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Deduction coils (game)

Post by Wyirm »

Deduction coils is a game entirely about the minimal stabilization of induction coils.
Rules:
Given induction coils must actually be able to be stabilized without removing cells.
Cells may be added anywhere, although the goal is to find the minimal stabilization.
If two stabilizations have the same bounding box, but one has a lower population, the lower population still life is the "smallest"
for example, while snake on house and house weld shillelagh have the same bounding box, house weld shillelagh has a lower population

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x = 15, y = 12, rule = LifeSuper
D3.D$.D.D9.L$2.D9.L$.D.D5.L.L$D3.D5.L2$.E.2E$.2E.E8.2E$12.E.E$.3A6.3A
$A3.A4.A3.A$2A.2A4.2A.2A!
Starting induction coil:

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x = 5, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
3obo$o2b2o$bo$2b3o$4bo!

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x = 36, y = 28, rule = TripleLife
17.G$17.3G$20.G$19.2G11$9.EF$8.FG.GD$8.DGAGF$10.DGD5$2.2G$3.G30.2G$3G
25.2G5.G$G27.G.G.3G$21.2G7.G.G$21.2G7.2G!
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Re: Deduction coils (game)

Post by Aleph »

4 cells in 2 ways:

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x = 12, y = 8, rule = Life
2b2o5b2o$2b2o5bo$10bo$3obo2b3obo$o2b2o2bo2b2o$bo6bo$2b3o4b3o$4bo6bo!
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Re: Deduction coils (game)

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(sniped)

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x = 5, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
2b2o$2bo$3bo$3obo$o2b2o$bo$2b3o$4bo!
Next:

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x = 8, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
bo4bo$ob4obo$bo4bo$2bo2bo$b2o2b2o!
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Periods discovered:

All evens ≤128 except 52,58,78,82,92,94,98,104,118,122

5-15,㉕-㉛,㉟㊺,51,63,65,73,75
1㊳㊵㊹㊼㊽,54,56,72,74,80,90,92
217,240,300,486,576

Guns: 20,21,32,54,55,57,114,117,124,126
SKOPs: 32,74,76,102,196
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Re: Deduction coils (game)

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x = 17, y = 7, rule = TripleLife
4.2A7.D$2.3A6.D.D$.A4.A3.D4.D$A.4A.A.D.4D.D$.A4.A3.D4.D$2.A2.A5.D2.D$
.2A2.2A3.2D2.2D!
Something I forgot to clarify, oscillators CAN be used, although only when it results in a better solution than a stable solution. If one of these is found, just post both. Stable: 5, Periodic: 3.

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x = 36, y = 28, rule = TripleLife
17.G$17.3G$20.G$19.2G11$9.EF$8.FG.GD$8.DGAGF$10.DGD5$2.2G$3.G30.2G$3G
25.2G5.G$G27.G.G.3G$21.2G7.G.G$21.2G7.2G!
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Re: Deduction coils (game)

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Here's your next one to stabilize:

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x = 8, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
5b2o$b2obo2bo$b2ob2obo$6bo$b2ob2o$obobo$o2bo$b2o!
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Periods discovered:

All evens ≤128 except 52,58,78,82,92,94,98,104,118,122

5-15,㉕-㉛,㉟㊺,51,63,65,73,75
1㊳㊵㊹㊼㊽,54,56,72,74,80,90,92
217,240,300,486,576

Guns: 20,21,32,54,55,57,114,117,124,126
SKOPs: 32,74,76,102,196
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Re: Deduction coils (game)

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hotdogPi wrote: January 26th, 2022, 9:22 am Here's your next one to stabilize:

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x = 8, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
5b2o$b2obo2bo$b2ob2obo$6bo$b2ob2o$obobo$o2bo$b2o!
It appears that induction coil is impossible to stabilize. In order to suppress the birth of the cell in the middle, normally an aircraft carrier would be used, but that causes the birth of another cell, which then cannot be suppressed without directly connecting another cell to the still life. No cells can be attached due to overcrowding transitions, and I do not see any still life mechanisms to stabilize the induction coil. Correct me if I'm missing something.

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x = 36, y = 28, rule = TripleLife
17.G$17.3G$20.G$19.2G11$9.EF$8.FG.GD$8.DGAGF$10.DGD5$2.2G$3.G30.2G$3G
25.2G5.G$G27.G.G.3G$21.2G7.G.G$21.2G7.2G!
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Re: Deduction coils (game)

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Wyirm wrote: January 26th, 2022, 10:32 am
hotdogPi wrote: January 26th, 2022, 9:22 am Here's your next one to stabilize:

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x = 8, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
5b2o$b2obo2bo$b2ob2obo$6bo$b2ob2o$obobo$o2bo$b2o!
It appears that induction coil is impossible to stabilize. In order to suppress the birth of the cell in the middle, normally an aircraft carrier would be used, but that causes the birth of another cell, which then cannot be suppressed without directly connecting another cell to the still life. No cells can be attached due to overcrowding transitions, and I do not see any still life mechanisms to stabilize the induction coil. Correct me if I'm missing something.
You're absolutely correct. I intentionally chose an impossible one.
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Periods discovered:

All evens ≤128 except 52,58,78,82,92,94,98,104,118,122

5-15,㉕-㉛,㉟㊺,51,63,65,73,75
1㊳㊵㊹㊼㊽,54,56,72,74,80,90,92
217,240,300,486,576

Guns: 20,21,32,54,55,57,114,117,124,126
SKOPs: 32,74,76,102,196
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Re: Deduction coils (game)

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Let's make this next one difficult, shall we?

