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B35678/S (Interesting p2 phoenixes)
Posted: May 13th, 2016, 2:16 pm
by muzik
I've been searching this rule for a while. It runs preposterously fast on apgsearch (I can get up to 200000 soups/second on apgmera) so searching it really isn't a problem. (Although more people searching it at once will definitely lead to faster results!)
I'm mainly searching this rule to see if phoenixes with periods other than 2 can exist (although there are indeed many in Seeds and LFOD, they are explosive B2 rules and less closely related to Life).
Catagolue page:
https://catagolue.appspot.com/census/b35678s/C1
Would ships be possible in this rule? Given the way it decomposes rapidly and barely ever escapes its own bounding box it doesn't seem likely at all, but the
glider database doesn't give any specific reasons why there couldn't be.
Re: B35678/S (Interesting p2 phoenixes)
Posted: May 13th, 2016, 10:05 pm
by velcrorex
Here are oscillators of periods 4, 6 and 8. Found with wls.
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x = 30, y = 44, rule = B35678/S
3bo5bo$5bobo$2b2o2bo2b2o$2bobobobobo$obob2ob2obobo$obob2ob2obobo$2bobo
bobobo$2b2o2bo2b2o$5bobo$3bo5bo7$4bo5bob2o$b3ob2obo2bo$4b2obobo2b3o$2b
2ob2o4bo$5bo2bobo$5bo2bobo$2b2ob2o4bo$4b2obobo2b3o$b3ob2obo2bo$4bo5bob
2o8$15bo$2b3ob4o2b3ob3o2b4ob3o$2bo3b2obo11bob2o3bo$2b4obob5o2b2ob3obob
4o$bo5bobo4b2o7bobo3bo$2b2obobo3b2obobo2bobobo3b2o$bo5bobo4b2o7bobo3bo
$2b4obob5o2b2ob3obob4o$2bo3b2obo11bob2o3bo$2b3ob4o2b3ob3o2b4ob3o$15bo!
Re: B35678/S (Interesting p2 phoenixes)
Posted: May 14th, 2016, 2:03 pm
by muzik
velcrorex wrote:Here are oscillators of periods 4, 6 and 8. Found with wls.
So those periods can exist in b3 rules... nice.
I'm kind of surprised that p4 hasn't appeared in a soup yet (especially with my haul size), considering how small it is.
EDIT: I see you found a bunch, but then again those are from symmetric soups...
Re: B35678/S (Interesting p2 phoenixes)
Posted: May 18th, 2016, 3:41 am
by muzik
We now have a p4!
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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B35678/S
oboobbobbooboooo$
boobbbboobbbboob$
ooooobbbbbbbooob$
obbooboooooboobb$
bbooboobooooooob$
bobobbboboobobbb$
ooobboboobobbbob$
bbbbbobboobbbobo$
bbbbbbbbooooboob$
bobbobboboobbboo$
bbobobooobbooobb$
bbobbbbbbbboobbb$
obbbobbboobboooo$
oboboooboobbboob$
bobbbboooooobbob$
ooooooooooooooob!
Re: B35678/S (Interesting p2 phoenixes)
Posted: September 1st, 2016, 7:52 pm
by muzik
Currently searching for xp10s.
What is the biggest apghaul you can submit in this rule?
EDIT: 100,000,000 soups would roughly equate to half the amount of objects in my usual CGoL haul submissions.
Re: B35678/S (Interesting p2 phoenixes)
Posted: September 3rd, 2016, 2:59 am
by Bullet51
P10:
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x = 18, y = 18, rule = B35678/S
6bo4bo2bo$3bob2ob2ob2obo$3bo8bobo$12o2b3o$12bobo$b2ob2ob6obobo$2obobob
o6bob2o$3bobobob4obo$bobobobo4bobobo$bobobo4bobobobo$3bob4obobobo$2obo
6bobobob2o$bobob6ob2ob2o$3bobo$b3o2b12o$3bobo8bo$3bob2ob2ob2obo$3bo2bo
4bo!
Re: B35678/S (Interesting p2 phoenixes)
Posted: September 3rd, 2016, 4:08 am
by GUYTU6J
Agar
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x = 10, y = 10, rule = B35678/S:T10,10
bob3o$3o5bo$5bob3o$2bob3o$b3o5bo$o5bob2o$3bob3o$ob3o$2o5bobo$4bob3o!
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x = 12, y = 6, rule = B35678/S:T12,6
o3b2ob2o$2b2ob2o3bo$2ob2o3bo$b2o3bo3b2o$o3bo3b2obo$2bo3b2ob2o!
Re: B35678/S (Interesting p2 phoenixes)
Posted: September 3rd, 2016, 12:56 pm
by muzik
Agar
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x = 9, y = 6, rule = B35678/S
bobobobo$bobobobo$obobobobo$obobobobo$bobobobo$bobobobo!
Stabilisation of this
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x = 19, y = 12, rule = B35678/S
2bobo3bobo3bobo$obobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobo$bobobobobobobo
bobo$bobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobo$bobobo
bobobobobobo$bobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobob
o$2bobo3bobo3bobo!
