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Posted: **September 13th, 2020, 8:24 pm**

exactly what the title says

1. an (interesting) one-state cellular automata solved by wzkchem5
2. a spaceship that goes backwards solved by saka
3. a pattern that will survive forever, yet will never return to any of it's prior positions already solved by toroidalet
4. a rulestring where every pattern goes downwards solved by cvojan
5. a cellular automata that makes music
6. a cellular automata that moves on the beat of a preset song concept by wzkchem5
7. ventrella's "clusters" made in cellular automata
8. a convolutional neural network that creates it's own cellular automatas
9. a cellular automata that does a dance solved by saka and their atrocity of a blob
10. a pattern that looks like an oscillator, spaceship, wickstretcher, etc. but will stabilise after an abnormally short amount of generations already in day & night
11. a self-aware cellular automata concept by wzkchem5
12. a cellular automata but the grid is composed of circles concept by moosey
13. a cellular automata simulation inside of a cellular automata already exists as the 0e0p metacell
14. langton's ant but ants create baby ants behind them which die after a short amount of time, yet still long enough to affect some of the other ant's paths, as baby ants act just like ants
15. a rake, that creates rakes, which create rakes, which create spaceships (rake rakes are mentioned here but this is a rake rake rake :0 )
16. a cellular automata that rickrolls you solved by saka
17. a cellular automata that does my taxes concept by wzkchem5 probably already exists actually
18. a two cell pattern that has some interesting properties already exists as the on/off trigger
19. cell machine made in cellular automata
20. a pattern resembling a unipole (bipole, tripole, etc.) solved by saka
21. a 5 dimensional cellular automata (apparently 3 and 4 dimensional has already been done)
22. a cellular automata that apgsearches itself
23. one from wzkchem5, two inequivalent cellular automata A and B such that both are turing complete, so that starting from random initial conditions and simulated on an infinite array, both will eventually give entities of at least human intelligence, but it is impossible for these entities to distinguish if their own universe is simulated by A or B; moreover they can not even tell whether their own universe has a higher probability of being simulated by A than simulated by B, or vice versa.

create any of these 23 concepts mentioned above and you'll get a free ice-cream of your choosing here

you can also make your own random concepts :D

Posted: **September 14th, 2020, 12:38 am**

SquishyBoi wrote: September 13th, 2020, 8:24 pm 1. an (interesting) one-state cellular automata
2. a spaceship that goes backwards
3. a pattern that will survive forever, yet will never return to any of it's prior positions
4. a rulestring where every pattern goes downwards

10. a pattern that looks like an oscillator, spaceship, wickstretcher, etc. but will stabilise after an abnormally short amount of generations

13. a cellular automata simulation inside of a cellular automata

16. a cellular automata that rickrolls you

18. a two cell pattern that has some interesting properties

20. a pattern resembling a unipole (bipole, tripole, etc.)

1. I don't know what your definition of interesting is, but in a one-state automaton, nothing can ever change. However, purple is an interesting color, so if you change the cell's colors to purple it'll be interesting enough for you.

2. What does it even mean for a spaceship to go backwards? Does this count (reposted from discord, found with LLS)?

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2ckn3acjky4-qy5-jn678/S012ein3ciny4-ntwy5-cj6-k78
bo$2bo$3o!
[[ STEP 3 ]]

3. Not sure what this means. So, an indestructible spaceship? Certainly possible in a MAP rue.
4. Possible with MAP rules but I don't have the appropriate one on-hand so I'll let someone else do it.
10. Also not sure, something like the Day and Night temporary rockets? Those bugs that die out after a while in LTL kind of like this?

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x = 11, y = 11, rule = R5,C0,M1,S37..59,B33..49,NM
4b2o$2b6o$b8o$b9o$b10o$4o3b4o$3o4b4o$b2o4b4o$b2o3b4o$2b2o2b2o$3b4o!

13. Perfectly done with the 0E0P metacell
16. Closest thing I have is this: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4383
18. What is "interesting"? Maybe you wanna take a look at snowflakes: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=3202 ?
20. This?

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x = 4, y = 4, rule = B3/S2-n3
2b2o$3bo$obo$2o!

