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Posted: **September 24th, 2020, 11:16 pm**

MathAndCode wrote: September 24th, 2020, 7:37 pm By the way, have either of those been stabilized?

I don't think so.

Posted: **September 24th, 2020, 11:18 pm**

wwei23 wrote: September 24th, 2020, 11:16 pm
MathAndCode wrote: September 24th, 2020, 7:37 pm By the way, have either of those been stabilized?
I don't think so.

I'm going to mention them in the oscillator discussion thread. They look very promising.

Posted: **September 24th, 2020, 11:25 pm**

What LifeViewer loop? (Based off of Entity Valkyrie 2's troll)

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x = 83, y = 65, rule = LifeHistory
12.A4.A47.A4.A$10.3A4.3A43.3A4.3A$9.A10.A41.A10.A$9.2A8.2A41.2A8.2A$
6.5B8.5B35.5B8.5B$6.3A12.3A35.3A12.3A$5.A3BA10.A3BA33.A3BA10.A3BA$5.
5B4.2A4.5B33.5B4.2A4.5B$5.6B3.2A3.6B33.6B3.2A3.6B$5.A3BA2B6.2BA3BA33.
A3BA2B6.2BA3BA$.AB3.18B3.BA25.AB3.18B3.BA$A.A5BABA8BABA5BA.A23.A.A5BA
BA8BABA5BA.A$.A6B3A8B3A6BA25.A6B3A8B3A6BA$2.B.6BA8BA6B.B27.B.6BA8BA6B
.B$5.20B33.20B2$5.20B33.20B$2.B.6BA8BA6B.B27.B.6BA8BA6B.B$.A6B3A8B3A
6BA25.A6B3A8B3A6BA$A.A5BABA8BABA5BA.A23.A.A5BABA8BABA5BA.A$.AB3.18B3.
BA25.AB3.18B3.BA$5.A3BA2B6.2BA3BA33.A3BA2B6.2BA3BA$5.6B3.2A3.6B11.4B
3.4B11.6B3.2A3.6B$5.5B4.2A4.5B10.3B3A.3A3B10.5B4.2A4.5B$5.A3BA10.A3BA
9.4BABA.ABA4B9.A3BA10.A3BA$6.3A12.3A.B4.3B.3BA2BA.A2BA3B.3B4.B.3A12.
3A$6.5B10.7B.10BAB.BA10B.7B10.5B$9.2A12.B4A7B2A2BAB.BA2B2A7B4AB12.2A$
9.A11.2B2A2BA6BA2BA3B.3BA2BA6BA2B2A2B11.A$10.3A7.FB2A2BA7BABA4B.4BABA
7BA2B2ABF7.3A$12.A8.2BA2BA8BA5B.5BA8BA2BA2B8.A$22.2B2A15B.15B2A2B2$
22.2B2A15B.15B2A2B$12.A8.2BA2BA8BA5B.5BA8BA2BA2B8.A$10.3A7.FB2A2BA7BA
BA4B.4BABA7BA2B2ABF7.3A$9.A11.2B2A2BA6BA2BA3B.3BA2BA6BA2B2A2B11.A$9.
2A12.B4A7B2A2BAB.BA2B2A7B4AB12.2A$6.5B10.7B.10BAB.BA10B.7B10.5B$6.3A
12.3A.B4.3B.3BA2BA.A2BA3B.3B4.B.3A12.3A$5.A3BA10.A3BA9.4BABA.ABA4B9.A
3BA10.A3BA$5.5B4.2A4.5B10.3B3A.3A3B10.5B4.2A4.5B$5.6B3.2A3.6B11.4B3.
4B11.6B3.2A3.6B$5.A3BA2B6.2BA3BA33.A3BA2B6.2BA3BA$.AB3.18B3.BA25.AB3.
18B3.BA$A.A5BABA8BABA5BA.A23.A.A5BABA8BABA5BA.A$.A6B3A8B3A6BA25.A6B3A
8B3A6BA$2.B.6BA8BA6B.B27.B.6BA8BA6B.B$5.20B33.20B2$5.20B33.20B$2.B.6B
A8BA6B.B27.B.6BA8BA6B.B$.A6B3A8B3A6BA25.A6B3A8B3A6BA$A.A5BABA8BABA5BA
.A23.A.A5BABA8BABA5BA.A$.AB3.18B3.BA25.AB3.18B3.BA$5.A3BA2B6.2BA3BA
33.A3BA2B6.2BA3BA$5.6B3.2A3.6B33.6B3.2A3.6B$5.5B4.2A4.5B33.5B4.2A4.5B
$5.A3BA10.A3BA33.A3BA10.A3BA$6.3A12.3A35.3A12.3A$6.5B8.5B35.5B8.5B$9.
2A8.2A41.2A8.2A$9.A10.A41.A10.A$10.3A4.3A43.3A4.3A$12.A4.A47.A4.A!
[[ COLOR 6 0 0 0 ]]

Posted: **September 27th, 2020, 7:44 pm**

wwei23 wrote: September 24th, 2020, 11:25 pm What LifeViewer loop? (Based off of Entity Valkyrie 2's troll)

There's actually a p47 oscillator in there.

