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Keeping track of dirty conduits
Posted: January 14th, 2021, 5:50 pm
by MathAndCode
EDIT by dvgrn Related links:
When searching for conduits, it is not unusual to find a recognized output as well as some still-lifes and oscillators or an active region either just behind the output region or near/just behind where the input region was, i.e. a messy conduit. Sometimes, these can be treated as partials and cleaned up, but even if not, it's still useful to keep track of messy conduits because it's possible that two messy conduits can be appended to each other so that their messes annihilate each other. Here's an example of such a messy conduit. (It's periodic, but it can probably be made stable.)
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x = 91, y = 63, rule = B3/S23
18b3o57b3o2$17bo3bo55bo3bo$17bo3bo55bo3bo2$18b3o57b3o3$18b3o57b3o2$17b
o3bo55bo3bo$17bo3bo55bo3bo2$18b3o57b3o10$3bob2o56bob2o$b3ob2o54b3ob2o
$o59bo$b3ob2o54b3ob2o$3bobo57bobo$3bobo57bobo$4bo59bo2$27b2o58b2o$26b
obo57bobo$27bo59bo4$5b2o58b2o$6bo59bo$6bobo57bobo$7b2o58b2o3$14bo59bo
$13b3o57b3o$15b2o58b2o3$27b2o58b2o$27bobo45bo11bobo$29bo44bobo12bo$29b
2o43bo2bo11b2o$75b2o$72bo$72bo$14b3o55bo$16bo$15bo$12b2obo$13b2o2$10b
2o$10b2o!
As the above pattern demonstrates, the conduit works if the century has certain active regions (the pi) or stable objects (the loaf and blinker) behind it. If someone finds a conduit that creates a messy century, it's possible that the two conduits could be combined to produce a clean C→G, but we'll never know unless we keep track of the dirty conduits that we find.
Re: Keeping track of dirty conduits
Posted: January 14th, 2021, 8:57 pm
by wwei23
MathAndCode wrote: January 14th, 2021, 5:50 pmwe'll never know unless we keep track of the dirty conduits that we find.
Haven't you shown a full example where a dirty conduit was cleaned up by the next conduit?
EDIT: Fixed punctuation mark.
Re: Keeping track of dirty conduits
Posted: January 14th, 2021, 9:57 pm
by MathAndCode
wwei23 wrote: January 14th, 2021, 8:57 pmHaven't you shown a full example where a dirty conduit was cleaned up by the next conduit?
It was technically a dirty version of RF28B, which already had clean versions, but I guess that it still counts. Thank you for reminding me of it. The example is
here.
Edit: I just realized that the junk is actually blonk-tie.
Re: Keeping track of dirty conduits
Posted: July 14th, 2021, 7:40 pm
by C28
dirty u-turner to B and a glider
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x = 38, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
25b3o$25b3o$24bobo$24b2o3$2o$2o2$31b2obo$31b2ob3o$37bo$31b2ob3o$4b2o26b
obo$5bo26bobo$2b3o28bo$2bo7$24b2o$23bobo$24bo!
Re: Keeping track of dirty conduits
Posted: August 18th, 2021, 2:09 pm
by Gustone
incomplete 2H to H with no possible input
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x = 35, y = 15, rule = LifeHistory
9.C$9.3C5.C$4.C7.C4.3C$4.3C4.2C7.C12.C$7.C11.2C10.3C$2C4.2C22.C$.C28.
2C$.C.C$2.2C22.2D$26.2D2$18.E12.2C$18.E.E10.C.C$18.3E12.C$20.E12.2C!
Re: Keeping track of dirty conduits
Posted: November 8th, 2021, 4:05 pm
by C28
anyone here who thinks they can get a useful U to U?
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x = 29, y = 28, rule = B3/S23
6b2o$5bo2bo$o2bo2bobo$5obob2o$6bo2bo$2b3o2b3o$bo4b4o7b3o$bob2o2b3o7b3o
$2bo3bo2bo6bobo$3b2obob2o6b2o$4bobobo$3bo2bobo$3b2o2bo12$25bo$16b2o7b
3o$16b2o10bo$27b2o!
edit: this hurts
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x = 44, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
38b3o$38b3o$37bobo$37b2o2$15b2o7b2o$2o11b2o2bo6b2o$2o11b6o4bo2bo$13b4o
5bob2o$22bob2o2$22bob2o$13b4o5bob2o$2o11b6o4b3ob2o$2o11b2o2bo6bobobo$
15b2o7b4o8b8o$25b2o9bob4obo$36b8o!
edit 2: almost there
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x = 17, y = 41, rule = B3/S23
14b3o$14b3o$13bobo$13b2o9$2b2o$bobo$3o6bo$2ob3ob2ob2o$b5ob2ob2o$3bo5b
o$4b2ob2o4$3bo5bo$2b2o5b2o$bob2o3b2obo$bob2o3b2obo$2b3o3b3o$2b3o3b3o12$
2b2o5b2o$2b2o5b2o!
edit 3: some custom sparker may be needed to delete the blinker
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x = 21, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
2bo$bobo$o3bo13b3o$bo3bo12b3o$2bo3bo10bobo$3bo3bo9b2o$4bobo$5bo!
Re: Keeping track of dirty conduits
Posted: September 2nd, 2022, 10:35 am
by Gustone
Doubler/splitter but no
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x = 29, y = 36, rule = LifeHistory
15.2C$16.C$16.C.C$17.2C$7.C$7.3C$10.C$9.2C5$19.D$18.D.D$18.D.D$2E17.D
$.2E$2E$E9$4.C.2C17.2C$2.3C.2C17.C$.C24.3C$2.3C.2C20.C$4.C.C$4.C.C$5.
C$14.2C$14.2C!
Re: Keeping track of dirty conduits
Posted: November 1st, 2022, 10:42 am
by C28
p15 U to G in need of junk removal
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x = 21, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
b3o$b3o$obo7b2o6b2o$2o7bo2bo4bo2bo$9bo2bo4bo2bo$9bo2bo4bo2bo$10b2o6b2o
4$7b2o$7bobo$9bo$9b2o!
edit: p30 P to U with an extra block
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x = 23, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
12b2o$12b2o4b3o$b2o6b2o6b5o$b2o5b3o5bo3bobo$9b2o6bo3b2o$12b2o$12b2o8$
3o$2bo$3o!
Re: Keeping track of dirty conduits
Posted: December 23rd, 2023, 8:26 pm
by Quantum-mechanics
Dirty H-to-2G:
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x = 28, y = 31, rule = LifeHistory
26.2C$26.C$24.C.C$5.A18.2C$5.3A$8.A$7.2A8$25.2C$25.2C$7.E$7.E.E$7.3E$
9.E8$16.2A3.2A$17.A3.A$14.3A5.3A$14.A9.A!
Re: Keeping track of dirty conduits
Posted: December 28th, 2023, 3:49 pm
by Tawal
Here's some dirties Pi to G and one Pi to H :
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x = 301, y = 53, rule = LifeHistory
241.3D$241.D$242.D12$5.2A$5.A170.3D$2.2A.A170.D$A2.A.2A170.D35.A$2A
209.3A$4.3A58.2A60.A9.2D71.A$3.A2.A59.A60.3A6.D.D71.2A76.2D$3.2A59.A
65.A7.D149.2D$64.2A2.2A59.2A86.A$67.A.A145.3A$62.4A.A141.2D3.A$62.A2.