Posted: **September 14th, 2020, 1:27 am**

Saka wrote: September 14th, 2020, 12:38 am 1. I don't know what your definition of interesting is, but in a one-state automaton, nothing can ever change. However, purple is an interesting color, so if you change the cell's colors to purple it'll be interesting enough for you.

2. What does it even mean for a spaceship to go backwards? Does this count (reposted from discord, found with LLS)?
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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2ckn3acjky4-qy5-jn678/S012ein3ciny4-ntwy5-cj6-k78
bo$2bo$3o!
[[ STEP 3 ]]
3. Not sure what this means. So, an indestructible spaceship? Certainly possible in a MAP rue.
4. Possible with MAP rules but I don't have the appropriate one on-hand so I'll let someone else do it.
10. Also not sure, something like the Day and Night temporary rockets? Those bugs that die out after a while in LTL kind of like this?
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x = 11, y = 11, rule = R5,C0,M1,S37..59,B33..49,NM
4b2o$2b6o$b8o$b9o$b10o$4o3b4o$3o4b4o$b2o4b4o$b2o3b4o$2b2o2b2o$3b4o!
13. Perfectly done with the 0E0P metacell
16. Closest thing I have is this: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4383
18. What is "interesting"? Maybe you wanna take a look at snowflakes: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=3202 ?
20. This?
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x = 4, y = 4, rule = B3/S2-n3
2b2o$3bo$obo$2o!

1. purple is not interesting enough (apologies to any diehard purple fans), but maybe a one-state cellular automata where the only state is a colour wavelength that is not visible by humans but can be comprehended by computers?

2. this one was a big fat joke, however you made me laugh with the backwards glider thing so you can have the ice cream i guess

3. also a joke, but the concept was a pattern (regardless if it's an oscillator, spaceship, wickstretcher, etc.) that keeps on moving but never possesses the same configuration as it did to ALL the generations prior. location does not matter, only the configuration of cells. actually now that i think about it, this is technically impossible, but somebody will probably come up with something anyway

i forgot that 10., 13. and 18. already exists when writing that so they're already solved :P

16. good enough, have a second icecream

20. i just reused the idea from the random posts thread: i didn't expect the person who replied to my nopole post to be here :0
have another icecream because why not

Posted: **September 14th, 2020, 5:31 am**

SquishyBoi wrote: September 14th, 2020, 1:27 am
3. also a joke, but the concept was a pattern (regardless if it's an oscillator, spaceship, wickstretcher, etc.) that keeps on moving but never possesses the same configuration as it did to ALL the generations prior. location does not matter, only the configuration of cells. actually now that i think about it, this is technically impossible, but somebody will probably come up with something anyway

By "never possesses the same configuration as it did to ALL the generations prior", do you mean that for any two generations M<N, the pattern at generation M is not a subset of the pattern at generation N? If yes, then many (if not all) spacefillers are trivial examples. Of course, the different generations of a spacefiller closely resemble each other, but to exclude spacefillers from consideration you have to rephrase your question to make it clearer.

Posted: **September 14th, 2020, 5:56 am**

SquishyBoi wrote: September 13th, 2020, 8:24 pm 1. an (interesting) one-state cellular automata

One can make a one-state cellular automata that lives on a torus. At each step, the dimensions of the torus are modified according to some preset rule. Since it is possible to encode the evolution step of a Turing machine as a mapping from positive integers to positive integers, the cellular automaton can be made Turing complete. Which makes it interesting, IMHO.

SquishyBoi wrote: September 13th, 2020, 8:24 pm 6. a cellular automata that moves on the beat of a preset song

Trivial if the song is 4/4. Imagine a glider coming at a suitable distance from a block, and eventually destroying it. This simulation will match the beat of the song (4/4 but terminating after finite time). I actually challenge anyone who can come up with a pattern that matches the beat of any song by Dream Theatre, which generally feature mixed beats, sometimes (allegedly) involving 17/16 measures.

SquishyBoi wrote: September 13th, 2020, 8:24 pm 11. a self-aware cellular automata

My answer to the first question, plus a suitable torus size that allows the automaton to simulate our own universe, suffices.

