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Posted: **April 16th, 2020, 6:51 am**

I have new great idea for the rulespace. Here I will explain it.
Cells can be born if(amount) neighbours have(amount) neighbours and survive if (amout) neighbours have (amount) neighbours. There also can be written A in the meaning of ,,all".
Here is an example how it would ve written:
B(3478)4578/S(367)56/M1.
First numbers are amount of cell's neighbours,and second ones amount og cell's neighbour's neighbours.
There is also an extra M on the end. If M is 1,the cell will also count as a neighbour of its neighbours when it is counted will cell survive. If M is 0,it will not be counted.
I wonder if anyone can make script for this rulespace.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

Posted: **April 16th, 2020, 11:22 am**

BokaBB wrote: April 16th, 2020, 6:51 am I have new great idea for the algorithm. Here I will explain it.
Cells can be born if(amount) neighbours have(amount) neighbours and survive if (amout) neighbours have (amount) neighbours. There also can be written A in the meaning of ,,all".
Here is an example how it would ve written:
B(3478)4578/S(367)56/M1.
First numbers are amount of cell's neighbours,and second ones amount og cell's neighbour's neighbours.
There is also an extra M on the end. If M is 1,the cell will also count as a neighbour of its neighbours when it is counted will cell survive. If M is 0,it will not be counted.
I wonder if anyone can make script for this algorithm.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

This is known as a rulespace. A rulespace basically is a class of rules.

BTW you could make this into a thread for rulespaces.

Here's my rulespace:
They can be notated as BaaaSbbbPBcccSddd,
Where aaa, bbb, ccc, ddd are Hensel notation strings (e.g. 3-e67c),
And they evolve according to the following rules:

A state 0 cell:
- Becomes a state 1 cell if it has state 2 cells in configuration x and x∈aaa
A state 1 cell:
- Dies if it has state 2 cells in configuration x and x∉bbb
- Becomes a state 2 cell if it has state 2 cells in configuration x and x∈ccc
A state 2 cell:
- Becomes a state 1 cell if it has state 2 cells in configuration x and x∉ddd

Posted: **April 16th, 2020, 11:29 am**

I mentioned the "rulespace" issue in private mess ages, though.

Posted: **April 16th, 2020, 8:55 pm**

BokaBB wrote: April 16th, 2020, 6:51 am I have new great idea for the rulespace. Here I will explain it.
Cells can be born if(amount) neighbours have(amount) neighbours and survive if (amout) neighbours have (amount) neighbours. There also can be written A in the meaning of ,,all".
Here is an example how it would ve written:
B(3478)4578/S(367)56/M1.
First numbers are amount of cell's neighbours,and second ones amount og cell's neighbour's neighbours.
There is also an extra M on the end. If M is 1,the cell will also count as a neighbour of its neighbours when it is counted will cell survive. If M is 0,it will not be counted.
I wonder if anyone can make script for this rulespace.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

Well, Ddo you know S0?(It means a cell has no neighboring cells will survive.)

Posted: **April 17th, 2020, 5:50 am**

I know,and it can be explained like ,,to survive,cell needs 0 neighbours with 012345678 neighbours".
Have a good day!

BokaBB

Posted: **April 17th, 2020, 6:00 am**

BokaBB wrote: April 17th, 2020, 5:50 am I know,and it can be explained like ,,to survive,cell needs 0 neighbours with 012345678 neighbours".
Have a good day!

BokaBB

Umm...?B/S012345678

Posted: **April 17th, 2020, 6:08 am**

Without brackets name is not legal. You may leave them bare,but cannot eliminate them.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

Posted: **April 17th, 2020, 6:31 am**

BokaBB wrote: April 17th, 2020, 6:08 am Without brackets name is not legal. You may leave them bare,but cannot eliminate them.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

He didn't get your namespace.

Wait for me to complete the Golly script that simulates this rulespace. It's on my not too long TODO list.

Posted: **April 17th, 2020, 7:03 am**

Hunting wrote: April 17th, 2020, 6:31 am
BokaBB wrote: April 17th, 2020, 6:08 am Without brackets name is not legal. You may leave them bare,but cannot eliminate them.
Have a good day!

BokaBB
He didn't get your namespace.

Wait for me to complete the Golly script that simulates this rulespace. It's on my not too long TODO list.

No idea what it is.
Some one please explain?

