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Quadratic Octagon Bloomers (QOB Rulespace)

Posted: February 23rd, 2018, 9:55 pm
by 83bismuth38
First off, there are many QOBS. The original is in the rule B3ai4a/S3ai4a5ai6ac7c8, and is this:

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B3ai4a/S3ai4a5ai6ac7c8
3o$3o$3o!
Some alternates include

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x = 5, y = 5, rule = B2ce3aj4ae6c/S1c2-c3ai4a5acj6acn78
2bo$b3o$5o$b3o$2bo!
and

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x = 5, y = 5, rule = B3ai4a/S3i4a5ai6ac78
b3o$5o$5o$5o$b3o!
Rules with qobs usually expand... a LOT. even if they are stable, they can grow to enormous sizes before stabilizing.
EDIT: this is also a qob, but it's hollow:

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B3ai4aw/S2e3aij4aiwz5iqry6an
3o$3o$3o!
it's also kinda dirty.

Re: Quadratic Octagon Bloomers (QOB Rulespace)

Posted: February 23rd, 2018, 11:29 pm
by KittyTac
Multiple bloomers in B3ai4a/S3i4a5ai6ac78 create intricate networks of "rivers" interacting.

Re: Quadratic Octagon Bloomers (QOB Rulespace)

Posted: March 28th, 2018, 8:57 am
by LaundryPizza03
Yet another one, this time with only B2ce.

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2cek3j4et5cy6k/S14ceq5eij6ace7c8
bo$obo$bo!
Is there anything interesting in these rules?

Re: Whitespace

Posted: January 28th, 2022, 2:32 pm
by Wyirm
What is it doing

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x = 42, y = 5, rule = B3ai4ac5ijnr/S3ai4ai5ai6ac78
40b2o$40b2o2$3o$3o!

Re: Quadratic Octagon Bloomers (QOB Rulespace)

Posted: January 29th, 2022, 10:38 pm
by Ohhhhhhhhh
KittyTac wrote: February 23rd, 2018, 11:29 pm Multiple bloomers in B3ai4a/S3i4a5ai6ac78 create intricate networks of "rivers" interacting.
They looks quite similar to 1D celluar automata. Maybe we can construct one?

Re: Quadratic Octagon Bloomers (QOB Rulespace)

Posted: January 31st, 2022, 8:17 pm
by Wyirm

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x = 7, y = 25, rule = B3ai4ace5eijnr/S3ai4ai5ai6ae78
5b2o$5b2o22$4o$4o!
I desperately wish this rule wasn't explosive

Re: Quadratic Octagon Bloomers (QOB Rulespace)

Posted: February 1st, 2022, 10:42 am
by May13
3c/113 spaceship:

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x = 8, y = 8, rule = B3aiqy4acentz678/S3-j4-ikt5aceiq6an78
3b2o$2bo2bo$8o$8o$b6o$b6o$2b4o$3b2o!
It can act as cleaner, but almost perfect:

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x = 21, y = 562, rule = B3aiqy4acentz678/S3-j4-ikt5aceiq6an78
3b2o$2bo2bo$8o$8o$b6o$b6o$2b4o$3b2o48$4b2o$4b2o9$4b2o$4b2o9$4b2o$4b2o
9$5b2o$5b2o9$5b2o$5b2o9$5b2o$5b2o9$6b2o$6b2o9$6b2o$6b2o9$6b2o$6b2o9$7b
2o$7b2o9$7b2o$7b2o9$7b2o$7b2o9$8b2o$8b2o9$8b2o$8b2o9$8b2o$8b2o9$9b2o$
9b2o9$9b2o$9b2o9$9b2o$9b2o9$10b2o$10b2o9$10b2o$10b2o9$10b2o$10b2o9$11b
2o$11b2o9$11b2o$11b2o9$11b2o$11b2o9$12b2o$12b2o9$12b2o$12b2o9$12b2o$
12b2o9$13b2o$13b2o9$13b2o$13b2o9$13b2o$13b2o9$14b2o$14b2o9$14b2o$14b2o
9$14b2o$14b2o9$15b2o$15b2o9$15b2o$15b2o9$15b2o$15b2o9$16b2o$16b2o9$16b
2o$16b2o9$16b2o$16b2o9$17b2o$17b2o9$17b2o$17b2o9$17b2o$17b2o9$18b2o$
18b2o9$18b2o$18b2o9$18b2o$18b2o9$19b2o$19b2o9$19b2o$19b2o9$19b2o$19b2o
34$3b2o$3b2o!
Edit: period-doubled, 6c/226:

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x = 14, y = 82, rule = B3aiqy4acentz678/S3-j4-ikt5aceiq6an78
3b4o2$4b2o$3b4o$3b4o$2b6o$2bob2obo$2b6o$4b2o2$3b4o$3bo2bo$3b4o$4b2o48$
5b4o2$5b4o$5b4o$4b6o$5b4o$5b4o$3b8o$4b6o$2b10o$3b8o$b12o$14o$14o$b12o$
b12o$2b10o$2b10o$3b8o$4b6o$6b2o!