SquishyBoi wrote: September 13th, 2020, 8:24 pm 17. a cellular automata that does my taxes

Yes if the cellular automaton is used as the hash function of some cryptocurrency

Posted: **September 14th, 2020, 6:13 am**

23. Two inequivalent cellular automata A and B such that both are Turing complete, so that starting from random initial conditions and simulated on an infinite array, both will eventually give entities of at least human intelligence, but it is impossible for these entities to distinguish if their own universe is simulated by A or B; moreover they can not even tell whether their own universe has a higher probability of being simulated by A than simulated by B, or vice versa.
If such a pair of cellular automata exists, this will consist of a solid evidence that there are certain aspects of the physical rules of our universe that we can never know. If however it is proved that there isn't such a pair of cellular automata, it will be the best news ever to reductionists.

Posted: **September 14th, 2020, 7:28 am**

7. ventrella's "clusters" made in cellular automata
12. a cellular automata [sic] but the grid is composed of circles
15. a rake, that creates rakes, which create rakes, which create spaceships (rake rakes are mentioned here but this is a rake rake rake :0 )
17. a cellular automata [sic] that does my taxes concept by wzkchem5
19. cell machine made in cellular automata
21. a 5 dimensional cellular automata [sic] (apparently 3 and 4 dimensional has already been done)
22. a cellular automata [sic] that apgsearches itself

7. not possible as a conventional CA since CA aren't continuous
12. so like a hexagonal rule? Or is the grid an Apollonian gasket?
15. not possible for linear growth rakes in a 2D CA; possible in 3D CA or in 2D CA with "rakes" that have slower growth
17. a rule that does arithmetic sums should be quite neat tbh; I'd be surprised if there isn't already one engineered to do that.
19. probably not possible at a specific ratio of time to Cell machine
21. trivial, left as an exercise for the reader
22. CA can't access the internet, so the results wouldn't appear on catagolue; fortunately this doesn't matter as the apgsearching would be wondrously slow. Also, you'd probably want to do this in a nonexplosive but interesting turing-complete rule. (CHALLENGE: do this in GoL; since GoL is TC-CU it's possible)

Posted: **September 14th, 2020, 6:20 pm**

Moosey wrote: September 14th, 2020, 7:28 am
7. not possible as a conventional CA since CA aren't continuous
12. so like a hexagonal rule? Or is the grid an Apollonian gasket?
15. not possible for linear growth rakes in a 2D CA; possible in 3D CA or in 2D CA with "rakes" that have slower growth
17. a rule that does arithmetic sums should be quite neat tbh; I'd be surprised if there isn't already one engineered to do that.
19. probably not possible at a specific ratio of time to Cell machine
21. trivial, left as an exercise for the reader
22. CA can't access the internet, so the results wouldn't appear on catagolue; fortunately this doesn't matter as the apgsearching would be wondrously slow. Also, you'd probably want to do this in a nonexplosive but interesting turing-complete rule. (CHALLENGE: do this in GoL; since GoL is TC-CU it's possible)

12. there are actually multiple ways to compose a grid of circles, so that's why i left the reader to run wild with the (albeit idiotic) concept. apollonian gasket is a plausible way of doing it
22. a cellular automata that can apgsearch itself - as in a cellular automata that is capable of making soups within it. but then that'll require randomness and oh god we're back at square one

Posted: **September 14th, 2020, 7:03 pm**

SquishyBoi wrote: September 13th, 2020, 8:24 pm 3. a pattern that will survive forever, yet will never return to any of it's prior positions
4. a rulestring where every pattern goes downwards

3. See Total aperiodic
4. Rule table:

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@RULE spaceship

@TABLE
n_states:2
neighborhood:Moore
symmetries:none
var a={0,1}
var b={0,1}
var c={0,1}
var d={0,1}
var e={0,1}
var f={0,1}
var g={0,1}
0,1,a,b,c,d,e,f,g,1
1,0,a,b,c,d,e,f,g,0

