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StateInvestigator thread
Posted: November 21st, 2019, 10:27 pm
by Entity Valkyrie 2
User:Entity Valkyrie 2/StateInvestigator
An extension of Life. How unpopular.
There is an enormous chance that EV2 is the
only lifenthusiast to use StateInvestigator.
Sigh... already failed two attempts to make StateInvestigator popular...
I hope someone has time...
Or maybe I haven't investigated enough?
Re: StateInvestigator thread
Posted: November 22nd, 2019, 8:10 am
by Moosey
The problem is that
1) it's very close to extendedlife and extendedlifefancy, and shares many patterns with both:
Code: Select all
x = 4, y = 5, rule = StateInvestigator
.2A$A2.A$3D$A2.A$.2A!
Code: Select all
x = 4, y = 5, rule = extendedlifefancy
.2A$A2.A$3F$A2.A$.2A!
2) self-promotion isn't very appealing
Re: StateInvestigator problems
Posted: November 22nd, 2019, 4:06 pm
by Entity Valkyrie 2
Moosey wrote: November 22nd, 2019, 8:10 am
The problem is that
1) it's very close to extendedlife and extendedlifefancy, and shares many patterns with both:
Code: Select all
x = 4, y = 5, rule = StateInvestigator
.2A$A2.A$3D$A2.A$.2A!
Code: Select all
x = 4, y = 5, rule = extendedlifefancy
.2A$A2.A$3F$A2.A$.2A!
2) self-promotion isn't very appealing
You tested only one state. Is a state that is different?
Test the patterns in
User:Entity Valkyrie 2/StateInvestigator in extendedlifefancy. Do they all work?
Aims for others:
1. discover a period-203 oscillator in extendedlifefancy that is at most 10 cells large.
2. discover a glider duplicator in extendedlifefancy with a repeat time of 50 or less that is at most 25 cells large.
3. discover a glider-to-herschel in extendedlifefancy with a repeat time of 60 or less that is at most 35 cells large.
4. discover a double-barreled glider in extendedlifefancy gun that is at most 25 cells large and period between 61 and 69.
5. discover a 90-degree reflector in extendedlifefancy that is at most 12 cells large.
All five had already been discovered by Entity Valkyrie 2 in StateInvestigator, so let's see how similar extendedlifefancy can get.
Re: StateInvestigator thread
Posted: November 23rd, 2019, 8:30 am
by Moosey
The only states that have no parallel in extendedlifefancy are those weird p2 ones
Furthermore, you did not discover a p209 in StateInvestigator; that was a p20
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Provably, all odd-period or p1 objects that work in Stateinvestigator work in extendedlifefancy, because extendedlifefancy has all of the nonperiodic cells that StateInvestigator has
I suggest you post the objects you found like the "p209" and then we demonstrate whether one can make them into extendedlifefancy
More demonstration that SI is similar to extendedlifefancy:
Code: Select all
#C from EV's page
x = 344, y = 271, rule = extendedlifefancy
272.A.A$272.2A$222.A50.A$220.2A$221.2A$103.A.A49.A.A$103.2A50.2A$104.
A51.A186.A$341.2A$342.2A$24.A$22.2A$23.2A$211.A47.A$209.2A48.A.A$52.A
40.A51.A64.2A47.2A$50.2A40.A51.A$51.2A39.3A49.3A$331.A$14.A.A233.C79.
A$14.2A314.3A$15.A29.A.A$45.2A$46.A$200.A44.E63.C9.2F$195.C2.2A45.E
72.E$41.A41.A51.A63.2A46.A65.E.E$7.A31.2A40.2A50.2A107.FA.2A6.F49.E$
5.2A33.2A40.2A50.2A58.E47.FA2.2A5.F48.F22.E$6.2A244.E49.F$76.E51.E61.
FA8.E118.A.A4.C$.E188.FA9.F108.E8.2A$3.2A36.2A158.F107.C10.A$E.A2.A
27.E3.2A2.2A29.A51.A120.E$.E.A.A27.FCEA.A32.A.A8.F40.A.A8.F184.2A$4.A
32.A34.2A8.F41.2A8.F59.C124.2F$82.2E50.2E114.EC$8.AF29.AF41.AF50.AF$
8.FE29.FE40.A.F31.FA16.A.F$82.F32.FA17.F$66.E$66.2F.E8.E51.E$77.2F41.
