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Re: LifeWiki Trusted Account Request Thread - Post requests here

Posted: August 24th, 2024, 12:13 am
by Sokwe
jerfelix wrote: August 23rd, 2024, 12:15 pm Hi! I'm requesting trusted account status for the LifeWiki.
I've given you the trusted flag. As you and confocaloid already discussed and I think agreed, new topics should be posted to the forums first, from which they may garner enough interest to be included on the wiki.

Re: LifeWiki Trusted Account Request Thread - Post requests here

Posted: August 28th, 2024, 5:55 pm
by CARuler
I would like a trusted flag so that I can edit the oblique ship page

Re: LifeWiki Trusted Account Request Thread - Post requests here

Posted: August 29th, 2024, 12:47 pm
by FlutterWithKSparkler
A trusted flag for the user FlutterWithKSparkler is requested for editing purposes.

Re: LifeWiki Trusted Account Request Thread - Post requests here

Posted: August 30th, 2024, 5:06 pm
by confocaloid
CARuler wrote: August 28th, 2024, 5:55 pm I would like a trusted flag so that I can edit the oblique ship page
Please stop adding newly coined terminology to the wiki.

Your edits so far are these (which were correctly reverted) and these (made in the same page after your previous edits were reverted; these also should be reverted, because the page cannot list all speeds, and the page should not list names that aren't commonly used in an uncontroversial way).

LifeWiki:Notability says
To prevent overenthusiastic edits and conflicts of interest, a commonly accepted rule is that the discoverer of a pattern, inventor of new terminology, writer of a program, etc., etc., should not be the one to document that pattern, term, or program on the LifeWiki.
[...]
A new name for an existing pattern should not be added to the LifeWiki until it has been in common use for a year or two. "Common use" means regular uses in discussion, by people other than the initial proponents of the new name. In other words, a term should have become widely adopted in conversations about the pattern, in a way that shows that it's an accepted and uncontroversial term, well before any attempts are made to mention the term in LifeWiki articles.

Re: LifeWiki Trusted Account Request Thread - Post requests here

Posted: August 30th, 2024, 5:33 pm
by CARuler
confocaloid wrote: August 30th, 2024, 5:06 pm
CARuler wrote: August 28th, 2024, 5:55 pm I would like a trusted flag so that I can edit the oblique ship page
Please stop adding newly coined terminology to the wiki.

Your edits so far are these (which were correctly reverted) and these (made in the same page after your previous edits were reverted; these also should be reverted, because the page cannot list all speeds, and the page should not list names that aren't commonly used in an uncontroversial way).

LifeWiki:Notability says
To prevent overenthusiastic edits and conflicts of interest, a commonly accepted rule is that the discoverer of a pattern, inventor of new terminology, writer of a program, etc., etc., should not be the one to document that pattern, term, or program on the LifeWiki.
[...]
A new name for an existing pattern should not be added to the LifeWiki until it has been in common use for a year or two. "Common use" means regular uses in discussion, by people other than the initial proponents of the new name. In other words, a term should have become widely adopted in conversations about the pattern, in a way that shows that it's an accepted and uncontroversial term, well before any attempts are made to mention the term in LifeWiki articles.
sorry, but I kind of wanted to share my ideas for oblique spaceship names, I didn't see this until I made a big edit
might these be kept? I kind of wanted to use them, plus this wiki page isn't used often

Re: LifeWiki Trusted Account Request Thread - Post requests here

Posted: August 30th, 2024, 5:38 pm
by confocaloid
CARuler wrote: August 30th, 2024, 5:33 pm sorry, but I kind of wanted to share my ideas for oblique spaceship names, I didn't see this until I made a big edit
might these be kept? I kind of wanted to use them, plus this wiki page isn't used often
Sharing your (Life/CA-related) ideas should be done on these forums, not on the wiki. I already quoted parts of LifeWiki:Notability please read that page again.

The newly coined names should be removed. They aren't established commonly used uncontroversial terminology.

edit: for example check instead forum thread viewtopic.php?f=7&t=2636 "Create your own terminology"

Re: LifeWiki Trusted Account Request Thread - Post requests here

Posted: August 30th, 2024, 5:50 pm
by Sokwe
CARuler wrote: August 30th, 2024, 5:33 pm I kind of wanted to share my ideas for oblique spaceship names
As confocaloid noted, the place to share your proposed new terminology is on the forums, specifically the "Create your own terminology" thread. I've rolled back your edits to the oblique spaceship page. See here for your last revision, which includes all of your proposed terminology.

