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Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: January 31st, 2016, 6:35 am
by muzik
Making familiar fours with the lowest amount of cells possible, to my knowledge:

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x = 74, y = 4, rule = B3/S23
2bo54bo11b4o$obo14b3o15b2o18b2o12b2o2bo$2bo14bo2bo15b2o16bobo16bo$18b
2o17b2o15b2o16bo!

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: January 31st, 2016, 8:23 am
by mniemiec
muzik wrote:Making familiar fours with the lowest amount of cells possible, to my knowledge: ...
Two of them can be made even smaller. You should probably be familiar with the hoeyfarm predecessor, as it is the most common way that honeyfarms form (e.g. of all the 2-glider collisions that make one, all but one do it via this predecessor).

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x = 74, y = 45, rule = B3/S23
2bo54bo11b4o$obo14b3o15b2o18b2o12b2o2bo$2bo14bo2bo15b2o16bobo16bo$18b
2o17b2o15b2o16bo17$69b2o$18b2o49b2obo$17b2obo$19bo50b3o17$70bo$69b3o$
68bo3bo$72bo$71bo!

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: January 31st, 2016, 10:00 am
by praosylen
mniemiec wrote:

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x = 74, y = 45, rule = B3/S23
2bo54bo11b4o$obo14b3o15b2o18b2o12b2o2bo$2bo14bo2bo15b2o16bobo16bo$18b
2o17b2o15b2o16bo17$69b2o$18b2o49b2obo$17b2obo$19bo50b3o17$70bo$69b3o$
68bo3bo$72bo$71bo!
The middle bakery precursor can be reduced one cell:

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x = 4, y = 4, rule = B3/S23
bo2b$2obo$4b$b3o!

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: January 31st, 2016, 12:32 pm
by muzik
K, got it:

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x = 62, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
59bo$o24b2o18bo12b2obo$2o11b2o11b2o15b2o$o11b2obo11b2o13bobo14b3o$14bo
27b2o!
Also, anyone else noticed that three of the original methods actually involved adding one cell to the object that makes up the four?

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: January 31st, 2016, 1:16 pm
by drc
muzik wrote:K, got it:

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x = 62, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
59bo$o24b2o18bo12b2obo$2o11b2o11b2o15b2o$o11b2obo11b2o13bobo14b3o$14bo
27b2o!
Also, anyone else noticed that three of the original methods actually involved adding one cell to the object that makes up the four?
There's a pond familiar four, but I forgot how to make it.

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: January 31st, 2016, 1:33 pm
by muzik
drc wrote:
muzik wrote:K, got it:

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x = 62, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
59bo$o24b2o18bo12b2obo$2o11b2o11b2o15b2o$o11b2obo11b2o13bobo14b3o$14bo
27b2o!
Also, anyone else noticed that three of the original methods actually involved adding one cell to the object that makes up the four?
There's a pond familiar four, but I forgot how to make it.
Seen one of those before.

Are you sure you didn't make it through modifying an existing one?

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: January 31st, 2016, 1:47 pm
by muzik
Also, a 40 cell long line makes four boats, and 45 cell long line makes four bookends surrounded by random junk.

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: February 1st, 2016, 1:58 pm
by muzik
This makes a middleweight spaceship:

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x = 27, y = 22, rule = B3/S23
20b2o$19bob2o$18b2obo$19b2o5bo$25bo$19bo4b3o$4bo13b3o3b2o$4bo12b2obo3b
2o$4bo11b2o2bobobo$15b2obobo4bo$3o3b3o5b2ob2ob5o$17b2o6bo$4bo7bo10b2o$
4bo6bo3b2o5b2o$4bo5bo$10b2o$8b2obo$4bo2bo$3bob3o$3bob2o2bobo$4bo5b4o$
11b3o!