A.2A139.D2.D2.2A$13.2D194.2D$12.D.D274.D$13.D274.D.D$28.2A41.3D10.2A
202.D.D$28.A44.D10.A204.D$26.A.A43.D9.A.A41.2D15.2A$26.2A54.2A42.2D
15.A$8.3ED56.3E57.3E10.A.A44.3E77.3E$10.ED58.E59.E10.2A47.E79.E$8.3E
53.2D2.3E57.3E57.3E77.3E$64.2D231.2A$9.2D171.2A78.2A33.A.A$8.D2.D170.
2A78.2A35.A$9.2D288.2A$124.A.2A$122.3A.2A$121.A65.2A78.2A$122.3A.2A
60.A79.A$124.A.A58.3A77.3A$124.A.A58.A79.A$125.A4$12.3D$14.D$13.3D!
And there's 2 dirties H to G :
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x = 122, y = 88, rule = LifeHistory
26.D$25.2DB$25.DBDB$26.4B$27.4B$28.4B$29.4B$30.4B$31.4B$32.4B$33.4B$
34.4B$35.4B$36.4B$37.4B$38.4B$39.4B$40.4B$41.4B$42.4B$43.4B$44.4B$45.
4B$46.4B$47.4B$48.4B$49.4B$50.4B$40.2C6.7B$41.C5.9B$41.C.CB.5BD5B62.E
$42.2C7BD7B58.3E$43.8BD8B56.E$44.17B55.CE$44.17B53.4B$44.18B49.5B$38.
2C5.17B37.C11.6B$39.C5.18B36.3C9.7B$39.C.CB3.18B38.C6.8B$40.2CB.19B
38.2C.3B2.7B$42.21B38.8B.6B$42.20B4.2C35.15B$43.19B4.C36.16B$42.20B.B
C.C35.18B$40.22B.B2C34.19BDB$38.27B33.22B2D$38.2BE23B34.2BE9B2D7B2D$
37.3BEBE21B33.3BEBE7B2D3B.B$38.2B3E4B.13B37.2B3E4B2.6B$37.5BE4B2.12B
36.5BE4B2.B2D3B$36.10B2.9B.2B36.10B3.D2BD3B$35.4B9.11B36.4B11.2D2B.B$
34.4B9.13B34.4B13.5B$33.4B10.13B33.4B17.CE$32.4B10.13B33.4B18.E$31.4B
10.14B32.4B20.3E$30.4B11.13B32.4B23.E$29.4B12.13B31.4B$28.4B13.13B30.
D3B$27.4B15.11B31.DBD$26.4B58.2D$25.4B$24.4B$23.4B$22.4B$21.4B$20.4B$
19.4B$18.4B$17.4B$16.4B$15.4B$14.4B$13.4B$12.4B$11.4B$10.4B$9.4B$8.4B
$7.4B$6.4B$5.4B$4.4B$3.4B$2.4B$.D3B$D3B$3D!
Edit:
Some dirties B/H to G :
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x = 140, y = 42, rule = LifeHistory
100.3D$100.D$101.D22$85.2D$E39.E39.E4.D.D32.E$2E38.2E38.2E3.D34.2E7.
2D$.2E5.2D31.2E5.2D31.2E38.2E5.D2.D$2E6.D.D29.2E5.2D31.2E38.2E7.2D$8.
D4.2D34.D3.D$12.D2.D36.D.D$13.D.D37.D3.2C38.2C$14.D42.2C38.2C$93.D$
92.D.D$11.2C38.2C39.D.D$11.2C38.2C40.D2$138.2C$139.C$136.3C$136.C!
Re: Keeping track of dirty conduits
Posted: December 29th, 2023, 3:31 pm
by HerscheltheHerschel
periodic solution for pi-to-g:
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x = 35, y = 28, rule = LifeSuper
17.A9.2D$2A4.A10.3A6.D.D$A.A2.A.A12.A7.D$2.A2.A.2A10.2A$A.A2.A.A$2A4.
2A2.2A$10.3A2$9.A$9.A$9.A4.A$9.A4.A$9.A6.2D15.2A$9.A6.2D15.A$18.3E10.
A.A$10.3A7.E10.2A$2A4.2A2.2A6.3E$A.A2.A.A$2.A2.A.2A$A.A2.A.A$2A4.A$
14.A.2A$12.3A.2A$11.A$12.3A.2A$14.A.A$14.A.A$15.A!
unfortunately the accessibility gets ruined
p15 variant with a somewhat better accessibility:
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x = 29, y = 28, rule = B3/S23Super
11.A9.2D$11.3A6.D.D$14.A7.D$13.2A3$3.3A$2.A3.A$.A5.A2$A7.A$A7.A$10.2D
15.2A$.A5.A2.2D15.A$2.A3.A5.3E10.A.A$3.3A8.E10.2A$12.3E5$8.A.2A$6.3A.
2A$5.A$6.3A.2A$8.A.A$8.A.A$9.A!
Re: Keeping track of dirty conduits
Posted: December 29th, 2023, 10:50 pm
by Tawal
P to 2G with an annoying blinker :
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x = 41, y = 33, rule = LifeHistory
5$13.B$12.3B14.2C6.C$12.3B12.2B2CB3.3C$7.D3.5B11.4B3.C$6.2DB.6B10.6B
2.2C$6.DBD23B.3B$6.16B3D9B$6.29B$4.32B$4.31B$4.27BD3B$4.25B2D3B$5.25B
2D$5.4B3E18B$7.4BE12B2.3B$7.2B3E12B$8.16B$7.17B$6.17B$7.10B3.B$8.8B$
8.7B$8.2A$9.A$6.3A$6.A!
Re: Keeping track of dirty conduits
Posted: December 30th, 2023, 11:31 am
by squareroot12621
Tawal wrote: December 29th, 2023, 10:50 pm
P to 2G with an annoying blinker :
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x = 41, y = 33, rule = LifeHistory
5$13.B$12.3B14.2C6.C$12.3B12.2B2CB3.3C$7.D3.5B11.4B3.C$6.2DB.6B10.6B
2.2C$6.DBD23B.3B$6.16B3D9B$6.29B$4.32B$4.31B$4.27BD3B$4.25B2D3B$5.25B
2D$5.4B3E18B$7.4BE12B2.3B$7.2B3E12B$8.16B$7.17B$6.17B$7.10B3.B$8.8B$
8.7B$8.2A$9.A$6.3A$6.A!
You can get rid of the blinker, as long as you sacrifice one of the gliders. It's easier to do the top one here:
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x = 56, y = 63, rule = LifeHistory
7.2A$7.A5.2A$8.3A.A.A$10.A.A$11.2AB$11.2B$11.4B2.B$12.8B$12.8B$11.8B2A
$10.2B2A3B.B2A$10.BABA4B.B$10.ABA4B$10.BA7B$11.8B$12.7B$12.8B$12.8B$4.
