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beginners 'discoveries' help

Posted: September 10th, 2015, 4:23 am
by burno55
beginners 'discoveries' help

Re: beginners 'discoveries' help

Posted: September 10th, 2015, 4:23 am
by burno55

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x = 9, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
$b2o$b2o3bo$5bo$b2o2b3o$b2o!

Re: beginners 'discoveries' help

Posted: September 10th, 2015, 4:49 am
by mniemiec
burno55 wrote:

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x = 9, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
$b2o$b2o3bo$5bo$b2o2b3o$b2o!
This reaction has been long known. What exactly do you need help with?

Re: beginners 'discoveries' help

Posted: October 28th, 2015, 9:35 pm
by burno55
What exactly do you need help with?
Can you tell what would be a still life, spaceship or oscillator before you see it?

Re: beginners 'discoveries' help

Posted: October 29th, 2015, 10:57 pm
by mniemiec
burno55 wrote:
What exactly do you need help with?
Can you tell what would be a still life, spaceship or oscillator before you see it? what makes a still life a still life?
A still-life is an object that remains just as it is, and never changes - i.e. it has no births and no deaths.
An oscillator is an object that changes (i.e. it has births and deaths), but after several cycles, it returns back to its original form, repeating forever.
A spaceship is like an oscillator, except that when it reforms, it is translated from its original location, so over time, it moves continuously in one direction.

These are very basic Life terms. You can look them up (as well as any other terms you find whose meaning you don't know), on the LifeWiki, whose link is at the top of this page.

Re: beginners 'discoveries' help

Posted: October 30th, 2015, 9:19 am
by dvgrn
burno55 wrote:
What exactly do you need help with?
Can you tell what would be a still life, spaceship or oscillator before you see it? what makes a still life a still life?
You can't tell if an object will be a still life before you see it, of course, but you can tell by looking at it, without running it in LifeViewer or Golly. In B3/S23, if an object has no neighbor cells that have exactly three ON neighbors, and none of its internal cells have more than four or less than two ON neighbors, then it's a still life.

Small oscillators and spaceships are emergent features of the rule. So above period 2 or 3, you pretty much have to run the pattern to find out what it does. There aren't any shortcuts, unless you're unusually good at tracking lots of cell states in your head.

With enough practice you might start to be able to guess again, about what very large oscillators and spaceships will do (e.g., Herschel loops, Gemini) without running them. But if a component is subtly out of place, you might be terribly wrong...!

Re: beginners 'discoveries' help

Posted: December 16th, 2015, 4:09 am
by burno55

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x = 24, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
3$3bo16bo$4bo14bo$2b3o14b3o$11b2o$11b2o!

Re: beginners 'discoveries' help

Posted: December 16th, 2015, 4:35 am
by Saka
burno55 wrote:

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x = 24, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
3$3bo16bo$4bo14bo$2b3o14b3o$11b2o$11b2o!
Err... Yeah, that's known to:

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x = 60, y = 51, rule = B3/S23
10bo11bo14bo11bo$9bobo9bob4o6b4obo9bobo$10bo9bobob3o6b3obobo9bo$19bobo
16bobo$8b5o7bo18bo7b5o$7bo4bo7b2o16b2o7bo4bo$6bo2bo10b2o16b2o10bo2bo$
3bo2bob2o10b2o16b2o10b2obo2bo$2bobobo5bo34bo5bobobo$3bo2bo4bobo32bobo
4bo2bo$6b2o2bo2bo32bo2bo2b2o$11b2o34b2o2$29b2o$29b2o$5b2o46b2o$5b2o46b
2o$5b2o46b2o$6bo20bo4bo20bo$5bobo20bo2bo20bobo$3obobo19b3o2b3o19bobob
3o$4obo48bob4o$4bo50bo2$22bo6b2o6bo$20bobo6b2o6bobo$bo2bo16b2o14b2o16b
o2bo$4bo50bo$o4bo48bo4bo$2o2bobo46bobo2b2o$5bob2o42b2obo3$5bo2bo42bo2b
o$5b2o46b2o$29b2o$29b2o2$11b2o34b2o$6b2o2bo2bo32bo2bo2b2o$3bo2bo4bobo
32bobo4bo2bo$2bobobo5bo34bo5bobobo$3bo2bob2o10b2o16b2o10b2obo2bo$6bo2b
o8bo2bo16bo2bo8bo2bo$7bo4bo34bo4bo$8b5o34b5o$18b2obo16bob2o$10bo9bobo
2b2o6b2o2bobo9bo$9bobo9bo4bo6bo4bo9bobo$10bo11bo14bo11bo$22bo2bo8bo2bo
!
What do you need help with?
(By the way the above oscillator is p246