Re: LifeWiki Trusted Account Request Thread - Post requests here

Posted: October 3rd, 2024, 10:10 pm
by LittleLWSS
Hello, I'm back. I wish I can be trusted again. I will help you fix any errors in the original article.

If you want, you can also document this pattern(I call it Desk):

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Re: LifeWiki Trusted Account Request Thread - Post requests here

Posted: October 3rd, 2024, 10:35 pm
by confocaloid
What you mean by "the original article", exactly?
LittleLWSS wrote: October 3rd, 2024, 10:10 pm Hello, I'm back. I wish I can be trusted again. I will help you fix any errors in the original article. [...]
I oppose, considering that you are continuing to post non-notable stuff ( here and viewtopic.php?f=11&t=6723 ), despite earlier attempts to explain notability and forum rules.
LittleLWSS wrote: October 3rd, 2024, 10:10 pm [...] If you want, you can also document this pattern(I call it Desk): [...]
It is a non-notable 28-bit still life with apgcode xs28_4s3qq3s4z11622611. As far as I can tell, there is no need to "document" this particular still life.

Please re-read again LW:NB and the forum rules (in particular forum rule 4a).

Re: LifeWiki Trusted Account Request Thread - Post requests here

Posted: October 5th, 2024, 3:35 pm
by Hakerh400
Requesting a trusted flag for the user Hakerh400.

Re: LifeWiki Trusted Account Request Thread - Post requests here

Posted: October 5th, 2024, 4:08 pm
by otismo
Requesting a trusted flag for the user otismo.

EDIT :

It is going to take me a while to read everything confocaloid suggested.

Come to think of it, I really do not care to edit your wiki.

I will have to get my own wiki up.

But as long as your wiki is useful, I will continue to use it.

<3

Re: LifeWiki Trusted Account Request Thread - Post requests here

Posted: October 5th, 2024, 4:18 pm
by confocaloid
@ whoever is requesting trusted flag:

Please read LifeWiki:Notability, LIfeWiki:Style guide, LifeWiki:About.

The wiki is very different from the forums (in the content; in the way things are organized and presented; in the purpose; in the target audience).

Many relatively recent problems with newcomers editing the wiki are due in part to newcomers missing the point of the wiki.

Re: LifeWiki Trusted Account Request Thread - Post requests here

Posted: October 5th, 2024, 5:25 pm
by Hakerh400
confocaloid wrote: October 5th, 2024, 4:18 pm @ whoever is requesting trusted flag:

Please read LifeWiki:Notability, LIfeWiki:Style guide, LifeWiki:About.

The wiki is very different from the forums (in the content; in the way things are organized and presented; in the purpose; in the target audience).

Many relatively recent problems with newcomers editing the wiki are due in part to newcomers missing the point of the wiki.
Familiarity with the notability and style guide has been established. The purpose of this request is to obtain permission to correct any typos discovered on pages in the future, perform other minor edits, and share personal findings exclusively on the personal user page.

Re: LifeWiki Trusted Account Request Thread - Post requests here

Posted: October 5th, 2024, 9:38 pm
by dvgrn
Hakerh400 wrote: October 5th, 2024, 5:25 pmFamiliarity with the notability and style guide has been established. The purpose of this request is to obtain permission to correct any typos discovered on pages in the future, perform other minor edits, and share personal findings exclusively on the personal user page.
Trusted flag has been added -- welcome!

Re: LifeWiki Trusted Account Request Thread - Post requests here

Posted: October 6th, 2024, 10:23 am
by otismo
I might want to have a personal page though

I will have to think about it...

Re: LifeWiki Trusted Account Request Thread - Post requests here

Posted: October 6th, 2024, 10:43 am
by dvgrn
otismo wrote: October 6th, 2024, 10:23 am I might want to have a personal page though

I will have to think about it...
The way that this thread works is that new requests are honored by default -- the policy is basically "trust but verify". You had rescinded your request, but this message more or less reinstates it, so I've set your trusted flag.

