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In light of current events, I thought of making a thread on this. This is a thread for CA-related politics only. Please do not put real-life politics into the mix. Above all, be kind and respectful. I really wonder what can come out of this.

NEVER! They are poisoning the academic environment and distracting our already-small-enough group of researchers from serious contribution. I have reported this thread hoping that moderators can lock it.

GUYTU6J wrote: October 19th, 2020, 5:11 am NEVER! They are poisoning the academic environment and distracting our already-small-enough group of researchers from serious contribution. I have reported this thread hoping that moderators can lock it.

I honestly doubt this thread can do any harm at all. Most of the people here are mature. This is the sandbox. This is for non-academic stuff. No offense, but if you say that this thread is distracting us, then say that to the whole sandbox. Please don't get worked up about this.

Edit: Hundredth post!

GUYTU6J wrote: October 19th, 2020, 5:11 am...distracting our already-small-enough group of researchers from serious contribution.

On the other hand, whenever anyone reports a post or asks for maintenance to be done (thread locking, thread moving, etc.) that also takes time away from moderators who might otherwise spend the time on something more useful. The Sandbox was created with the idea that people could kind of self-police and self-moderate there, and leave the "serious contribution" to the main boards.

I'm not exactly sure what CA-related politics is, but maybe this is it. I closed the report. Don't really see any other clear action that needs to be taken here.

dvgrn wrote: October 19th, 2020, 6:22 am

GUYTU6J wrote: October 19th, 2020, 5:11 am...distracting our already-small-enough group of researchers from serious contribution.

On the other hand, whenever anyone reports a post or asks for maintenance to be done (thread locking, thread moving, etc.) that also takes time away from moderators who might otherwise spend the time on something more useful. The Sandbox was created with the idea that people could kind of self-police and self-moderate there, and leave the "serious contribution" to the main boards.

I'm not exactly sure what CA-related politics is, but maybe this is it. I closed the report. Don't really see any other clear action that needs to be taken here.

Thank you! I know it's a silly idea. If things gets out of hand, I will personally ask this thread to be locked.

dvgrn wrote: October 19th, 2020, 6:22 am I'm not exactly sure what CA-related politics is

Running a cellular automaton on a graph where:

• The vertices of the graph are electoral constituencies;
• The edges between vertices represent contiguity;
• The states of the cellular automaton are the different political parties;
• The initial state of each vertex is the first-past-the-post winner of that constituency.

For fairness, you'd want the rule to be symmetric under permuting the different states (such as the Day&Night rule).

calcyman wrote: October 19th, 2020, 7:34 am

dvgrn wrote: October 19th, 2020, 6:22 am I'm not exactly sure what CA-related politics is

Running a cellular automaton on a graph where:

• The vertices of the graph are electoral constituencies;
• The edges between vertices represent contiguity;
• The states of the cellular automaton are the different political parties;
• The initial state of each vertex is the first-past-the-post winner of that constituency.

For fairness, you'd want the rule to be symmetric under permuting the different states (such as the Day&Night rule).

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calcyman wrote: October 19th, 2020, 7:34 am

dvgrn wrote: October 19th, 2020, 6:22 am I'm not exactly sure what CA-related politics is

Running a cellular automaton on a graph where:

• The vertices of the graph are electoral constituencies;
• The edges between vertices represent contiguity;
• The states of the cellular automaton are the different political parties;
• The initial state of each vertex is the first-past-the-post winner of that constituency.

For fairness, you'd want the rule to be symmetric under permuting the different states (such as the Day&Night rule).

Moosey wrote: October 19th, 2020, 7:51 am

calcyman wrote: October 19th, 2020, 7:34 am

dvgrn wrote: October 19th, 2020, 6:22 am I'm not exactly sure what CA-related politics is

Running a cellular automaton on a graph where:

• The vertices of the graph are electoral constituencies;
• The edges between vertices represent contiguity;
• The states of the cellular automaton are the different political parties;
• The initial state of each vertex is the first-past-the-post winner of that constituency.

For fairness, you'd want the rule to be symmetric under permuting the different states (such as the Day&Night rule).

This

What do you mean by "the first-past-the-post winner of that constituency"?

Edit: Looked it up. I understand it.

While I don't think that there is competition between different groups of Life enthusiasts analogous to competition between political parties, I do think that groups of patterns have exhibited a similar trend. For the first several decades of investigated Conway's Game of Life, p30 (and, to a lesser extend, p46) dominated complex patterns and circuitry. That ended when the Herschel conduit revolution made stable Herschel conduits a staple of most complex patterns for the next fifteen or so years. Due to toe discovery of glider reflectors smaller and faster than what Herschel conduits have provided, gliders are gaining a renewed importance, such as in universal construction, although Herschel conduits still maintain some relevance, at least for now, due to the lack of a direct glider splitter.

Breaking news: Dave Greene is facing political blowback among toads, an important group of swing voters, after his opponent unearthed comments in which he appears to claim that toads belong in zoos and get destroyed so much (in the century and two-glider octomino sequences) because they are lazy and stay in the same place instead of getting up.

