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x = 28, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
25b2o$17b2o5bo2bo$17bobo5bobo$3o15bo7bo$o$3o!
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x = 221, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
204bobo$205b2o$205bo3$197bo$198bo10bobo$56bo134bo4b3o10b2o$54bobo98bo
36b2o16bo$55b2o96bobo35b2o19b3o$63bo7bo36bo5bo39b2o56bo$61bobo5b2o37bo
bob2o82bo5b2o9bo$62b2o6b2o36b2o3b2o36b2o3b2o36bobo5bobob2o$152b2o2bo
38b2o6b2obo11bo$64bo47bo38bo5b3o47b3o8bobo$64bobo44b2o46bo49bo8b2o$64b
2o45bobo3b3o$117bo96b2o$107b2o9bo38b2o39b3o6b2o5bobo$2bobo51bo49bobo
47bobo35bo5bo5bobo5bo$3b2o49b3o47b3obob2o42b3obob2o32b2o3bo4b3obob2o7b
o$3bo49bo49bo5bo2bo40bo5bo2bo30bobo7bo5bo2bo5b2o$53b2o48b2o5bo2bo39b2o
5bo2bo39b2o5bo2bo4bobo$3o108b2o48b2o48b2o$2bo$bo196b2o$199b2o7b2o6b3o$
198bo8b2o7bo$209bo7bo!Code: Select all
x = 16, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
obo$b2o$bo5b2o5b2o$7bo7bo$4b2o2b3ob3o$3b2o5bobo$3bo7bo$7b2o$2b2o3b2o$
2bobo$2bo!The last step can be reduced by 1:Kazyan wrote:A new component reduces the B29 synthesis to 26 gliders
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x = 221, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
204bobo$205b2o$205bo3$197bo$198bo10bobo$56bo139b3o10b2o$54bobo98bo54bo
$55b2o96bobo56b3o$63bo7bo36bo5bo39b2o56bo$61bobo5b2o37bobob2o82bo5b2o
9bo$62b2o6b2o36b2o3b2o36b2o3b2o36bobo5bobob2o$152b2o2bo38b2o6b2obo11bo
$64bo47bo38bo5b3o47b3o8bobo$64bobo44b2o46bo49bo8b2o$64b2o45bobo3b3o$
117bo96b2o$107b2o9bo38b2o39b3o6b2o5bobo$2bobo51bo49bobo47bobo41bo5bobo
5bo$3b2o49b3o47b3obob2o42b3obob2o31b2o4bo4b3obob2o7bo$3bo49bo49bo5bo2b
o40bo5bo2bo31b2o7bo5bo2bo5b2o$53b2o48b2o5bo2bo39b2o5bo2bo29bo9b2o5bo2b
o4bobo$3o108b2o48b2o48b2o$2bo$bo196b2o$199b2o7b2o6b3o$198bo8b2o7bo$
209bo7bo!Code: Select all
x = 69, y = 70, rule = B3/S23
13bo$14bo$12b3o4$4bo53bo$5b2o50bo$4b2o51b3o4$2bobo$3b2o$3bo62bobo$66b
2o$67bo$19bobo$20b2o$20bo$48bo3bo$46b2o3bo$47b2o2b3o6$34bo$32bobo$33b
2o$41bo7bo$39bobo5b2o$40b2o6b2o2$42bo$42bobo$29bo12b2o$27bobo$28b2o6$
17b2o$16bobo7bo23b2o$18bo7b2o22bobo4bo$25bobo22bo5b2o$56bobo$61b2o$60b
2o$62bo6$63bo$6b2o54b2o$7b2o53bobo$b2o3bo$obo63b3o$2bo63bo$67bo2$6b2o$
5bobo48b2o7b2o$7bo48bobo5b2o$56bo9bo!
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x = 23, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
12b3o3b3o2$10bo4bobo4bo$10bo4bobo4bo$10bo4bobo4bo$3o9b3o3b3o$3o$3o9b3o
3b3o$3b3o4bo4bobo4bo$3b3o4bo4bobo4bo$3b3o4bo4bobo4bo2$12b3o3b3o!
Discovered by you, apparently. Congratulations!Apple Bottom wrote:Another isomer of the "boring p24" finally showed up, the "uninteresting p24"
Aww shucks, thanks!calcyman wrote:Discovered by you, apparently. Congratulations!
