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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: March 10th, 2016, 8:37 pm
by drc
Hey, that's pretty useless but still good!

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x = 8, y = 14, rule = LifeHistory
.2A2.2A$3.2A$3.2A$A.A2.A.A$A6.A2$A6.A$.2A2.2A$2.4A2$3.2E$3.2E2$.6A!

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: March 10th, 2016, 10:08 pm
by praosylen
I can't actually remember if I've posted this before or not:

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x = 8, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
4b3o$4bo2bo$2bobo$3bobo$o2bo$b3o!

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: March 10th, 2016, 10:38 pm
by M. I. Wright
I found this honeyfarm heisenburp pretty amusing:

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x = 9, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
6b2o$5bo2bo$5b3o$b2o$2o$2bo!

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: March 11th, 2016, 4:55 am
by mniemiec
M. I. Wright wrote:I found this honeyfarm heisenburp pretty amusing:

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x = 9, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
6b2o$5bo2bo$5b3o$b2o$2o$2bo!
The very first heisenburp reaction I ever remember seeing, many years ago, involved a honeyfarm hitting a glider in a manner very similar to this. In trying to see if it was the same mechanism, I tried looking up Heisenburp in the wiki and the lexicon, but both sources appear to have very little information on them (and the forums don't have much either). It may have been a similar but slightly different mechanism, as I don't recall the honeyfarm turning into two pis.

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: March 11th, 2016, 11:31 am
by muzik

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x = 33, y = 48, rule = B3/S23
bo$obo$b2o11$18bobo7b3o$3bo13bo8bo$2bobo13bo2bo4bo4bo$bo2bo13bobobo4bo
2bobo$2b2o15bo2bo6bo2bo$20b2o8b2o6$20b3o$4bo$3bobo12bo4bo$2bo2bo12bo3b
obo$bo3b2o11bo2bo2bo$2b3o15bo3b2o$4bo16b3o$23bo10$7bo$6bobo$5bo2bo$4bo
3b2o$3bo$4b3o$6bo!
Are there any other oscillators that follow this order of still lifes?

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: March 11th, 2016, 6:09 pm
by drc
Failed heisenburp puffer (observe gen 232):

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x = 14, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
b4o$6o$4ob2o$4b2o3$10b4o$9bo3bo$13bo$5b2o2bo2bo$5b3o$5b2o2bo2bo$13bo$
9bo3bo$10b4o!

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: March 12th, 2016, 11:58 am
by gmc_nxtman
Not sure if I've posted this (probably not completable) partial 56P6H1V0 predecessor before:

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x = 44, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
19bo$17bobo$18b2o4$22b2o$22b2o2$20b4o$9bobo7bo4bo7bobo$10b2o3b2o2b2o2b
2o2b2o3b2o$10bo5bo3bo2bo3bo5bo$8bo7bobo6bobo7bo$8b2o7b10o7b2o$7bobo24b
obo$3o16b2o2b2o16b3o$2bo16b2o2b2o16bo$bo40bo!

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: March 12th, 2016, 7:38 pm
by muzik
muzik wrote:

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x = 33, y = 48, rule = B3/S23
bo$obo$b2o11$18bobo7b3o$3bo13bo8bo$2bobo13bo2bo4bo4bo$bo2bo13bobobo4bo
2bobo$2b2o15bo2bo6bo2bo$20b2o8b2o6$20b3o$4bo$3bobo12bo4bo$2bo2bo12bo3b
obo$bo3b2o11bo2bo2bo$2b3o15bo3b2o$4bo16b3o$23bo10$7bo$6bobo$5bo2bo$4bo
3b2o$3bo$4b3o$6bo!
Are there any other oscillators that follow this order of still lifes?
Can someone please answer my question?

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: March 12th, 2016, 7:43 pm
by muzik
A way to almost double the life of r pentomino:

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x = 60, y = 42, rule = B3/S23
58bo$57b3o$57bo37$b2o$o2bo$b2o!

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: March 12th, 2016, 8:07 pm
by BlinkerSpawn
muzik wrote:
muzik wrote:

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x = 33, y = 48, rule = B3/S23
bo$obo$b2o11$18bobo7b3o$3bo13bo8bo$2bobo13bo2bo4bo4bo$bo2bo13bobobo4bo
2bobo$2b2o15bo2bo6bo2bo$20b2o8b2o6$20b3o$4bo$3bobo12bo4bo$2bo2bo12bo3b
obo$bo3b2o11bo2bo2bo$2b3o15bo3b2o$4bo16b3o$23bo10$7bo$6bobo$5bo2bo$4bo
3b2o$3bo$4b3o$6bo!
Are there any other oscillators that follow this order of still lifes?
Can someone please answer my question?
I believe somebody proved that a p3 with that stator was impossible... A for Awesome, maybe?