A7.7B$3.A.A6.7B$3.A.A6.8B$.3A.2A4.10B$A4.B6.10B$.3AB2AB3.7B.4B$3.A.2A
B.8B3.4B$7.10B4.4B$7.6B2A3B4.4B$7.6B2A2B6.4B$7.10B7.4B$6.12B7.4B$6.14B
.2A3.4B$5.16BA.A3.4B$4.17B2.A4.4B$.2B.16B3.2A4.4B$2A18B10.4B$2AB.17B10.
4B$.B.4B.8B2.4B10.4B$8.7B4.4B8.B.4B$9.6B5.4B6.3B.4B9.2A6.A$11.4B6.4B5.
3B2.4B6.2B2AB3.3A$13.3BA5.4B3.5B2.5B4.4B3.A$14.BA.A5.4B.7B2.5B2.6B2.2A
$15.A.A6.26B.3B$16.A7.28B$17.3A4.29B$19.A2.32B$22.31B$22.27BD3B$22.25B
2D3B$23.25B2D$23.4B3C19B$25.4BC12B2.4B$25.2B3C12B.4B$26.20B$25.20B$24.
20B$25.10B3.5B$26.8B4.4B$26.7B4.4B$26.2A8.4B$27.A7.4B$24.3A7.4B$24.A8.
4B!
Re: Keeping track of dirty conduits
Posted: January 4th, 2024, 2:51 pm
by Tawal
I found this H to 4G which lefts a Boat and a Block :
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x = 61, y = 69, rule = LifeHistory
8$16.2D$15.2D2B$16.BD2B$17.4B$18.4B$19.4B$20.4B$21.4B$22.4B$23.4B$24.
4BD$25.2B2DB$26.BDBDB$27.5B$28.5B$29.5B$30.5B$30.5B$29.7B$28.8B$21.2C
4.12B$22.C5.13B$22.C.CB2.14B$23.2CB.15B$25.12B3D3B$18.2C4.15BD3B$19.C
5.13BD4B$19.C.CB2.2BD.15B$20.2CB.2BDBD15B$22.4B2D17B$22.13BD9B$23.10B
DBD8B$22.12B2D7B$20.22B$18.23B$18.2BE20B$17.3BEBE4B.11B$18.2B3E4B2.8B
$17.5BE4B2.7B$17.9B4.6B$15.4B10.7B$14.4B11.7B$14.3B13.7B$12.4B13.7B$
12.2C15.6B$13.C15.6B$10.3C16.2B2D3B$10.C18.2B2D2B$27.2CB.3B$26.C.CB$
26.C$25.2C!
I begin an engineering clean-up :
- in white : the dirty Hto4G
- in green : jujub reflector to clean the boat
- in yellow : a way to clean the block (reflected NE glider or other source as the stream is eaten).
In this case, the conduit becomes H to G1.
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x = 127, y = 115, rule = LifeHistory
2$119.E$118.E2B$117.B3E$116.4B$115.4B$114.4B$113.4B$112.4B$111.4B$
110.4B$109.4B$108.4B$107.4B$106.4B$105.4B$104.4B$103.4B$102.4B$101.4B
$100.4B$99.4B$98.4B$97.4B$96.4B$95.4B$94.4B$93.4B$92.4B$91.4B$90.4B$
89.E3B$88.E3B$87.B3E$86.4B$85.4B$84.4B$83.4B$82.4B$81.4B$80.4B$79.4B$
19.2D57.4B$18.2D2B55.4B$19.BD2B53.4B$20.4B51.4B$21.4B49.4B$22.4B47.4B
$23.4B45.4B$24.4B43.4B$25.4B41.4B$26.4B39.4B$27.4BD36.4B$28.2B2DB34.
4B$29.BDBDB32.4B$30.5B30.4B$31.5B28.4B$32.5B26.4B$33.5B24.4B$33.5B23.
4B$32.7B21.4B$31.8B20.4B$24.2C4.12B16.4B$25.C5.13B13.4B$25.C.CB2.14B
11.4B$26.2CB.15B10.4B$28.12B3D3B8.4B$21.2C4.15BD3B7.4B$22.C5.13BD4B6.
4B$22.C.CB2.2BD.15B4.4B$23.2CB.2BDBD15B$25.4B2D17B$25.13BD9B$26.10BDB
D8B$25.12B2D7B$23.22B$21.23B$21.2BE20B$20.3BEBE4B.14B4.A$21.2B3E4B2.
8B2.4B3.3A9.2A$20.5BE4B2.7B4.4B5.A8.A$20.9B4.6B5.4B3.2A5.A3.3A$18.4B
10.7B6.4B2.4B3.4A3.A$17.4B11.7B7.4B3.5B3.B.A.A$17.3B13.7B7.13B2AB2A$
15.4B13.7B9.12B2A$15.2C15.6B11.11B3.2A$16.C15.6B12.10B4.A$13.3C16.2B
2D3B12.9B3.A$13.C18.2B2D2B14.9B2.2A$30.2CB.3B8.2A5.9B$29.C.CB12.A.A4.
9B$29.C17.A4.2B2A3B.B2A$28.2C17.3A.2BA2BA2B.BA.A$45.2A2.BA3BABAB5.A$
44.A2.4A4BA4B3.2A$44.2A.A.4B5.2A$47.A.2A7.A$47.A.A9.3A$46.2A.A.A9.A$
50.2A!
Re: Keeping track of dirty conduits
Posted: January 4th, 2024, 3:27 pm
by confocaloid
Tawal wrote: January 4th, 2024, 2:51 pm
I found this H to 4G which lefts a Boat and a Block :
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x = 61, y = 69, rule = LifeHistory
8$16.2D$15.2D2B$16.BD2B$17.4B$18.4B$19.4B$20.4B$21.4B$22.4B$23.4B$24.
4BD$25.2B2DB$26.BDBDB$27.5B$28.5B$29.5B$30.5B$30.5B$29.7B$28.8B$21.2C
4.12B$22.C5.13B$22.C.CB2.14B$23.2CB.15B$25.12B3D3B$18.2C4.15BD3B$19.C
5.13BD4B$19.C.CB2.2BD.15B$20.2CB.2BDBD15B$22.4B2D17B$22.13BD9B$23.10B
DBD8B$22.12B2D7B$20.22B$18.23B$18.2BE20B$17.3BEBE4B.11B$18.2B3E4B2.8B
$17.5BE4B2.7B$17.9B4.6B$15.4B10.7B$14.4B11.7B$14.3B13.7B$12.4B13.7B$
12.2C15.6B$13.C15.6B$10.3C16.2B2D3B$10.C18.2B2D2B$27.2CB.3B$26.C.CB$
26.C$25.2C!
[...]
The boat allows for an interesting cleanup (especially if there is a way to do everything using only one of four gliders):
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x = 84, y = 101, rule = LifeHistory
5B$.5B$2.5B$3.5B$4.5B$5.2B2DB$6.2D3B$7.BD3B$8.5B$9.5B$10.5B$11.5B$12.
5B$13.5B$14.5B$15.4BD$16.2B2DB20.B$17.BDBDB18.2B$18.5B16.3B$19.5B14.