Posted: **September 15th, 2020, 1:05 am**

SquishyBoi wrote: September 13th, 2020, 8:24 pm exactly what the title says

1. an (interesting) one-state cellular automata solved by wzkchem5
2. a spaceship that goes backwards solved by saka
3. a pattern that will survive forever, yet will never return to any of it's prior positions
4. a rulestring where every pattern goes downwards
5. a cellular automata that makes music
6. a cellular automata that moves on the beat of a preset song concept by wzkchem5
7. ventrella's "clusters" made in cellular automata
8. a convolutional neural network that creates it's own cellular automatas
9. a cellular automata that does a dance
10. a pattern that looks like an oscillator, spaceship, wickstretcher, etc. but will stabilise after an abnormally short amount of generations already in day & night
11. a self-aware cellular automata concept by wzkchem5
12. a cellular automata but the grid is composed of circles
13. a cellular automata simulation inside of a cellular automata already exists as the 0e0p metacell
14. langton's ant but ants create baby ants behind them which die after a short amount of time, yet still long enough to affect some of the other ant's paths, as baby ants act just like ants
15. a rake, that creates rakes, which create rakes, which create spaceships (rake rakes are mentioned here but this is a rake rake rake :0 )
16. a cellular automata that rickrolls you solved by saka
17. a cellular automata that does my taxes concept by wzkchem5 probably already exists actually
18. a two cell pattern that has some interesting properties already exists as the on/off trigger
19. cell machine made in cellular automata
20. a pattern resembling a unipole (bipole, tripole, etc.) solved by saka
21. a 5 dimensional cellular automata (apparently 3 and 4 dimensional has already been done)
22. a cellular automata that apgsearches itself

create any of these 22 concepts mentioned above and you'll get a free ice-cream of your choosing here

you can also make your own random concepts

I'm actually trying to solve #6 before you made this thread.

See "Absolutely Useless patterns not in CGoI".

Posted: **September 15th, 2020, 2:31 am**

SquishyBoi wrote: September 13th, 2020, 8:24 pm 3. a pattern that will survive forever, yet will never return to any of it's prior positions

Can you clarify what you mean by this?
Here are some patterns which may or may not qualify (EDIT: actually most of the complex Life patterns like the primer and caber tosser and exotic growth rate probably count too):

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x = 13, y = 5, rule = B3-y4e5a/S23-e
b2o$o2bo$b2o2b2o3b2o$5bobobo2bo$5bo4b2o!

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2ci3aer4eiqrz5i6cik8/S01c2cn3ek4nqtw5aekry6ekn78
bo$obo$bo!

Or Total Aperiodic (with the stronger property that no cell becomes periodic, hence the name)

5. a cellular automata that makes music

Someone did do this earlier with one of the Wolfram rules (110?), but it was feeding the patterns themselves into the music player instead of something that explicitly wrote music.

9. a cellular automata that does a dance

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x = 30, y = 29, rule = B3aijn45aiy6acn78/S3inq4aiqr5aiy6acn78
6bobo$8b2o2bobobobobobo$5bob6obobobobo3bo$3b18obob3o$2b23obo$2b25o$ob
26o$28obo$b29o$b29o$2b28o$2b26o$3b25o$6b21o$6b21o$6b20o$7b19o$7b18o$8b
17o$9b15o$12b12o$11b12o$13b10o$11b11o$14b8o$12b8o$15b5o$14b4o$16b2o!

(by saka)

15. a rake, that creates rakes, which create rakes, which create spaceships (rake rakes are mentioned here but this is a rake rake rake :0 )

While theoretically possible, the ships would run out of room, resulting in the pattern just becoming a rake rake, exploding, or just becoming an MMS breeder.

Posted: **September 15th, 2020, 7:16 am**

SquishyBoi wrote: September 14th, 2020, 6:20 pm 22. a cellular automata that can apgsearch itself - as in a cellular automata that is capable of making soups within it. but then that'll require randomness and oh god we're back at square one

22. not that hard, just hook a pseudorandom number generator up to a universal constructor and make a 16x16 grid of 0E0P metacells. This is definitely possible in GoL

23. one from wzkchem5, two inequivalent cellular automata A and B such that both are turing complete, so that starting from random initial conditions and simulated on an infinite array, both will eventually give entities of at least human intelligence, but it is impossible for these entities to distinguish if their own universe is simulated by A or B; moreover they can not even tell whether their own universe has a higher probability of being simulated by A than simulated by B, or vice versa.

Trivial solution: a rule and its inverse. B3/S23 and B0123478/S01234678 should work.