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: March 12th, 2016, 10:50 pm
by drc
muzik wrote:A way to almost double the life of r pentomino:

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x = 60, y = 42, rule = B3/S23
58bo$57b3o$57bo37$b2o$o2bo$b2o!
Oddly enough, only some work:

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x = 477, y = 234, rule = LifeHistory
84.2A$83.A2.A$84.2A15.2A$100.A2.A$101.2A15.2A$117.A2.A$118.2A15.2A$
134.A2.A$135.2A15.2A$151.A2.A$152.2A15.2A$168.A2.A$169.2A15.2A$185.A
2.A$186.2A15.2A$202.A2.A$203.2A15.2A$219.A2.A$220.2A15.2A$236.A2.A$
237.2A15.2A$253.A2.A$254.2A15.2A$270.A2.A$271.2A15.2A$287.A2.A$288.2A
15.2A$304.A2.A$305.2A15.2A$321.A2.A$322.2A15.2A$338.A2.A$339.2A15.2A$
355.A2.A14.A$356.2A14.3A$372.A28$477F41$67.2A$66.A2.A15.2A$67.2A15.A
2.A15.2A$85.2A15.A2.A15.2A$103.2A15.A2.A15.2A$121.2A15.A2.A15.2A$139.
2A15.A2.A15.2A$157.2A15.A2.A15.2A$175.2A15.A2.A15.2A$193.2A15.A2.A15.
2A$211.2A15.A2.A15.2A$229.2A15.A2.A15.2A$247.2A15.A2.A15.2A$265.2A15.
A2.A15.2A$283.2A15.A2.A15.2A$301.2A15.A2.A15.2A$319.2A15.A2.A15.2A16.
A$337.2A15.A2.A14.3A$355.2A15.A44$477F64$373.A$50.2A17.2A17.2A17.2A
17.2A17.2A17.2A17.2A17.2A17.2A17.2A17.2A17.2A17.2A17.2A17.2A17.2A16.
3A$49.A2.A15.A2.A15.A2.A15.A2.A15.A2.A15.A2.A15.A2.A15.A2.A15.A2.A15.
A2.A15.A2.A15.A2.A15.A2.A15.A2.A15.A2.A15.A2.A15.A2.A15.A$50.2A17.2A
17.2A17.2A17.2A17.2A17.2A17.2A17.2A17.2A17.2A17.2A17.2A17.2A17.2A17.
2A17.2A!

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: March 13th, 2016, 3:37 pm
by muzik

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x = 5, y = 3, rule = B3/S23
o2bo$2ob2o$2o2bo!

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: March 13th, 2016, 3:49 pm
by BlinkerSpawn
muzik wrote:

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x = 5, y = 3, rule = B3/S23
o2bo$2ob2o$2o2bo!
...What about it?

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: March 13th, 2016, 3:53 pm
by drc
BlinkerSpawn wrote:
muzik wrote:

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x = 5, y = 3, rule = B3/S23
o2bo$2ob2o$2o2bo!
...What about it?
Pretty sure it's a varying starting point of Thunderbird

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: March 13th, 2016, 3:55 pm
by muzik
The good old table nudging beehive reaction, has a spaceship been made with this yet?

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x = 5, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
2bo$2bo$2bo$b3o5$2bo$bobo$bobo$2bo2$b3o$o3bo$2ob2o!

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: March 13th, 2016, 9:25 pm
by praosylen
BlinkerSpawn wrote:
muzik wrote:
muzik wrote:

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x = 33, y = 48, rule = B3/S23
bo$obo$b2o11$18bobo7b3o$3bo13bo8bo$2bobo13bo2bo4bo4bo$bo2bo13bobobo4bo
2bobo$2b2o15bo2bo6bo2bo$20b2o8b2o6$20b3o$4bo$3bobo12bo4bo$2bo2bo12bo3b
obo$bo3b2o11bo2bo2bo$2b3o15bo3b2o$4bo16b3o$23bo10$7bo$6bobo$5bo2bo$4bo
3b2o$3bo$4b3o$6bo!
Are there any other oscillators that follow this order of still lifes?
Can someone please answer my question?
I believe somebody proved that a p3 with that stator was impossible... A for Awesome, maybe?
Unless I'm somehow mistaken, I don't believe I did.