4B$20.5B12.4B$21.5B10.4B$21.5B9.4B$20.7B7.4B$19.8B6.4B$12.2C4.12B2.4B
$13.C5.16B$13.C.CB2.15B$14.2CB.15B$16.12B3D3B$9.2C4.15BD3B$10.C5.13BD
4B$10.C.CB2.2BD16B$11.2CB.2BDBD15B$13.4B2D17B$13.13BD9B$14.10BDBD8B$
13.12B2D7B$11.22B$9.23B$9.2BE20B$8.3BEBE4B.14B$9.2B3E4B2.8B2.4B$8.5BE
4B2.7B4.2B2A$7.10B4.6B5.BABA$6.4B10.7B6.2BAB$5.4B11.7B7.B2A$5.3B13.7B
7.2B$3.4B13.7B9.B$3.2C15.6B$4.C15.6B$.3C16.2B2D3B$.C18.2B2D2B$18.2CB.
3B$17.C.CB$17.C$16.2C42$81.3A$81.A$82.A!
Re: Keeping track of dirty conduits
Posted: January 4th, 2024, 3:47 pm
by Tawal
confocaloid wrote: January 4th, 2024, 3:27 pm
Tawal wrote: January 4th, 2024, 2:51 pm
I found this H to 4G which lefts a Boat and a Block :
[...]
The boat allows for an interesting cleanup (especially if there is a way to do everything using only one of four gliders):
Yes, I also think like you.
But as beginner I am, I only find a cheap stable way to clean one junk (the boat).
About stable glider reflectors, is there 180° with +1 , +2 , +3 half diagonal ?
I often need this reflectors to have a solution of my experiments.
Re: Keeping track of dirty conduits
Posted: January 4th, 2024, 4:07 pm
by confocaloid
Tawal wrote: January 4th, 2024, 3:47 pm
About stable glider reflectors, is there 180° with +1 , +2 , +3 half diagonal ?
I often need this reflectors to have a solution of my experiments.
I think compact stable 180° glider reflectors are an unsolved problem, for many lane/timing combinations.
It is possible to assemble an engineered 180° glider reflector, for example using
Snarks, a
syringe, some
Herschel conduits and an edge-shooting Herschel-to-glider converter. But it will be large and slow.
In many cases, there should be more compact periodic solutions. For example a single pentadecathlon can do 3hd:
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x = 52, y = 24, rule = B3/S23
b2o6b2o$o2bo4bo2bo$o2bo4bo2bo4bo$o2bo4bo2bo2bobo$b2o6b2o4b2o15$41b2o6b
2o$40bo2bo4bo2bo$40bo2bo4bo2bo$40bo2bo4bo2bo$41b2o6b2o!
Re: Keeping track of dirty conduits
Posted: January 4th, 2024, 4:24 pm
by Tawal
confocaloid wrote: January 4th, 2024, 4:07 pm
...
I think compact stable 180° glider reflectors are an unsolved problem, for many lane/timing combinations.
...
Oh, I am so sad
But I hope it's wrong
confocaloid wrote: January 4th, 2024, 4:07 pm
It is possible to assemble an engineered 180° glider reflector, for example using
Snarks, a
syringe, some
Herschel conduits and an edge-shooting Herschel-to-glider converter. But it will be large and slow.
In many cases, there should be more compact periodic solutions. For example a single pentadecathlon can do 3hd:
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x = 52, y = 24, rule = B3/S23
b2o6b2o$o2bo4bo2bo$o2bo4bo2bo4bo$o2bo4bo2bo2bobo$b2o6b2o4b2o15$41b2o6b
2o$40bo2bo4bo2bo$40bo2bo4bo2bo$40bo2bo4bo2bo$41b2o6b2o!
Yes, I known about that.
Thanks a lot.
Re: Keeping track of dirty conduits
Posted: January 8th, 2024, 7:31 pm
by confocaloid
Crosspost: galumpher engineering led to a stable replacement for the single-pentadecathlon 180-degree reflector
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x = 87, y = 54, rule = B3/S23
7b3o26b2o6b2o$6bo3bo24bo2bo4bo2bo$6bo3bo24bo2bo4bo2bo4bo$7b3o25bo2bo4b
o2bo2bobo$36b2o6b2o4b2o4$7b3o$6bo3bo$6bo3bo$7b3o3$9bo$10bo$8b3o3$76b2o
6b2o$30b2o4b2o37bo2bo4bo2bo$30b2o4b2o37bo2bo4bo2bo$44b2o29bo2bo4bo2bo$
43bobo3bo26b2o6b2o$24b2o17bo4bobo$24bobo15b2o4bobo$25bo21b2ob3o$53bo$
47b2ob3o$47b2obo5$15bo$14bobo$15bo37b2o$53b2o6$2o$2o14b2o$16b2o17b2o$
35b2o4$16b2o14b2o$15bobo14b2o$15bo$14b2o!
#C [[ THEME LifeHistory ]]
Tawal wrote: January 4th, 2024, 3:47 pm[...]
About stable glider reflectors, is there 180° with +1 , +2 , +3 half diagonal ?
[...]
confocaloid wrote: January 4th, 2024, 4:07 pm[...] For example a single pentadecathlon can do 3hd:
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x = 52, y = 24, rule = B3/S23
b2o6b2o$o2bo4bo2bo$o2bo4bo2bo4bo$o2bo4bo2bo2bobo$b2o6b2o4b2o15$41b2o6b
2o$40bo2bo4bo2bo$40bo2bo4bo2bo$40bo2bo4bo2bo$41b2o6b2o!
affamatodidio wrote: January 8th, 2024, 6:07 pm
Galumpher engineering has led to a new, spartan, 180 degree reflector. On a new lane.
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x = 55, y = 34, rule = B3/S23
15bo14b2o4b2o$16bo13b2o4b2o$14b3o27b2o$43bobo3bo$24b2o17bo4bobo$24bob
o15b2o4bobo$25bo21b2ob3o$53bo$47b2ob3o$47b2obo5$15bo$14bobo$15bo37b2o
$53b2o6$2o$2o14b2o$16b2o17b2o$35b2o4$16b2o14b2o$15bobo14b2o$15bo$14b2o
!
Remove the leftmost block for a toad factory.
I think that now that there are several spartan 180 degree reflectors based on Galumphoid designs that a wiki page is in order.
Re: Keeping track of dirty conduits
Posted: January 12th, 2024, 7:37 pm
by Tawal
Here's a H to G (NE45T163 if I've calculated correctly) with an annoying blinker.
(Edit3: It's a new lane, isn't it ?)
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x = 88, y = 65, rule = LifeHistory
8$42.2A$42.A$39.A4.A2.2A$39.5A.A2.A$25.2A16.B.2A.A.2A$26.A10.4AB3AB2.
A2.A$26.A.AB7.A2.A.A3B2A.A$27.2AB.3B4.7B2.A.2A$29.7B3.7B.A$29.16B.2A$
30.15B$29.16B$27.18B$25.19B$25.2BE15B$24.3BEBE4B.7B6.2C$25.2B3E4B2.7B
3.2B2CB$24.5BE4B2.9B.4B20.4B$23.10B4.15B17.4B$22.4B10.16B16.4B$21.4B
11.16B15.4B$20.4B12.17B13.4B$19.4B13.18B11.4B$18.4B13.20B9.4B$18.3B
15.19B8.4B$16.4B16.19B7.4B$16.2C19.17B7.4B$17.C20.18B4.4B$14.3C25.4BD
10B2.4B$14.C27.4BD15B$41.5BD2B.11B3.2C$39.16B.4B4.C$39.21B.BC.C$38.2C
20B.B2C$38.2C22B$39.B.21B$41.21B$42.19B$43.6BD9B$44.5B2D2B.4B$46.2BDB
D2B3.B$46.6B$46.6B$46.5B$45.6B$45.6B$46.5B$46.3B$44.2CB$43.C.CB$43.C$
42.2C!