Posted: **September 19th, 2020, 8:31 am**

Moosey wrote: September 15th, 2020, 7:16 am
23. one from wzkchem5, two inequivalent cellular automata A and B such that both are turing complete, so that starting from random initial conditions and simulated on an infinite array, both will eventually give entities of at least human intelligence, but it is impossible for these entities to distinguish if their own universe is simulated by A or B; moreover they can not even tell whether their own universe has a higher probability of being simulated by A than simulated by B, or vice versa.
Trivial solution: a rule and its inverse. B3/S23 and B0123478/S01234678 should work.

No, I mean inequivalent, not non-identical. To be more precise, I'd want that there is no one-to-one mapping X<->Y between the configurations of the rules A and B, in the sense that if X<->Y, then X'<->Y', where X' is X evolved one step under rule A and Y' is Y evolved one step under rule B.
For example, if the initial condition is chosen such that when simulated by B3/S23, no cell with eight live neighbors will ever appear, then B38/S23 and B3/S23 can be said to be equivalent in this sense (provided the intelligent beings already know that the initial condition of their universe satisfies this property). But since I'm speaking of random initial conditions, this does not count as a true example.

Posted: **September 19th, 2020, 4:03 pm**

21. a 5 dimensional cellular automata (apparently 3 and 4 dimensional has already been done)

"Every cell never changes"

Hey, you never said it had to be interesting!

Posted: **September 19th, 2020, 5:10 pm**

#17 is easy if you only have to worry about marginal tax brackets. Simply find some spaceships all going in the same direction with speed proportional to the amount of money that you get to keep for each tax bracket, make converters from each spaceship to the next at the right distances, and then send the fastest spaceship towards the first converter. If the number of generations is proportional to the amount of money that you made, then the distance of whatever spaceship from the starting point after that number of generations will be proportional to the amount of money that you keep. If there is anything more complicated than simple tax brackets, or you can't find/don't feel like finding all of the spaceships with the right speed, then use the fact that it's possible to build a universal computer in ConwayLife.

As for #5, how complicated must the music be?

Posted: **September 19th, 2020, 6:04 pm**

SquishyBoi wrote: September 13th, 2020, 8:24 pm5. a cellular automata that makes music

Here is an example of music from CA (not a rickroll). I think the person did this in the trivial way (where you play each frequency iff the cell is on) but I'm not sure.

23. one from wzkchem5, two inequivalent cellular automata A and B such that both are turing complete, so that starting from random initial conditions and simulated on an infinite array, both will eventually give entities of at least human intelligence, but it is impossible for these entities to distinguish if their own universe is simulated by A or B; moreover they can not even tell whether their own universe has a higher probability of being simulated by A than simulated by B, or vice versa.

Ignoring trivial examples such as Life but at 1/2 speed, one possibility is the following: a universal Turing machine (moving left and right) that sends signals that also move left and right. When 2 signals collide, the one moving right becomes a different type of signal which then destroys everything it touches (each row is independent of the others). If you did this with 2 different Turing machines, none of them would be able to determine anything about their underlying cellular automaton because the only way that the tape head can be influenced is by the tape cells and destructive signals. However, in general you need a very special cellular automaton in order to even learn about the outside world, because in most of them spaceships and stuff are far more likely to cause serious damage to circuitry than a stray photon is, and it's much harder to absorb them using eaters or converters (you have to worry about them coming in at the wrong time or one cell off, again usually messing stuff up).

Posted: **September 19th, 2020, 6:28 pm**

#23: One is ConwayLife, and the other is ConwayLife except that if a cell is alive and all other cells within the 999×999 box around it are also alive, then it survives instead of dying like it normally would if it had eight immediate neighbors.

Posted: **September 19th, 2020, 7:43 pm**

toroidalet wrote: September 19th, 2020, 6:04 pm Here is an example of music from CA (not a rickroll).