MathAndCode wrote: November 13th, 2020, 11:14 am Breaking news: Dave Greene is facing political blowback among toads, an important group of swing voters, after his opponent unearthed comments in which he appears to claim that toads belong in zoos and get destroyed so much (in the century and two-glider octomino sequences) because they are lazy and stay in the same place instead of getting up.

In addition, this is bad news for Dave Greene since toads have historically tended to vote for conwaylife moderators

EvinZL wrote: November 13th, 2020, 9:46 pmIn addition, this is bad news for Dave Greene since toads have historically tended to vote for conwaylife moderators

I guess that we'll have to see which state the toads vote in.
Also, I guess that Saka would be dvgrn's opponent.

Saka wrote: February 28th, 2018, 6:01 am

dvgrn, in a stream of LifeWiki edit notes wrote:Would you rather wish on a snippet,
Carry moonbeams home in a tippet,
And be better off than a whippet,
Or would you rather be a toad?
A toad is an animal that sits in the zoo,
And croaks with a period of two,
Spends all its time in the same darn place,
And has a kind of funny-looking face,
But if you write a lot of LifeWiki snippets,
And never take so much as a grocery trip it's,
Likely you'll grow up to be a toad,
If you don't leave your chair and get out on the road,
You might grow up to be a toad.

I expect that dvgrn's statement that toads look funny will also contribute to the backlash among toad voters.

dvgrn has a bad history with toads

Moosey wrote: November 16th, 2020, 6:03 pm dvgrn has a bad history with toads

Yes; it appears that the toads do not like what dvrgn has said about them.

fluffykitty wrote: March 9th, 2018, 12:54 am Am I a toad D:

Unless dvgrn makes up for this with other voters, Saka will win the election.

Unless Calcyman runs

Moosey wrote: November 17th, 2020, 9:51 am Unless Calcyman runs

It is too late in the race for another candidate to join.

MathAndCode wrote: November 17th, 2020, 11:27 am

Moosey wrote: November 17th, 2020, 9:51 am Unless Calcyman runs

It is too late in the race for another candidate to join.

Who ever said that?

Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 17th, 2020, 11:31 amWho ever said that?

(No one. I'm making this up as I go along.)

MathAndCode wrote: November 17th, 2020, 11:49 am (No one. I'm making this up as I go along.)

(I know that, I just think others should be able to run.)
The power of toads is overestimated. There are many more blocks, blinkers, and beehives, though nobody seems to care about them.

Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 17th, 2020, 11:53 amThe power of toads is overestimated. There are many more blocks, blinkers, and beehives, though nobody seems to care about them.

Yes, but toads are important because they are one of the only large groups of swing voters.

MathAndCode wrote: November 17th, 2020, 12:01 pm Yes, but toads are important because they are one of the only large groups of swing voters.

So whoever gets the majority of toad votes gets all their electoral votes? This also means that toad votes are valued more than more common patterns' votes because we are focusing on them more.

MathAndCode wrote: November 17th, 2020, 12:01 pm toads are important because they are one of the only large groups of swing voters.

BREAKING: protesters advocating Bandersnatch lives matter

EvinZL wrote: November 17th, 2020, 12:06 pm

MathAndCode wrote: November 17th, 2020, 12:01 pm toads are important because they are one of the only large groups of swing voters.

BREAKING: protesters advocating Bandersnatch lives matter

GUYTU6J wrote: June 13th, 2020, 5:38 am

wzkchem5 wrote: June 12th, 2020, 11:02 pm

Bullet51 wrote: June 12th, 2020, 4:47 am BLM in Life:

blinker lives matter
block lives matter
boat lives matter
barge lives matter
b-hept lives matter
bipole lives matter

Imagine what a lifeform-supremacist would be like!

And finally there is broth lives matter, which is equivalent to all lives matter.

BREAKING NEWS: Self-constructing giraffepuffer completed while protesters advocating "Bandersnatch lives matter"

Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 17th, 2020, 12:06 pmSo whoever gets the majority of toad votes gets all their electoral votes? This also means that toad votes are valued more than more common patterns' votes because we are focusing on them more.

Blocks, gliders, loaves, and boats tend to mostly vote almost exclusively for dvgrn's party, giving it about 1.002 trillion reliable votes. Blinkers, beehives, ships, and ponds tend to vote almost exclusively for Saka's party, giving it about 1.001 trillion reliable votes. The major groups of swing voters are tubs, toads, beacons, barges, and half-bakeries, which collectively number about 2.8 trillion votes. These groups typically decide elections.

MathAndCode wrote: November 17th, 2020, 12:23 pm Blocks, gliders, loaves, and boats tend to mostly vote almost exclusively for dvgrn's party, giving it about 1.002 trillion reliable votes. Blinkers, beehives, ships, and ponds tend to vote almost exclusively for Saka's party, giving it about 1.001 trillion reliable votes. The major groups of swing voters are tubs, toads, beacons, barges, and half-bakeries, which collectively number about 2.8 trillion votes. These groups typically decide elections.

Are there districts?