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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B3/S23
2b2o$2obo$o!

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x = 36, y = 28, rule = TripleLife
17.G$17.3G$20.G$19.2G11$9.EF$8.FG.GD$8.DGAGF$10.DGD5$2.2G$3.G30.2G$3G
25.2G5.G$G27.G.G.3G$21.2G7.G.G$21.2G7.2G!
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Re: Deduction coils (game)

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Wyirm wrote: January 26th, 2022, 8:35 pm Let's make this next one difficult, shall we?

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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B3/S23
2b2o$2obo$o!
16:

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x = 7, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
b2o$o2bo$b2o2b2o$3b2obo$3bo$bobo$b2o!
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Re: Deduction coils (game)

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next one:

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x = 5, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$4bo$2bo$3bo$2bo$o2bo$b2o!

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Re: Deduction coils (game)

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ihatecorderships wrote: January 27th, 2022, 1:26 am next one:

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x = 5, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$4bo$2bo$3bo$2bo$o2bo$b2o!

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x = 6, y = 7, rule = Life
4b2o$3bobo$3bo$b2obo$o2bobo$bo2bo$2b2o!
\sum_{n=1}^\infty H_n/n^2 = \zeta(3)

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Re: Deduction coils (game)

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x = 6, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$3bobo$3bo$2ob2o$bobo$bo2bo$2b2o!
A second option
Next:

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x = 8, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
o$3o$3b2o$5bo$6bo$6bo$6b2o!

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x = 36, y = 28, rule = TripleLife
17.G$17.3G$20.G$19.2G11$9.EF$8.FG.GD$8.DGAGF$10.DGD5$2.2G$3.G30.2G$3G
25.2G5.G$G27.G.G.3G$21.2G7.G.G$21.2G7.2G!
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Re: Deduction coils (game)

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Wyirm wrote: January 28th, 2022, 10:28 am Next:

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x = 8, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
o$3o$3b2o$5bo$6bo$6bo$6b2o!
8?

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x = 8, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
4bo$3bobo$o2b2o$3o$3b2o$2bo2bo$3b2obo$6bo$6b2o!
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Re: Deduction coils (game)

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x = 10, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
8bo$3bo5bo$3bo2b2o2$bobo$o$bo!
cells

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x = 36, y = 28, rule = TripleLife
17.G$17.3G$20.G$19.2G11$9.EF$8.FG.GD$8.DGAGF$10.DGD5$2.2G$3.G30.2G$3G
25.2G5.G$G27.G.G.3G$21.2G7.G.G$21.2G7.2G!
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Re: Deduction coils (game)

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Wyirm wrote: January 31st, 2022, 7:23 pm

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x = 10, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
8bo$3bo5bo$3bo2b2o2$bobo$o$bo!
cells
+8

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x = 10, y = 7, rule = Life
8b2o$2b2o5bo$3bo2b3o$3bobo$bobob2o$obo$bo!
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Re: Deduction coils (game)

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Next One

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x = 7, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
o$4o$3bo$3bo2bo$4bobo$5b2o!
My rules:
B34q/S23-k(ObliquePufferLife) and
B2n3-n4c5c/S234cz5cPM me to get some help on making rules!

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x = 8, y = 5, rule = B3-k/S23
2o3b2o$obo2bobo$2bo2bo$bo$b2o!
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Re: Deduction coils (game)

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The best I got was 20

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x = 12, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
b2o$2bo$bo$b4ob2o$4bobo$b2obo2bo$2bo2bobo$obo3b2ob2o$2o7bo$9bobo$10b2o
!
Edit 1:Slightly...

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x = 11, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
b2o$2bo$bo$b4ob2o$4bobobo$b2obo2bobo$2bo2bobobo$obo3b2ob2o$2o!
My rules:
B34q/S23-k(ObliquePufferLife) and
B2n3-n4c5c/S234cz5cPM me to get some help on making rules!

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x = 8, y = 5, rule = B3-k/S23
2o3b2o$obo2bobo$2bo2bo$bo$b2o!
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Re: Deduction coils (game)

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How does this do?

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x = 13, y = 8, rule = LifeHistory
3.2A$4.A$3.C$3.4C.2A$.2A3.C.A2.2A$A2.A2.C2.C.2A$.2A4.C.C$8.2C!
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Re: Deduction coils (game)

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wwei47 wrote: May 28th, 2022, 11:45 am How does this do?