You had me convinced that that was a rickroll

It was not

Posted: **September 20th, 2020, 3:42 am**

SquishyBoi wrote: September 13th, 2020, 8:24 pm15. a rake, that creates rakes, which create rakes, which create spaceships (rake rakes are mentioned here but this is a rake rake rake :0 )

Here's an example rake^3 I just made up; as you can see eventually the cubic growth eventually returns to quadratic due to running out of space:

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@RULE rake^3

@TABLE
#States 1-3 stolen from a rule by BlinkerSpawn
n_states:7
neighborhood:Moore
symmetries:none
var c1={1,3}
var c2=c1
var c3=c2
var c4=c3
var c5=c4
var c6=c5
var c7=c6
var c8=c7
var C1={0,1,3}
var C2=C1
var C3=C2
var C4=C3
var C5=C4
var C6=C5
var C7=C6
var C8=C7
1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,2
3,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,2
2,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,3
0,2,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,2
0,0,2,0,0,0,0,0,0,3
0,0,0,2,0,0,0,0,0,2
0,0,0,0,2,0,0,0,0,3
0,0,0,0,0,2,0,0,0,2
0,0,0,0,0,0,2,0,0,3
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,2,0,2
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,2,3
0,2,3,0,0,0,0,0,3,3
0,3,0,0,0,0,0,0,2,3
0,0,0,3,2,0,0,0,0,3
0,0,3,2,3,0,0,0,0,3
0,0,2,3,0,0,0,0,0,3
0,0,0,0,0,3,2,0,0,3
0,0,0,0,3,2,3,0,0,3
0,0,0,0,2,3,0,0,0,3
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,3,2,3
0,0,0,0,0,0,3,2,3,3
0,0,0,0,0,0,2,3,0,3
2,3,2,3,2,3,0,0,0,3
2,0,0,3,2,3,2,3,0,3
2,3,0,0,0,3,2,3,2,3
2,3,2,3,0,0,0,3,2,3
1,1,1,1,1,0,0,0,0,0
1,1,1,1,0,0,0,0,0,0
1,0,1,1,1,0,0,0,0,0
1,1,1,1,0,0,0,0,1,0
1,1,1,0,0,0,0,0,1,0
1,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
1,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0
1,0,0,0,1,1,0,0,0,0
1,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0
1,0,0,1,1,0,0,0,0,0
3,0,0,0,0,c1,c2,c3,c4,1
1,0,0,0,0,c1,c2,c3,c4,3
3,1,0,0,0,C1,C2,C3,C4,1
1,1,0,0,0,C1,C2,C3,C4,3
3,0,0,0,1,C1,C2,C3,C4,1
1,0,0,0,1,C1,C2,C3,C4,3
3,1,0,1,1,C1,C2,C3,C4,1
1,1,0,1,1,C1,C2,C3,C4,3
3,1,1,1,1,C1,C2,C3,C4,1
1,1,1,1,1,C1,C2,C3,C4,3
3,1,1,1,0,C1,C2,C3,C4,1
1,1,1,1,0,C1,C2,C3,C4,3
3,1,1,0,0,C1,C2,C3,C4,1
1,1,1,0,0,C1,C2,C3,C4,3
3,0,0,1,1,C1,C2,C3,C4,1
1,0,0,1,1,C1,C2,C3,C4,3
3,0,1,1,1,C1,C2,C3,C4,1
1,0,1,1,1,C1,C2,C3,C4,3
3,3,0,3,3,0,0,3,3,2
2,3,0,3,3,0,0,3,3,1
3,0,0,0,3,2,3,3,0,0
3,0,0,0,0,3,0,2,3,0
3,3,0,0,0,0,0,0,2,0
3,3,3,2,0,0,0,0,0,0
3,0,0,3,2,3,0,0,0,0
3,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
#states 4-5 (rake):
0,3,2,0,0,0,0,0,0,4
0,4,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,4
4,3,3,3,0,0,0,0,3,3
4,0,1,0,0,4,0,0,5,0
4,4,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
4,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
0,0,0,0,4,0,0,0,0,5
0,0,5,0,0,0,0,0,0,5
5,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
5,0,0,0,4,0,0,0,0,0
#state 6 (rake^3)
0,0,0,6,0,0,0,0,0,6
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,6,0,6
6,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
0,0,6,6,0,0,0,0,0,6
0,0,0,6,6,0,0,0,0,6
6,6,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
6,0,0,0,0,6,0,0,0,0
0,0,0,0,0,0,6,0,6,1
6,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0

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x = 127, y = 4, rule = rake^3
F2$126.F$126.F!