Posted: **April 17th, 2020, 7:18 am**

Nothing special,just his to - do list.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

Posted: **April 17th, 2020, 7:31 am**

What?
I’m getting More confused now

Posted: **April 17th, 2020, 8:59 am**

yujh wrote: April 17th, 2020, 7:31 am What?
I’m getting More confused now

You are odd man,do you know?
Have a good day!

BokaBB

Posted: **April 17th, 2020, 9:49 pm**

BokaBB wrote: April 17th, 2020, 8:59 am
yujh wrote: April 17th, 2020, 7:31 am What?
I’m getting More confused now
You are odd man,do you know?
Have a good day!

BokaBB

Hunting said:he didn’t get your namespace.

Posted: **April 17th, 2020, 10:04 pm**

yujh wrote: April 17th, 2020, 9:49 pm
BokaBB wrote: April 17th, 2020, 8:59 am
yujh wrote: April 17th, 2020, 7:31 am What?
I’m getting More confused now
You are odd man,do you know?
Have a good day!

BokaBB
Hunting said:he didn’t get your namespace.

@yujh This is a semi-totalistic Larger than Life rulespace.

Posted: **April 17th, 2020, 11:33 pm**

Hunting wrote: April 17th, 2020, 10:04 pm
yujh wrote: April 17th, 2020, 9:49 pm
BokaBB wrote: April 17th, 2020, 8:59 am

You are odd man,do you know?
Have a good day!

BokaBB
Hunting said:he didn’t get your namespace.
@yujh This is a semi-totalistic Larger than Life rulespace.

Ok I understand now.

Posted: **April 18th, 2020, 12:13 pm**

Very complex to implement
idea:
states:

Main pattern
dead with wrong neighbors for birth and right neighbors for survival
dead with right neighbors for birth and wrong neighbors for survival
dead right right
live wrong wrong
live wrong right
live right wrong
live right right

Two gens for one generation
rules:

1=>
- 5 if wrong neighbor count for survival and birth
- 6 if wrong neighbor count for survival but right neighbor count for birth
- same for 7, 8
1=>
- 2 if wrong neighbor count for survival but right neighbor count for birth
- same for 3, 4
dead-cell=>1 if right count of cells with right neighbors for birth
live-cell=>0 if wrong count of cells with right neighbors for survival

Posted: **April 22nd, 2020, 5:42 am**

I have an idea for a rulespace.
Maybe I'll call it regenerating generations.

The rulestring is rgN/lL/bB/sS/rbB1/rsS1 where N is the number of states, B is the birth condition, S is the survival condition, B1 is the second birth condition, S1 is the second survival condition and L is a state number.
For example, rg3/l1/b3/s23/rb4/rs5

Here is how it works:

If cell is dead:

If B is satisfied:

- Cell becomes state L

else:

- Cell stays dead

If cell is alive:

If S is satisfied:

- Cell stays alive

else:

- Cell becomes Dying 1

If cell's state is dying n:

If B1 is satisfied:

- Cell becomes Dying (n - 1) or Alive

elif S1 is satisfied:

- Cell stays at Dying n

else:

- Cell becomes Dying (n + 1) or Dead

Posted: **April 22nd, 2020, 11:02 am**

Please post it outside this thread.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

Posted: **April 22nd, 2020, 8:03 pm**

Was this thread not for new rulespace ideas as mentioned up here:

EvinZL wrote: April 16th, 2020, 11:22 am This is known as a rulespace. A rulespace basically is a class of rules.

BTW you could make this into a thread for rulespaces.

Correct me if I am wrong.
Also what are you going to name your rulespace?

Posted: **April 22nd, 2020, 8:43 pm**

lemon41625 wrote: April 22nd, 2020, 8:03 pm Was this thread not for new rulespace ideas as mentioned up here:

EvinZL wrote: April 16th, 2020, 11:22 am This is known as a rulespace. A rulespace basically is a class of rules.

BTW you could make this into a thread for rulespaces.
Correct me if I am wrong.
Also what are you going to name your rulespace?

IMO that suggestion is not yet accepted.

Posted: **April 26th, 2020, 1:02 am**

I have explored some rules in this rulespace with my application here: https://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic ... 423#p95423
These rules are in the rules folder of the application.