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: March 14th, 2016, 9:16 am
by muzik
One time reflector

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x = 16, y = 88, rule = B3/S23
6bo$6bobo$6b2o$2o$obo$2bo$2b3o$5bo$4b2o5$14b2o$13bobo$13bo$11b3o$10bo$
10b2o5$2o$obo$2bo$2b3o$5bo$4b2o5$14b2o$13bobo$13bo$11b3o$10bo$10b2o5$
2o$obo$2bo$2b3o$5bo$4b2o5$14b2o$13bobo$13bo$11b3o$10bo$10b2o5$2o$obo$
2bo$2b3o$5bo$4b2o5$14b2o$13bobo$13bo$11b3o$10bo$10b2o4$b2o$bobo$3bo$3b
3o$6bo$5b2o!

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: March 15th, 2016, 11:07 pm
by isaacg
muzik, these posts are so useless they're not even interesting. One time reflectors are very much a time a dozen.

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: March 15th, 2016, 11:18 pm
by Hdjensofjfnen
muzik wrote:One time reflector

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x = 16, y = 88, rule = B3/S23
6bo$6bobo$6b2o$2o$obo$2bo$2b3o$5bo$4b2o5$14b2o$13bobo$13bo$11b3o$10bo$
10b2o5$2o$obo$2bo$2b3o$5bo$4b2o5$14b2o$13bobo$13bo$11b3o$10bo$10b2o5$
2o$obo$2bo$2b3o$5bo$4b2o5$14b2o$13bobo$13bo$11b3o$10bo$10b2o5$2o$obo$
2bo$2b3o$5bo$4b2o5$14b2o$13bobo$13bo$11b3o$10bo$10b2o4$b2o$bobo$3bo$3b
3o$6bo$5b2o!
However, it does show that the still life can be a reflector!

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: March 16th, 2016, 10:37 am
by praosylen
The strangest front end on a partial I've ever seen:

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x = 15, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
7bo$7bo$7bo$7bo$3b2o2bo2b2o$7bo$2b2o7b2o$3bo7bo$2bob2obob2obo$b2o3bobo
3b2o$b3obo3bob3o$2o3bo3bo3b2o$4b7o2$2b3o5b3o2$o4bo3bo4bo$b2ob2o3b2ob2o
$bobo2bobo2bobo!

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: March 16th, 2016, 2:27 pm
by Dean Hickerson
muzik wrote:Making still lifes is fun

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x = 10, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2o$bo3bo$2b3o$5b3o$2b3o3bo$bo3b3obo$ob3o3bo$bo4b2o$2b4o$6b2o$2b2ob
o2bo$2b2ob4o2$2b2ob4o$2b2obo2bo$6b2o!
Destroying them is fun too:

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x = 88, y = 89, rule = B3/S23
bo$2bo$3o4$3b2o$3bobo$6bo7bo$7bo4b3o$8bo2bo$9bo2b3o$10b2o3bob2o$11bobo
b2obo$8b3o2b2o$7bo3b2o3b2o$6bo2bo2bob3obo$7b4o2bo4bo2b2o$14b2ob2obobo$
9b2o4bobo2b2o$9b2o2bo2bo2bo$13b2obob2ob3o$16bobo2bo2bo$13b2obobo2bo2bo
2bo$13bobo3b3ob2obobo$23bo2b2o$21b2o2bo$22bob2ob3o$20bo3bo2bo2bo$20b2o
2bo2bo2bo2bo$25b3ob2obobo$29bo2b2o$27b2o2bo$28bob2ob3o$26bo3bo2bo2bo$
26b2o2bo2bo2bo2bo$31b3ob2obobo$35bo2b2o$33b2o2bo$34bob2ob3o$32bo3bo2bo
2bo$32b2o2bo2bo2bo2bo$37b3ob2obobo$41bo2b2o$39b2o2bo$40bob2ob3o$38bo3b
o2bo2bo$38b2o2bo2bo2bo2bo$43b3ob2obobo$47bo2b2o$45b2o2bo$46bob2ob3o$
44bo3bo2bo2bo$44b2o2bo2bo2bo2bo$49b3ob2obobo$53bo2b2o$51b2o2bo$52bob2o
b3o$50bo3bo2bo2bo$50b2o2bo2bo2bo2bo$55b3ob2obobo$59bo2b2o$57b2o2bo$58b
ob2ob3o$56bo3bo2bo2bo$56b2o2bo2bo2bo2bo$61b3ob2obobo$65bo2b2o$63b2o2bo
$64bob2ob3o$62bo3bo2bo2bo$62b2o2bo2bo2bo2bo$67b3ob2obobo$71bo2b2o$69b
2o2bo$70bob2ob3o$68bo3bo2bo2bo$68b2o2bo2bo2bo2bo$73b3ob2obobo$77bo2b2o
$75b2o2bo$76bob2ob3o$74bo3bo2bo2bo$74b2o2bobo3bo$79bob3o$81bo4bo$80bo
4bobo$80b2o2bobo$84b2o!