E8.2F25$219.A.A$160.A.A56.2A$160.2A58.A$161.A125.A.A$287.2A$288.A8$
17.A31.A156.A$15.2A30.2A98.A58.A.A$16.2A27.E2.2A34.A62.A.A56.2A$82.2A
63.2A125.A$43.E36.E2.2A189.A.A$274.2A$7.FA30.FA8.E28.E118.C$7.FA30.FA
9.F$50.F23.FA8.E49.C2.E$74.FA9.F179.C$13.F71.F$12.CF30.C147.E$133.E
58.E$78.C54.E60.A$135.A53.FA.2A6.F59.E$130.FA.2A6.F47.FA2.2A5.F59.E$
130.FA2.2A5.F57.E62.A$140.E116.FA.2A6.F$257.FA2.2A5.F$198.E68.E2$133.
E64.E$266.E2$138.EC53.E72.E3$194.C66.E$260.C7.C6$263.E$264.2F13$148.A
.A$148.2A$149.A2$207.A.A$207.2A$28.A179.A$26.2A$27.2A2$263.A.A$263.2A
$136.A127.A$136.A.A$136.2A$11.2F$11.E3.E$194.A70.2F$194.A.A69.E$125.C
68.2A73.E2F$17.E109.E143.E$13.A264.E2F$8.FA.2A6.F231.A28.E14.2F$8.FA
2.2A5.F165.C64.A$18.E106.A124.3A$120.FA.2A6.F169.2A$120.FA2.2A5.F169.
2A$17.E112.E166.2A$26.2F152.E116.2A$17.E162.E$129.E52.A56.C26.E$177.F
A.2A6.F52.E24.2F$12.E116.E47.FA2.2A5.F94.E18.2A$23.E163.E114.2A$10.E
18.2A15.A$29.2A15.A3.E73.E114.A$46.3A74.C11.E50.E47.FA.2A6.F$48.A90.A
94.FA2.2A5.F27.EF$12.E6.E.E115.3A46.E57.E29.C$16.E120.A3.E132.E$14.2F
102.FA17.A136.A$118.FA61.E61.E29.A.A$128.E51.C11.E71.EF7.2A$125.E2F
68.A46.E21.2E10.AF$124.FE68.3A80.FE8.E$123.CF69.A3.E73.2A$175.FA17.A
43.E33.2A$175.FA60.C11.E$185.E67.A23.2FE$182.E2F66.3A23.E$181.FE68.A$
180.CF50.FA17.A41.EF$232.FA60.E$242.E$239.E2F$238.FE$237.CF52.E$252.E
12.2A24.F$252.2FE10.2A23.FE$274.E5$74.A$72.2A$73.2A23$177.A.A$177.2A$
178.A6$285.A.A$285.2A$32.2F252.A$32.E3$19.A23.FE95.E$19.A14.A9.AF$17.
3A9.2A.2A121.2F$17.A11.2A2.2A86.F33.E$44.C76.F2$142.A23.FE$142.A14.A
9.AF103.A$140.3A9.2A.2A115.A.A$26.E113.A11.2A2.2A114.2A$24.C.2A11.E
104.E22.C$26.2F12.F$39.EC$263.C$13.C$9.2A$9.2A136.F.2A11.E$132.AF13.F
.2A12.F$.E130.FE13.2E13.EC94.E$.C145.FE2F107.E$10.E249.A$8.2F245.FA.
2A6.F$255.FA2.2A5.F$265.E3$264.E2$264.E3$259.E$258.C7.C6$263.E$261.2F
!
Re: StateInvestigator thread
Posted: August 6th, 2020, 4:50 am
by ColorfulGalaxy
I found a methuselah that lasts over 480000 ticks.
It's made by sticking a swimmer at the same place (or using "eternal on cells").
Re: StateInvestigator thread
Posted: August 6th, 2020, 5:41 am
by yujh
ColorfulGalaxy wrote: August 6th, 2020, 4:50 am
I found a methuselah that lasts over 480000 ticks.
It's made by sticking a swimmer at the same place (or using "eternal on cells").
This is a bit useless, though(Challenge:find a 2 cell methuselah)
To EV2:pls update the wiki pages of si.
https://www.conwaylife.com/wiki/User:E ... eriod_gunshas a bug for the p22 gun
Re: StateInvestigator thread
Posted: January 9th, 2022, 8:30 pm
by breaker's glider gun
fun eater:
Code: Select all
x = 8, y = 8, rule = StateInvestigator
5.A$5.A.A$5.2A3$C.2A.C$.D2.D$C.2A.C!
Re: StateInvestigator thread
Posted: June 5th, 2022, 9:31 pm
by HotWheels9232
Don't worry. I like the rule. The only thing I don't like is many patterns are chaotic.