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: February 3rd, 2016, 10:28 pm
by Kazyan
There's a trans-boat with tail in this failed conduit:

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x = 32, y = 36, rule = B3/S23
19bo$17b3o$16bo$16b2o3$2o$bo$bobo$2b2o7$2o$bo$bobo$2b2o$6b2o$5bobo$5b
2o8$19b3o$19bobo$19bobo6b2o$28bobo$30bo$30b2o!

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: February 5th, 2016, 10:50 pm
by Sphenocorona
The loaf in block-on-loaf is turned into a long dock by an interaction on the wrong side:

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x = 15, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
3bo$2bobo$3b2o2$13b2o$13b2o$5b2o$o3bo$b2o4bo$2o3b2o3$9b2o$9b2o2$9b2o$
8bo2bo$8bobo$9bo!

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: February 6th, 2016, 12:41 am
by Bullet51
Somewhat interesting:

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x = 10, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
5bo$6b2o$5b2o4$4b2o$5bo2b2o$2obo4b2o$2ob2o!

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: February 6th, 2016, 5:19 am
by Saka
Labyrinth

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x = 21, y = 18, rule = Life
11b2o$10bo2bo$7bo2bo2bo$6bobob3o$6bobo$4b3ob5o3bo$3bo9bobobob2o$3bob6o
b2obobobo$b3obo4bobo2bobobo$o4bob2obobobo2bob2o$b3obob2obobobobobo$3bo
bo4bob2o2bobo$3bobo4bo5bobobo$4bo6b5o3b2o2$11b5o$10bo2bo2bo$10b2o3b2o!

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: February 8th, 2016, 6:40 am
by Kazyan
Have you heard the term "ragequit"? It's what happens when a video gamer gets so frustrated that they put the controller down and do something else for a while, usually because they almost succeeded.

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x = 22, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
11bo$11b3o$14bo$13b2o2$16b2o$2o13bobo$bo13b2o$bobo$2b2o2$8b2o3bo$7bo2b
obo$7bobo2b3o$2o6bo$2o2$15bo$14bobo$14bobo$15bo7$14b2o$14b2o2b2o$18bob
o$20bo$20b2o!

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: February 8th, 2016, 10:04 am
by BlinkerSpawn
An edgy carrier discovered while trying to find out if a 3/4 TL could be destroyed with 2 gliders.

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x = 11, y = 12, rule = LifeHistory
A7.A$.2A5.A.A$2A6.2A$4.A$4.A$4.A2$3A3.3A2$4.A$4.A$4.A!

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: February 8th, 2016, 12:37 pm
by muzik
Kazyan wrote:Have you heard the term "ragequit"? It's what happens when a video gamer gets so frustrated that they put the controller down and do something else for a while, usually because they almost succeeded.

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x = 22, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
11bo$11b3o$14bo$13b2o2$16b2o$2o13bobo$bo13b2o$bobo$2b2o2$8b2o3bo$7bo2b
obo$7bobo2b3o$2o6bo$2o2$15bo$14bobo$14bobo$15bo7$14b2o$14b2o2b2o$18bob
o$20bo$20b2o!
When I died at the last ship part at Clubstep on geometry dash... ahh good old days

Should be relatively easy to find something to replace the beehive that doesn't create the pesky beehive and blinker

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: February 8th, 2016, 12:40 pm
by dvgrn
muzik wrote:Should be relatively easy to find something to replace the beehive that doesn't create the pesky beehive and blinker.
... Yeah, but drawing the glider in there by hand every time I want to use the reflector is still going to be a little annoying.

I'm glad to see Kazyan is still out there Spartan-Snark hunting, though. Something is going to show up eventually (and I'll keep my fingers crossed that it's a color-changer, not a color-preserver like this one).

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: February 8th, 2016, 12:43 pm
by muzik
dvgrn wrote:
muzik wrote:Should be relatively easy to find something to replace the beehive that doesn't create the pesky beehive and blinker.
... Yeah, but drawing the glider in there by hand every time I want to use the reflector is still going to be a little annoying.
Doesn't golly have an undo button?

