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B345/S4
Posted: June 16th, 2020, 2:02 pm
by NoAyeBeardo
This is a rule I call 'OscillatorLife' due to the many, many oscillators in it.
Most have volatility 1 or are phoenixes.
There are some that have a stator, but I only know two of these
I don't think that there is any still lifes.
I haven't found any spaceships yet.
Soups tend to take a long time to stabilise, leaving behind a few oscillators.
Thus thread is dedicated to this rule.
Re: B345/S4
Posted: June 16th, 2020, 4:39 pm
by LaundryPizza03
Still lifes are indeed impossible.
The known spaceships have speeds c/5 and c/7. I'm also currently searching c/6.
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x = 48, y = 18, rule = B345/S4
28bobo3bobobobo$19bobo2bobobobobo4b2o2bo$4bo12bob6obo3b3o3b4obo$2bo3bo
bo10b2obo3bob3o2b4o6bo$bob3o2bo17bobob5obob3o4bo$o2bo3bob2o6bo5bobo2bo
4b3ob2o2b2o2bo$b2o4bo2bo4bobo4bo2bo3b4o2b2ob2o4b2o$3o2bobobo2bo2bo3bo
2bo2b6obo5b4o2b2obo$5bob2o3bobo3b3o5b2o2b2obo4b2ob5obo$5bob2o3bobo3b3o
5b2o2b2obo4b2ob5obo$3o2bobobo2bo2bo3bo2bo2b6obo5b4o2b2obo$b2o4bo2bo4bo
bo4bo2bo3b4o2b2ob2o4b2o$o2bo3bob2o6bo5bobo2bo4b3ob2o2b2o2bo$bob3o2bo
17bobob5obob3o4bo$2bo3bobo10b2obo3bob3o2b4o6bo$4bo12bob6obo3b3o3b4obo$
19bobo2bobobobobo4b2o2bo$28bobo3bobobobo!
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x = 39, y = 12, rule = B345/S4
13bo4bobo5bobobobobo$obo2bobo3bobo2b2obo4bobobob2ob2obo$obob2obobo3bo
4b4o2bob3o4bob2o$2obo2bobobo2bobob2obobobo2bobo3bo2bo$2o2bobo3bo4bobo
6bo2bob2obo2b2obo$o3bobo5bo4bo6bo3bo3bo3bobo$o3bobo5bo4bo6bo3bo3bo3bob
o$2o2bobo3bo4bobo6bo2bob2obo2b2obo$2obo2bobobo2bobob2obobobo2bobo3bo2b
o$obob2obobo3bo4b4o2bob3o4bob2o$obo2bobo3bobo2b2obo4bobobob2ob2obo$13b
o4bobo5bobobobobo!
Re: B345/S4
Posted: June 17th, 2020, 1:31 am
by NoAyeBeardo
Thanks! Most oscillators are what I call 'confused line'. Sorry I can't post RLE, I don't know how to access RLE on LifeViewer. The S4 allows the 'cross' oscillator:
010 101
111 --> 010
010 101
Re: B345/S4
Posted: June 17th, 2020, 1:38 am
by NoAyeBeardo
There also is a wick, which can be stabilized by confused blinkers and turned into a oscillator. I don't know any fuses for it.
Re: B345/S4
Posted: June 17th, 2020, 1:50 am
by bubblegum
NoAyeBeardo wrote: June 17th, 2020, 1:31 am
Thanks! Most oscillators are what I call 'confused line'. Sorry I can't post RLE, I don't know how to access RLE on LifeViewer. The S4 allows the 'cross' oscillator:
010 101
111 --> 010
010 101
Press the "Sync" button in the top-right, select the region you want to copy and hit "copy" (second-right on left side).
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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B345/S4
bo$3o$bo!
Re: B345/S4
Posted: June 17th, 2020, 4:11 am
by NoAyeBeardo
I tried that, but all I got was 'Copied to external clipboard'
I'm going to install Golly. Can you access RLE In Golly?
Re: B345/S4
Posted: June 17th, 2020, 4:15 am
by lemon41625
NoAyeBeardo wrote: June 17th, 2020, 4:11 am
I tried that, but all I got was 'Copied to external clipboard'
I'm going to install Golly. Can you access RLE In Golly?
That's supposed to happen. Afterwards, the rle is inside your clipboard, so the next time you hit paste (Ctrl+V) the rle will be pasted.
It works the same way in Golly.
Re: B345/S4
Posted: June 17th, 2020, 4:26 am
by NoAyeBeardo
Thanks a lot! Can Golly copy-paste?
