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Slaves Needed
Posted: December 3rd, 2020, 4:06 pm
by BokaBB
I Need Slaves To Explore My Rules Pi Puffer Life And Traffic Flow And To Make The Komal Language!!!Come To Be Enslaved!!!
Requirements:
You Must Work For Nothing And Do Not Be Rebellious.
You Must Be Able To Apgsearch.
You Must Work.
You Must Not Be Lazy.
You Must Know To Make Languages.
Reward: Nothing,Not Even Food And Water. Only Exploring Is Important,Demands Are Not.
Have A Good Day!
BokaBB(Also Known As Dazed Opsessively - Compulsive Agressive Fool over Fools)
Re: Slaves Needed
Posted: December 3rd, 2020, 9:29 pm
by 83bismuth38
wh- okay what?
Re: Slaves Needed
Posted: December 10th, 2020, 4:12 am
by andrewph33
Problem: almost every country has officially abolished slavery.
Re: Slaves Needed
Posted: December 10th, 2020, 4:23 am
by toroidalet
Further problem: even though I am not currently a black person, on their behalf I hereby find using the term "slave" to be offensive.
Also, "slave" comes from the Latin word for Slav ("Slavus"; I am not making this up), and so by using it you are insulting your ancestors who were enslaved by the Romans.
Re: Slaves Needed
Posted: December 10th, 2020, 4:28 am
by Schiaparelliorbust
toroidalet wrote: December 10th, 2020, 4:23 am
Further problem: even though I am not currently a black person, on their behalf I hereby find using the term "slave" to be offensive.
Also, "slave" comes from the Latin word for Slav ("Slavus"; I am not making this up), and so by using it you are insulting your ancestors who were enslaved by the Romans.
Before I knew who the Slavs were, I thought that it had to do something with slaves. I was right! You should post this on the Fun Facts thread (even though this fact isn't really "fun").
Re: Slaves Needed
Posted: December 10th, 2020, 11:29 am
by MathAndCode
This post characterizes BokaBB's mindset when dealing with other people. The magnitude is greater than the impression that I had of him beforehand, but the direction is the same. This is the main reason why I don't like investigating BokaBB's rules; it's hard for me to enjoy doing something when I feel that I'm only doing it because I'm someone else's servant.
Re: Slaves Needed
Posted: December 10th, 2020, 12:39 pm
by Moosey
Schiaparelliorbust wrote: December 10th, 2020, 4:28 am
toroidalet wrote: December 10th, 2020, 4:23 am
Further problem: even though I am not currently a black person, on their behalf I hereby find using the term "slave" to be offensive.
Also, "slave" comes from the Latin word for Slav ("Slavus"; I am not making this up), and so by using it you are insulting your ancestors who were enslaved by the Romans.
Before I knew who the Slavs were, I thought that it had to do something with slaves. I was right! You should post this on the Fun Facts thread (even though this fact isn't really "fun").
Miserable Morsels coming to a thread near you
Re: Slaves Needed
Posted: December 10th, 2020, 1:26 pm
by BokaBB
MathAndCode wrote: December 10th, 2020, 11:29 am
This post characterizes BokaBB's mindset when dealing with other people. The magnitude is greater than the impression that I had of him beforehand, but the direction is the same. This is the main reason why I don't like investigating BokaBB's rules; it's hard for me to enjoy doing something when I feel that I'm only doing it because I'm someone else's servant.
This is a joke.
I got sad for a reason....
Tenth Commandment of God(note:I translated it):
10. You shall not covet anything that belongs to your neighbour(you are kind of my neighbours here).
Have a good day!
BokaBB
Re: Slaves Needed
Posted: December 11th, 2020, 7:06 am
by Hunting
BokaBB wrote: December 10th, 2020, 1:26 pm
MathAndCode wrote: December 10th, 2020, 11:29 am
This post characterizes BokaBB's mindset when dealing with other people. The magnitude is greater than the impression that I had of him beforehand, but the direction is the same. This is the main reason why I don't like investigating BokaBB's rules; it's hard for me to enjoy doing something when I feel that I'm only doing it because I'm someone else's servant.
This is a joke.
I got sad for a reason....
Tenth Commandment of God(note:I translated it):
10. You shall not covet anything that belongs to your neighbour(you are kind of my neighbours here).
Have a good day!
BokaBB
Point is, when we come to academic stuff, there's no such thing as "my/your discovery/rule". That's the same for your language. I'm officially blocking you.
Re: Slaves Needed
Posted: December 11th, 2020, 10:04 am
by wwei23
Why shouldn't we dive into our rules headfirst? That's what I do with Symbiosis, and it works. Maybe it would work on Pi Puffer Life and Traffic Flow.
