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Re: Soup search results
Posted: March 20th, 2016, 7:25 pm
by gmc_nxtman
P4 osc perturbed by boats:
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x = 16, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
o3b4o3bo$o3b3ob2ob2o$o3b2o3bob2ob2o$bob2ob2ob2o$4o5bo5bo$2b2o2b5o4bo$
4obo4b2o$2o2b5o4bo$8o$2o2bobobob3obo$3o2b2ob2o2bobo$2obob3obo3bobo$2bo
b3ob3ob2obo$3bobo3bob3obo$2obob6o3b2o$4b5obobo2bo$4b5obobo2bo$2obob6o
3b2o$3bobo3bob3obo$2bob3ob3ob2obo$2obob3obo3bobo$3o2b2ob2o2bobo$2o2bob
obob3obo$8o$2o2b5o4bo$4obo4b2o$2b2o2b5o4bo$4o5bo5bo$bob2ob2ob2o$o3b2o
3bob2ob2o$o3b3ob2ob2o$o3b4o3bo!
Symmetric p30 queen bee shuttle stabilized by bookends:
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x = 16, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
9o6bo$bo7b4o2bo$ob4ob2o4b2o$o2b2obo4b2obo$obobob2o2b2ob3o$bobo4b5obo$
2o5b2ob2o2b2o$obo2b4ob2o$10bo4bo$obo3b5o4bo$bo2bob2obo2b2o$2b3o3b5obo$
bob2o2b2o2bob2o$3bobob2ob3o2bo$2bob2obo3bo2bo$obo2b2o2b2o$2bob2obo3bo
2bo$3bobob2ob3o2bo$bob2o2b2o2bob2o$2b3o3b5obo$bo2bob2obo2b2o$obo3b5o4b
o$10bo4bo$obo2b4ob2o$2o5b2ob2o2b2o$bobo4b5obo$obobob2o2b2ob3o$o2b2obo
4b2obo$ob4ob2o4b2o$bo7b4o2bo$9o6bo!
And...
Heavyweight schick engine (unfortunately appears almost immediately):
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x = 16, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
o3bo5b6o$5o2b5o2bo$bo4b2o2b2obo$ob5ob3o2b2o$ob3o2bobo3bobo$8b5obo$o4bo
3b7o$2b2ob2ob3ob3o$4ob4o2b5o$2ob2o3bob6o$bob3o2bo5b2o$2o2b3o4b3o$2ob3o
2b2o3b2o$bob3obob2o2b3o$o2b4o4bo$2bobo3b2o2b3o$o2b4o4bo$bob3obob2o2b3o
$2ob3o2b2o3b2o$2o2b3o4b3o$bob3o2bo5b2o$2ob2o3bob6o$4ob4o2b5o$2b2ob2ob
3ob3o$o4bo3b7o$8b5obo$ob3o2bobo3bobo$ob5ob3o2b2o$bo4b2o2b2obo$5o2b5o2b
o$o3bo5b6o!
Re: Soup search results
Posted: March 20th, 2016, 7:42 pm
by drc
gmc, for #3 you put 3 code tags
Re: Soup search results
Posted: March 22nd, 2016, 7:31 pm
by Apple Bottom
Four MWSS flotilla:
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x = 16, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
oooobbobooooboob$
obbobbobbbobooob$
bbbobooobbobobbo$
oooboobboobbbooo$
bobbbooboooobboo$
obboobbobbboooob$
oooobooboobbbbbb$
bbooooooboobbooo$
obobbbooobobbooo$
oboobbbbbobbobbo$
oooobbbobobbbooo$
oboooobbobbobobo$
obbooobboooboooo$
oobooboboobbobob$
obbobbbbobbooboo$
obbboobobobboobo$
obbobbbbobbooboo$
oobooboboobbobob$
obbooobboooboooo$
oboooobbobbobobo$
oooobbbobobbbooo$
oboobbbbbobbobbo$
obobbbooobobbooo$
bbooooooboobbooo$
oooobooboobbbbbb$
obboobbobbboooob$
bobbbooboooobboo$
oooboobboobbbooo$
bbbobooobbobobbo$
obbobbobbbobooob$
oooobbobooooboob!
From
this haul.
Re: Soup search results
Posted: March 22nd, 2016, 7:34 pm
by muzik
You sure that's a flotilla? The two outermost don't interact with the main two
Re: Soup search results
Posted: March 22nd, 2016, 8:06 pm
by BlinkerSpawn
muzik wrote:
You sure that's a flotilla? The two outermost don't interact with the main two
Their histories are adjacent, however, and to avoid ambiguities and slowdowns Catagolue lumps them together.