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: February 8th, 2016, 12:46 pm
by muzik
This looks really pretty:

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x = 11, y = 11, rule = 23/3
2b4o$bo4b4o$bo2b2o4bo$bobo2b2o2bo$bobo4bobo$obo5bobo$obo4bobo$o2b2o2bo
bo$o4b2o2bo$b4o4bo$5b4o!

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: February 8th, 2016, 2:14 pm
by BlinkerSpawn
muzik wrote:
dvgrn wrote:
muzik wrote:Should be relatively easy to find something to replace the beehive that doesn't create the pesky beehive and blinker.
... Yeah, but drawing the glider in there by hand every time I want to use the reflector is still going to be a little annoying.
Doesn't golly have an undo button?
The point here being that the glider can't enter the reflector from the outside.

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: February 8th, 2016, 2:22 pm
by muzik
What's the name of the pattern this evolves into? Made of varying sized triangles?

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x = 14809, y = 1, rule = 23/3
14809o!

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: February 8th, 2016, 2:40 pm
by biggiemac
muzik wrote:What's the name of the pattern this evolves into? Made of varying sized triangles?

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x = 14809, y = 1, rule = 23/3
14809o!
The Seirpinski triangle, or at least the lattice version. It has some cool mathematical properties, e.g. it is Pascal's Triangle with even numbers black and odd numbers white. It can be made by repeated XOR, which is how it arises in cellular automata. Someone has made a seirpinski breeder in Highlife if I'm not mistaken, possible because the highlife replicator strands naturally perform XOR on the strand every replication cycle.

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: February 8th, 2016, 2:59 pm
by muzik
biggiemac wrote:
muzik wrote:What's the name of the pattern this evolves into? Made of varying sized triangles?

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x = 14809, y = 1, rule = 23/3
14809o!
The Seirpinski triangle, or at least the lattice version. It has some cool mathematical properties, e.g. it is Pascal's Triangle with even numbers black and odd numbers white. It can be made by repeated XOR, which is how it arises in cellular automata. Someone has made a seirpinski breeder in Highlife if I'm not mistaken, possible because the highlife replicator strands naturally perform XOR on the strand every replication cycle.
Knew I'd heard that word somewhere...

(Also, house is technically a replicator in normal life, although it gets destroyed by the debris of the previous house)


I managed to make a tiny block puffer:

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x = 16, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
2bo$o3bo$5bo$o4bo$b5o4$13b2o$7bob4ob2o$7bo2b5o$7bo3b3o3$11b4o$10bo3bo$
14bo$10bo2bo!

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: February 8th, 2016, 3:26 pm
by muzik
And a way to destroy those blocks:

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x = 20, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
8b2o$5b3ob2o$5b5o$6b3o2$10bo$8bo3bob6o$7b3o3bo5bo$7bo5bo5bo$7bob2o3bo
3bo$8b3o5bo$16b2o$15b4o$b3o11b2ob2o$5o12b2o$3ob2o$3b2o!

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: February 8th, 2016, 3:55 pm
by muzik
I'm sure someone could make some use of this reaction:

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x = 28, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
14bo$12bo3bo$17bo$12bo4bo$13b5o$b5o$o4bo$5bo$4bo20b2o$19bob4ob2o$18b2o
2b5o$19bo3b3o3$23b4o$4bo17bo3bo$5bo20bo$o4bo16bo2bo$b5o!

Re: Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

Posted: February 8th, 2016, 4:36 pm
by muzik
Is there a unit of measurement dedicated to puffers? Because this one I just made is way puffy.

I get the feeling this has already been made before though.

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x = 17, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
bo2bo$o$o3bo$4o$6b3o2b2o$6b3o2b2o$6b3o2b2o$4o$o3bo$o$bo2bo8b2o$11bo4bo
$10bo$10bo5bo$10b6o!