(somebody can remake the rake^2 to be fast and high-period instead of slow so it runs longer before the rakes collide, but I'm lazy)

Moosey wrote: September 19th, 2020, 7:43 pm
toroidalet wrote: September 19th, 2020, 6:04 pm Here is an example of music from CA (not a rickroll).
You had me convinced that that was a rickroll

It was not

Alright, guys—it's been confirmed: not a rickroll. It's safe for you to watch now.

Posted: **September 23rd, 2020, 11:04 am**

toroidalet wrote: September 19th, 2020, 6:04 pm Ignoring trivial examples such as Life but at 1/2 speed, one possibility is the following: a universal Turing machine (moving left and right) that sends signals that also move left and right. When 2 signals collide, the one moving right becomes a different type of signal which then destroys everything it touches (each row is independent of the others). If you did this with 2 different Turing machines, none of them would be able to determine anything about their underlying cellular automaton because the only way that the tape head can be influenced is by the tape cells and destructive signals. However, in general you need a very special cellular automaton in order to even learn about the outside world, because in most of them spaceships and stuff are far more likely to cause serious damage to circuitry than a stray photon is, and it's much harder to absorb them using eaters or converters (you have to worry about them coming in at the wrong time or one cell off, again usually messing stuff up).

But the Turing machines will have to emerge spontaneously from a random initial condition, and it is highly unlikely that there is a CA where universal Turing machines with the destructive signals are possible but those without such signals are not.

Posted: **September 23rd, 2020, 11:15 am**

MathAndCode wrote: September 19th, 2020, 6:28 pm #23: One is ConwayLife, and the other is ConwayLife except that if a cell is alive and all other cells within the 999×999 box around it are also alive, then it survives instead of dying like it normally would if it had eight immediate neighbors.

I will accept this answer! This answer will probably only make sense if the initial condition is an infinitely dilute soup though (I did not explicitly require this but this is the situation I'm actually interested in, so I'm satisfied with solving this special case); otherwise the change of rule may have an extremely small but non-zero effect on the object populations in the final ash.
And your solution can be generalized to any CA where the rule deviates from GoL only when encountering a Garden of Eden, and the Garden of Eden is too rare in the initial soup to have a non-zero impact on the global dynamics.
But still, I would be interested in some more non-trivial solutions, i.e. two CAs that do not resemble each other at all at the first glance.

Posted: **September 23rd, 2020, 3:03 pm**

wzkchem5 wrote: September 23rd, 2020, 11:15 am
MathAndCode wrote: September 19th, 2020, 6:28 pm #23: One is ConwayLife, and the other is ConwayLife except that if a cell is alive and all other cells within the 999×999 box around it are also alive, then it survives instead of dying like it normally would if it had eight immediate neighbors.
I will accept this answer! This answer will probably only make sense if the initial condition is an infinitely dilute soup though (I did not explicitly require this but this is the situation I'm actually interested in, so I'm satisfied with solving this special case); otherwise the change of rule may have an extremely small but non-zero effect on the object populations in the final ash.
And your solution can be generalized to any CA where the rule deviates from GoL only when encountering a Garden of Eden, and the Garden of Eden is too rare in the initial soup to have a non-zero impact on the global dynamics.
But still, I would be interested in some more non-trivial solutions, i.e. two CAs that do not resemble each other at all at the first glance.

There's a design for a Turing machine that works in a variety of fairly common rules, such as ConwayLife, PedestrianLife, and DryLife, but they probably have at least slightly different commonnesses for different types of gates, which could lead to the equivalent of different laws of physics being more likely. Of course, any Turing complete cellular automaton could simulate any cellular automaton, including other Turing-complete cellular automaton, but the question also requires that hypothetical intelligent beings would not be able to detect a difference in probabilities.

19. ConwayLife has universal Turing machines, so simply program it on one of them.
22. I found a pattern whose shape resembles a capital I, which is also its apcode.