Re: Soup search results
Posted: March 22nd, 2016, 8:16 pm
by gameoflifeboy
In that case, shouldn't
this be considered a single object too?
Or pairs of gliders whose histories overlap, for that matter?
The only difference is that the decompositions dictionary recognizes and separates those. For that reason, this should probably be separated too.
Re: Soup search results
Posted: March 22nd, 2016, 9:59 pm
by BlinkerSpawn
gameoflifeboy wrote:In that case, shouldn't
this be considered a single object too?
Or pairs of gliders whose histories overlap, for that matter?
The only difference is that the decompositions dictionary recognizes and separates those. For that reason, this should probably be separated too.
I wasn't making a statement on whether they should or should not, although I believe the latter; I was somply atating Catagolue's hardcoded policy for dealing with these sorts of problems.
Re: Soup search results
Posted: March 23rd, 2016, 8:49 am
by apg
That 'flotilla' should indeed be separated into three objects (two MWSSes and an MWSS-on-MWSS).
All apgsearch versions can perfectly separate an arbitrary disjoint union of standard spaceships (as accomplished by the function sss()), but struggles when at least one of the spaceships in the convoy is non-standard.
Re: Soup search results
Posted: March 25th, 2016, 12:07 am
by thunk
I think my computer is trying to tell me something, after that heart found in Coppersearch...
Double hearts, from my haul
here.
Seriously though, apgmera's symmetry options are pretty cool. Thanks, calcyman. ε><з
(though more would be even better!)
Re: Soup search results
Posted: March 25th, 2016, 8:04 am
by BlinkerSpawn
thunk wrote:I think my computer is trying to tell me something, after that heart found in Coppersearch...
Double hearts, from my haul
here.
Seriously though, apgmera's symmetry options are pretty cool. Thanks, calcyman. ε><з
(though more would be even better!)
Unless there's another way, this predecessor doesn't look too nice:
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x = 81, y = 41, rule = LifeHistory
75.A$74.3A$73.2A2.A2$18.3A$17.A2.A$.A18.A54.A2.2A$2.A14.A.A$3A15.A39.
A10.A4.3A$12.3A44.2A8.A6.A$58.2A9.A4.2A2.A$20.2A42.2A8.3A.2A$20.3A40.
3A8.3A.3A$20.2A42.2A9.A.A.A$76.3A$42.4D14.3A14.A$37.D7.D14.3A$37.D7.D
15.A$35.5D4.D$37.D5.D$37.D5.D$43.D2$61.A$60.3A$60.3A14.A$76.3A$20.2A
42.2A9.A.A.A$20.3A40.3A8.3A.3A$20.2A42.2A8.3A.2A$58.2A9.A4.2A2.A$12.
3A44.2A8.A6.A$3A15.A39.A10.A4.3A$2.A14.A.A$.A18.A54.A2.2A$17.A2.A$18.
3A2$73.2A2.A$74.3A$75.A!
Re: Soup search results
Posted: March 26th, 2016, 12:56 am
by thunk
In related symmetric soup searches, one of my D2_+1 instances found this p120 puffer:
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x = 16, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
obobboboobbobobb$
bboooboboobbobbo$
bboobbbboobobboo$
bobbobooobbbbbbb$
bboooobbbobooobo$
oobbbboboboobobb$
ooboooobbbbobbob$
bboboobboboboobb$
ooboboooooobooob$
obbobbobbobobbbb$
bobbbbbobbobbbob$
ooobbboboobobboo$
bbbobobobbbobbbo$
bboboobooobobboo$
ooboobbbboobbobo$
oboobbbbobbbbobb$
ooboobbbboobbobo$
bboboobooobobboo$
bbbobobobbbobbbo$
ooobbboboobobboo$
bobbbbbobbobbbob$
obbobbobbobobbbb$
ooboboooooobooob$
bboboobboboboobb$
ooboooobbbbobbob$
oobbbboboboobobb$
bboooobbbobooobo$
bobbobooobbbbbbb$
bboobbbboobobboo$
bboooboboobbobbo$
obobboboobbobobb!
This is the same basic structure (2 B-heptominos flanked by LWSS) as the p180 puffer, but the debris puts it in a different orbit or something. Makes sense that it would be similar to Puffer 1.
Re: Soup search results
Posted: March 26th, 2016, 2:17 am
by codeholic
Re: Soup search results
Posted: March 26th, 2016, 5:03 am
by mniemiec
thunk wrote:In related symmetric soup searches, one of my D2_+1 instances found this p120 puffer: ...
This is the same basic structure (2 B-heptominos flanked by LWSS) as the p180 puffer, but the debris puts it in a different orbit or something. Makes sense that it would be similar to Puffer 1.
