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We do have specific threads for that kind of stuff, you know.

AforAmpere wrote:We do have specific threads for that kind of stuff, you know.

Nobody cares anymore. They just dump it where they want. Apparently.

EDIT by dvgrn: I'm inclined to delete this thread if it keeps showing back up on the Active Topics list. The next time a post appears here, the whole thread will probably disappear completely -- unless said post is a convincing explanation of why these kinds of experimental junk posts can't be restricted to existing older Sandbox threads like the Aidan Mode Testing Grounds.

Let's play a game that suits the title very well.

Post a logical ENGLISH sentence that has more entropy (calculate w/ http://www.shannonentropy.netmark.pl/ ) than the previous sentence.

First sentence:

"Dave Greene will delete this thread, or will he?"

Score: 3.72749

If the thread's revived properly, we could save it.

H(X) = 4.10544

This sentence has more entropy than the one before, since I am trying to make each letter roughly as frequent (I might be better off with baby babbles)


H(x)=4.11283


Do we need to do this? I don’t care about this thread.

The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog

H(X) = 4.36852

“Cwm fjord banks glyph vext quiz” is a perfect pangram

H(x) = 4.67188


Bonus:
A sentence that describes itself
Î çhëãt śô mūćh, and Ï ñèêd 5 bįtš pėr łęttér mæxīmåłlÿ

"logical ENGLISH sentence"

fluffykitty wrote:"logical ENGLISH sentence"

Hey, there were no conditions stating that every word be English, it just requires the grammar and stuff to work out?
Or rather, it was left free to interpretation and that’s the way I interpreted it.

It’s not like I just wrote cwm fjord whatever only, I made it a sentence

"Some months ago, I went to 香港特别行政区"
H(x)=4.74612

Not english.

"Busy beaver function order of x length g64 glider or less syntheses of 0E0P metacamelship in CGOL w/o UNIVERSAL CONSTRUCTOR and slow SAlVO."

H(X) = 4.8967

"Im about to apgsearch b2ci3ai4c8s02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e, hoping for a yl128_2_64_696d86654cff31a31d0e82feb27e05ec."
H(x)=4.90853

That’s actually disoptimal, as isotropic rules have limited characterspace and the yl code, a md5 hash, is limited to hexadecimal characters.

"a xp10s IN THE nONtOtALISTic RUlE wITH Animal(sound=rawr, like=honey,color=brown).PresentTense cOnDiTiOnS 2c3aei4ajnr5acn + Abscond – ab (split / s,c) 2-ci3-ck4in5jkq6c7c, KNOWN → x3vi, INCLUDEs xp10_wcih89e033z33, at 427."

H(X) = 5.44384

Technically English

Î çhëãt śô mūćh, and Ï ñèêd 5 bįtš pėr łęttér mæxīmåłlÿ

u were saying

“abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ1234567890”, śâîd Añń
H(X) = 6.17317

The quotes can be full of any garbage I like, of course, as long as it’s got some English after it to make it legal. Names too.

Of course, I can just do this too, and get a marginally larger entropy:
“abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ1234567890ερτυθιοπασδφγηξκλζχψωβνμ°Д^”, śâîd Añń.

H(X) = 6.29042

Of course, "śâîd" is not a word, and neither is “abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ1234567890”, so that is less than 50% english (and literally not english at all.) For the same reason Saka's is disqualified. But beating that is trivial:

(Proceeds to paste full lifeviewer source code)

testitemqlstudop wrote:Of course, "śâîd" is not a word, and neither is “abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ1234567890”, so that is less than 50% english (and literally not english at all.) For the same reason Saka's is disqualified.

I don’t think it’s disqualified— cOnDiTiOnS (from yours) is not a word at all either, and I did note that Añń can say whatever she pleases— my whole thing is English if cOnDiTiOnS is an English word (capitalization matters-- i and I will laugh if you don't think so). Furthermore, I’m pretty sure that 2c3aei4ajnr5acn is not a word in english (nor is ab, xp10_wcih89e033z33, PresentTense, or almost any other word in your current “legal” record holder)— if we go by recognizability, then mine is actually at least as legal as yours. Even by your own rules, yours is at most as qualified as mine. In the sense of what it looks like it’s neither logical nor english. Mine is at least somewhat logical since someone can say anything they want, be it a real word or not. Either that or the best you could say is that they’re both logical and English. But you’ll have a hard time convincing anyone that what you wrote is more logical and more english-looking than mine.

Furthermore, with word games, a good rule of thumb is anything that isn’t disallowed can be taken as allowed.

So, you can choose to disqualify yours and mine or you can disqualify neither, but you can’t fairly disqualify precisely one of them.

I think that something that’s not English but is put in quotes should be legal— anyone can say “ça va”, and the sentence I’m writing is still English.



Since an argument is inevitably going to take place here over whether "a xp10s IN THE nONtOtALISTic RUlE wITH Animal(sound=rawr, like=honey,color=brown).PresentTense cOnDiTiOnS 2c3aei4ajnr5acn + Abscond – ab (split / s,c) 2-ci3-ck4in5jkq6c7c, KNOWN → x3vi, INCLUDEs xp10_wcih89e033z33, at 427." or "“abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ1234567890”, śâîd Añń" is a more logical sentence, and dvgrn is already itching to delete this thread, I highly doubt it will last much longer.
Honestly, I vote this thread be deleted— it’s not an interesting thread.

Moosey wrote: Honestly, I vote this thread be deleted— it’s not an interesting thread.

Yes I also support the deletion of this thread, as Random posts covers everything.

Saka wrote:

Moosey wrote: Honestly, I vote this thread be deleted— it’s not an interesting thread.

Yes I also support the deletion of this thread, as Random posts covers everything.

Except Aidan mode.
But really, who wants to introduce Aidan mode?

yes delete it

If you're deleting this thread, why not delete GOL-SSRP or "What is sesame oil?"?

fluffykitty wrote:If you're deleting this thread, why not delete GOL-SSRP or "What is sesame oil?"?

Dvgrn just doesn’t like seeing this thread get bumped.
I think it’s fine just to never post on this thread again.

Dont delete GOLSSRP plz! he is probably bad at explaining things. Im begging ya.