Edit:
It's a known modified H-to-Boat.
Edit2:
A FNG Snarked solution :
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x = 111, y = 99, rule = LifeHistory
6$62.2A$27.A34.A$25.3A31.A4.A2.2A$15.3E6.A34.5A.A2.A$15.E8.2A19.2A16.
B.2A.A.2A$14.3E11.2A16.A10.4AB3AB2.A2.A$29.A16.A.AB7.A2.A.A3B2A.A$27.
A19.2AB.3B4.7B2.A.2A$27.2A20.7B3.7B.A$49.16B.2A$50.15B$49.16B$47.18B$
45.19B$30.2A13.2BD15B$11.2A17.2A12.3BDBD4B.7B6.2C$11.2A32.2B3D4B2.7B
3.2B2CB$44.5BD4B2.9B.4B20.4B$43.10B4.15B17.4B$10.2A30.4B10.16B16.4B$
11.A29.4B11.16B15.4B$8.3A12.2A16.3B12.17B13.4B$8.A14.A17.2B13.18B11.
4B$24.3A14.B13.20B9.4B$26.A29.19B8.4B$56.19B7.4B$21.A35.17B7.4B$21.3A
34.18B4.4B$24.A37.4BD10B2.4B$23.2A37.4BD15B$61.5BD2B.11B3.2C$59.16B.
4B4.C$12.2A.2A42.21B.BC.C$12.2A.A42.2C20B.B2C$15.A42.2C22B$15.3A4.2A
35.B.21B$13.2A3.A3.2A37.21B$12.A2.4A43.19B$12.2A.A15.2A30.6BD9B$13.A
2.3A12.A.A30.5B2D2B.4B$13.A5.A13.A32.2BDBD2B3.B$14.5A14.2A31.6B$16.A
49.6B$66.5B20.A$65.6B2.2A14.5A$65.6B3.A13.A5.A$66.5B3.A.A12.3A2.A$66.
3B6.2A15.A.2A$64.2CB22.4A2.A$63.C.CB17.2A3.A3.2A$63.C20.2A4.3A$62.2C
28.A$92.A.2A$91.2A.2A3$83.2A$83.A$84.3A$86.A3$59.A$57.3A$56.A$56.2A7$
46.2A$45.A.A5.2A$45.A7.2A$44.2A2$58.A$54.2A.A.A$53.A.A.A.A$50.A2.A.A.
A.2A$50.4A.2A2.A$54.A4.A$50.2A2.A.3A$50.2A3.2A!
Edit4:
Yes, I well calculated for the lane not the timing (repeat time 370):
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x = 169, y = 151, rule = LifeHistory
11$70.D3.D.5D4.D2.5D.5D3.D4.3D2.5D$70.2D2.D.D7.2D2.D7.D4.2D3.D9.D$70.
D.D.D.D6.D.D2.D7.D5.D3.D8.D$70.D2.2D.3D3.D2.D3.3D4.D5.D3.4D4.D$70.D3.
D.D5.5D5.D3.D5.D3.D3.D2.D$70.D3.D.D8.D2.D3.D3.D5.D3.D3.D.D$70.D3.D.5D
4.D3.3D4.D4.3D3.3D2.D38$84.2A$84.A$81.A4.A2.2A$81.5A.A2.A$67.2A16.B.
2A.A.2A31.B$68.A10.4AB3AB2.A2.A30.2B$68.A.AB7.A2.A.A3B2A.A31.3B$69.2A
B.3B4.7B2.A.2A29.4B$71.7B3.7B.A31.4B$71.16B.2A30.4B$72.15B32.4B$71.
16B31.4B$69.18B30.4B$67.19B30.4B$67.2BC15B30.4B$66.3BCBC4B.7B6.2A22.
4B$67.2B3C4B2.7B3.2B2AB20.4B$66.5BC4B2.9B.4B20.4B$65.10B4.15B17.4B$
64.4B10.16B16.4B$63.4B11.16B15.4B$62.4B12.17B13.4B$61.4B13.18B11.4B$
60.4B13.20B9.4B$59.4B15.19B8.4B$58.4B16.19B7.4B$43.A13.4B18.17B7.4B$
43.3A10.4B20.18B4.4B$46.A8.4B25.15B2.4B$45.2A7.4B26.20B$45.5B3.4B26.
20B3.2A$47.3B2.4B25.16B.4B4.A$34.2A.2A7.9B26.21B.BA.A$34.2A.A8.8B26.
2A20B.B2A$37.A.B3.10B27.2A22B$37.3AB.2B2A7B28.B.21B$35.2A2.BA3B2A7B
30.21B$34.A2.4A12B31.19B$34.2A.A.2B3.7B.B2A30.16B$35.A2.3AB2.7B.BA.A
30.9B.5B$35.A5.A4.4B5.A32.7B3.4B$36.5A5.4B5.2A31.6B5.4B$38.A8.4B37.6B
6.4B$48.4B36.5B8.4B8.A$49.4B34.6B2.2A5.4B5.5A$50.4B33.6B3.A5.4B4.A5.A
$51.4B33.5B3.A.AB.7B2.B3A2.A$52.4B32.3B6.2AB.7B3.2B.A.2A$53.4B29.2AB
10.12B4A2.A$54.4B27.A.AB10.7B2A3BAB2.2A$55.4B26.A13.7B2A2B.B3A$56.4B
24.2A13.10B3.B.A$57.4B37.8B8.A.2A$58.4B35.9B7.2A.2A$59.4B33.4B2.3B$
60.4B31.4B3.5B$61.4B29.4B7.2A$62.4B27.4B8.A$63.4B25.4B10.3A$64.4B23.
4B13.A$65.4B21.4B$66.4B19.4B$67.4B10.A6.4B$68.4B7.3A5.4B$69.4B5.A7.4B
$70.4B4.2A5.4B$71.9B4.4B$72.6B5.4B$72.8B2.4B$70.15B$70.14B$70.13B$68.
2AB.10B$67.A.AB3.B2A3B$67.A6.B2A3B$66.2A6.4B$75.3B$76.2B.BA$75.B2ABA.
A$74.BABABA.A$72.A2.A.A.A.2A$72.4A.2A2.A$76.A4.A$72.2A2.A.3A$72.2A3.
2A!
Re: Keeping track of dirty conduits
Posted: January 13th, 2024, 12:41 am
by confocaloid
galumpher engineering
I know
one potentially working way to move the block back, but that does not seem to work here (how to get rid of the first natural glider?), and the output Herschel is in an inconvenient direction (unclear how to get rid of either the FNG or the SW10T108 glider). Other than that, it works one time:
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x = 63, y = 45, rule = LifeHistory
11.4B2.A$12.6BA$13.3B3AB$14.7B$15.7B7.2A$16.7B7.A$17.7B4.A9.2A4.2A$
18.7B3.2A7.B2A2B.B2AB$19.7B12.4B.3B6.2A$20.7B9.6B2.B6.A.A3.A$21.7B4.
