaced (5,3), it would have some way to store/display that value? A block is able to do this, but without the display part or the ability to figure out what direction it's being displaced.
No, the glider has to come from the same place to be able to interact with other objects such as a computer.
The object could have any displacement, as long as the new displacement doesn’t interrupt with the original position. A block could represent the displacement, but the object has to cope with any possible position the block could be in.
To measure displacement, the displacement position will be relative to the original position.

Re: Make a Position Changing and Identifying Object

Posted: April 8th, 2022, 9:00 am
by dvgrn
AlbertArmStain wrote: April 7th, 2022, 4:59 pm To measure displacement, the displacement position will be relative to the original position.
This is still quite difficult to visualize -- the description is a little too vague. Would the following match your requirements?

-- Life pattern includes two sliding-block registers
-- a glider arriving on a certain lane from Direction 1 results in the entire pattern eventually moving (X1, Y1)
-- then a glider arriving on a certain lane from Direction 2 results in the entire pattern eventually moving (X2, Y2)...
-- but the contents of the two sliding-block registers change each time the pattern moves,
so first they contain (X1, Y1), and finally contain (X1+X2, Y1+Y2)

We can get away with just two sliding-block registers, if we either specify that X1, Y1, X2, Y2 are all positive numbers, or we do some annoyingly complicated stuff to store positive and negative numbers on one sliding-block register (0, 1, -1, 2, -2, 3, -3, ...)

We do theoretically know how to do this with a painfully huge stable pattern: a glider comes in to activate it, and the pattern builds a new copy of itself, copies its instruction tape to the new copy, copies the contents of the two registers, adjusts the registers by (Xn, Yn), and self-destructs.

It seems unlikely that this specific object will ever be built, unless there's some specific and interesting reason for these specific constraints: why "gliders from different directions"? are there constraints on what (X1, Y1) and (X2, Y2) should be? etc.

Re: Make a Position Changing and Identifying Object

Posted: April 8th, 2022, 7:01 pm
by Anivec
dvgrn wrote: April 8th, 2022, 9:00 am
AlbertArmStain wrote: April 7th, 2022, 4:59 pm To measure displacement, the displacement position will be relative to the original position.
This is still quite difficult to visualize -- the description is a little too vague. Would the following match your requirements?
Here's what I was thinking, based off of the Collatz 5n+1 simulator:

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I need that center trombone-slide to be replaced.
EDIT:
There was a missing snark in the first version, patched it in.
Shrunk it a bit.

Re: Make a Position Changing and Identifying Object

Posted: April 8th, 2022, 7:14 pm
by dvgrn
AlbertArmStain wrote: April 8th, 2022, 7:01 pm
dvgrn wrote: April 8th, 2022, 9:00 am This is still quite difficult to visualize -- the description is a little too vague. Would the following match your requirements?
Here's what I was thinking based off of the Collatz 5n+1 simulator:
... I need that center trombone-slide to be replaced.
Which center trombone-slide? Replaced with what? and why exactly does it need to be replaced?

Are the mysterious X1, Y1, X2, Y2 labels intended to answer any of my three questions from the previous post? I don't think I'm anywhere near clever enough to read between the lines on this one.

Re: Make a Position Changing and Identifying Object

Posted: April 8th, 2022, 7:45 pm
by Anivec
dvgrn wrote: April 8th, 2022, 7:14 pm
AlbertArmStain wrote: April 8th, 2022, 7:01 pm
dvgrn wrote: April 8th, 2022, 9:00 am This is still quite difficult to visualize -- the description is a little too vague. Would the following match your requirements?
Here's what I was thinking based off of the Collatz 5n+1 simulator:
... I need that center trombone-slide to be replaced.
Which center trombone-slide? Replaced with what? and why exactly does it need to be replaced?
Here, boxed it in state 14 cells:

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x = 399, y = 387, rule = B3/S23Super
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dvgrn wrote: April 8th, 2022, 7:14 pm Are the mysterious X1, Y1, X2, Y2 labels intended to answer any of my three questions from the previous post?
Yep. It is done exactly like you said.
I forgot labels, so here's one with labels:

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x = 415, y = 387, rule = B3/S23Super
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You could be able to make a graphing calculator with this.
EDIT:
I just realized that the SPLIT function doesn't keep the block in the same lane. Although the block shifts down 1 cell diagonally, it is also moved one cell down orthogonally.

Re: Make a Position Changing and Identifying Object

Posted: April 8th, 2022, 10:57 pm
by dvgrn
AlbertArmStain wrote: April 8th, 2022, 7:45 pm
dvgrn wrote: Which center trombone-slide? Replaced with what? and why exactly does it need to be replaced?
Here, boxed it in state 14 cells...
Okay, that answers one of the three questions. What about the other two?
AlbertArmStain wrote: April 8th, 2022, 7:45 pm You could be able to make a graphing calculator with this.
EDIT:
I just realized that the SPLIT function doesn't keep the block in the same lane. Although the block shifts down 1 cell diagonally, it is also moved one cell down orthogonally.
We have pretty decent graphing calculator hardware in the calculator technology outline in Chapter 9 of the textbook -- you can draw whatever you want with APGsembly code, using a B2D component.

Given the above realization, could you maybe restate your idea for a "Position Changing and Identifying Object" -- and this time explain why it would be interesting to complete a project like that? Where exactly would the input gliders come from, for example, and what exactly would the stored position information be used for?

I've only spent a few minutes trying to understand your X1, Y1, X2, Y2 labels, but so far I can only conclude that you must mean something completely different from what I think you mean. This isn't necessarily a problem with your diagram, it might just be a problem with my ability to understand things -- but the purpose of that structure definitely isn't getting across to me yet.