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10 cell pattern that lasted more than 12000 generations

Posted: April 7th, 2020, 12:10 pm
by BokaBB
Yes,this is possible!It happened in my Pi life rule(B34c/S234y8). This rule is EXTREMLY long lasting,but still not exploding and stable
. Its name comes from fact that Pi - heptomino is a failed puffer,but it can be stabilized into many spaceships, puffers and rakes. Pi is also a number that is fascinating the humanity for centuries.
However,the pattern was not discovered by me but by my friend Hunting,the author of now trendy LeapLife.
You can see the pattern in a thread on the forum.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

Re: 10 cell pattern that lasted more than 12000 generations

Posted: April 7th, 2020, 12:31 pm
by BokaBB
Does it matter because I have done this?
Have a good day!

BokaBB

Re: 10 cell pattern that lasted more than 12000 generations

Posted: April 7th, 2020, 8:14 pm
by Hunting
Uh, you made a thread about this!

I think there are other non-totalistic rules with such behaviour, I saw one soup which produces millons of objects, but eventually stabilizes.

Also in CGoL it should be possible as well, this rabbit relative have 10 cell and lasts over 17000 generations:

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... But that's not as tightly packed as my pattern. FYI, my script creates only 3x4 soups, and aims for the largest final population, instead of lifespan, because population is easier to detect XD.

Re: 10 cell pattern that lasted more than 12000 generations

Posted: April 7th, 2020, 8:59 pm
by toroidalet
This 3-cell pattern from here lasts over 3 billion generations:

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2-a3-any5aein6ikn7/S2ce3any4acnyz5-ce6-k7e8
o$bo$2bo!
This 14-cell pattern (generation 6 has 10) from here lasts an unimaginably long amount of time (I'm pretty sure over 2^2^2^50 generations), but it's not really a "normal" methuselah and a little unsatisfying:

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x = 9, y = 9, rule = B2ei3cikqr4aetz5cr6i/S1e2k3y
4b5o2$6bo2$o5bo$o$obobo$o$o!

Re: 10 cell pattern that lasted more than 12000 generations

Posted: April 7th, 2020, 9:35 pm
by Hunting
How about turning this thread into a OCA 10-cell methuselah thread?

Re: 10 cell pattern that lasted more than 12000 generations

Posted: April 7th, 2020, 9:57 pm
by yujh
Good idea. Just do it.

Re: 10 cell pattern that lasted more than 12000 generations

Posted: August 3rd, 2020, 9:37 am
by ColorfulGalaxy
BokaBB wrote: April 7th, 2020, 12:10 pm Yes,this is possible!It happened in my Pi life rule(B34c/S234y8). This rule is EXTREMLY long lasting,but still not exploding and stable
. Its name comes from fact that Pi - heptomino is a failed puffer,but it can be stabilized into many spaceships, puffers and rakes. Pi is also a number that is fascinating the humanity for centuries.
However,the pattern was not discovered by me but by my friend Hunting,the author of now trendy LeapLife.
You can see the pattern in a thread on the forum.
Have a good day!

BokaBB
So far, we've found at least three different methuselahs in StateInvestigator.
For more information, click below.
http://www.conwaylife.com/forums/viewto ... 01#p101601