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x = 13, y = 8, rule = LifeHistory
3.2A$4.A$3.C$3.4C.2A$.2A3.C.A2.2A$A2.A2.C2.C.2A$.2A4.C.C$8.2C!
Great!
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B34q/S23-k(ObliquePufferLife) and
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x = 8, y = 5, rule = B3-k/S23
2o3b2o$obo2bobo$2bo2bo$bo$b2o!
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Re: Deduction coils (game)

Post by LLAMASKYWALKER »

No cheating by looking at other sandbox threads:

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x = 12, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
4b3o$b3o3b2o$o3b3o2bo$b2o4b2obo$bob4o2bobo$bo5bobobo$2b5obobo$8bobo$2b
6obo$bo6bo$2b6o!

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x = 5, y = 5, rule = B3/S12o3H
bo$2obo$3bo$b2obo$3bo!

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x = 15, y = 11, rule = 23/34/10
2$6.F.B$5.GICDA$4.H3I2D2A$4.I3.GF2A$7.FAD2A$8.2A!

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x = 8, y = 14, rule = B3-q4z5y/S234k5j
4b2o$4bo2bo$5b3o7$2o2b3o$2obo3bo$3bo3bo$3bo3bo$4b3o!
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Re: Deduction coils (game)

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LLAMASKYWALKER wrote: May 28th, 2022, 1:08 pm No cheating by looking at other sandbox threads:

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x = 12, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
4b3o$b3o3b2o$o3b3o2bo$b2o4b2obo$bob4o2bobo$bo5bobobo$2b5obobo$8bobo$2b
6obo$bo6bo$2b6o!
How's this?

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x = 17, y = 16, rule = LifeHistory
5.2A$5.A2.A$6.3C$3.3C3.2C$A.C3.3C2.C$2A.2C4.2C.C$3.C.4C2.C.C.2A$3.C5.
C.C.CA.A$4.5C.C.C$10.C.C$4.6C.C$3.C6.C$4.6C2$6.2A$6.2A!
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Re: Deduction coils (game)

Post by HerscheltheHerschel »

Try this without using buns, wings, doves (ironic because this contains doves), bookends, cis-melusines, double cis-melusines, and houses.

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x = 18, y = 21, rule = LifeHistory
4.A$3.A.A$3.A.A$.A.A.A.A$A.A3.A.A$A6.A.A$A.A6.A$.A.A5.A.2A$3.A6.A2.A$
3.A.A5.A2.A$4.A.A5.3A$6.A$6.A.A$7.A.A$9.A$9.A.A$10.A.A$12.A2.3A$12.A.
A2.A$13.A2.A$14.2A!
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Re: Deduction coils (game)

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HerscheltheHerschel wrote: November 8th, 2023, 9:56 am Try this without using buns, wings, doves (ironic because this contains doves), bookends, cis-melusines, double cis-melusines, and houses.

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x = 18, y = 21, rule = LifeHistory
4.A$3.A.A$3.A.A$.A.A.A.A$A.A3.A.A$A6.A.A$A.A6.A$.A.A5.A.2A$3.A6.A2.A$
3.A.A5.A2.A$4.A.A5.3A$6.A$6.A.A$7.A.A$9.A$9.A.A$10.A.A$12.A2.3A$12.A.
A2.A$13.A2.A$14.2A!

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x = 23, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
6bo$5bobo$5bobo$3bobobobo$2bobo3bobo$2bo6bobo$b2obo6bo$o2bobo5bob2o$2o
3bo6bo2bo$5bobo5bo2bo$6bobo5b3o2bo$8bo8b3o$8bobo5bo$9bobo5bo$11bo6bo2b
2o$11bobo5bo2bo$12bobo5b2o$14bo2b3o$14bobo2bo$15bo2bo$16b2o!
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Periods discovered:

All evens ≤128 except 52,58,78,82,92,94,98,104,118,122

5-15,㉕-㉛,㉟㊺,51,63,65,73,75
1㊳㊵㊹㊼㊽,54,56,72,74,80,90,92
217,240,300,486,576

Guns: 20,21,32,54,55,57,114,117,124,126
SKOPs: 32,74,76,102,196
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Re: Deduction coils (game)

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Try to solve:

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x = 7, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
2o$o$o$o$o2bo$b2obo$5b2o!
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Re: Deduction coils (game)

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C_R_116 wrote: November 8th, 2023, 10:35 am Try to solve:

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x = 7, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
2o$o$o$o$o2bo$b2obo$5b2o!

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x = 12, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$bo2bobob2obo$obobobobob2o$bo2bobo$4bo2bo$5b2obobo$7bob2o$7bo$6b2o
!
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Periods discovered:

All evens ≤128 except 52,58,78,82,92,94,98,104,118,122

5-15,㉕-㉛,㉟㊺,51,63,65,73,75
1㊳㊵㊹㊼㊽,54,56,72,74,80,90,92
217,240,300,486,576

Guns: 20,21,32,54,55,57,114,117,124,126
SKOPs: 32,74,76,102,196
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