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x = 49, y = 58, rule = B3/S23
10bo$8bobo$9b2o8$21bo$22bo$20b3o2$34bobo$35b2o$35bo2$34b3o$36bo$35bo
11b2o$47bo$45bobo$45b2o25$12b2o$13b2o$12bo5$3o$2bo$bo!
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x = 33, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
10bo$8bobo$9b2o2$31b2o$31bo$25b2o2bobo$24bobo2b2o$25bo3$19b2o$18bobo$
20bo$24b3o$24bo$12b2o11bo$13b2o$12bo5$3o$2bo$bo!
Or sometimes expynsiveExtrementhusiast wrote:(There's nothing to be said about how expinsive, exponsive, or expunsive it is.)
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x = 12, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
5b2o$4bo2bo$4b4o$2bobo2bobo$bobo4bobo$obo6bobo$bo8bo!
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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
ooobbbbbbbbobbbo$
boboboobobobbbob$
obbbbbobbobbooob$
bobbooobbboboboo$
bobobobboobooooo$
oboboobbboobbobb$
bobbbbbbobobooob$
bboooobooooobbbo$
bbbbobboooooobob$
boooobbbooobobbo$
booobbobobbbboob$
bobbobbbooobobbo$
boboobobooobobbb$
bobboooobbbooboo$
oooobbbobboboobo$
booooobbooobbobo!Code: Select all
x = 13, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
5b3o6$3bo5bo$2b2o5b2o$3bo5bo3$o11bo$o11bo$o11bo2$5b3o!Ooh, this means we now have a contiguous interval of attained still-life bit counts, namely {4, 5, 6, ..., 40, 41, 42}. As a straightforward corollary of this, I win an (empty) bet against Dave Greene.Alexey_Nigin wrote:The first 39-bitter has just appeared
I'll send you the required number of golden sovereigns immediately, then, flown individually across the Atlantic by the required number of Quetzalcoatluses.calcyman wrote:Ooh, this means we now have a contiguous interval of attained still-life bit counts, namely {4, 5, 6, ..., 40, 41, 42}. As a straightforward corollary of this, I win an (empty) bet against Dave Greene.Alexey_Nigin wrote:The first 39-bitter has just appeared
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x = 15, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
7bo$7bo$7bo4$4bo5bo$4bo5bo$4bo5bo$4bo5bo$4bo5bo3$3o9b3o2$7bo$7bo$7bo!That seed was actually too hard to put together for me, but this 16-glider method works:dvgrn wrote:Anyway, the new xs39 looks like a fairly easy glider construction. What's the best way to start up a couple of pre-traffic lights in close proximity?
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x = 15, y = 18, rule = B3/S23 7bo$7bo$7bo4$4bo5bo$4bo5bo$4bo5bo$4bo5bo$4bo5bo3$3o9b3o2$7bo$7bo$7bo!
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x = 76, y = 52, rule = LifeHistory
40.A$40.A.A$40.2A8$2.A55.A$A.A55.A.A$.2A55.2A10$32.A.A$29.3D2A36.A.A$
28.D3.DA36.2A$28.2DA2D38.A$31.A$29.3A2$64.A7.A$29.3D33.A5.A$16.A.A9.D
3.D9.A.A18.3A5.3A$17.2A9.2D.2D9.2A24.A$17.A25.A24.A$68.A2$34.2A28.3A
3.3A$24.D9.A.C$24.D9.A.D$24.D11.D31.C$14.2A10.2A17.2A17.2C.C.C.2C$15.
2A8.A.A.3D12.2A17.C.C.C.C.C.C$14.A12.A18.A15.C2.C.C.C.C2.C$62.C.2C.C.
C.2C.C$61.2C.C2.C.C2.C.2C$66.2C.2C2$36.2A$35.2A$27.A9.A$27.2A$26.A.A!
Note that that pair of pre-traffic lights is actually a pre-pulsar, making this likely doable with just eleven gliders. I'll leave it to you guys this time to actually synthesize it, before trying it myself.BlinkerSpawn wrote:dvgrn wrote:Anyway, the new xs39 looks like a fairly easy glider construction. What's the best way to start up a couple of pre-traffic lights in close proximity?