Some oscillators:
Code: Select all
x = 229, y = 44, rule = StateInvestigator
221.3E.3E$221.E.E.E.E$221.3E.3E$E.E.3E214.E.E.E.E$E.E3.E214.3E.3E$E.E
.3E$E.E.E$E.E.3E2$191.3E$193.E$191.3E$191.E$191.3E4$192.2A3.2A$192.A
2.A2.A$100.3E$102.E47.3E40.A.M.A$100.3E47.E.E69.3A$102.E21.E.E23.3E
39.A2.A2.A23.A.A$100.3E21.E.E23.E.E39.2A3.2A$124.3E23.3E$126.E36.3E
52.2A7.2A$126.E38.E52.A4.I4.A$7.A155.3E52.2A7.2A$163.E$.A3.I157.3E$A
2.I96.3A119.A.A$3.2I94.5A118.3A$98.2AIAI2A$5.A92.2A3I2A21.3A$4.A94.5A
21.2ALA$100.3A22.A2LA$125.4A$153.2A8.A$161.A2.A$163.M.A$153.2M5.A.M$
161.A2.A$162.A$153.2A!
Edit 1:p51
Code: Select all
x = 15, y = 15, rule = StateInvestigator
9.A$8.3A$7.A2.2A$10.3A$8.2A.3A$8.AIA2.2A$8.3A2.A$2.A9.A$.A2.3A$2A2.AI
A$.3A.2A$2.3A$3.2A2.A$4.3A$5.A!
Re: StateInvestigator thread
Posted: June 6th, 2022, 8:00 pm
by dl-rs
UH...I think here's a p14.
Code: Select all
x = 9, y = 7, rule = StateInvestigator
$6.3F$3.A2GF.F$.C4.C.G$2.D2AD.2G$.C2A.FCA$3.G.G2.F!
[THEME Golly]
p30:
Code: Select all
x = 19, y = 19, rule = StateInvestigator
5.3A$3.2A.2A$4.A3.A2.2A$.A4.A5.4A$.2A.A5.3A2IA$A4.I4.A.2AIA$2A.A4.A.7A
$2A5.4AIA.A.A$2.A3.2AI6A$7.5A$4.6AI2A3.A$2.A.A.AI4A5.2A$2.7A.A4.A.2A$
3.AI2A.A4.I4.A$3.A2I3A5.A.2A$3.4A5.A4.A$6.2A2.A3.A$11.2A.2A$11.3A!
It busted my computer.
Code: Select all
x = 9, y = 9, rule = StateInvestigator
2.5A$.2AIAI2A$AI2A.2AIA$9A$.AIAIAIA$9A$AI2A.2AIA$.2AIAI2A$2.5A!
It takes LifeViewer 900K generations.
Re: StateInvestigator thread
Posted: June 29th, 2022, 8:20 pm
by HotWheels9232
p70
Code: Select all
x = 3, y = 1, rule = StateInvestigator
H.H!
p108
Code: Select all
x = 5, y = 5, rule = StateInvestigator
2.3A$2.AHA$5A$AHA$3A!
p118
Code: Select all
x = 7, y = 7, rule = StateInvestigator
4.3A$4.ALA$4.3A2$3A$ANA$3A!
Summary:
StateInvestigator and Langton's-Ant are the most oscillator-rich
p16:
Code: Select all
x = 10, y = 10, rule = StateInvestigator
5.3A$3.A4.A$3.A3.L.A$3.A2.M2.A$4.A4.A$2.A2.A$6.3A$A.N.A2$2.A!
p871:
Code: Select all
x = 5, y = 5, rule = StateInvestigator
2.A$.3A$2AH2A$.3A$2.A!
p129:
Code: Select all
x = 7, y = 3, rule = StateInvestigator
3A.3A$AHA.AHA$3A.3A!
p70:
Code: Select all
x = 3, y = 1, rule = StateInvestigator
3H!
Should I make a thread for spamming oscillators or something? I feel like I'm spamming this one.
p260 gun:
Code: Select all
x = 10, y = 16, rule = StateInvestigator
3.2A$A3.A$A.2A$.A.2A$A4.2A$A.6A$2.AH2A.3A$2.6AHA$2.6AHA$2.AH2A.3A$A.
6A$A4.2A$.A.2A$A.2A$A3.A$3.2A!
p26 whoohoo!
Code: Select all
x = 8, y = 13, rule = StateInvestigator
2.4A$2.A2NA$2.4A5$8A$.AH2AHA$.6A2$3.2A$3.2A!
Lasts over 1300000 gens:
Code: Select all
x = 4, y = 7, rule = StateInvestigator
3.I3$N$3.T$3.T$N!
Turns out, StateInvestigator probably isn't explosive
Re: StateInvestigator thread
Posted: June 30th, 2022, 7:03 am
by Entity Valkyrie 2
Could you please post these in the Extended Life Extensions thread?