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x = 31, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
13bo4bo$11b3o4b3o$10bo10bo$10b2o8b2o2$7b3o12b3o$6bo3bo10bo3bo$15b2o$15b2o$6bo3bo10bo3bo$2bo26bo$bobo5bobo8bobo5bobo$2bo6b3o8b3o6bo$11bo8bo4$11bo8bo$2bo6b3o8b3o6bo$bobo5bobo8bobo5bobo$2bo26bo$6bo3bo10bo3bo$15b2o$15b2o$6bo3bo10bo3bo$7b3o12b3o2$10b2o8b2o$10bo10bo$11b3o4b3o$13bo4bo!

I think that that is technically a fake troll (which could also be viewed as a troll-troll, double troll, or meta-troll.

Gustone wrote: February 26th, 2020, 2:55 pm
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x = 7, y = 7, rule = B3-n/S1e23
2b3o2$o5bo$o5bo$o5bo2$2b3o!
[[ LOOP 21 ]]

JP21 wrote: March 1st, 2020, 7:18 am

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x = 5, y = 5, rule = 23/345678/4
2.A$.A.2A$A2.2A$.A.2A$2.A!



































#C [LOOP 69]
















































#C [[ TRACK 2/23 0 LOOP 23 ]]

Posted: **September 28th, 2020, 1:56 am**

MathAndCode wrote: September 27th, 2020, 7:44 pm There's actually a p47 oscillator in there.

It undergoes a mutual eating reaction with the pre-pulsar shuttle 47, enough to restore the blinker and enough for the gray cells to finish things off. I don't get why no one else seems to use gray cells though.

Posted: **September 28th, 2020, 3:16 pm**

wwei23 wrote: September 28th, 2020, 1:56 am
MathAndCode wrote: September 27th, 2020, 7:44 pm There's actually a p47 oscillator in there.
It undergoes a mutual eating reaction with the pre-pulsar shuttle 47, enough to restore the blinker and enough for the gray cells to finish things off. I don't get why no one else seems to use gray cells though.

Maybe it's much harder to disguise them by placing them next to eaters and still have the pattern work properly than to simply use a LifeViewer loop.

Posted: **September 29th, 2020, 11:14 pm**

MathAndCode wrote: September 28th, 2020, 3:16 pmMaybe it's much harder to disguise them by placing them next to eaters and still have the pattern work properly than to simply use a LifeViewer loop.

I see your point. However, a loop stops working the moment you reset, although gray cells keep working through resets.
EDIT: And I'm not disguising them like that, I'm telling LifeViewer to render them as black, the color of the background.

Posted: **September 30th, 2020, 12:09 am**

wwei23 wrote: September 29th, 2020, 11:14 pm
MathAndCode wrote: September 28th, 2020, 3:16 pmMaybe it's much harder to disguise them by placing them next to eaters and still have the pattern work properly than to simply use a LifeViewer loop.
I see your point. However, a loop stops working the moment you reset, although gray cells keep working through resets.
EDIT: And I'm not disguising them like that, I'm telling LifeViewer to render them as black, the color of the background.

I meant that most of the time, it might be suspicious if the edge of a reaction dies suddenly, so I would probably put fishhooks or other eaters near to the gray cells.

Posted: **September 30th, 2020, 5:44 pm**

MathAndCode wrote: September 30th, 2020, 12:09 am
wwei23 wrote: September 29th, 2020, 11:14 pm
MathAndCode wrote: September 28th, 2020, 3:16 pmMaybe it's much harder to disguise them by placing them next to eaters and still have the pattern work properly than to simply use a LifeViewer loop.
I see your point. However, a loop stops working the moment you reset, although gray cells keep working through resets.
EDIT: And I'm not disguising them like that, I'm telling LifeViewer to render them as black, the color of the background.
I meant that most of the time, it might be suspicious if the edge of a reaction dies suddenly, so I would probably put fishhooks or other eaters near to the gray cells.