Please do review the links that confocaloid has mentioned, though. There are common-sense limits even to personal pages; as a recent example, non-CA-related stock market details wouldn't be welcome on personal pages on the LifeWiki any more than they are on the forums.

Re: LifeWiki Trusted Account Request Thread - Post requests here

Posted: October 6th, 2024, 10:55 am
by confocaloid
dvgrn wrote: October 6th, 2024, 10:43 am [...] Please do review the links that confocaloid has mentioned, though. There are common-sense limits even to personal pages; as a recent example, non-CA-related stock market details wouldn't be welcome on personal pages on the LifeWiki any more than they are on the forums.
I'd like to interject to add that writing things like viewtopic.php?p=195516#p195516 (either in the forums or in the wiki) wouldn't be welcome either, to say the least.

EDIT by dvgrn: The thread linked above was a new topic titled "Evolve" by otismo, containing several not-very-well-thought-out insults aimed at the community at large related to "proper use of English". Two posts were reported for violating forum rules, so the thread has been deleted. Have sent the contents back to otismo in private-message form.

And yes, otismo, in response to one of your points below: these kinds of repeated off-topic posts with multiple forum rule violations do create an administrative burden on the moderator team. We'd really rather spend our time dealing with actual spammers, so please do be more careful about what you post.

Re: LifeWiki Trusted Account Request Thread - Post requests here

Posted: October 6th, 2024, 11:02 am
by otismo
this procedure must be creating an incredible burden of oversight

for those functioning as overseers

but Thank You

I promise to be extremely careful with my new privilege

if I even use it at all

you folks have created a marvelous thing here

and I do not wish to be a disruptive influence

in re the deleted stk mkt thread

I failed to record the final number of views

Re: LifeWiki Trusted Account Request Thread - Post requests here

Posted: October 6th, 2024, 11:07 am
by confocaloid
otismo wrote: October 6th, 2024, 11:02 am this procedure must be creating an incredible burden of oversight [...]
Without this procedure, the amount of needed maintenance burden would be higher than it is now.
otismo wrote: October 6th, 2024, 11:02 am [...]
in re the deleted stk mkt thread

I failed to record the final number of views
The number of views doesn't matter, because it's essentially random (web spiders / the same person repeatedly paging through the thread counted as many views / etc.), and because the entire thread was way offtopic and inappropriate on this website to begin with.

Re: LifeWiki Trusted Account Request Thread - Post requests here

Posted: October 10th, 2024, 9:52 am
by Arayaz
Hello, I'd like to request trusted status for the user Arayaz on the wiki.

Re: LifeWiki Trusted Account Request Thread - Post requests here

Posted: October 31st, 2024, 2:18 pm
by d/dx
finally making a lifewiki account!

can I have the trusted flag for user Derivative?

Re: LifeWiki Trusted Account Request Thread - Post requests here

Posted: November 15th, 2024, 5:23 pm
by bean
plz make me trusted :) its bean on the wiki

Re: LifeWiki Trusted Account Request Thread - Post requests here

Posted: November 15th, 2024, 5:32 pm
by dvgrn
bean wrote: November 15th, 2024, 5:23 pm plz make me trusted :) its bean on the wiki
I've done a search for username "bean", but the search is coming up empty. There don't seem to be any recent user creations with similar names.

(?)

Re: LifeWiki Trusted Account Request Thread - Post requests here

Posted: November 18th, 2024, 4:56 pm
by bean
umm im on the wiki i think im sure i joined

Re: LifeWiki Trusted Account Request Thread - Post requests here

Posted: November 18th, 2024, 5:34 pm
by confocaloid
bean wrote: November 15th, 2024, 5:23 pmplz make me trusted :) its bean on the wiki
bean wrote: November 18th, 2024, 4:56 pmumm im on the wiki i think im sure i joined
An account with the same name does not appear to have been registered.

Also, what do you want to do on the wiki?
Note that the wiki's primary purpose is collecting and explaining existing knowledge about Conway's Life. If you are a beginner, I suggest to spend some time on these forums, reading about what is already known and what are local conventions.
Regarding possible contributions to the wiki, read in particular LifeWiki:Notability and LifeWiki:Style guide.