2A.12B4.A4.A.A$22.7B3.A.A13B2.2A4.A.A$23.7B3.A14B2.B4.2A.3A$24.7B4.
16B5.B4.A$25.7B3.17B2.B2AB3A$8.2A16.7B.21B2A.A$7.B2AB16.28B$8.3B17.
27B$9.B19.26B$7.5B18.26B.2B$6.2B3DB11.A6.11B.5B.12B$6.3BD2B10.A.A4.
31B.B$6.B3D2B2.3C5.BA2B3.32B2A$6.6B4.C6.2B5.31B2A$6.6B3.3C2.4B3.B2.
32B$6.6B8.5B.36B$7.5B3.2B2.5B.35B$7.53B$2A4.55B$.A4.3B2D49B$.A.AB2.2B
2D13B2C11B.13B.B.6B$2.2AB.18B2C11B.5B2A6B4.2B$4.5B2C4B.20B3.4B2A2.3B$
4.5B2C5B.6B2.11B2.7B$5.11B4.2B5.7B4.5B$7.8B11.6B6.4B$9.5B10.2AB11.2B
2AB$10.6B7.A.AB13.2A$14.2A.A5.A$14.2AB3A2.2A$15.B4.A$14.2A.3A$15.A.A$
15.A.A$16.A!
Re: Keeping track of dirty conduits
Posted: January 15th, 2024, 2:24 pm
by Tawal
Here's some dirties H-to-G :
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x = 306, y = 109, rule = LifeHistory
11$41.2A68.2A68.2A68.2A$41.A69.A69.A69.A$38.A4.A2.2A60.A4.A2.2A60.A4.
A2.2A60.A4.A2.2A$38.5A.A2.A60.5A.A2.A60.5A.A2.A60.5A.A2.A$24.2A16.B.
2A.A.2A43.2A16.B.2A.A.2A43.2A16.B.2A.A.2A43.2A16.B.2A.A.2A$25.A10.4AB
3AB2.A2.A44.A10.4AB3AB2.A2.A44.A10.4AB3AB2.A2.A44.A10.4AB3AB2.A2.A$
25.A.AB7.A2.A.A3B2A.A46.A.AB7.A2.A.A3B2A.A46.A.AB7.A2.A.A3B2A.A46.A.A
B7.A2.A.A3B2A.A$26.2AB.3B4.7B2.A.2A46.2AB.3B4.7B2.A.2A46.2AB.3B4.7B2.
A.2A46.2AB.3B4.7B2.A.2A$28.7B3.7B.A51.7B3.7B.A51.7B3.7B.A51.7B3.7B.A$
28.16B.2A51.16B.2A51.16B.2A51.16B.2A$29.15B55.15B55.15B55.15B$28.16B
54.16B54.16B54.16B$26.18B52.18B52.18B52.18B$24.19B51.19B51.19B51.19B$
24.2BE15B52.2BE15B52.2BE15B52.2BE15B$23.3BEBE4B.7B6.2C44.3BEBE4B.7B6.
2C44.3BEBE4B.7B6.2C44.3BEBE4B.7B6.2C$24.2B3E4B2.7B3.2B2CB44.2B3E4B2.
7B3.2B2CB44.2B3E4B2.7B3.2B2CB44.2B3E4B2.7B3.2B2CB$23.5BE4B2.9B.4B44.
5BE4B2.9B.4B44.5BE4B2.9B.4B44.5BE4B2.9B.4B$22.10B4.15B41.10B4.15B41.
10B4.15B41.10B4.15B$21.4B10.16B40.4B10.16B40.4B10.16B40.4B10.16B$21.
3B11.16B40.3B11.16B40.3B11.9B2D5B40.3B11.16B$19.4B12.17B37.4B12.17B
37.4B12.9B2D6B37.4B12.17B$19.2CB13.18B36.2CB13.18B36.2CB13.18B36.2CB
13.18B$20.C13.20B36.C13.20B36.C13.20B36.C13.20B$17.3C15.8BD10B33.3C
15.19B33.3C15.10BD8B33.3C7.C7.19B$17.C17.7BDBD9B33.C17.19B33.C17.9BDB
D7B33.C9.3C5.19B$36.6B2D9B53.17B53.8BDBD6B47.C5.17B$37.17B53.17B51.4B
2D4BD8B45.2C6.17B$39.16B56.6B3D4B39.C11.4B2D13B45.5B6.14B$37.B2D14B.
2B54.10B.B2C38.3C7.21B47.3B2.B4.13B$36.BD2BD17B52.11B.BC.C40.C6.20B
47.23B$37.B2D18B53.9B5.C39.2C.B4.22B45.25B$37.21B53.11B3.2C38.6B2.22B
45.25B$36.5BD17B52.12B44.28B45.25B$36.5BD17B52.12B43.2C28B43.27B$36.
5BD17B51.11BDBD42.2C27B44.16B2D8B$34.2CB.19B.B2C47.2CB.10B2D43.B.26B
44.16B2D8B$33.C.CB2.18B.BC.C45.C.CB3.8BD47.23B44.2CB.22B$33.C5.12B.4B
5.C45.C9.4B50.21B44.C.CB.21B$32.2C6.9B3.4B5.2C43.2C10.B54.19B44.C4.
21B$42.6B5.4B116.15B2.B44.2C3.8B.13B$42.4B8.4B116.3B2.7B53.4B2.B.B2.
11B$43.2B10.4B115.3B.7B53.4B2.3B3.11B$56.4B115.B.4B56.4B3.B2CB2.11B$
57.4B115.4B56.4B5.2C4.8B$58.4B113.4B56.4B14.6B$59.4B111.4B56.4B17.4B$
60.4B109.4B56.4B16.5B$61.4B107.4B56.4B17.2C$62.4B105.4B56.4B19.C$63.
4B103.4B56.4B17.3C$64.4B101.DBDB56.4B18.C$65.4B100.2DB56.4B$66.3BD
100.D56.4B$67.3BD155.4B$68.3D154.4B$224.4B$223.4B$222.4B$221.4B$220.
4B$219.4B$218.4B$217.4B$216.D3B$216.DBD$216.2D!
Edit:
Error corrected in the third.
Edit2:
Here's a dirty H-to-R.
But not sure the R output can be well get out.
I show the H-to-R connected to RF28B, but the B output hasn't a good clearance.
Perhaps someone can do a better connection and find a way to cleanup ...
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x = 132, y = 84, rule = LifeHistory
13$34.2A58.2A$34.A59.A$31.A4.A2.2A50.A4.A2.2A$31.5A.A2.A50.5A.A2.A$
17.2A16.B.2A.A.2A33.2A16.B.2A.A.2A$18.A10.4AB3AB2.A2.A34.A10.4AB3AB2.
A2.A$18.A.AB7.A2.A.A3B2A.A36.A.AB7.A2.A.A3B2A.A$19.2AB.3B4.7B2.A.2A
36.2AB.3B4.7B2.A.2A$21.7B3.7B.A41.7B3.7B.A$21.16B.2A41.16B.2A$22.15B
45.15B$21.16B44.16B$19.18B42.18B$17.19B41.19B$17.2BE15B42.2BE15B$16.