Congratulations! The p20 engine is the same, but the debris interaction is different, resulting in a different census, and a different period.
codeholic wrote:My very first on these forums was about these puffers.
I wasn't aware of these until today.
Re: Soup search results
Posted: March 27th, 2016, 6:31 am
by Apple Bottom
Here's a pretty xp32 I'm not recognizing:
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x = 19, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
2b2o11b2o$bo2bo9bo2bo$3ob2o7b2ob3o$bo2bo9bo2bo2$2bo13bo$bo15bo$4bo9bo$
b3o11b3o2$b3o11b3o$4bo9bo$bo15bo$2bo13bo2$bo2bo9bo2bo$3ob2o7b2ob3o$bo
2bo9bo2bo$2b2o11b2o!
:
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x = 22, y = 35, rule = B3/S23
5bo2bo4bo2bo$3b3o2b6o2b3o$5bo2bo4bo2bo2$3bo14bo$2bobo12bobo$bo3bo10bo
3bo$2b3o12b3o$2o3b2o8b2o3b2o18$2o3b2o8b2o3b2o$2b3o12b3o$bo3bo10bo3bo$
2bobo12bobo$3bo14bo2$5bo2bo4bo2bo$3b3o2b6o2b3o$5bo2bo4bo2bo!
:
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x = 22, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
10b2o$bo7bo2bo7bo$bo7bo2bo7bo$obo4bobo2bobo4bobo$bo5b2o4b2o5bo$bo18bo$
bo18bo$bo5b2o4b2o5bo$obo4bobo2bobo4bobo$bo7bo2bo7bo$bo7bo2bo7bo$10b2o!
Re: Soup search results
Posted: March 27th, 2016, 11:43 am
by thunk
Code: Select all
x = 19, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
2b2o11b2o$bo2bo9bo2bo$3ob2o7b2ob3o$bo2bo9bo2bo2$2bo13bo$bo15bo$4bo9bo$
b3o11b3o2$b3o11b3o$4bo9bo$bo15bo$2bo13bo2$bo2bo9bo2bo$3ob2o7b2ob3o$bo
2bo9bo2bo$2b2o11b2o!
Wow, that's nice. It doesn't seem to be in either LifeWiki or the Pentadecathlon.com database, which would make it the second smallest p32 (68 cells) after Gourmet (66).
Re: Soup search results
Posted: March 27th, 2016, 11:52 am
by praosylen
thunk wrote:
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x = 19, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
2b2o11b2o$bo2bo9bo2bo$3ob2o7b2ob3o$bo2bo9bo2bo2$2bo13bo$bo15bo$4bo9bo$
b3o11b3o2$b3o11b3o$4bo9bo$bo15bo$2bo13bo2$bo2bo9bo2bo$3ob2o7b2ob3o$bo
2bo9bo2bo$2b2o11b2o!
Wow, that's nice. It doesn't seem to be in either LifeWiki or the Pentadecathlon.com database, which would make it the second smallest p32 (68 cells) after Gourmet (66).
I think I've seen it (or something like it) used as a glider filter before, but I'm not sure.
Re: Soup search results
Posted: March 27th, 2016, 1:36 pm
by Apple Bottom
thunk wrote:Wow, that's nice. It doesn't seem to be in either LifeWiki [...]
Remedied:
68P32.1 (I hope I got the naming scheme right, BTW!)
Re: Soup search results
Posted: March 27th, 2016, 2:05 pm
by Kazyan
A for awesome wrote:I think I've seen it (or something like it) used as a glider filter before, but I'm not sure.
It does appear in the jslife collection as the first p32 oscillator, so it's at least known.
Re: Soup search results
Posted: March 27th, 2016, 2:12 pm
by Apple Bottom
Kazyan wrote:It does appear in the jslife collection as the first p32 oscillator, so it's at least known.
Mark Niemiec
has it, too.
Re: Soup search results
Posted: March 27th, 2016, 3:40 pm
by Sokwe
I found that p32 on January 1st, 2010 in a random agar search.
Re: Soup search results
Posted: March 27th, 2016, 5:59 pm
by Extrementhusiast
In other news, an interesting spark coil variant in seven gliders:
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x = 29, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
17bo$15b2o$16b2o9bo$26bo$26b3o$4bo$5bo$3b3o6b2o$12bobo$12bo9b3o$22bo$
23bo4$b2o4b2o$obo3bobo$2bo5bo!
It can also be silenced for the same cost: just move the two rightmost gliders left one space.
Re: Soup search results
Posted: March 28th, 2016, 1:24 am
by mniemiec
Extrementhusiast wrote:In other news, an interesting spark coil variant in seven gliders:
Code: Select all
x = 29, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
17bo$15b2o$16b2o9bo$26bo$26b3o$4bo$5bo$3b3o6b2o$12bobo$12bo9b3o$22bo$
23bo4$b2o4b2o$obo3bobo$2bo5bo!
