ConwayLife.com

Seriously, please give them. And as fast as possible,please.
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BokaBB

I think that older versions of Golly have 32-bit versions.

wwei47 wrote: May 23rd, 2021, 9:11 am I think that older versions of Golly have 32-bit versions.

I do not think that it counts.
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BokaBB

rlifesrc?

other versions of golly, with 3.0 and python 2.7 and apgsearch v0 you can apg.
(wait.find catagolue.appspot.com in the script(there should be more than one) and replace them with catagolue.hatsya.com to let it upload succesfully)

wwei47 wrote: May 23rd, 2021, 9:11 am I think that older versions of Golly have 32-bit versions.

I meant that it is the most basic equipment and not what I am looking for.
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BokaBB

BokaBB wrote: May 24th, 2021, 10:57 am I meant that it is the most basic equipment and not what I am looking for.
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BokaBB

It's probably the most advanced equipment available.

wwei47 wrote: May 24th, 2021, 11:11 am

BokaBB wrote: May 24th, 2021, 10:57 am I meant that it is the most basic equipment and not what I am looking for.
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BokaBB

It's probably the most advanced equipment available.

I am certain that Golly cannot search for spaceships and circuitry.
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BokaBB

I said try rlifesrc.

BokaBB wrote: May 26th, 2021, 11:32 am I am certain that Golly cannot search for spaceships and circuitry.

I am certain that Golly is the best simulation software out there.

wwei47 wrote: May 26th, 2021, 12:03 pm

BokaBB wrote: May 26th, 2021, 11:32 am I am certain that Golly cannot search for spaceships and circuitry.

I am certain that Golly is the best simulation software out there.

Maybe,but I need circuitry for Pi puffer life and Traffic Flow and I do not think that Golly can give me them.
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BokaBB

BokaBB wrote: May 26th, 2021, 12:10 pm Maybe,but I need circuitry for Pi puffer life and Traffic Flow and I do not think that Golly can give me them.
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BokaBB

As far as I know circuitry in OCA rules need to be found manually. There really isn't a single program dedicated to finding them. You can ask for and use scripts though. Also, as cgoler2 says, try rlifesrc.

BokaBB wrote: May 26th, 2021, 12:10 pm Maybe,but I need circuitry for Pi puffer life and Traffic Flow and I do not think that Golly can give me them.
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BokaBB

Still don't believe? see this famous one

AbhpzTa wrote: May 22nd, 2017, 9:44 am

Rhombic wrote:EDIT:
AbhpzTa, I've always wondered, what script do you use to find some of your syntheses and strung-together-puffer spaceships? I've seen some remarkably surprising syntheses stemming from weird still life seeds that I can only imagine as coming from the output of some script!!

Only copying/cutting/pasting... etc.
Anyway, I've never used any script for searching yet.

EDIT: 21G synth for a diteardrop gun:

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x = 1296, y = 1238, rule = B36a/S2-i34t5e
219bo$217bobo$218b2o136$700bo$700bobo$700b2o23$796bo$795bo$795b3o181$
979bobo$979b2o$980bo123$855bo$853b2o$854b2o4$313bo$314b2o$313b2o66$
1056bo$1056bobo$1056b2o2$382bo$383b2o$382b2o281$683b2o$683bobo$683bo2$
bo$b2o$obo66$752b2o$752bobo$752bo21$778b3o$778bo$779bo2$27b2o$28b2o$
27bo66$847b3o$847bo$848bo25$849b3o$849bo$850bo42$235b2o$234bobo$236bo
2$1294bo$1293b2o$1293bobo60$189b2o$190b2o$189bo4$166b2o$165bobo$167bo
15$981b3o$981bo$982bo74$365b2o$366b2o$365bo!

Only copying/cutting/pasting... etc.
Anyway, I've never used any script for searching yet.

Most scripts for circuitry do exactly the same thing as editing pattern in golly by hand, and are only faster if the thing you are looking for is well defined. If you want to find circuitry in a rule, first do it by hand to get an idea of exactly what you are looking for, and which steps can be done by a script.

For example, finding reflectors would need a different script from finding splitters, and would also be different from the script for finding catalysts.

I would like to add my testimony as someone who has almost never used search programs to find anything of merit. You can get a lot just by brute-forcing every possibility (whether it be placing catalysts in every possible position to look for a reflector/conduit or aligning sparky oscillators in every possible position to look for a gun). Scripts can help—there are a few brute-forcing Python scripts out there, and apgsearch has probably never killed anyone—but ultimately you are going to have to be the one doing most of the work.
The only OCA-compatible potentially-circuitry-finding programs I am aware of are Bellman and LLS, both of which are more useful for finding catalysts to finish a partial reaction; you would still have to do a bit of work to find such a partial reaction in the first place.

An example of a large "circuitry" pattern found just using Golly and a bit of math is the Waterbear. Outside of CA, the famous Monster group was found by hand as well, even though its subgroups had often taken extensive amounts of computer work to find.

Finally, I would like to say that I completely agree with silversmith's post above.

toroidalet wrote: May 27th, 2021, 9:41 pm The only OCA-compatible potentially-circuitry-finding programs I am aware of are Bellman and LLS, both of which are more useful for finding catalysts to finish a partial reaction; you would still have to do a bit of work to find such a partial reaction in the first place.

Well, dr works for totalistic rules and LeapLife. It's found signal wires in Life before, so it's not completely out of the question.

wwei47 wrote: May 27th, 2021, 9:56 pm

toroidalet wrote: May 27th, 2021, 9:41 pm The only OCA-compatible potentially-circuitry-finding programs I am aware of are Bellman and LLS, both of which are more useful for finding catalysts to finish a partial reaction; you would still have to do a bit of work to find such a partial reaction in the first place.

Well, dr works for totalistic rules and LeapLife. It's found signal wires in Life before, so it's not completely out of the question.

Well,I am not really interested in totalistic rules all that much.
Am I on your foe list?If not, please read my recent private message.
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BokaBB

As a lot of people before me said, try rlifesrc. It can search for spaceships and oscillators in a wide variety of rules, including isotropic non-totalistic ones.

ihatecorderships wrote: May 28th, 2021, 10:32 am As a lot of people before me said, try rlifesrc. It can search for spaceships and oscillators in a wide variety of rules, including isotropic non-totalistic ones.

Did indeed a few days ago.
Unfortunately,it has a weird bug at me and breaks in the middle of searching with continuously alternating two states with the only change being that in one of them one square is a o and in the other the same one is ?.
It also often will not load.
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BokaBB

Have you ever visited Tutorials/Contributing to Catagolue? Instructions to use apgsearch are there.

cgoler2 wrote: May 28th, 2021, 1:52 pm apgsearch

apgsearch requires a x86-64 (64-bit) machine.

bubblegum wrote: May 28th, 2021, 2:07 pm apgsearch requires a x86-64 (64-bit) machine.

The Python version doesn't.

wwei47 wrote: May 28th, 2021, 2:21 pm

bubblegum wrote: May 28th, 2021, 2:07 pm apgsearch requires a x86-64 (64-bit) machine.

The Python version doesn't.

The python version quite needs to be fixed(only the latest one in the hacking thread work with modification, and it usually losses some t rules)