I recommend using LifeViewer loops because this allows to see how close of a partial the pattern really is after resetting.

Posted: **September 30th, 2020, 5:57 pm**

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x = 45, y = 45, rule = B3/S23
29b3o$30bo$30bo$29b3o2$29b3o$29b3o2$29b3o$30bo$30bo$29b3o2$43b2o$43bo$
32b2o7bobo$34b2o5b2o$27b4o3b2o$26bo2b2o$27b4o3b2o$34b2o$32b2o2$11b2o$
9b2o$9b2o3b4o$14b2o2bo$9b2o3b4o$2b2o5b2o$bobo7b2o$bo$2o2$13b3o$14bo$
14bo$13b3o2$13b3o$13b3o2$13b3o$14bo$14bo$13b3o!


















#C [[ LOOP 120 AUTOSTART THEME 6 ]]

Posted: **September 30th, 2020, 7:15 pm**

Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote: September 30th, 2020, 5:57 pm

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x = 45, y = 45, rule = B3/S23
29b3o$30bo$30bo$29b3o2$29b3o$29b3o2$29b3o$30bo$30bo$29b3o2$43b2o$43bo$
32b2o7bobo$34b2o5b2o$27b4o3b2o$26bo2b2o$27b4o3b2o$34b2o$32b2o2$11b2o$
9b2o$9b2o3b4o$14b2o2bo$9b2o3b4o$2b2o5b2o$bobo7b2o$bo$2o2$13b3o$14bo$
14bo$13b3o2$13b3o$13b3o2$13b3o$14bo$14bo$13b3o!


















#C [[ LOOP 120 AUTOSTART THEME 6 ]]

I think that that's an actual wick.
EDIT: Moved my comment to the right location.

Posted: **October 6th, 2020, 6:59 pm**

Moosey wrote: October 1st, 2019, 6:30 am

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x = 47, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
obo41bo$b2o41bobo$bo42b2o8$10bobo21bo$11b2o21bobo$11bo22b2o7$22b2o$20b
o$21bo3bo$21b4o!
#C [[ THEME 6 THUMBSIZE 2 Y 10 ZOOM 32 GPS 20 AUTOSTART LOOP 40 ]]

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x = 39, y = 45, rule = B3/S23
bo$2bo$3o8$11bo$12bo$10b3o9$18b2o$16bo2bo$15b2o2bo$18bo$17bo7$26b2o$26bobo$26bo8$36b2o$36bobo$36bo!
#C [[ THEME 6 ZOOM 30 GPS 20 AUTOSTART LOOP 40 ]]

Now we need a fake two-glider synthesis of a HWSS. Is it possible to change only one cell?

Posted: **October 6th, 2020, 7:59 pm**

MathAndCode wrote: September 27th, 2020, 7:44 pm I think that that is technically a fake troll (which could also be viewed as a troll-troll, double troll, or meta-troll.

I call this a truell, because it is TRUE.

Posted: **October 6th, 2020, 8:33 pm**

MathAndCode wrote: October 6th, 2020, 6:59 pm
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x = 39, y = 45, rule = B3/S23
bo$2bo$3o8$11bo$12bo$10b3o9$18b2o$16bo2bo$15b2o2bo$18bo$17bo7$26b2o$26bobo$26bo8$36b2o$36bobo$36bo!
#C [[ THEME 6 ZOOM 30 GPS 20 AUTOSTART LOOP 40 ]]
Now we need a fake two-glider synthesis of a HWSS. Is it possible to change only one cell?

I found two more fake two-glider XWSS syntheses that only require one cell to be changed, but neither makes an HWSS.

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x = 23, y = 47, rule = B3/S23
20bo$20bobo$20b2o8$10bo$10bobo$10b2o8$o$obo$2o$2o$2o$o$bo8$10b2o$9b2o$11bo8$20b2o$19b2o$21bo!
#C [[ THEME 6 X -10 ZOOM 30 GPS 20 AUTOSTART LOOP 40 ]]

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x = 33, y = 67, rule = B3/S23
32bo$30b2o$31b2o13$17bo$15b2o$16b2o13$2bo$2o$o2bo$o2bo$o$o$bo13$15b3o$15bo$16bo13$30b3o$30bo$31bo!
#C [[ THEME 6 X -15 ZOOM 30 GPS 20 AUTOSTART LOOP 60 ]]

Edit: Here's a third. It can be changed to be more convincing but not while still only changing one cell.