Re: Quadratic Octagon Bloomers (QOB Rulespace)

Posted: February 1st, 2022, 1:12 pm
by LaundryPizza03
There's a potential family of c/4d objects consisting of a spacefiller core hassled by gliders, like this 5/20d:

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x = 9, y = 9, rule = B2i3-ekqy4aeij5ak6ain7e/S2ae3-ckqy4acjtz5aik6acn7c8
2o$b2o$o3bo$4b2o$5bo2$6b2o$7b2o$6bo!
This construction probably works better with some other c/4d.

Re: Quadratic Octagon Bloomers (QOB Rulespace)

Posted: February 1st, 2022, 11:46 pm
by GUYTU6J
As a start for interesting things, a glide-symmetric c/26d that doesn't need S2 and also makes a nice profile gif:

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x = 7, y = 7, rule = B3aijn4an/S3ai4a5ai6ac7c8
2bo2bo$b5o$7o$b4o$2b4o2$2o!
S3c makes an extra dot spark.

Re: Quadratic Octagon Bloomers (QOB Rulespace)

Posted: February 25th, 2022, 6:16 pm
by Herschel of Ostropol
does this count?

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x = 1, y = 1, rule 012345678/1e|012345678/1c
o!

Re: Quadratic Octagon Bloomers (QOB Rulespace)

Posted: February 27th, 2022, 4:45 am
by pzq_alex

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x = 5, y = 281, rule = B34a/S2e3air4ae5-nq6ac7c8
2ob2o$2ob2o277$b3o$b3o$b3o!
Ultimate fate?

Edit: Well it stablizes at gen 15929:

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x = 3995, y = 3723, rule = B34a/S2e3air4ae5-nq6ac7c8
1815b3o359b3o$1816bo361bo$1814b5o357b5o$1814b5o357b5o$1816bo361bo$
1815b3o359b3o103$1783b2o425b2o$1783b2o425b2o331$945b2o2101b2o$945b2o
2101b2o68$1022b2o1947b2o2$1021b4o1945b4o$1021b4o1945b4o2$1022b2o1947b
2o11$1457bo2bo1073bo2bo$1457b4o1073b4o$1457b4o1073b4o$1457bo2bo1073bo
2bo324$1500b4o987b4o$1501b2o989b2o$1501b2o989b2o$1500b4o987b4o1015$
1765b2o461b2o$1765b2o461b2o1107$155b4o3677b4o$156b2o3679b2o$156b2o
3679b2o$155b4o3677b4o141$66b4o3855b4o$67b2o3857b2o$67b2o3857b2o$66b4o
3855b4o11$2o3991b2o$2o3991b2o57$194b2o3603b2o$194b2o3603b2o350$87b2o
3817b2o$85b6o3813b6o$84b8o3811b8o$84b8o3811b8o$84bob4obo3811bob4obo$
86b4o3815b4o171$130b2o3731b2o$130b2o3731b2o!

Re: Quadratic Octagon Bloomers (QOB Rulespace)

Posted: February 27th, 2022, 4:30 pm
by LaundryPizza03
I've noticed that the standard QOB rulespace (pB2-a3ai4a5678/S0123ai4ae5ai6ac7c8) is much harder to apgsearch than whitespace, although it becomes somewhat easier if S6c is dropped to eliminate the odd-symmetric version. The even version works in pB1-c2-a3ai4a5678/S0123a4a5ai6a7c8.

Re: Quadratic Octagon Bloomers (QOB Rulespace)

Posted: March 13th, 2025, 5:40 am
by confocaloid
Is there a definition of "QOB Rulespace"? For example, does the following variation count?

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x = 47, y = 39, rule = R3,C0,S26-27,29-51,144-146,148-168,260-285,299,377-380,382-402,494-499,501-511,513-519,521,525,559,611-636,640,642-644,652,656,728-753,758-761,763,770,772-774,785-786,796-797,800,807,845-865,867-870,876-879,891,902-906,915-917,930,962-987,996,1022,1033-1036,1045-1047,1079-1104,1111,1126,1138,1141,1154,1164-1167,1196-1221,1271,1275,1281,1283-1284,1313-1338,1397-1401,1430-1455,1513,1515-1520,B39-51,156-168,273-285,390-402,507-519,624-627,629,631-636,641-646,741-744,746,748-753,762,858-863,865-870,877,891,975-987,1092-1104,1209-1221,1326-1338,1443-1455,NW000100000001000101757575010100750D0D0D750000750D000D750000750D0D0D75000101757575010100010000000100
45b2o$45b2o12$o$obo$2o8$40b4o$40b4o13$12b3o$13bo!
Wyirm wrote: January 31st, 2022, 8:17 pm

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x = 7, y = 25, rule = B3ai4ace5eijnr/S3ai4ai5ai6ae78
5b2o$5b2o22$4o$4o!
I desperately wish this rule wasn't explosive