3BEBE4B.7B6.2C34.3BEBE4B.7B6.2C$17.2B3E4B2.7B3.2B2CB34.2B3E4B2.7B3.2B
2CB$16.5BE4B2.9B.4B34.5BE4B2.9B.4B$15.10B4.15B31.10B4.15B$14.4B10.16B
30.4B10.16B$14.3B11.16B30.3B11.16B$12.4B12.17B27.4B12.17B$12.2CB13.
18B26.2CB13.18B$13.C13.20B26.C13.20B$10.3C15.19B23.3C15.19B$10.C17.
19B23.C17.19B$29.17B43.17B$30.15B2D43.15B2D$34.11B2D47.11B2D$25.2A7.
12B39.2A7.12B$26.A6.8B.B43.A6.8B.B$26.A.AB4.9B3.B39.A.AB4.9B3.B$27.2A
B.14B2DB10.2A27.2AB.14B2DB10.2A$29.16B2D3B7.A2.A28.16B2D3B7.A2.A$29.
22B6.A.A2.A26.22B6.A.A2.A$29.22B5.2A.4A26.22B5.2A.4A$29.21B5.B33.21B
5.B$28.28B4A.2A25.28B4A.2A$26.30BA2.A.A24.30BA2.A.A$26.30B2.A2.A24.
30B2.A2.A$27.29B3.2A26.29B3.2A$30.25B35.25B$27.B2.22B35.B2.22B$26.3B.
20B36.3B.20B$25.2C8BD14B35.2C23B$25.2C8B2D12B36.2C8BD10BD2B$26.B.6B2D
11B39.B.7B2D10BD$30.14B45.5B2D11B2D$32.11B45.18B2D$34.8B47.17BD$34.7B
47.18B$36.4B48.13B2.B$37.2B49.11B$86.2AB.8B$85.A.AB2.5B$85.A6.5B$84.
2A4.5B.B2A$90.2A4.BA.A$91.A7.A$88.3A8.2A$88.A!
Re: Keeping track of dirty conduits
Posted: January 29th, 2024, 12:33 pm
by Tawal
After 2 weeks, is it a double post ?
Here's some dirties dependent H to nG (n=1,2,3).
The 3rd in the 1rst row is solved here :
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1849&p=176832#p176832
The preH-to-LongBoat+G is interesting because the LongBoat can be used in 3 ways (2x180°+1x90°).
The others are almost interesting to because they leave only 1 still life.
So they can be considered like SL-Factories + Gs
Code: Select all
x = 173, y = 99, rule = LifeHistory
7$88.B58.A$30.B56.3B57.3A$29.3B53.6B8.2B49.A$27.6B8.2B36.4B2.7B3.7B
47.2A6.2B$21.4B2.7B3.7B33.E25B46.10B$19.E25B31.2B2E17B3D4B47.9B$18.2B
2E17B2D5B30.3B2E18BD4B.3B35.B5.12B$18.3B2E15BDBD5B.3B27.4BE2B2C12BD9B
34.3B3.9B2D2B$19.4BE2B2C12BD9B26.5E3B2C21B2A31.6B2.4B2D3B2D3B$18.5E3B
2C21B2A25.3BE25B.B2A25.4B2.7B2.3B2D8B$18.3BE25B.B2A30.23B3.B24.E30B$
23.23B3.B33.B2.6B2D10B27.2B2E28B$25.B2.7BD10B40.6B2D9B28.3B2E28B$28.
6BDBD8B41.16B30.4BE2B2C23B$28.7BDBD6B42.6B2.10B27.5E3B2C21B$28.6B2.2D
7B42.5B3.9B27.3BE28B$29.5B3.8B42.4B5.9B31.26B$29.4B6.5B52.6B.B2A32.B
2.19B$41.B54.6B.BA.A33.19B$40.3B51.2AB.3B5.A32.21B$40.B2AB49.A.AB.3B
5.2A30.9B2.11B$41.2A50.A5.B37.4B.5B2.11B$92.2A42.4B2.4B3.9B.B2A$135.
4B11.8B.BA.A$134.4B11.9B4.A$133.4B11.9B5.2A$132.4B11.4B2.3B$131.4B11.
4B4.B$130.4B11.4B$129.4B11.4B$128.4B11.DBDB$127.4B12.2DB$126.D3B14.D$
125.D3B$125.3D21$41.2A$40.B2AB$41.2B72.A$31.B8.2B2.2B69.3A6.B2.B4.A$
30.3B6.5B3D71.A5.3B3.3A$28.6B4.8BD70.2A3.B.2B3.A$22.4B2.7B3.7BD2B64.B
4.3B.3B2DB2.2A$20.E29B61.3B5.4BD2BD4B$19.2B2E28B.B56.6B3.6B2D3B$19.3B
2E28B2A49.4B2.7B2.14B$20.4BE2B2C21B.B2A47.E27BD2B$19.5E3B2C21B2.B47.
2B2E24BD3B$19.3BE28B49.3B2E23B3D2B$24.22B2D2B51.4BE2B2C23B$26.B2.17B
2D52.5E3B2C21B$28.19B53.3BE28B$27.21B57.26B$26.D8B2.11B59.B2.16BD2B$
26.DBD.5B2.11B61.15B2D2B$26.2D2.4B3.9B.B2A58.17B2D2B$39.7B.BA.A56.D8B
2.11B$39.7B4.A56.DBD.5B2.11B$40.5B5.2A55.2D2.4B3.9B.B2A$41.3B76.7B.BA
.A$42.B77.7B4.A$121.5B5.2A$122.3B$123.B!
Re: Keeping track of dirty conduits
Posted: February 5th, 2024, 8:33 pm
by Tawal
Heu ... Am I alone on this thread ?
Here is a dirty HFx140H with an annoying Behive :
Code: Select all
x = 74, y = 54, rule = LifeHistory
4$15.2A.2A$16.A.A$11.2A.A5.A.2A$10.A.A.2A3.2A.A.A$9.A2.B2.BA.AB2.B2.A
$9.7AB.B7A$13.3B.B.3B$11.3AB.3B.B3A$10.A.BA3BA3BAB.A$10.2A3.BABAB3.2A
$15.BABAB$15.2BA2B$15.2B.2B$13.B.5B$11.9B$11.8B2E$10.2A6BE2BE$10.2AB.
5B2EB$11.B2.8B$14.8B3.2B$15.12B$15.14B$15.15B$13.18B$11.21B$11.2BE19B
$10.3BEBE17B$11.2B3E15BD4B2.B$10.5BE14BDBD10B.B$9.10B.10BDBD17B$8.4B
9.10BD7BE11BD3.2C$7.4B10.17BEBE8B3DB2.2C$6.4B12.17BE9BDBD$5.B2AB13.
27BD$5.B.A16.14B4.2B2.2B$4.3A18.13B$4.A19.11B$24.10B$22.9B.B$22.2A$
23.A$20.3A$20.A!
