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How do you explain this? It is stable (unlike 6 bits) and extensible (unlike SKOP 134). I think that it is a loop, temporially at least.confocaloid wrote: February 23rd, 2024, 11:30 pm (even though it seems perfectly reasonable to describe a Jubjub reflector based glider shuttle as a glider hassler).
The Jubjub reflector being stable doesn't say anything at all about whether a Jubjub shuttle is a hassler or not. There must be many dozens if not hundreds of hasslers by this time, that use nothing but stable catalysts. Check out Tanner's p46 on the pi-heptomino hasslers page, for example, and then just look around and you'll find plenty of other examples.Haycat2009 wrote: March 22nd, 2024, 11:15 am How do you explain this? It is stable (unlike 6 bits) and extensible (unlike SKOP 134). I think that it is a loop, temporially at least.
By 'temporially', I assume you mean 'temporally' in the sense 'the sequence of phases is looped in time'. That trivially holds for every single oscillator. The blinker, the toad, the clock, the caterer, various barberpoles, billiard tables, hasslers, shuttles, quasi-shuttles, OMOSes, RROs, RCT-based oscillators, and so on, and so forth.
Hmm... Do Conduit loops count as hasslers? If there is only 1 active reaction, it reappears twice or more or forms a different conduit active region (B - P conduit) and no spark interactions, it probably does not count. Therefore, Tanner p46 is not a hassler, as much as p256 gun is a H hassler.dvgrn wrote: March 22nd, 2024, 11:44 am There must be many dozens if not hundreds of hasslers by this time, that use nothing but stable catalysts.
I think a closed track with exactly one active object "X" does count as an X hassler. (However, it is not necessarily a good idea to describe it so. In most cases there will be a more specific term to describe those oscillators.)
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#C This is not a hassler,
#C because it is two hasslers
x = 15, y = 43, rule = B3/S23
6b2o$7bo$7bobo$8b2o2b2o$12b2o7$2bo$2b3o7b2o$5bo6b2o$4bobo7bo$4b2o6b2o$
12b2o$4b2o$4bo$5bo$4b2o2$11b2o$11bo$12bo$11b2o$2b3o$bo2bo6b2o$o9bobo$b
o2bo6bo$2b3o7b3o$14bo7$3b2o$3b2o2b2o$7bobo$9bo$9b2o!
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#C This is definitely a hassler:
x = 13, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
2b2o$2bo$3bo$2b2o2$9b2o$9bo$10bo$9b2o$b2o$b2o6b2o$o7bobo$b2o6bo$b2o7b
3o$12bo7$b2o$b2o2b2o$5bobo$7bo$7b2o!
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#C This is not a hassler:
x = 33, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
2o5b2o$2o5b2o2$4b2o$4b2o4$27b2o$16b2o9b2o$13b2ob3o$12b3ob2o6b2o5b2o$13b
2ob3o5b2o5b2o$17b2o4$20b2o$20bo$21b3o$23bo!
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#C By extension, this is definitely not a hassler:
x = 13, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
2b2o$2bo$3bo$2b2o2$9b2o$9bo$10bo$9b2o$b2o$b2o6b2o$o7bobo$b2o6bo$b2o7b
3o$12bo7$b2o$b2o2b2o$5bobo$7bo$7b2o!
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Simkin glider gun with one barrel cappedCode: Select all
Tanner's p46