Re: Slaves Needed
Posted: December 11th, 2020, 10:05 am
by Hunting
wwei23 wrote: December 11th, 2020, 10:04 am
Why shouldn't we dive into our rules headfirst? That's what I do with Symbiosis, and it works. Maybe it would work on Pi Puffer Life and Traffic Flow.
You can look at the discussions below this thread first to find out what is the problem.
Re: Slaves Needed
Posted: December 11th, 2020, 10:06 am
by wwei23
Hunting wrote: December 11th, 2020, 10:05 am
You can look at the discussions below this thread first to find out what is the problem.
I don't understand what you mean by that. Clarify more?
Re: Slaves Needed
Posted: December 11th, 2020, 10:06 am
by Schiaparelliorbust
wwei23 wrote: December 11th, 2020, 10:04 am
Why shouldn't we dive into our rules headfirst? That's what I do with Symbiosis, and it works. Maybe it would work on Pi Puffer Life and Traffic Flow.
What do you mean by headfirst? If you mean just manually investigating it, it might work for Symbiosis, but might be harder for others.
Re: Slaves Needed
Posted: December 11th, 2020, 10:10 am
by wwei23
Schiaparelliorbust wrote: December 11th, 2020, 10:06 am
What do you mean by headfirst? If you mean just manually investigating it, it might work for Symbiosis, but might be harder for others.
Not necessarily just manually, but I also mean in terms of pattern creation. Take this P13 gun for example:
Code: Select all
x = 39, y = 47, rule = Symbiosis
27.2B$26.A.A2.B$27.2A.A$29.A$22.2A$22.2A9.2A$27.A5.2A$17.B8.A$5.A12.A
7.3A$6.2B11.A17.A$7.B8.BA.2A9.3A2.A2.B$4.A2B9.B6.A.A4.A4.A.AB$4.A12.A
6.2A5.A$5.B7.B10.A10.2A$14.2B21.B$13.2B5.2A$8.2B10.2A$8.2B.A$7.A.A2B$
7.B2.A.A13.2A5.B.2A$8.A10.B.B4.3A4.2A2.A$9.3A8.2B3.A.2A3.2A3.AB$15.2A
3.B4.3A2.3A2.3A$15.2A9.A5.2A4.A$4.2A27.5A$4.2A6.A20.B.A$10.A.A5.A2.A
4.B$11.2A9.A4.2B$.A5.A10.A3.A3.2B$B6.2A10.4A$B2A3.A.A$3.A$2.A8.A$.B8.
2A9.4A$10.A.A7.6A$5.2A11.BA.4A.AB$5.2A12.A6.A$11.2A6.A6.A$9.A.3A4.BA.
A2.A.AB$9.A.A2.B4.A.A2.A.A$10.2B7.A.A2.A.A$18.BA.A2.A.AB$19.A6.A$19.A
6.A$18.BA.4A.AB$20.6A$21.4A!
It's exploration, manual or automated, that gave me all the components to put this together.
However, the components came from multiple people, including myself.
Re: Slaves Needed
Posted: December 11th, 2020, 10:11 am
by BokaBB
wwei23 wrote: December 11th, 2020, 10:10 am
Schiaparelliorbust wrote: December 11th, 2020, 10:06 am
What do you mean by headfirst? If you mean just manually investigating it, it might work for Symbiosis, but might be harder for others.
Not necessarily just manually, but I also mean in terms of pattern creation. Take this P13 gun for example:
Code: Select all
x = 39, y = 47, rule = Symbiosis
27.2B$26.A.A2.B$27.2A.A$29.A$22.2A$22.2A9.2A$27.A5.2A$17.B8.A$5.A12.A
7.3A$6.2B11.A17.A$7.B8.BA.2A9.3A2.A2.B$4.A2B9.B6.A.A4.A4.A.AB$4.A12.A
6.2A5.A$5.B7.B10.A10.2A$14.2B21.B$13.2B5.2A$8.2B10.2A$8.2B.A$7.A.A2B$
7.B2.A.A13.2A5.B.2A$8.A10.B.B4.3A4.2A2.A$9.3A8.2B3.A.2A3.2A3.AB$15.2A
3.B4.3A2.3A2.3A$15.2A9.A5.2A4.A$4.2A27.5A$4.2A6.A20.B.A$10.A.A5.A2.A
4.B$11.2A9.A4.2B$.A5.A10.A3.A3.2B$B6.2A10.4A$B2A3.A.A$3.A$2.A8.A$.B8.
2A9.4A$10.A.A7.6A$5.2A11.BA.4A.AB$5.2A12.A6.A$11.2A6.A6.A$9.A.3A4.BA.
A2.A.AB$9.A.A2.B4.A.A2.A.A$10.2B7.A.A2.A.A$18.BA.A2.A.AB$19.A6.A$19.A
6.A$18.BA.4A.AB$20.6A$21.4A!