Posted: **September 23rd, 2020, 11:01 pm**

MathAndCode wrote: September 23rd, 2020, 3:03 pm There's a design for a Turing machine that works in a variety of fairly common rules, such as ConwayLife, PedestrianLife, and DryLife, but they probably have at least slightly different commonnesses for different types of gates, which could lead to the equivalent of different laws of physics being more likely. Of course, any Turing complete cellular automaton could simulate any cellular automaton, including other Turing-complete cellular automaton, but the question also requires that hypothetical intelligent beings would not be able to detect a difference in probabilities.

Yes, and this makes the question less trivial than it seems

Posted: **March 5th, 2021, 9:44 pm**

SquishyBoi wrote: September 14th, 2020, 1:27 am
Saka wrote: September 14th, 2020, 12:38 am 1. I don't know what your definition of interesting is, but in a one-state automaton, nothing can ever change. However, purple is an interesting color, so if you change the cell's colors to purple it'll be interesting enough for you.

2. What does it even mean for a spaceship to go backwards? Does this count (reposted from discord, found with LLS)?
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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2ckn3acjky4-qy5-jn678/S012ein3ciny4-ntwy5-cj6-k78
bo$2bo$3o!
[[ STEP 3 ]]
3. Not sure what this means. So, an indestructible spaceship? Certainly possible in a MAP rue.
4. Possible with MAP rules but I don't have the appropriate one on-hand so I'll let someone else do it.
10. Also not sure, something like the Day and Night temporary rockets? Those bugs that die out after a while in LTL kind of like this?
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x = 11, y = 11, rule = R5,C0,M1,S37..59,B33..49,NM
4b2o$2b6o$b8o$b9o$b10o$4o3b4o$3o4b4o$b2o4b4o$b2o3b4o$2b2o2b2o$3b4o!
13. Perfectly done with the 0E0P metacell
16. Closest thing I have is this: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4383
18. What is "interesting"? Maybe you wanna take a look at snowflakes: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=3202 ?
20. This?
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x = 4, y = 4, rule = B3/S2-n3
2b2o$3bo$obo$2o!
1. purple is not interesting enough (apologies to any diehard purple fans), but maybe a one-state cellular automata where the only state is a colour wavelength that is not visible by humans but can be comprehended by computers?

2. this one was a big fat joke, however you made me laugh with the backwards glider thing so you can have the ice cream i guess

3. also a joke, but the concept was a pattern (regardless if it's an oscillator, spaceship, wickstretcher, etc.) that keeps on moving but never possesses the same configuration as it did to ALL the generations prior. location does not matter, only the configuration of cells. actually now that i think about it, this is technically impossible, but somebody will probably come up with something anyway

i forgot that 10., 13. and 18. already exists when writing that so they're already solved

16. good enough, have a second icecream

20. i just reused the idea from the random posts thread: i didn't expect the person who replied to my nopole post to be here :0
have another icecream because why not

found a spaceship and an oscillator in Suicidal Bugs

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x = 240, y = 184, rule = Suicidal Bugs
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obo$4b6ob2o3b2o3bob6obo2bob2ob3o2b2o2bobobobo2bob3obobobo4bo4bob5ob2o
2bobobobo2b5o6bo2b4o2bob2o7bob2obob8o2b7obobob2ob3o2b2obob5ob3o2b3obo
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$3bo2bob5obo2bo5b3obobobo6b2o2b3o4bobobo2bo2bo7b3o3b2o3b2obo2b3obo2bo
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b3ob2ob2o4b2obo8b2o2bo2bobo5b2ob2ob6o2b3obo3bo2bobo2b3ob2o2bo2bo2b2ob
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bobo4b3o$4o3b2obo2b3obobo3bo4b4obob2ob2o2bo2bobo3bobob3ob2obob3o2b2o2b
ob2ob2obo3b2o3bo3b2ob5obo2bobob7obo2bob2obob3o2b7o2bo2b2o2bo2b5o2b2o2b
o5bo3bo2bo5bo3b2obo2bo3b3obo4b4o2bo2b2ob6o3bo2b2o2b5o!

Posted: **March 20th, 2021, 8:55 am**

SquishyBoi wrote: September 13th, 2020, 8:24 pm

a pattern that will survive forever, yet will never return to any of it's prior positions

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x = 4, y = 5, rule = B3-cek4-ceijz5-aik6cik7e/S2-ac3-y4ejktz5ck6e
bo$o2bo$o2bo$o2bo$b3o!

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