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x = 36, y = 67, rule = B3/S23
33bobo$33b2o$2b3o29bo$bo2bo$4bo$o3bo$4bo$bobo8$18bobo$18b2o$19bo13$3bobo$3b2o$4bo2$3b2o$3bobo$bobo13$18b2o$18bobo$18bo13$33b2o$33bobo$33bo!
#C [[ THEME 6 X -15 ZOOM 30 GPS 20 AUTOSTART LOOP 60 ]]

Another edit:

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x = 67, y = 63, rule = B3/S23
64bobo$64b2o$65bo13$49bobo$49b2o$50bo13$30b7o$32b4o$31bo3bo13$15b3o$17bo$16bo13$3o$2bo$bo!
#C [[ THEME 6 ZOOM 30 GPS 20 AUTOSTART LOOP 60 ]]

Yet another edit:

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x = 67, y = 63, rule = B3/S23
64bobo$64b2o$65bo13$49bobo$49b2o$50bo11$35bo2$30b5obo$32b4o$31bo3bo13$15b3o$17bo$16bo13$3o$2bo$bo!
#C [[ THEME 6 ZOOM 30 GPS 20 AUTOSTART LOOP 60 ]]

Posted: **October 13th, 2020, 12:41 am**

More LifeHistory-based trolling, eater 2 edition! One is P6, one is P9.

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x = 35, y = 14, rule = LifeHistory
4.A19.A$3.A.A17.A.A$3.A.A17.A.A$.3A.2A14.3A.2A.F$A4.B14.A4.B.B$.3AB2A
BF12.3AB2AB.F$3.A.2AB15.A.2A2B$7.B2A.A14.2B2A.A$6.FB2AB3A11.F.B2AB3A$
9.B4.A12.B.B4.A$8.2A.3A12.F.2A.3A$9.A.A17.A.A$9.A.A17.A.A$10.A19.A!
[[ COLOR 6 0 0 0 ]]

Symbiosis-based trolling is possible, too. (This example is kind of obvious, but it's a proof-of-concept.)

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x = 11, y = 11, rule = Symbiosis
4.B$2.2B$2.B2.3B2.B$2.B4.3B$3.3B2.2B2$.3A2.2A$A4.3A$A2.3A2.A$2A$2.A!
[[ COLOR 2 255 0 0 ]]

Posted: **October 13th, 2020, 5:35 am**

Did anyone forget about StateInvestigator based trolling:

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x = 27, y = 31, rule = StateInvestigator
20.2A$9.2A5.2A2.A$10.A5.A.A.A$10.A.A6.A$8.C2.2A2$23.2A$22.A.A$22.A$
21.2A2$2A$2A16.2A$7.A.A8.2A$7.2A$8.A2$7.2A$7.2A16.2A$25.2A2$4.2A$4.A$
2.A.A$2.2A2$14.2A2.C$7.A6.A.A$6.A.A.A5.A$6.A2.2A5.2A$5.2A!
#C [[ COLOR 1 252 252 252 ]]
#C [[ COLOR 3 0 0 0 ]]
#C [[ COLOR 4 252 252 252 ]]
#C [[ COLOR 5 0 0 0 ]]

Posted: **October 13th, 2020, 6:22 pm**

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x = 12, y = 11, rule = LifeHistory
4.A$3.A.A$3.A.A$.3A.2A$A4.B$.3AB2ABF$3.A.2AB$7.B2A$6.FBA.A$10.A$10.2A
!
[[ COLOR 6 0 0 0 ]]

Posted: **October 14th, 2020, 1:07 am**

P60 Fleet Dance

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x = 10, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$3bobo$3b2o$b2o$obo5b2o$2o5bobo$7b2o$5b2o$4bobo$4b2o!
[[ PASTET EVERY 30 PASTE 2o$2o! 4 4 ]]

Posted: **October 14th, 2020, 2:14 am**

ColorfulGalaxy wrote: October 14th, 2020, 1:07 am P60 Fleet Dance
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x = 10, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$3bobo$3b2o$b2o$obo5b2o$2o5bobo$7b2o$5b2o$4bobo$

This reminds me of the Vam Fleet award trophy.

Posted: **October 15th, 2020, 1:03 am**

Trump {Bot} wrote: October 14th, 2020, 2:14 am
ColorfulGalaxy wrote: October 14th, 2020, 1:07 am P60 Fleet Dance
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x = 10, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$3bobo$3b2o$b2o$obo5b2o$2o5bobo$7b2o$5b2o$4bobo$4b2o!

Reduced period to 56. Can't reduce below 56.