It can also be silenced for the same cost: just move the two rightmost gliders left one space.
Cute. Not to mention two more trivial still-lifes, sliding the inducting house up or down 2 spaces.
Re: Soup search results
Posted: March 28th, 2016, 1:38 am
by thunk
A fourteener snacker in d4+2, which inexplicably occurred before the regular kind:
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x = 32, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
booobboobobbbobbbbobbboboobbooob$
boooobbbbbobboobboobbobbbbboooob$
ooobbbobooooobobbobooooobobbbooo$
bbooooboooboooobbooooboooboooobb$
ooooobobbbobbbbbbbbbbobbbobooooo$
bbboobooobobbbobbobbboboooboobbb$
obooobobooboooobbooooboobobooobo$
ooobobooooobboooooobbooooobobooo$
obboooobboobbbobbobbboobboooobbo$
obbbbobbobboboobboobobbobbobbbbo$
oobooboooobboooooooobboooobooboo$
obbbbobbobbboobbbboobbbobbobbbbo$
bbobooobbbboboobboobobbbbooobobb$
ooboooobbobbobobbobobbobbooooboo$
boooboboobboboboobobobboobobooob$
boboboobbbooobobbobooobbboobobob$
boooboboobboboboobobobboobobooob$
ooboooobbobbobobbobobbobbooooboo$
bbobooobbbboboobboobobbbbooobobb$
obbbbobbobbboobbbboobbbobbobbbbo$
oobooboooobboooooooobboooobooboo$
obbbbobbobboboobboobobbobbobbbbo$
obboooobboobbbobbobbboobboooobbo$
ooobobooooobboooooobbooooobobooo$
obooobobooboooobbooooboobobooobo$
bbboobooobobbbobbobbboboooboobbb$
ooooobobbbobbbbbbbbbbobbbobooooo$
bbooooboooboooobbooooboooboooobb$
ooobbbobooooobobbobooooobobbbooo$
boooobbbbbobboobboobbobbbbboooob$
booobboobobbbobbbbobbboboobbooob!
Re: Soup search results
Posted: March 28th, 2016, 2:20 pm
by Extrementhusiast
Did somebody turn the heat way up on the rate of symmetric soup searches? I am seeing literally dozens of new symmetric oscillators being reported now, and that's not even including the pentadecathlon history intersections!
Re: Soup search results
Posted: March 28th, 2016, 2:43 pm
by thunk
Extrementhusiast wrote:Did somebody turn the heat way up on the rate of symmetric soup searches? I am seeing literally dozens of new symmetric oscillators being reported now, and that's not even including the pentadecathlon history intersections!
Yes, Calcyman released apgmera v3.2 recently, with support for 14 of 16 symmetries and speeds up to 50% faster than apgnano.
So I have twelve cores running symmetric searches, along with several others.
Edit: Now, the actual Puffer 1 (4x), from one of my d8_1 hauls:
Code: Select all
x = 31, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
booobbboobbobbbobbbobboobbbooob$
oobbbbbbooooboboboboooobbbbbboo$
oboooobbbbooooooooooobbbboooobo$
obobooooobobooooooobobooooobobo$
bboobbbbbooobbooobbooobbbbboobb$
bboobbooobbbbooboobbbbooobboobb$
bbboboooooobbobobobboooooobobbb$
obboboobbbobbbbobbbbobbboobobbo$
oobobooboboboobbboobobobooboboo$
bobbobobbobbbooboobbbobbobobbob$
boooobooobbooobbbooobboooboooob$
ooobobbbbboobbobobboobbbbbobooo$
bboobbbbobobbbbobbbbobobbbboobb$
boooboobooobbbooobbboooboobooob$
bboooobbbobobobbbobobobbboooobb$
oooooboobbbboobbboobbbboobooooo$
bboooobbbobobobbbobobobbboooobb$
boooboobooobbbooobbboooboobooob$
bboobbbbobobbbbobbbbobobbbboobb$
ooobobbbbboobbobobboobbbbbobooo$
boooobooobbooobbbooobboooboooob$
bobbobobbobbbooboobbbobbobobbob$
oobobooboboboobbboobobobooboboo$
obboboobbbobbbbobbbbobbboobobbo$
bbboboooooobbobobobboooooobobbb$
bboobbooobbbbooboobbbbooobboobb$
bboobbbbbooobbooobbooobbbbboobb$
obobooooobobooooooobobooooobobo$
oboooobbbbooooooooooobbbboooobo$
oobbbbbbooooboboboboooobbbbbboo$
booobbboobbobbbobbbobboobbbooob!