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Any interesting B1e rules?

Posted: December 16th, 2020, 1:51 pm
by hotdogPi
From what I understand, B1e is like B2a: everything will explode unless carefully engineered not to. (B1c will explode no matter what.) However, we know of several interesting B2a rules, the most well-known probably being Seeds. Are there any B1e rules where we know several nontrivial non-chaotic patterns?

(I'm saying nontrivial because some rules, like B1e/S23, allow creating hollow boxes, and anything inside them is guaranteed not to explode.)

Re: Any interesting B1e rules?

Posted: December 16th, 2020, 1:54 pm
by Schiaparelliorbust
hotdogPi wrote: December 16th, 2020, 1:51 pm From what I understand, B1e is like B2a: everything will explode unless carefully engineered not to. (B1c will explode no matter what.) However, we know of several interesting B2a rules, the most well-known probably being Seeds. Are there any B1e rules where we know several nontrivial non-chaotic patterns?

(I'm saying nontrivial because some rules, like B1e/S23, allow creating hollow boxes, and anything inside them is guaranteed not to explode.)
Moosey wrote: November 2nd, 2020, 12:56 pm the weirdest b1e rule I've ever devised:

this takes 175 generations to create a leftward front:

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x = 2, y = 3, rule = B1e2in3ae4ajqtwz5ijnqy6-kn78/S012-i3-a4-ew5-ci6-ei78
o$2o$o!
additionally the wealth of c spaceships reminds of a b2a generations rule:

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x = 31, y = 47, rule = B1e2in3ae4ajqtwz5ijnqy6-kn78/S012-i3-a4-ew5-ci6-ei78
26b2o$26bobo$27b2o6$27b2o$27b2o$3b2o23bo$2b3o$3b2o2$28b2o$28bobo$3b2o
24b2o$2b3o5$8b3o$9b4o$11b2o7$b4o$5ob2o$2b7o2b4o$9o2b4o4b2o$b18obo$2b
21o$3b11ob2o2b4o$b6o4b2o8b2o$6o$b2o4$5b2o2b2o$4b7o$3b3o!

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x = 31, y = 13, rule = B1e2in3ae4ajqtwz5ijnqy6-kn78/S012-i3-a4-ew5-ci6-ei78
2b4o$b5o$11o$b11ob2o2b2o$2b22o$3b21o$5b26o$6b24o$7b23o$8b22o$9b8o3b2o$
10b6o$11b2o!
there is a large quantity of still lives with interesting collisions w/ spaceships, here are but a few of the probably infinite quantity

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x = 59, y = 44, rule = B1e2in3ae4ajqtwz5ijnqy6-kn78/S012-i3-a4-ew5-ci6-ei78
56b2o$24b2o30b2o$24b2o31bo$2o23bo$2o10b2o$bo10b2o$13bo$43b2o$42bobo$b
2o22b3o14b2o13b2o$bobo9b2o9bobobo26b2obo$bobo9bobo8b2ob2o26bobo$2b2o
10b2o8bobobo27b2o$25b3o5$b2o$bob2o8b2o$bob2o7b2obo$2b2o10b2o17$3b2o$2b
obo$bobobo$b2ob2o$bobobo$2b3o!
cap synthesis

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x = 17, y = 21, rule = B1e2in3ae4ajqtwz5ijnqy6-kn78/S012-i3-a4-ew5-ci6-ei78
2o$3o$15b2o$14b3o11$11bo$10b2o$10b2o2$6bo$5b2o$5b2o!
ship synthesis

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x = 17, y = 4, rule = B1e2in3ae4ajqtwz5ijnqy6-kn78/S012-i3-a4-ew5-ci6-ei78
2o$3o$15b2o$14b3o!
cap op

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x = 4, y = 12, rule = B1e2in3ae4ajqtwz5ijnqy6-kn78/S012-i3-a4-ew5-ci6-ei78
2b2o$2b2o$2bo7$4o$o2bo$b2o!
p sure there are infinitely many sls