It's exploration, manual or automated, that gave me all the components to put this together.
However, the components came from multiple people, including myself.
What is the price I must pay for some investigation of my rules?I don't know how to install Python and can't apgsearch yet.
Have a good day!
BokaBB
Re: Slaves Needed
Posted: December 11th, 2020, 10:15 am
by wwei23
BokaBB wrote: December 11th, 2020, 10:11 am
What is the price I must pay for some investigation of my rules?I don't know how to install Python and can't apgsearch yet.
Have a good day!
BokaBB
None, if you do it yourself. Python and apgsearch aren't always necessary.
Re: Slaves Needed
Posted: December 11th, 2020, 10:16 am
by Schiaparelliorbust
wwei23 wrote: December 11th, 2020, 10:10 am
Not necessarily just manually, but I also mean in terms of pattern creation. Take this P13 gun for example:
Code: Select all
x = 39, y = 47, rule = Symbiosis
27.2B$26.A.A2.B$27.2A.A$29.A$22.2A$22.2A9.2A$27.A5.2A$17.B8.A$5.A12.A
7.3A$6.2B11.A17.A$7.B8.BA.2A9.3A2.A2.B$4.A2B9.B6.A.A4.A4.A.AB$4.A12.A
6.2A5.A$5.B7.B10.A10.2A$14.2B21.B$13.2B5.2A$8.2B10.2A$8.2B.A$7.A.A2B$
7.B2.A.A13.2A5.B.2A$8.A10.B.B4.3A4.2A2.A$9.3A8.2B3.A.2A3.2A3.AB$15.2A
3.B4.3A2.3A2.3A$15.2A9.A5.2A4.A$4.2A27.5A$4.2A6.A20.B.A$10.A.A5.A2.A
4.B$11.2A9.A4.2B$.A5.A10.A3.A3.2B$B6.2A10.4A$B2A3.A.A$3.A$2.A8.A$.B8.
2A9.4A$10.A.A7.6A$5.2A11.BA.4A.AB$5.2A12.A6.A$11.2A6.A6.A$9.A.3A4.BA.
A2.A.AB$9.A.A2.B4.A.A2.A.A$10.2B7.A.A2.A.A$18.BA.A2.A.AB$19.A6.A$19.A
6.A$18.BA.4A.AB$20.6A$21.4A!
It's exploration, manual or automated, that gave me all the components to put this together.
However, the components came from multiple people, including myself.
That should work many rules, especially Symbiosis, but apgsearching and other search programs are still important. I guess headfirst investigating really is the only way you can investigate Symbiosis, at least for now. It is also much easier to make certain pattern where you don't want certain cells to die. That is still possible in some INT rules, but they are usually very conduity.
Re: Slaves Needed
Posted: December 11th, 2020, 10:18 am
by BokaBB
wwei23 wrote: December 11th, 2020, 10:15 am
BokaBB wrote: December 11th, 2020, 10:11 am
What is the price I must pay for some investigation of my rules?I don't know how to install Python and can't apgsearch yet.
Have a good day!
BokaBB
None, if you do it yourself. Python and apgsearch aren't always necessary.
What do you think under ,,not nesecarry"?
Have a good day!
BokaBB
Re: Slaves Needed
Posted: December 11th, 2020, 10:21 am
by wwei23
I should have made this clearer: Investigate with whatever tools you can.
Re: Slaves Needed
Posted: December 11th, 2020, 10:24 am
by BokaBB
wwei23 wrote: December 11th, 2020, 10:21 am
I should have made this clearer: Investigate with whatever tools you can.
Can you give me some useful links?
Have a good day!
BokaBB
Re: Slaves Needed
Posted: December 11th, 2020, 10:26 am
by wwei23
BokaBB wrote: December 11th, 2020, 10:24 am
Can you give me some useful links?
Have a good day!
BokaBB
https://www.conwaylife.com/wiki/Tutorials/Compiling
Re: Slaves Needed
Posted: December 11th, 2020, 10:29 am
by BokaBB
I will check it.
Can you please see Board And Card Games?
Have a good day!
BokaBB
Re: Slaves Needed
Posted: December 12th, 2020, 4:06 am
by Hunting
wwei23 wrote: December 11th, 2020, 10:06 am
Hunting wrote: December 11th, 2020, 10:05 am
You can look at the discussions below this thread first to find out what is the problem.
I don't understand what you mean by that. Clarify more?
https://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic ... 33#p115346
Re: All this apgsearch stuff: I barely contribute to LeapLife with search program. I failed to find even a single new speed with qfind, not even a new rotor with apgsearch, and Kittyst and the like are really just "manual search speed ups".