Another agar stabilisation.
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x = 13, y = 13, rule = B35678/S
9bobo$2bo2bo2bo2b2o$b2ob2ob2o$9bobo$2bo2bo2b2o$b2ob2ob4o2$2bo2bo2bobo$
b2ob2ob2o$o2b3o3b2o$5bobobo$2obo$bo!
Re: B35678/S (Interesting p2 phoenixes)
Posted: September 9th, 2016, 11:04 am
by muzik
Barberpole stabilisation
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x = 43, y = 41, rule = B35678/S
bo$2obo2$bobobo2$bo3bobo2$2o5bobo2$obo6bobo$bo$b3o7bobo2$13bobo2$15bob
o2$17bobo2$19bobo2$21bobo2$23bobo2$25bobo2$27bobo2$29bobo7b3o$41bo$31b
obo6bobo2$33bobo5b2o2$35bobo3bo2$37bobobo2$39bob2o$41bo!
Microscopic p4:
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x = 9, y = 7, rule = B35678/S
2bo3bo$obo3bobo$3bobo$bo2bo2bo$3bobo$obobobobo$2bo3bo!
another stabilisation:
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x = 47, y = 86, rule = B35678/S
37bob2obo$36b2o2bo3bo$44bo$37bobo2bo3bo$38bo4bobo$36b3o2bo3bo$42bo$40b
o$41bo$39bo$40bo$38bo$39bo$37bo$38bo$36bo$37bo$35bo$36bo$34bo$35bo$33b
o$34bo$32bo$33bo$31bo$32bo$30bo$31bo$29bo$30bo$28bo$29bo$27bo$28bo$26b
o$27bo$25bo$26bo$24bo$25bo$23bo$24bo$22bo$23bo$21bo$22bo$20bo$21bo$19b
o$20bo$18bo$19bo$17bo$18bo$16bo$17bo$15bo$16bo$14bo$15bo$13bo$14bo$12b
o$13bo$11bo$12bo$10bo$11bo$9bo$10bo$8bo$9bo$7bo$8bo$6bo$7bo$5bo$6bo$4b
o$bo3bo2b3o$bobo4bo$o3bo2bobo$2bo$2bo3bo2b2o$4bob2obo!
Guess what, another:
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x = 27, y = 55, rule = B35678/S
o3bo$obobobo$2o4bo$4bobo$b2o2$2b2o2$3b2o2$4b2o2$5b2o2$6b2o2$7b2o2$8b2o
2$9b2o2$10b2o2$11b2o2$12b2o2$13b2o2$14b2o2$15b2o2$16b2o2$17b2o2$18b2o
2$19b2o2$20b2o2$21b2o2$22b2o2$23b2o2$24b2o$20bobo$20bo4b2o$20bobobobo$
22bo3bo!
Where do I even put these:
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x = 40, y = 45, rule = B35678/S
bobo2b2obobo$2o2bo3bobo$4bo2b2ob3o$bo2b2obo2$2b2o2$4b2o2$6b2o2$8b2o2$
10b2o2$12b2o2$14b2o2$16b2o2$18b2o2$20b2o2$22b2o2$24b2o2$26b2o2$28b2o2$
30b2o2$32b2o2$34b2o2$36b2o2$32bob2o2bo$27b3ob2o2bo$29bobo3bo2b2o$28bob
ob2o2bobo!
I'm tempted to start a wiki:
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x = 13, y = 39, rule = B35678/S
ob2ob2obo$2bo2bo2bo$9o2$3bobo$4bo$4bo2$4bobo$5bo$5bo2$5bobo$6bo$6bo2$
6bobo$7bo$7bo2$7bobo$8bo$8bo2$8bobo$9bo$9bo2$9bobo$10bo$5b3o2bo$7bo$5b
obo2bobo$5b2o4bo$11bo$5bo$5b2o2b2o$7bo$5bobobo!
Anothe stabilisation, this one found by hand:
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x = 27, y = 5, rule = B35678/S
24bo2$ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2obo$o2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo$3o!
Another handmade one:
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x = 43, y = 16, rule = B35678/S
3o37b3o$o41bo$obo37bobo$b2o37b2o2$2bo37bo$4bobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobo$3bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$3bobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobo$4bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$2bo37bo2$b2o
37b2o$obo37bobo$o41bo$3o37b3o!
Re: B35678/S (Interesting p2 phoenixes)
Posted: November 17th, 2016, 12:11 pm
by muzik
New natural p4!
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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B35678/S
bbooobobooooobbo$
bbbbbooobooboboo$
obooobobooooobbo$
obobbboooobbbobo$
obobooobbbboobbb$
bobbobbbbbbbbooo$
bbobobooboobbbbo$
boobbbooboboobbb$
bbobobbobbbbobob$
bobobbbobbbbobbb$
obobbobbooboobbo$
bobbbooooboobbbo$
bobbboboobobobbo$
oobbbbboooooobbo$
bbbbbboboobobboo$
obbbobbobbbbobbo!