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Help running ntzfind
Posted: March 12th, 2020, 2:17 am
by globins
I downloaded ntzfind today and I cannot get it to run on my computer. I'm using Windows and I have Cygwin downloaded. I've gotten as far as compiling it (although I'm not sure I'm doing that right, since I know nothing about C or C++). I just used the command that was listed in the readme:
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g++ -std=c++11 -O3 -march=native -o ntzfind ntzfind.cpp
Whenever I try to run it (using ./ntzfind, I think?), I get an error that says "floating point exception (core dumped)." When I click on the .exe file that was generated by the compilation, it gives me a message that says "The program can't start because cygwin1.dll is missing from your computer. Try reinstalling the program to fix this problem." I have cygwin1.dll on my computer; I went and found the file in C:\cygwin64\bin and it's there. I tried reinstalling Cygwin and nothing changed. How do I fix this?
Re: Help running ntzfind
Posted: March 12th, 2020, 3:30 am
by wildmyron
globins wrote: March 12th, 2020, 2:17 am
I downloaded ntzfind today and I cannot get it to run on my computer. I'm using Windows and I have Cygwin downloaded. I've gotten as far as compiling it (although I'm not sure I'm doing that right, since I know nothing about C or C++). I just used the command that was listed in the readme:
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g++ -std=c++11 -O3 -march=native -o ntzfind ntzfind.cpp
All good so far
Whenever I try to run it (using ./ntzfind, I think?), I get an error that says "floating point exception (core dumped)."
Try the following command to get usage instructions:
When I click on the .exe file that was generated by the compilation, it gives me a message that says "The program can't start because cygwin1.dll is missing from your computer. Try reinstalling the program to fix this problem." I have cygwin1.dll on my computer; I went and found the file in C:\cygwin64\bin and it's there. I tried reinstalling Cygwin and nothing changed. How do I fix this?
You need to run programs built with Cygwin from the Cygwin terminal, so this error is not unexpected.
Re: Help running ntzfind
Posted: March 12th, 2020, 4:10 am
by globins
I get it now. Thanks!
I just ran a search for an expansion of this partial spaceship in B36/S1258 and it returned a result instantly, claiming that it already was a spaceship (it's not).
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x = 23, y = 14, rule = B36/S1258
4$6b5o$7b3o!
Did I do something wrong? Here's what my initrows.txt looked like, which I generated using Sokwe's python script:
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ooo
o.o
oo.
o.o
oo.
oo.
.o.
.oo
o.o
o.o
.oo
...
oo.
...
My command looked like
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ntzfind B36/S1258 p7 k1 w3 u e initrows.txt
Re: Help running ntzfind
Posted: March 12th, 2020, 1:20 pm
by wildmyron
globins wrote: March 12th, 2020, 4:10 am
I just ran a search for an expansion of this partial spaceship in B36/S1258 and it returned a result instantly, claiming that it already was a spaceship (it's not).
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x = 23, y = 14, rule = B36/S1258
4$6b5o$7b3o!
Did I do something wrong? Here's what my initrows.txt looked like, which I generated using Sokwe's python script:
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ooo
o.o
oo.
o.o
oo.
oo.
.o.
.oo
o.o
o.o
.oo
...
oo.
...
This is pretty much all correct, except that the initial partial isn't long enough to generate a valid set of initial rows. As a rough guide you need p-k+1 extra rows in a single phase partial to generate the initial rows across all phases. So providing the set of rows you generated to zfind results in it finding a spaceship tail that moves at c/7, but it doesn't match a valid frontend. For such a short partial you could try selecting the row three ahead of the front row and running get-rows.py with that. It should generate a set of rows which are mostly empty but with that dot spark showing up in the later phases. You'll also want to start with a wider search. Here's the initrows.txt for width 5:
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.....
.....
.....
.....
.....
.....
.....
.....
.....
....o
.....
....o
.....
....o
This search finishes pretty quickly, but gives the following partial:
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x = 9, y = 9, rule = B36/S1258
2b5o$3b3o2$b7o$2obobob2o$4bo$4bo$2bobobo$2obobob2o!
My command looked like
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ntzfind B36/S1258 p7 k1 w3 u e initrows.txt
This part is correct, except as mentioned above you'll want to run a wider search - at least w6 or w7.
Re: Help running ntzfind
Posted: March 15th, 2020, 11:25 am
by globins
I set a search to run overnight and when I looked this morning I had a “segmentation fault” message. What do I do about that?
Re: Help running ntzfind
Posted: March 15th, 2020, 1:41 pm
by wildmyron
globins wrote: March 15th, 2020, 11:25 am
I set a search to run overnight and when I looked this morning I had a “segmentation fault” message. What do I do about that?
Were you perhaps running a width 11 search? As noted in the README that requires a lot of RAM (up to 19GB for some searches). w10 requires somewhere between 2-4 GB. ntzfind grows the main look up table as required and if there is insufficient RAM at some point then it will crash.
For wider searches you can use gfind - though there's no easy way to specify a partial - or you can use JLS (or WLS on Windows). You can find links to these and other search programs here:
https://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=56#p56 and there is further information and running and installing them in this forum and on the wiki.
Re: Help running ntzfind
Posted: March 15th, 2020, 2:04 pm
by globins
Yeah, my search width was 14, so it's no wonder it crashed.
You recommended using gfind for larger widths. What's the difference between that and qfind?
Re: Help running ntzfind
Posted: March 16th, 2020, 3:10 am
by wildmyron
globins wrote: March 15th, 2020, 2:04 pm
You recommended using gfind for larger widths. What's the difference between that and qfind?
Please see my post on the other thread:
https://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic ... 234#p91234