And a dirty H-to-2G with an annoying Blinker :
Code: Select all
x = 43, y = 53, rule = LifeHistory
6$13.2A.2A$14.A.A$9.2A.A5.A.2A$8.A.A.2A3.2A.A.A$7.A2.B2.BA.AB2.B2.A$
7.7AB.B7A$11.3B.B.3B$9.3AB.3B.B3A$8.A.BA3BA3BAB.A$8.2A3.BABAB3.2A$13.
BABAB$13.2BA2B$13.2B.2B$11.B.5B$9.9B$9.8B2E$8.2A6BE2BE$8.2AB.5B2EB$9.
B2.8B$12.8B3.2B$13.12B$13.14B$13.15B$11.18B$9.21B$9.2BE19B$8.3BEBE17B
$9.2B3E17B$8.5BE20B$7.10B.16B.BA$6.4B9.16BA.A$5.4B11.3BD9B.2BA$4.4B
12.3BD9B2.B$3.B2AB14.2BD.7BD$3.B.A16.8BDBD$2.3A18.6B2.2D$2.A20.6B$21.
2AB.4B$20.A.AB.4B$20.A5.3BD$19.2A6.DBD$28.2D!
Edit:
The Fx140 is almost a Behive Stopper :
Code: Select all
x = 74, y = 78, rule = LifeHistory
10$26.2A.2A$27.A.A$22.2A.A5.A.2A$21.A.A.2A3.2A.A.A$20.A2.B2.BA.AB2.B
2.A$20.7AB.B7A$24.3B.B.3B$22.3AB.3B.B3A$21.A.BA3BA3BAB.A$21.2A3.BABAB
3.2A$26.BABAB$26.2BA2B$26.2B.2B$24.B.5B$22.9B$22.8B2E$21.2A6BE2BE$21.
2AB.5B2EB$22.B2.8B$25.8B3.2B$26.12B$26.14B$26.15B$24.18B$22.21B$22.2B
E19B$21.3BEBE17B$22.2B3E15BD4B2.B$21.5BE14BDBD10B.B$20.10B.10BDBD17B$
19.4B9.B2E7BD7BE11BD3.2C$18.4B10.EBE14BEBE8B3DB2.2C$17.4B13.E15BE9BDB
D$16.B2AB14.26BD$16.B.A16.14B4.2B2.2B$15.3A18.13B$15.A19.11B$35.10B$
33.9B.B$33.2A$34.A$31.3A$31.A19$2.2E$3.2E$2.E!
Re: Keeping track of dirty conduits
Posted: February 6th, 2024, 1:15 am
by confocaloid
Tawal wrote: February 5th, 2024, 8:33 pm
Here is a dirty HFx140H with an annoying Behive :
Code: Select all
x = 74, y = 54, rule = LifeHistory
And a dirty H-to-2G with an annoying Blinker :
Code: Select all
x = 43, y = 53, rule = LifeHistory
They are somewhat less annoying since the big catalyst can be replaced with a Spartan constellation
viewtopic.php?p=167364#p167371
Tawal wrote: February 5th, 2024, 8:33 pm
Edit:
The Fx140 is almost a Behive Stopper :
Code: Select all
x = 74, y = 78, rule = LifeHistory
Why "almost"? I think it is already a working glider stopper, especially in the Spartan form:
Code: Select all
#C Prefixed with Fx77; the big catalyst is replaced by a Spartan catalyst from https://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=174012#p174012
x = 78, y = 41, rule = LifeHistory
26.A$24.3A10.2A$A22.A12.B2AB5.2A$3A20.2A12.3B5.A$3.A17.4B13.B3.BA.A$
2.2A16.3B11.7B.B2A$2.4B14.4B9.10B$4.3B12.5B9.7B2EB$4.4B11.6B8.6BE2BE$
5.10B2.8B6.2AB.5B2EB$6.5BC14B4.A.AB.8B$7.2B3C13B5.A4.8B3.2B$6.3BCBC4B
.7B5.2A5.12B$7.2BC15B11.14B$7.18B11.15B$9.17B8.18B$11.15B.2B2.22B$12.
22BD19B$12.8B.13BDBD17B$10.8B3.2B2E9B3D15BE4B2.B$10.2A3.B5.2B2E11BD
14BEBE10B.B$11.A10.18B.10BEBE17B$8.3A12.B.3B.4B9.10BE7BE11BD3.2C$8.A
20.3B10.17BEBE8B3DB2.2C$27.4B12.17BE9BDBD$27.2A14.27BD$28.A16.14B4.2B
2.2B$25.3A18.13B$25.A19.11B$45.10B$43.9B.B$43.2A$33.3A8.A$35.A5.3A$
34.A6.A4$27.3A$29.A$28.A!
here is some odd potentially-useless contraption. The beehive is automatically cleaned by the NW glider, unless it is cleaned earlier in some other way, in which case the NW glider escapes:
Code: Select all
x = 99, y = 53, rule = LifeHistory
28.A$29.A$27.3A$79.2A$78.B2A2B3.2A$79.4B2.B2AB$34.A6.A33.B.6B3.2B$35.
A5.3A29.10B2.2B$33.3A8.A28.11B2A2B$43.2A27.12B2A3B.B$43.9B.B18.18B2A$
45.10B18.15B.B2A$25.A19.11B16.15B3.B$25.3A18.13B11.17B$28.A16.14B4.2B
2.19B$27.2A14.27BD15B$27.4B12.17BE9BDBD4B.7B$8.A20.3B10.17BEBE8B3D4BC
.6B$8.3A12.B.3B.4B9.10BE7BE11BD5B.7B$11.A10.18B.10BEBE25B.6B$10.2A3.B
5.2B2E11BD14BEBE10B.4B7.9B$10.8B3.2B2E9B3D15BE4B2.B5.3B9.8B$12.8B.13B
DBD17B24.8B$12.22BD19B25.7B8.A$11.15B.2B2.23B26.6B6.3A$9.17B8.21B25.
2B3D2B4.A$7.18B11.15B.4B24.2BD4B4.2A$7.2BC15B11.14B3.4B23.B3D4B.4B$6.
3BCBC4B.7B5.2A5.12B6.4B22.11B$7.2B3C13B5.A4.8B3.2B7.4B21.12B$6.5BC14B
4.A.AB.8B13.4B20.12B$5.10B2.8B6.2AB.5B2EB14.4B20.11B$4.4B11.6B8.6BE2B
E10.4B.4B22.7B$4.3B12.5B9.7B2EB16.4B12.B7.8B$2.4B14.4B9.10B17.4B9.7B.
9B$2.2A16.3B11.7B.B2A6.2A8.4B7.18B2.2A$3.A17.4B13.B3.BA.A6.A9.4B5.19B
.B.A$3A20.2A12.3B5.A3.3A11.4B4.21B.A.2A$A22.A12.B2AB5.2A2.A14.4B3.21B
2A.A$24.3A10.2A26.4B2.21B.B.A$26.A39.17B.8B2A.A.2A$61.2A4.15B3.8BABA
2.A$61.A.A2.13B7.7BA2.A$63.A2.13B11.B.2B2A$63.2A15B4.A4.A2.A.A$61.2A
2.14B3.3A4.4A3.A$60.A2.4AB3.9B.A11.4A$61.2A2.BAB4.9B.A8.2A$63.2A7.8B.
2A8.A2.A$63.A8.7B14.2A$65.A6.6B$64.2A6.5B$73.3B!