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RLE
dvgrn wrote:Anyway, the new xs39 looks like a fairly easy glider construction. What's the best way to start up a couple of pre-traffic lights in close proximity? ...
The cleanup can be reduced by one glider. Also, by fiddling with the position of the top glider in the initial synthesis, one can get different sets of debris, in several cases a 3/4 traffic light plus one additional object. It may be possible to shave a second glider off the cleanup by doing that, and having one lucky glider to remove the 3/4 TL and other object. (There is no way for a single glider to just remove a 3/4 TL here.) However, this is mooted by the following:BlinkerSpawn wrote:That seed was actually too hard to put together for me, but this 16-glider method works: ...
Here it is:Extrementhusiast wrote:Note that that pair of pre-traffic lights is actually a pre-pulsar, making this likely doable with just eleven gliders. I'll leave it to you guys this time to actually synthesize it, before trying it myself.
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x = 105, y = 35, rule = B3/S23
4bo$5boo$4boo$67bo$7bo58bo$7bo6bo51b3o$7bo5bo50bo$13b3o46bobo$3b3o3b3o
51boo3$7bo29bo59bo$3booboboboo21booboboboo51booboboboo$bbobobobobobo
19bobobobobobo49bobobobobobo$bobbobobobobbo17bobbobobobobbo17bo29bobbo
bobobobbo$bobooboboboobo17bobooboboboobo18bo7bobo18bobooboboboobo$oobo
bbobobboboo15boobobbobobboboo15b3o7boo18boobobbobobboboo$5booboo25boob
oo31bo23booboo3$66boo$66bobo$55bo10bo12bo$53bobo23bobo$54boo23boo$$56b
3o17b3o$58bo17bo$57bo19bo$63boo$62bobo$64bo$66b3o$66bo$67bo!
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x = 9, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
5bo$4bob2o$3b2o$3bob4o$3bob3o$4b2o$2o$2o$2bo$2o$2o3$bo$b2o$bobo2$2bo$
4bo$2b5o$3b2o!
I don't know, though -- there's a point of attack that's just two pi heptominoes (at T=36 and T=71) plus two beehives and a tub.BlinkerSpawn wrote:Yech.
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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
obbobboooboooobb$
oobbboobooboboob$
ooboobboobbbobbb$
obbobbbboobobbbo$
bbbbbbbbobbobboo$
boooboboobbbboob$
bbobobobobobbbbo$
ooooboooooobbboo$
boobboobbboboobo$
bbbobboobbooobbb$
bboboooobbboobob$
oobbooooobbobbbo$
obbbbboboboboobb$
oooooboboobbbbob$
oobbooobobbbbobo$
bbbobobobbboobbo!Code: Select all
x = 12, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
7b3obo$9bo$bo$obo4bobo$7bo$b3o3b2o$3bo$bo$o$3b2o$bo2bo$2o2bo$3bo$2bo!
Since this still-life can already be made with 9 gliders, it would require a lot more optimization (and luck) to beat that. Sometimes natural mechanisms yield syntheses that are cheaper than artificial ones, but more frequently, the setup required to invoke the natural mechanism (and/or subsequent cleanup) are more expensive than artificial methods, especially for objects with easy-to-make sub-pieces.dvgrn wrote:I don't know, though -- there's a point of attack that's just two pi heptominoes (at T=36 and T=71) plus two beehives and a tub.BlinkerSpawn wrote:Yech.
That's only eleven gliders, plus however many it takes to settle the mess afterwards. Maybe fifteen or sixteen gliders in all, with a little luck -- that's just barely over the old goal of one glider per bit. And I'm no good at glider syntheses so I might be missing a trick somewhere.
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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
bbbbobbboobobooo$
boobbbooooooooob$
bbobbboobobbooob$
booobooobbbboobb$
ooooobbbbobboobo$
bboobobbboobbboo$
ooooboobooobbboo$
bbbboobboobboooo$
oobbboobooobbbbo$
oboooooobbobbbbb$
obbboobbobbobooo$
bboooboooooboooo$
bbobboobbobbooob$
oobbobbbbooooobo$
bbbboboboboobbob$
oooobbbooooboobo!