The rule B(3,4,6,11)2,6,7/S(3,6,8,12)2,3,9,12/5 (Generations) uses neighbourhood weights (M is 1):
1 2 1
2 3 2
1 2 1

11c/68 Spaceship

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x = 31, y = 24, rule = GenerationsBokaBB_Rule_2
31.$31.$31.$31.$4.A26.$4.A26.$3.C.A25.$2.CD.A25.$5.C25.$7.CD22.$4.C2.2D22.$8.B22.$5.C2DA22.$6.B2A4.C9.A7.$6.2C5.B9.2A6.$13.DBC6.BCBA5.$22.A2C6.$22.D.DC5.$24.2D5.$23.2D6.$31.$31.$31.$31.1$!

P7 Oscillator

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x = 14, y = 13, rule = GenerationsBokaBB_Rule_2
14.$6.A7.$6.A7.$5.ACA6.$4.B3DB5.$3.AD3.DA4.$.2ACD.C.DC2A2.$3.AD3.DA4.$4.B3DB5.$5.ACA6.$6.A7.$6.A7.$14.1$!

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The rule B(3,4,6,11)2,6,7/S(3,5,8,12)2,3,9,12/5 (Generations) uses neighbourhood weights (M is 1):
1 2 1
2 0 2
1 2 1

Orthogonal 1c/1, c/2, Diagonal 3c/6

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x = 31, y = 19, rule = GenerationsBokaBB_Rule_1
31.$31.$31.$31.$4.A18.DCBA4.$2.ABCD2.D14.DCBA4.$2.2ACBD.C22.$4.A.2D23.$4.A26.$31.$31.$31.$21.DBA7.$21.DB8.$20.CA9.$20.CA9.$31.$31.$31.1$!

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The rule B(3,5,6)2,6,7/S(3,6,8)2,3/M1 (Single State) uses the Range 1 Moore Neighbourhood:

It has a Diagonal 1c/1 and c/2 spaceship

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x = 7, y = 8, rule = BokaBB_Rule_1
7.$7.$7.$3.A3.$.2A.A2.$7.$7.$7.1$!

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x = 7, y = 9, rule = BokaBB_Rule_1
7.$7.$7.$2.A.A2.$4.A2.$2.2A3.$7.$7.$7.1$!

P3, P6, P12

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x = 65, y = 19, rule = BokaBB_Rule_1
65.$65.$65.$65.$65.$65.$65.$6.A.A44.A11.$52.2A11.$7.A21.A35.$29.3A20.A12.$6.A.A18.2A.2A20.A.A10.$28.2A.2A32.$28.3A34.$30.A34.$65.$65.$65.$65.1$!

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Also waiting for Hunting to finish the golly script so that I can simulate the rules in Golly.
Btw, I was hoping that the rulespace could be given a name.

Posted: **April 26th, 2020, 2:12 am**

lemon41625 wrote: April 26th, 2020, 1:02 am Btw, I was hoping that the rulespace could be given a name.

Double-totalistic?

Oh by the way:

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Outer-totalistic (by John von Neumann)
Totalistic
Inner-totalistic (by Saka)
Isotropic non-totalistic (by David Bell)
Non-isotropic
Generations
Reverse Generations (by Martin Grant)
Extended Generations (by DigitalCross/xanman12321)
b-Extended Generations (by Brian Prentice)
BSFKL (by Sphenocorona)
BSFK (by c0b0p0)
3-state range-1 outer-totalistic (by muzik)
Larger than Life (by Kellie Evans)
Higher-range outer-totalistic

Moore
von Neumann
Hexagonal
Margolous
L²/Circular

...why do i do this?

Posted: **April 26th, 2020, 2:47 am**

bubblegum wrote: April 26th, 2020, 2:12 am
lemon41625 wrote: April 26th, 2020, 1:02 am Btw, I was hoping that the rulespace could be given a name.
Double-totalistic?

Oh by the way:
Code: Select all
Outer-totalistic (by John von Neumann)
Totalistic
Inner-totalistic (by Saka)
Isotropic non-totalistic (by David Bell)
Non-isotropic
Generations
Reverse Generations (by Martin Grant)
Extended Generations (by DigitalCross/xanman12321)
b-Extended Generations (by Brian Prentice)
BSFKL (by Sphenocorona)
BSFK (by c0b0p0)
3-state range-1 outer-totalistic (by muzik)
Larger than Life (by Kellie Evans)
Higher-range outer-totalistic

Moore
von Neumann
Hexagonal
Margolous
L²/Circular
...why do i do this?

Hi
https://www.conwaylife.com/forums/view ... =11&t=3808
Bye

Posted: **April 26th, 2020, 9:04 am**

bubblegum wrote: April 26th, 2020, 2:12 am Double-totalistic?

Can I check that everyone agrees with this name?

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