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x = 10, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$3bobo$3b2o$b2o$obo5b2o$2o5bobo$7b2o$5b2o$4bobo$4b2o!
[[ PASTET EVERY 28 PASTE 2o$2o! 4 4 ]]

And a backward muttering moat:

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x = 0, y = 0, rule = 345/2/4
BA$.A$3A$.A!
[[ GPS 12 STEP 11 ]]

Posted: **October 15th, 2020, 9:32 pm**

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x = 26, y = 13, rule = LifeHistory
20.A$20.3A$23.A$22.2A3$24.C$25.C$25.C$2.D15.2C3.2C$D.D15.2C2.2C$3D$D!
#C [[ RLE fishhook A.$3A.$3.A.$2.2A.! ]]
#C [[ PASTEMODE COPY ]]
#C [[ PASTET 37 ]]
#C [[ PASTE fishhook 19 0 ]]
#C [[ T 96 PAUSE 1 ]]

Posted: **October 17th, 2020, 4:09 am**

ColorfulGalaxy wrote: October 15th, 2020, 1:03 am Reduced period to 56. Can't reduce below 56.
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x = 10, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$3bobo$3b2o$b2o$obo5b2o$2o5bobo$7b2o$5b2o$4bobo$4b2o!
[[ PASTET EVERY 28 PASTE 2o$2o! 4 4 ]]

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x = 10, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$4bobo$5b2o$3bo3b2o$2o2bo2bobo$obo2bo2b2o$b2o3bo$3b2o$3bobo$4b2o!
[[ THEME 0 ]]
[[ PASTET EVERY 10 PASTE o$bo$2bo$3bo! 3 3 ]]
[[ PASTET EVERY 10 5 PASTE 3bo$2bo$bo$o! 3 3 ]]

Posted: **October 17th, 2020, 4:29 am**

HBK:

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x = 168, y = 166, rule = B3/S23
77bo$75b2o$76b2o16$94bobo$94b2o$95bo11$73bo$72bo$72b3o12$160bobo$160b
2o$161bo2$28b2o$27bo2bo$27bobo$25b2obo$24bo2bo$24bobo$25bo32b2o$57bo2b
o$57bobo$55b2obo80bo$54bo2bo80bo$54bobo81b3o$55bo2$42b2o$41bo2bo$41bob
o$39b2obo$38bo2bo$38bobo$39bo3$82b2o$83b2o$82bo15$165bobo$165b2o$166bo
9$106b2o$105bo2bo$105bobo36bo$103b2obo36bo$102bo2bo37b3o$102bobo$103bo
2$90b2o$89bo2bo$89bobo$87b2obo$86bo2bo$86bobo$87bo9$obo$2o$bo$129b2o$
128bo2bo$128bobo$126b2obo$125bo2bo$125bobo$126bo2$113b2o$112bo2bo$112b
obo$110b2obo$109bo2bo$109bobo$110bo10$66bobo$66b2o$67bo11$45bo$44bo$
44b3o!
[[ AUTOSTART TRACK -3/435 -6/435 LOOP 435 THEME 0 ZOOM 4 X -20 Y 20 ]]

Overweight spaceship!

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x = 8, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
2b3o$o5bo$7bo$o6bo$b7o!

















x = 8, y = 5, rule = B3-n4nt5qr6i/S23
2b3o$o5bo$7bo$o6bo$b7o!

Posted: **October 17th, 2020, 2:19 pm**

Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote: October 17th, 2020, 4:09 am
ColorfulGalaxy wrote: October 15th, 2020, 1:03 am Reduced period to 56. Can't reduce below 56.
Code: Select all
x = 10, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$3bobo$3b2o$b2o$obo5b2o$2o5bobo$7b2o$5b2o$4bobo$4b2o!
[[ PASTET EVERY 28 PASTE 2o$2o! 4 4 ]]
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x = 10, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$4bobo$5b2o$3bo3b2o$2o2bo2bobo$obo2bo2b2o$b2o3bo$3b2o$3bobo$4b2o!
[[ THEME 0 ]]
[[ PASTET EVERY 10 PASTE o$bo$2bo$3bo! 3 3 ]]
[[ PASTET EVERY 10 5 PASTE 3bo$2bo$bo$o! 3 3 ]]

Sorry, I didn't know that "PASTET EVERY 10 5" script.

Posted: **October 17th, 2020, 6:06 pm**

Jaj! 100th post!

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x = 13, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
3bo5bo$2bob2ob2obo$b2ob2ob2ob2o$b2ob2ob2ob2o$2b2o5b2o$5o3b5o$o11bo$bo
9bo!
[[ TRACK 0/7 -1/7 LOOP 7 THEME 0 AUTOSTART GPS 35 ]]

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