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x = 15, y = 16, rule = B1e2in3ae4ajqtwz5ijnqy6-kn78/S012-i3-a4-ew5-ci6-ei78
4b2o3b2o$4bobobobo$5b2ob2o2$4bo2bo2bo$4bo2bo2bo$b13o$ob11obo$ob11obo$b
13o$4bo2bo2bo$4bo2bo2bo2$5b2ob2o$4bobobobo$4b2o3b2o!
what:

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x = 17, y = 16, rule = B1e2in3ae4ajqtwz5ijnqy6-kn78/S012-i3-a4-ew5-ci6-ei78
2o4b2o3b2o$2o4bobobobo$o6b2ob2o2$6bo2bo2bo$6bo2bo2bo$3b13o$2bob11obo$
2bob11obo$3b13o$6bo2bo2bo$6bo2bo2bo2$o6b2ob2o$2o4bobobobo$2o4b2o3b2o!
wonky wick

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x = 245, y = 8, rule = B1e2in3ae4ajqtwz5ijnqy6-kn78/S012-i3-a4-ew5-ci6-ei78
b2o4b2o2b6o4b2o2b2o4b2o2b6o4b2o2b2o4b2o2b6o4b2o2b2o4b2o2b6o4b2o2b2o4b
2o2b6o4b2o2b2o4b2o2b6o4b2o2b2o4b2o2b6o4b2o2b2o4b2o2b6o4b2o2b2o4b2o2b6o
4b2o2b2o4b2o2b6o4b2o2b2o$b3o2b17o2b3o2b17o2b3o2b17o2b3o2b17o2b3o2b17o
2b3o2b17o2b3o2b17o2b3o2b17o2b3o2b17o2b3o2b17o2b3o$245o$245o$245o$245o$
b3o2b17o2b3o2b17o2b3o2b17o2b3o2b17o2b3o2b17o2b3o2b17o2b3o2b17o2b3o2b
17o2b3o2b17o2b3o2b17o2b3o$b2o4b2o2b6o4b2o2b2o4b2o2b6o4b2o2b2o4b2o2b6o
4b2o2b2o4b2o2b6o4b2o2b2o4b2o2b6o4b2o2b2o4b2o2b6o4b2o2b2o4b2o2b6o4b2o2b
2o4b2o2b6o4b2o2b2o4b2o2b6o4b2o2b2o4b2o2b6o4b2o2b2o!
bubblegum wrote: November 24th, 2020, 2:28 am Another fluid B1e rule.
Here's a small section of a soup evolved to show this rule's typical dynamics (vastly different and yet similar to Moosey's).

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x = 52, y = 52, rule = B1e2in3ae4ajz5aij6aci78/S12-ci3ejnr4ajknrtz5-i678
5bo$5b2o$5b2o3$5bobo$4b2obo$4b3o2bo$5b5o$5b5o$5b5obobo$5bobob3obo$5b8o
4bo$5b9o3b2o$5b9o3b2o$2b2ob8obo5bo$2b10o3bo4b2o$b13obobob3o$15o2bob2o$
2ob13o3b2o$2o3b11o2bobo$3o2b11ob3o4bo$15ob3o5b2o$21o2b4o$21o2b4o2bo$
26o3b2o$9ob7ob8o3b2o$3ob5ob16o$o2bo2b2o4b9ob4o$2o3bo4b14o$4b2obo2b14o
8bo$4bob18o8b2o$4bob18o8b3o$5b17o9b5o$4b18o9b6o$2b20o10b6o$2b20o9b8o2b
o$24o6bob11o$17o4b5o2b2o2b7o2bo$17o3bob4o7b6o2bobo$15o5bob6o2bo2b2o9bo
$16ob2o2b7o4b3o3b2ob2o2bo$17o2b11ob10o2b3obo$23o3b19obo$3ob19o4b2o2b2o
2b3o2b4obobo$2o2b19o2bo2b3o5bob2o2bob2o$obob19o2bo2b3o3b2o5bo$3b20o4b
4o12b2o$24o3b5ob2o3b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o$24o3b6obo$22o4b8o$21o2bo2b8o!
While Moosey's has more Day-and-Night-but-with-wickstretchers-galore-style with areas of dead cells that refuse to let the B1e take over, mine sort of simultaneously encourages and discourages B1e growth, creating B1e-style chaoticity that fade into the fluid dynamics of the negative.