Re: B345/S4
Posted: June 17th, 2020, 4:28 am
by NoAyeBeardo
So how can you insert RLE into LifeViewer?
Re: B345/S4
Posted: June 17th, 2020, 5:37 am
by NoAyeBeardo
Here is a incomplete stamp collection of oscillators:
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x = 64, y = 33, rule = B345/S4
3bobobobo$48bo4bobo3bobobo$7bo$48bo4bobo7bo$5bo$48bo6bo5bo$3bobobobo$
48bo6bo5bo2$48bo6bo$61bo5$2bobo$obobobo4bo5bo$obobobo3b3o4bobo$2bobo6b
o5bo33b2o5b2o2$17bo32b4obob4o$17bobo28bobo2bo3bo2bobo$17bobo28bobo2bo
bobo2bobo$5bo11bo32b3o5b3o$3b4o$4bo45bobo5bobo2$50b3o5b3o$48bobo2bobo
bo2bobo$48bobo2bo3bo2bobo$50b4obob4o2$51b2o5b2o!
Re: B345/S4
Posted: June 17th, 2020, 5:39 am
by NoAyeBeardo
Oops, I meant 19.
Re: B345/S4
Posted: June 17th, 2020, 5:39 am
by NoAyeBeardo
18! Argh!
Re: B345/S4
Posted: June 17th, 2020, 6:33 am
by NoAyeBeardo
Are there any tagalongs? Puffers? Rakes? Guns?
Guns/rakes seem hard to construct, as the spaceships are massive!
Re: B345/S4
Posted: June 17th, 2020, 6:46 am
by NoAyeBeardo
Most oscillators seem to be p2, but here is a p4 one.
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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B345/S4
b2o$b2o$4o!
This spaceship throws off sparks behind it. Any tagalongs?
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x = 39, y = 12, rule = B345/S4
13bo4bobo5bobobobobo$obo2bobo3bobo2b2obo4bobobob2ob2obo$obob2obobo3bo
4b4o2bob3o4bob2o$2obo2bobobo2bobob2obobobo2bobo3bo2bo$2o2bobo3bo4bobo
6bo2bob2obo2b2obo$o3bobo5bo4bo6bo3bo3bo3bobo$o3bobo5bo4bo6bo3bo3bo3bob
o$2o2bobo3bo4bobo6bo2bob2obo2b2obo$2obo2bobobo2bobob2obobobo2bobo3bo2b
o$obob2obobo3bo4b4o2bob3o4bob2o$obo2bobo3bobo2b2obo4bobobob2ob2obo$13b
o4bobo5bobobobobo!
Re: B345/S4
Posted: June 17th, 2020, 6:53 am
by NoAyeBeardo
There seems to be a lot of p4 oscillators as well.
Re: B345/S4
Posted: June 17th, 2020, 7:03 am
by Hunting
Before I have access to the computer all I have to note is:
1. Stop multiple posting.
2. Discuss before making a thread.
3. Guns and rakes are obviously impossible. (That is, before AbhpzTa come.) There's not even a way, left alone an easily constructible one, to produce any of those spaceship, and no high-period technology as well.
4. Use code tags
Re: B345/S4
Posted: June 17th, 2020, 9:05 am
by NoAyeBeardo
Sorry, I am new to the forums. I have started using code and will try to stop multiple posting
Where do I discuss before making a thread?
Re: B345/S4
Posted: June 17th, 2020, 9:07 am
by Hunting
NoAyeBeardo wrote: June 17th, 2020, 9:05 am
Sorry, I am new to the forums. I have started using code and will try to stop multiple posting
Where do I discuss before making a thread?
Ah, alright. I'm just always rude to new users here so don't mind me.
Under the "Thread for your Unrecognised CA" thread.
Re: B345/S4
Posted: June 17th, 2020, 9:33 am
by NoAyeBeardo
Thanks
!
Re: B345/S4
Posted: June 17th, 2020, 10:42 am
by Hunting
LaundryPizza03 apgsearched the rule on 2020-05-19:
Results. There are almost every even periods there, but not odd periods - can someone prove that they are impossible?
The highest period among these is this p3092:
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x = 20, y = 19, rule = B345/S4
7b3o2$5b2o3b2o2$3b11o2$b3o10b2o2$4o12b2o2$2b2o10b6o2$4b2o8b5o2$6b2o7b2o2$8b7o
2$10b3o!
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Another unproven (as far as I know - LaundryPizza03 may have some progress though as he's investigating Life-Life CAs seriously) conjecture on this rule is it's impossible to have spaceships faster than c/4, or maybe c/5.