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: March 16th, 2016, 2:51 pm
by muzik
Dean Hickerson wrote:
muzik wrote:Making still lifes is fun
Destroying them is fun too:
This makes me wonder, how can you convert that signal into a glider? Keeping the machine intact of course?

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: March 16th, 2016, 3:34 pm
by dvgrn
muzik wrote:This makes me wonder, how can you convert that signal into a glider? Keeping the machine intact of course?
Technically you can't, because the machine isn't really intact after the signal goes through it. Its internal structure has changed, significantly and almost certainly irrevocably. You'd have to destroy it and rebuild it from the ground up to get the original state back.

So there's not much point in trying to extract a glider, because you have no possible way of doing it repeatably. Quite likely you could balance a boat or eater or something near the southeast corner of the pattern, and get a glider out without changing anything else about the reaction.

You could use the latest Seeds of Destruction Game for a while, and you'd be bound to find something. But the result wouldn't even merit posting in Useless Discoveries, really.

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: March 16th, 2016, 4:34 pm
by Dean Hickerson
dvgrn wrote:
muzik wrote:This makes me wonder, how can you convert that signal into a glider? Keeping the machine intact of course?
Technically you can't, because the machine isn't really intact after the signal goes through it.
Exactly right. We probably shouldn't even call it a "signal", since it destroys its conduit.

It is possible to extract a glider at the end while leaving a modified still life behind, but since this only works once, it really is useless:

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x = 77, y = 60, rule = b3/s23
bo3b2o$2bo2bobo$3o5bo$9bo$10bo$11bo4b2o$12bo4bo$13bo2bo$14bo2b3o$15b2o
3bob2o$12bo3bobob2obo$12b4o2b2o$16b2o3b2o$14bo2bob3obo$14b2o2bo4bo2bo$
19b2ob2obobo$20bobo2b2o$18bo2bo2bo$18b2obob2ob3o$21bobo2bo2bo$21bo2bob
o2bo2bo$22b2ob2ob2obobo$23bo4bo2b2o$23bob3o2bo$24bo2bob2ob3o$25b2o2bo
2bo2bo$29bo2bo2bo2bo$30b3ob2obobo$34bo2b2o$32b2o2bo$31bobob2ob3o$32bo
2bo2bo2bo$35bo2bo2bo2bo$36b3ob2obobo$40bo2b2o$38b2o2bo$37bobob2ob3o$
38bo2bo2bo2bo$41bo2bo2bo2bo$42b3ob2obobo$46bo2b2o$44b2o2bo$43bobob2ob
3o$44bo2bo2bo2bo19b2o$47bo2bo2bo2bo16b2o$48b3ob2obobo$52bo2b2o6b2o8b2o
$50b2o2bo8b2o8bobo$49bobob2ob3o15b2o$50bo2bo2bo2bob6o$53bo2bo2bobo3bob
o4b3obo$54b3ob2o2b2o3bo3bobob2o$57bo2bobob3o3bo$52b5o2b2o3bo4bo$52bo4b
2o2b3o4bo$55bo2bobo2bobobo$55b2o3bobo2b2o$60bobobo$61bo2bo$62b2o!

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: March 16th, 2016, 7:05 pm
by FractalFusion
dvgrn wrote:But the result wouldn't even merit posting in Useless Discoveries, really.
Personally, I wouldn't discourage others from posting in this thread. This thread after all is about "Useless Discoveries". It has also been for the most part a fun thread where anything goes.

More to the point, there are plenty of people who lack sound judgement when it comes to forum posting, and this behavior in general will not go away. It would be better for them to spam this thread, rather than spam other more important threads or the forum itself.