The orthogonal corners show standard replicator-bombing of static areas that expand them and feed them chaos which subsides into stability (if the inverse rule were interesting the B1e rule would probably not have any kind of satisfactory dynamics). The SW is boring, the NW shows the criss-cross typical of this rule, the SE shows the nice "void" style of this rule I really like, and there is a spacefiller managing to move at lightspeed through the live-cell barrier, cool. The NE caught my attention drawing rippling banners through the live sea.

i just realised i'm terrible at explaining rules lol EXPERIMENT!

Re: Any interesting B1e rules?

Posted: December 16th, 2020, 2:00 pm
by goldenratio
You might want to see this thread: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=4002
Everything after post 28 is pretty much junk (sorry if that's an insult to the posters) but there's some good stuff before that

Re: Any interesting B1e rules?

Posted: December 16th, 2020, 2:28 pm
by Moosey
I had a generations B1e rule that had all sorts of cool circuitry. No idea where it is now

EDIT: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=4650&p=102648&hilit=xor#p102648

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x = 22, y = 40, rule = 1c2kn3anqry4akqr5aq/1e2e3jk4jrw5j/3
11.2A$11.2A2$2A11.2A$2A11.2A3$11.2A$11.2A4$11.2A$11.2A2$13.2A$13.2A3$
11.2A$11.2A7$8.2A2.2A5.2A$8.2A2.2A5.2A2$8.2A6.2A$8.2A6.2A$2.B2A15.2A$
4.BA14.2A$2.B2A$8.2A$8.2A2$8.2A$8.2A!

Re: Any interesting B1e rules?

Posted: December 16th, 2020, 3:15 pm
by HelicopterCat3
Do B01e rules count?

Re: Any interesting B1e rules?

Posted: December 16th, 2020, 3:51 pm
by Schiaparelliorbust
HelicopterCat3 wrote: December 16th, 2020, 3:15 pm Do B01e rules count?
Nope.

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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B01e23/S23
2b3o4b3o$obo6b3o2b2o$obo2b4o3bobo$2b2o2b2o2bo2b2o$4o2b2o3b2ob2o$3bobob
o3bobo$2obo3bobo2bo$2obo6bo3bo$4ob2ob3obob2o$bo3bo4b2ob3o$ob2o5b2obo2b
o$bo4b4obo$2bob2ob3obob2o$2obobo2bo3b3o$b2o3bobo3b2obo$2b2obobob2obob
2o!

Re: Any interesting B1e rules?

Posted: December 16th, 2020, 6:29 pm
by HelicopterCat3
Schiaparelliorbust wrote: December 16th, 2020, 3:51 pm
HelicopterCat3 wrote: December 16th, 2020, 3:15 pm Do B01e rules count?
Nope.

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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B01e23/S23
2b3o4b3o$obo6b3o2b2o$obo2b4o3bobo$2b2o2b2o2bo2b2o$4o2b2o3b2ob2o$3bobob
o3bobo$2obo3bobo2bo$2obo6bo3bo$4ob2ob3obob2o$bo3bo4b2ob3o$ob2o5b2obo2b
o$bo4b4obo$2bob2ob3obob2o$2obobo2bo3b3o$b2o3bobo3b2obo$2b2obobob2obob
2o!
Alright. I'll get to engineering some then.

Re: Any interesting B1e rules?

Posted: December 16th, 2020, 10:09 pm
by LaundryPizza03
There are 3 closely related B1e rules in Catagolue, one from that other thread: