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Re: Soup-based syntheses
Posted: September 5th, 2019, 7:34 pm
by Ian07
Omnibus with tubs reduced from 11G to 8G:
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x = 155, y = 36, rule = B3/S23
55bobo78bo$56b2o77bo$56bo78b3o2$64bo67b3o$65b2o6bobo$64b2o7b2o$74bo7$b
o$2bo69b3o$3o$70bo5bo$4b3o63bo5bo$6bo63bo5bo$5bo141b2o3b2o$72b3o71bo2b
obo2bo$146b2obobob2o$149bobo$146b2obobob2o$146b2obobob2o$149bobo$149bo
bo$147bobobobo$146bobo3bobo$147bo5bo3$69b3o11b2o$71bo11bobo$70bo12bo!
A one-glider cleanup might be possible.
Re: Soup-based syntheses
Posted: September 14th, 2019, 12:12 pm
by Ian07
On this episode of "syntheses which start incremental but turn into soup-based in the last step and could probably be reduced further to be just soup-based":
http://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xs1 ... cz23/b3s23
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x = 19, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
17bo$16bo$16b3o10$12b2o$8b2obo2bo$9bobobo$8bo3bo$8bob2o$7b2obo$12bo$
11b2o4$2o$b2o$o!
Running synthesise-patt on the object at generation 26 unfortunately yielded no results; popseq anyone?
EDIT: Some more:
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x = 24, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
11bo$10bobob2o$11b2obobo$15bobo$16b2o6$21b3o$21bo$22bo$2o$b2o$o!
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x = 14, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
bo$obo4b2o$bo2b2o2bo$2b2o2b2o$3bobo$2bo2bo$2bobo$3bo7b2o$11bobo$11bo3$
6b2o$5b2o$7bo!
Re: Soup-based syntheses
Posted: September 15th, 2019, 8:28 am
by apg
@Freywa I've submitted all objects/constellations (with a semiperimeter <= 40) with 3G syntheses that don't already have 3G syntheses in Shinjuku:
https://gitlab.com/parclytaxel/Shinjuku ... equests/40
This should be helpful for Alex Greason's collision search, since it will have 14000 new small low-cost targets to bombard with gliders.
Re: Soup-based syntheses
Posted: September 15th, 2019, 9:56 am
by Freywa
calcyman wrote:@Freywa I've submitted all objects/constellations (with a semiperimeter <= 40) with 3G syntheses that don't already have 3G syntheses in Shinjuku:
https://gitlab.com/parclytaxel/Shinjuku ... equests/40
This should be helpful for Alex Greason's collision search, since it will have 14000 new small low-cost targets to bombard with gliders.
Out of deference to my workload elsewhere, I should have given you write access to Shinjuku by now. Try and push a commit; if you can't please let me know.
Now Ian asked about modifying transfer.py for things other than still lifes. You should be able to work on it.
Re: Soup-based syntheses
Posted: September 25th, 2019, 3:47 am
by apg
Freywa wrote:calcyman wrote:@Freywa I've submitted all objects/constellations (with a semiperimeter <= 40) with 3G syntheses that don't already have 3G syntheses in Shinjuku:
https://gitlab.com/parclytaxel/Shinjuku ... equests/40
This should be helpful for Alex Greason's collision search, since it will have 14000 new small low-cost targets to bombard with gliders.
Out of deference to my workload elsewhere, I should have given you write access to Shinjuku by now. Try and push a commit; if you can't please let me know.
Now Ian asked about modifying transfer.py for things other than still lifes. You should be able to work on it.
Thank you very much! I believe you need to explicitly set the permissions on the master branch so that Developers can merge to it:
https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/user/project ... nches.html
Re: Soup-based syntheses
Posted: September 26th, 2019, 12:53 am
by Freywa
I should have done that now.
Re: Soup-based syntheses
Posted: September 28th, 2019, 8:56 pm
by Ian07
15G for a
160-bit still life; as far as strict still lifes go, this is a lower glider-to-bit ratio than anything I've ever seen: (taken from the first C4_1 soup)
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x = 57, y = 57, rule = B3/S23
13bobo$14b2o$14bo3$26bo$27bo$25b3o3$25b2o$26b2o$25bo$56bo$54b2o$55b2o
2$36bo$34b2o$35b2o2$21bo$22bo$20b3o2$44bobo2bo$45b2o2bobo$45bo3b2o2$6b
2o3bo$5bobo2b2o$7bo2bobo8$37b3o$37bo$2o36bo$b2o$o$31bo$29b2o$30b2o3$
29b3o$29bo$30bo3$42bo$41b2o$41bobo!
Amazingly, the fact that the pulsar has a maximum population of 72 never came to mind when originally making this post.
Re: Soup-based syntheses
Posted: September 29th, 2019, 6:11 am
by Hunting
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x = 10, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
bo$obo3bobo$obo3b3o$bo3bo3bo$6bo2bo$6bobo!
Sadly, this won't reduce the glider cost of that still life.
This one's even more useless: 9 gliders for Aries between two blocks = a waste of gliders.
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x = 13, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
6b3o3$11b2o$10b2o$12bo2$4bo$3bobo$3b2o3$3o3b3o!
Re: Soup-based syntheses
Posted: September 29th, 2019, 9:17 am
by apg
Ian07 wrote:15G for a
160-bit still life; as far as strict still lifes go, this is a lower glider-to-bit ratio than anything I've ever seen: (taken from the first C4_1 soup)
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x = 57, y = 57, rule = B3/S23
13bobo$14b2o$14bo3$26bo$27bo$25b3o3$25b2o$26b2o$25bo$56bo$54b2o$55b2o
2$36bo$34b2o$35b2o2$21bo$22bo$20b3o2$44bobo2bo$45b2o2bobo$45bo3b2o2$6b
2o3bo$5bobo2b2o$7bo2bobo8$37b3o$37bo$2o36bo$b2o$o$31bo$29b2o$30b2o3$
29b3o$29bo$30bo3$42bo$41b2o$41bobo!
Amazingly, the fact that the pulsar has a maximum population of 72 never came to mind when originally making this post.
There's also that obscenely long boat with 2017 cells constructed in 39 gliders:
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x = 2165, y = 2166, rule = B3/S23
o$b2o$2o$6bobo$7b2o$7bo1997$2150bobo$2150b2o$2151bo$2019bo$2020bo138bo
$2018b3o137bo$2158b3o3$2161bo$2159b2o$2160b2o$2010bo5bobo$2008bobo6b2o
$2009b2o6bo4$2134bo$2132b2o$2133b2o2$2010bo9bo$2011bo9bo$2009b3o7b3o3$
2039bo$2029bo10bo92bo$2027bobo8b3o90b2o$2028b2o102b2o4$2025bo$2026bo$
2024b3o$2124bo$2124bobo$2124b2o6$2058bo$2056bobo$2057b2o14$2101bo$
2100bo$2100b3o14$2094bo$2094bobo$2078bo15b2o$2079b2o$2078b2o12$2101bo$
2100b2o$2100bobo19$2043b2o$2042bobo$2044bo2$2129b2o$2128b2o$2130bo6bo$
2035b2o99b2o$2034bobo99bobo$2036bo13$2016b3o10b2o$2018bo9bobo$2017bo
12bo2$2013b2o$2014b2o140b3o$2013bo142bo$2157bo2$2160bo$2159b2o$2159bob
o2$2006bo$2006b2o$2005bobo132b3o13b2o5b2o$2140bo15bobo3b2o$2141bo14bo
7bo2$2024bo134b3o$2024b2o133bo$2019b2o2bobo134bo$2018bobo136bo$2020bo
135b2o$2156bobo$2152b2o$2151b2o$2153bo!
Re: Soup-based syntheses
Posted: September 29th, 2019, 10:15 am
by Freywa
Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote:Nothing special found in the United States:
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x = 1277, y = 683, rule = B3/S23
653b10o$653b12o$653b12o$653b13o$653b14o$653b14o$653b15o$653b15o$653b
15o$652b16o$652b16o$35b633o$35b633o$35b633o$36b632o$36b632o$36b632o$
36b632o$36b632o$36b632o$36b632o$37b631o$37b633o$37b635ob7o19b7o$37b
645o14b13o$37b646o7b20o$38b647o2b24o$38b675o$38b675o$38b676o$o37b677o$
9o29b677o$17o21b678o$24o14b678o7b2o$b31o6b679o4b6o$b717o3b8o$2b716o2b
10o$2b729o8b11o$2b730o3b17o$3b751o$3b751o$3b753o$4b761o$4b770o$4b780o$
5b781o$5b780o$6b778o$6b777o$6b776o$7b772o$7b769o$7b767o$8b764o$8b763o$
8b761o$9b757o$9b750o$10b748o$10b747o$10b746o$11b745o$11b745o464b6o$11b
744o53bo411b7o14b3o$12b743o50b8o406b10o11b6o$12b742o49b11o405b11o9b8o$
12b742o48b13o403b14o7b9o$13b741o46b15o403b15o5b11o$13b740o46b16o402b
17o3b13o$13b739o45b18o402b34o$14b738o42b21o401b36o$14b737o42b22o401b
37o$15b735o41b23o401b39o$15b734o41b24o401b40o$15b731o41b27o400b43o$16b
728o40b29o401b45o$16b727o38b32o400b46o$16b726o36b35o400b46o$17b724o34b
38o399b47o$17b724o31b41o399b47o$17b723o29b45o397b48o$18b722o26b48o397b
48o$18b721o3b5o14b54o395b49o$19b730o8b59o394b49o$19b731o3b64o392b50o$
19b798o55b9o328b50o$20b798o48b18o324b50o$20b799o43b25o321b50o$20b800o
38b31o318b51o$21b800o30b39o317b51o$21b803o19b48o315b52o$21b871o314b52o
$22b870o313b53o$22b871o312b53o$22b874o308b54o$22b877o305b54o$22b880o
301b55o$22b882o299b55o$22b883o297b56o$22b884o296b56o$22b885o294b57o$
22b886o293b57o$22b887o291b58o$21b889o289b59o$21b889o289b59o$21b890o
287b60o$21b890o287b60o$21b890o287b60o$21b890o287b60o$21b889o288b60o$
21b888o289b60o$21b885o292b59o$21b881o295b60o$21b841o335b60o$21b837o
338b60o$21b833o342b60o$21b829o345b61o$21b820ob4o349b62o$21b820o38b8o
307b63o$21b819o37b12o305b64o$21b819o36b16o301b66o$21b818o36b19o298b67o
$21b817o37b22o295b68o$21b813o40b25o292b70o$21b812o41b27o289b71o$20b
812o41b30o285b74o$20b811o41b33o282b76o$20b810o42b35o278b78o$20b809o42b
38o275b80o$20b808o41b41o273b82o$20b807o41b44o270b83o$20b807o40b46o268b
85o$20b806o7bo31b49o263b90o$20b806o5b3o30b51o260b93o$20b805o5b4o29b53o
258b94o$20b805o4b5o28b54o258b95o$20b804o4b6o27b55o257b97o$20b804o2b8o
26b56o179b4o73b99o$20b803o2b9o26b56o176b25o55b99o$20b803ob10o25b55o
175b45o35b103o$20b814o24b56o172b66o10b111o$20b814o24b57o169b189o$20b
814o23b58o167b192o$20b814o22b60o164b195o$19b815o22b60o162b198o$19b815o
21b62o160b199o$19b814o21b63o159b201o$19b814o21b64o157b202o$19b814o20b
65o156b203o$19b814o19b66o155b204o$19b813o20b66o154b205o$19b813o19b67o
153b206o$19b813o19b67o153b205o$19b813o18b68o152b202o$19b813o18b68o152b
200o$19b813o18b68o151b199o$19b813o17b69o151b198o$19b813o17b69o150b198o
$19b812o18b69o150b196o$19b812o18b69o150b195o$18b813o17b70o150b193o$18b
813o17b70o150b192o$18b813o17b69o151b190o$18b813o17b68o152b188o$18b813o
16b69o152b186o$18b812o17b74o146b185o$18b812o17b76o144b183o$18b812o17b
77o143b182o$18b811o18b78o142b181o$18b811o18b78o141b179o$18b811o18b78o
140b179o$18b811o18b80o138b177o$17b811o18b82o136b176o$17b811o18b84o133b
175o$17b811o18b85o132b173o$17b811o17b87o130b171o$17b811o17b88o129b169o
$17b810o18b89o129b167o$17b810o18b90o128b164o$17b810o17b91o128b158o$17b
810o17b92o128b152o$17b810o17b93o127b150o$16b811o17b93o128b148o$16b810o
18b94o127b147o$16b810o18b94o128b145o$16b810o18b94o129b143o$16b810o19b
93o129b142o$16b809o20b93o130b141o$16b809o20b94o128b142o$15b809o21b94o
126b144o$15b809o22b93o122b147o$15b809o22b93o119b150o$15b808o23b93o116b
152o$15b808o24b92o78b11o23b155o$14b809o24b92o72b32o4b158o$14b809o25b
91o69b197o$14b809o25b91o67b199o$13b810o25b91o66b199o$13b809o27b90o66b
199o$13b809o27b89o66b200o$12b810o28b88o66b199o$12b810o28b88o65b200o$
11b811o28b87o66b200o$10b812o29b86o66b199o$10b812o29b86o66b199o$9b813o
30b84o68b198o$9b813o30b84o68b197o$8b814o30b84o69b196o$8b814o30b83o71b
194o$8b814o30b83o71b194o$8b814o30b83o71b194o$8b814o30b83o71b193o$8b
814o30b82o71b194o$8b814o30b82o71b193o$9b813o29b83o70b194o$9b812o30b83o
70b194o$9b812o30b82o69b196o$10b811o30b82o68b196o$10b811o30b82o67b197o$
10b811o29b82o67b198o$11b810o29b78ob3o67b197o$11b810o29b78o70b198o$12b
810o27b78o71b197o$12b810o26b79o70b198o$13b809o26b79o68b200o$13b810o24b
80o66b201o$13b810o23b80o65b203o$14b809o23b80o63b205o$14b809o23b80o61b
207o$14b810o21b81o59b209o$15b809o21b80o58b211o$15b809o21b80o56b213o$
15b810o19b80o55b215o$16b809o19b79o54b217o$16b809o18b80o52b218o$16b810o
16b80o51b223o$17b809o15b81o49b227o$17b810o13b82o47b230o$17b810o12b83o
44b234o$17b811o8b85o42b238o$17b815ob87o41b241o$17b901o37b247o$17b903o
31b252o$16b905o26b256o$16b906o21b260o$16b908o16b263o$16b910o11b266o$
16b912o8b268o$16b914o4b270o$16b1187o$16b1187o$16b1187o$16b1187o$16b
1186o$16b1186o$15b1185o$15b1182o$15b1173o$15b1161o$15b1147o$15b1135o$
15b1129o$14b1125o5b14o$14b1121ob24o$14b1146o$14b1147o$14b1147o$14b
1147o$13b1148o$13b1148o$13b1148o$13b1147o$13b1147o$12b1146o$12b1111o6b
28o$12b1111o$12b1111o$12b1111o$12b1111o$12b1111o$12b1111o$12b1111o$13b
1109o$13b1109o$13b1109o$13b1109o$13b1109o$13b1109o$13b1109o$13b1109o$
14b1107o$14b1107o$14b1107o$14b1106o$15b1105o$15b1105o$15b1104o$16b
1102o$17b1100o$17b1100o$18b1098o$19b1097o$19b1097o$20b1095o$20b1095o$
21b1094o$21b1094o$21b1094o$21b1094o$22b1092o$22b1092o$23b1091o$23b
1090o$24b1089o$25b1087o$25b1086o$26b1083o$27b1081o$27b1081o$28b1080o$
28b1079o$29b1078o$30b1077o$30b1070o2b2o$31b1069o$32b1069o$32b1069o$33b
1068o$34b1067o$34b1067o$35b1066o$36b1065o$36b1065o$37b1063o$38b1062o$
38b1062o$39b1061o$40b1028ob31o$40b1028ob31o$41b1059o$42b1058o$42b1027o
b29o$43b1026ob29o$44b1025o2b28o$44b1025o4b4ob20o$45b1025o9b18o$46b
1024o9b17o$46b1021o12b15o$47b1022o11b13o$48b1024o8b13o$48b1025o7b12o$
50b1023o7b12o$53b2o2b1017o6b12o$57b1017o5b12o$58b1016o5b12o$59b1015o5b
12o$59b1015o4b12o$60b1014o4b12o$54b1020o4b11o$54b1020o3b12o$53b1020o4b
11o$53b1020o4b11o$53b1020o3b11o$53b1020o3b10o$54b1019o2b11o$54b1019o2b
10o$54b1018o3b9o$55b1017o3b8o$55b1017o2b8o$56b1016o2b8o$56b1016o3b6o$
56b1016o3b4o$57b1014o$57b1014o$58b1013o$58b1013o$59b1014o$60b1017o$60b
1019o$61b1019o$61b1020o$62b1020o$66b1016o$66b1016o$66b1016o$66b1015o$
66b1015o$66b1014o$66b1014o$66b1013o$66b1013o$66b1012o$66b1012o$66b
1013o$66b1013o$66b1013o$67b1012o$67b1012o$68b1011o$69b1010o$69b1009o$
70b1006o$71b1006o$71b1008o$72b1009o$72b1010o$72b1011o$73b1011o$73b
1012o$74b1011o$74b1012o$75b1011o$76b1010o$76b1010o$78b1008o$79b1006o$
80b1004o$81b1002o$82b998o$84b986o$85b985o$86b985o$87b984o$88b984o$90b
982o$91b981o$92b981o$93b980o$94b979o$96b978o$96b978o$96b978o$96b979o$
96b979o$96b980o$96b980o$96b980o$96b980o$96b980o$96b979o$97b978o$97b
977o$97b971o$97b969o$98b966o$98b964o$100b961o$110b949o$113b944o$116b
938o$118b932o$120b925o$122b921o$124b918o$127b914o$129b911o$132b907o$
135b903o$138b898o$140b895o$142b891o$143b889o$144b886o$146b882o$147b
880o$149b877o$151b873o$152b871o$154b868o$155b866o$156b864o$157b862o$
158b860o$159b857o$160b855o$161b852o$162b850o$163b847o$164b845o$165b
842o$166b840o$166b838o$167b834o$168b831o$168b830o$168b829o$169b827o$
169b826o$169b825o$170b823o$170b822o$170b821o$171b820o$171b819o$171b
818o$172b816o$172b17o38b760o$230b755o$232b751o$235b746o$237b742o$240b
738o$242b735o$245b731o$247b728o$250b725o$252b722o$255b718o$257b715o$
260b711o$262b708o$265b704o$267b701o$270b697o$272b695o$275b691o$277b95o
31b563o$280b92o32b561o$282b90o33b560o$285b87o35b557o$287b85o36b556o$
290b82o37b555o$292b80o39b553o$295b77o40b552o$297b75o41b550o$300b72o42b
549o$302b70o44b547o$305b66o46b546o$418b545o$420b543o$421b542o$422b541o
$423b539o$425b538o$426b537o$427b536o$428b536o$430b534o$431b534o$432b
533o$434b531o$435b530o$436b530o$437b529o$439b526o$439b526o$440b524o$
440b523o$440b522o$440b521o$441b520o$441b520o$441b343o5b173o$442b338o
11b27o16b128o$442b332o20b17o28b7o4b112o$442b333o23b6o49b109o$442b336o
78b106o$443b336o80b103o$443b337o82b100o$443b337o84b38ob59o$444b336o86b
32o6b58o$444b336o87b29o8b58o$444b336o88b26o11b57o$444b336o89b23o13b57o
$445b335o89b21o16b56o$445b335o89b19o18b56o$445b334o91b16o21b55o$446b
46o17b270o91b14o24b54o$447b45o18b268o93b11o26b54o$448b43o20b267o95b7o
30b52o$450b41o21b265o135b51o$452b38o23b264o139b47o$453b37o24b262o141b
47o$455b34o26b261o142b46o$457b32o27b259o144b46o$458b30o29b166ob90o146b
45o$460b28o30b161o14b81o146b46o$462b25o32b156o26b72o148b45o$463b24o33b
151o36b65o150b45o$465b21o35b148o41b57o156b44o$467b19o36b145o46b49o161b
45o$468b18o37b142o51b41o167b44o$470b15o39b140o55b33o173b44o$472b13o41b
136o60b25o178b44o$473b11o43b134o63b18o184b43o$475b9o45b131o266b44o$
477b6o47b128o268b45o$478b5o49b125o270b45o$480b2o51b122o272b45o$535b
116o276b46o$536b113o278b46o$536b111o279b48o$537b107o282b48o$537b98o
291b49o$537b97o292b49o$538b96o292b49o$539b94o293b50o$540b92o293b51o$
542b88o295b51o$543b87o295b51o$543b86o296b51o$543b86o296b51o$544b84o
297b51o$544b83o298b51o$544b82o299b51o$544b81o300b51o$545b78o302b52o$
545b77o303b52o$546b75o304b52o$547b72o306b52o$548b69o308b53o$550b66o
309b53o$551b64o310b54o$551b63o311b55o$551b62o312b55o$552b61o313b54o$
552b60o314b54o$552b60o314b55o$552b60o314b55o$553b58o315b55o$553b58o
315b56o$553b58o315b56o$554b57o315b57o$554b57o315b57o$554b57o315b58o$
554b58o314b58o$554b58o314b59o$555b57o314b60o$555b57o315b59o$555b57o
315b60o$555b57o315b60o$556b56o315b60o$557b55o315b60o$558b54o316b60o$
559b53o316b60o$560b52o317b59o$562b50o318b58o$562b50o319b57o$562b51o
319b56o$563b50o320b55o$563b50o321b55o$563b50o322b54o$563b50o323b53o$
563b50o325b51o$564b49o326b50o$564b49o328b48o$565b48o329b47o$567b46o
330b46o$570b43o331b45o$572b41o332b44o$574b39o332b45o$576b38o332b44o$
579b35o332b44o$582b32o332b44o$584b30o333b44o$588b26o333b45o$589b25o
334b44o$591b23o334b43o$592b22o335b42o$593b21o335b41o$593b21o336b40o$
594b20o337b38o$595b19o337b38o$596b18o338b36o$599b16o337b36o$609b6o338b
35o$953b34o$954b33o$955b32o$955b31o$956b30o$957b29o$958b27o$959b26o$
960b25o$961b23o$961b23o$962b21o$963b20o$964b18o$964b17o$965b14o$966b2o
!
EDIT: Or in Canada:
Code: Select all
x = 456, y = 494, rule = B3/S23
226b4o$226b4o$225b6o$225b6o$224b8o$224b8o$223b10o$223b10o$222b12o$222b
12o$221b14o$221b14o$220b16o$219b18o$219b18o$218b20o$218b20o$217b22o$
217b22o$216b24o$216b24o$215b26o$215b26o$214b28o$214b28o$213b30o$213b
30o$212b32o$212b32o$211b34o$211b34o$210b36o$210b36o$209b38o$209b38o$
208b40o$208b40o$207b42o$207b42o$206b44o$206b44o$205b46o$205b46o$204b
48o$204b48o$203b50o$203b50o$202b52o$202b52o$201b54o$201b54o$200b56o$
200b56o$199b58o$198b59o$198b60o$197b62o$197b62o$196b64o$136b2o58b64o
58b2o$135b6o54b66o54b6o$135b7o53b66o53b7o$135b8o51b68o51b8o$136b9o49b
68o49b9o$136b11o46b70o46b11o$136b13o44b70o44b13o$136b14o43b70o43b14o$
136b16o40b72o40b16o$136b18o37b74o37b18o$136b19o36b74o36b19o$137b21o32b
76o32b21o$137b22o31b76o31b22o$137b23o30b76o30b23o$137b26o26b78o26b26o$
137b28o23b80o23b28o$138b27o23b80o23b27o$138b30o19b82o19b30o$138b32o17b
82o17b32o$138b33o16b82o16b33o$139b34o13b84o13b34o$139b35o11b86o11b35o$
139b37o8b88o8b37o$139b40o2b94o2b40o$139b178o$139b178o$139b178o$140b
176o$140b176o$140b176o$140b176o$140b176o$141b174o$141b174o$141b174o$
141b174o$142b172o$142b172o$142b172o$142b172o$142b172o$142b172o$142b
172o$143b170o$143b170o$143b170o$143b170o$144b168o$144b168o$144b168o$
144b168o$145b166o$145b166o$145b166o$145b166o$145b166o$145b166o$145b
166o$146b164o$146b164o$146b164o$146b164o$146b164o$147b162o$147b162o$
147b162o$147b162o$148b160o$148b160o$148b160o$148b160o$148b160o$149b
158o$149b158o$149b158o$149b158o$149b158o$149b158o$150b156o$150b156o$
95b2o53b156o53b2o$94b4o52b156o52b4o$94b4o52b156o52b4o$93b6o52b154o52b
6o$93b7o51b154o51b7o$92b9o50b154o50b9o$92b10o49b154o49b10o$92b11o49b
152o49b11o$91b13o48b152o48b13o$91b14o47b152o47b14o$90b16o46b152o46b16o
$89b18o45b152o45b18o$89b19o44b152o44b19o$89b20o43b152o43b20o$88b22o43b
150o43b22o$88b23o42b150o42b23o$88b24o41b150o41b24o$87b26o40b150o40b26o
$87b27o40b148o40b27o$86b29o39b148o39b29o$86b30o38b148o38b30o$7b4o74b
32o37b148o37b32o74b4o$6b11o68b32o37b148o37b32o68b11o$6b16o63b34o36b
146o36b34o63b16o$6b19o59b35o36b146o36b35o59b19o$7b23o54b36o35b146o35b
36o54b23o$7b28o48b38o34b146o34b38o48b28o$7b32o44b39o33b146o33b39o44b
32o$8b34o40b41o32b146o32b41o40b34o$8b42o32b42o32b144o32b42o32b42o$9b
44o29b43o31b144o31b43o28b45o$9b48o24b45o30b144o30b45o24b48o$9b54o17b
47o29b144o29b47o17b54o$9b58o13b48o28b144o28b48o13b58o$10b61o7b51o28b
142o28b51o7b61o$10b120o27b142o27b120o$10b120o27b142o27b120o$11b120o26b
142o26b120o$11b121o26b140o26b121o$12b121o25b140o25b121o$12b122o24b140o
24b122o$12b123o23b140o23b123o$12b124o22b140o22b124o$13b124o21b140o21b
124o$13b125o20b140o20b125o$13b126o20b138o20b126o$14b126o19b138o19b126o
$14b126o19b138o19b126o$14b127o18b138o18b127o$15b127o17b138o17b127o$15b
128o17b136o17b128o$15b129o16b136o16b129o$16b129o14b138o14b129o$16b130o
13b138o13b130o$16b131o12b138o12b131o$17b131o10b140o10b131o$17b132o8b
142o8b132o$17b135o4b144o4b135o$18b420o$18b420o$18b420o$19b418o$19b418o
$19b418o$19b418o$20b416o$20b416o$21b414o$21b414o$21b414o$22b412o$22b
412o$22b412o$22b412o$23b410o$23b410o$23b409o$24b408o$24b408o$25b406o$
25b406o$25b406o$25b406o$26b404o$26b404o$26b404o$27b402o$27b402o$27b
402o$28b400o$28b400o$28b400o$29b398o$29b398o$29b398o$29b398o$29b398o$
28b400o$28b400o$26b404o$26b404o$24b408o$21b414o$19b418o$17b422o$14b
428o$13b430o$11b434o$8b440o$6b444o$4b448o$b454o$456o$456o$456o$456o$b
454o$2b452o$3b450o$4b448o$6b444o$6b444o$8b440o$9b438o$10b436o$12b432o$
13b430o$14b428o$15b426o$17b422o$18b420o$19b418o$20b416o$22b412o$22b
412o$24b408o$25b406o$26b404o$28b400o$29b398o$30b396o$31b394o$33b390o$
34b388o$35b386o$37b382o$38b380o$38b380o$40b376o$41b374o$42b372o$43b
370o$45b366o$46b364o$47b362o$49b358o$50b356o$51b354o$53b350o$54b348o$
54b348o$56b344o$57b342o$58b340o$59b338o$61b334o$62b332o$63b330o$65b
326o$66b324o$67b322o$69b318o$70b316o$70b316o$73b310o$73b310o$74b308o$
76b304o$77b302o$78b300o$79b298o$81b294o$82b292o$83b290o$85b286o$86b
284o$87b282o$89b278o$89b278o$90b276o$92b272o$93b270o$94b268o$96b264o$
97b262o$98b260o$99b258o$101b254o$102b252o$103b250o$105b246o$105b246o$
106b244o$108b240o$109b238o$110b236o$112b232o$113b230o$114b228o$115b
226o$116b224o$117b222o$117b222o$117b222o$117b222o$117b222o$116b224o$
116b224o$116b224o$115b226o$115b226o$114b228o$114b228o$114b228o$114b
228o$113b230o$113b230o$112b232o$112b232o$111b234o$111b234o$111b234o$
111b234o$110b236o$110b236o$109b238o$109b238o$108b240o$108b101o4b30o4b
101o$108b96o12b24o12b96o$107b92o18b22o18b92o$107b84o27b20o27b84o$107b
80o32b18o32b80o$107b75o38b16o38b75o$106b68obo44b16o44bob68o$105b64o52b
14o52b64o$105b59o57b14o57b59o$105b55o61b14o61b55o$104b48o69b14o69b48o$
104b44o73b14o73b44o$104b38o79b14o79b38o$104b30o87b14o87b30o$103b27o91b
14o91b27o$103b22o96b14o96b22o$103b14o104b14o104b14o$103b10o108b14o108b
10o$104b4o113b14o113b4o$221b14o$221b14o$221b14o$221b14o$221b14o$221b
14o$221b14o$220b15o$220b16o$220b16o$220b16o$220b16o$220b16o$220b16o$
220b16o$220b16o$220b16o$220b16o$220b16o$220b16o$220b16o$220b16o$220b
16o$219b18o$219b18o$219b18o$219b18o$219b18o$219b18o$219b18o$219b18o$
219b18o$219b18o$219b18o$219b18o$219b18o$219b18o$219b18o$218b20o$218b
20o$218b20o$218b20o$218b20o$218b20o$218b20o$218b20o$218b20o$218b20o$
218b20o$218b20o$218b20o$218b20o$218b20o$218b20o$218b20o$218b20o$218b
20o$218b20o$218b20o$218b20o$218b20o$218b20o$218b20o$218b20o$218b20o$
218b20o$217b22o$217b22o$217b22o$217b22o$217b22o$217b22o$217b22o$217b
22o$217b22o$217b22o$217b22o$217b22o$217b22o$217b22o$216b23o$216b24o$
216b24o$216b24o$216b24o$216b24o$216b24o$216b24o$216b24o$216b24o$216b
24o$216b24o$216b24o$216b24o$216b24o$215b25o$215b26o$215b26o!
Now, those aren't soups, eh? They wouldn't even fit into the soup search results thread – no mention of syntheses up there.
Re: Soup-based syntheses
Posted: September 29th, 2019, 6:25 pm
by Entity Valkyrie 2
They're not soups.
Re: Soup-based syntheses
Posted: September 29th, 2019, 7:22 pm
by AGreason
If they are neither soups nor syntheses, why post them in the "soup-based syntheses" thread?
Re: Soup-based syntheses
Posted: September 29th, 2019, 7:56 pm
by Ian07
Hunting wrote:Code: Select all
x = 10, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
bo$obo3bobo$obo3b3o$bo3bo3bo$6bo2bo$6bobo!
Sadly, this won't reduce the glider cost of that still life.
It does, however, create syntheses for these:
Code: Select all
x = 64, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
7bo44b2o$6bobo42bo2bo$5bo2bo41bo2bo$6b2o43b2o$16bobo42bobo$16b2o43b2o$
17bo44bo4$b2o43b2o$obo42bobo$2bo2b2o40bo2b2o$4b2o6b3o34b2o6b3o$6bo5bo
38bo5bo$13bo44bo!
Hunting wrote:
This one's even more useless: 9 gliders for Aries between two blocks = a waste of gliders.
Code: Select all
x = 13, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
6b3o3$11b2o$10b2o$12bo2$4bo$3bobo$3b2o3$3o3b3o!
6G:
Code: Select all
x = 50, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
37bo$2bo35bo$obo33b3o$b2o2$4b2o$4bobo32bobo5b3o$4bo35b2o$40bo$36bo$8b
3o25b2o$8bo26bobo$9bo37b3o!
Re: Soup-based syntheses
Posted: September 30th, 2019, 12:43 am
by Hunting
Ian07 wrote:
Hunting wrote:
This one's even more useless: 9 gliders for Aries between two blocks = a waste of gliders.
Code: Select all
x = 13, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
6b3o3$11b2o$10b2o$12bo2$4bo$3bobo$3b2o3$3o3b3o!
6G:
Code: Select all
x = 50, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
37bo$2bo35bo$obo33b3o$b2o2$4b2o$4bobo32bobo5b3o$4bo35b2o$40bo$36bo$8b
3o25b2o$8bo26bobo$9bo37b3o!
And yes, I
am aware of the fact that there already exists a much better synthesis for it. That's why I marked it as Useless.
Re: Soup-based syntheses
Posted: September 30th, 2019, 6:31 pm
by Ian07
Hunting wrote:
And yes, I am aware of the fact that there already exists a much better synthesis for it. That's why I marked it as Useless.
True, it's just that I was inspired to create a 6G after looking at that since I had never really looked at the old 7G synthesis before and therefore didn't realize until now that it would be so easy to reduce.
Re: Soup-based syntheses
Posted: October 1st, 2019, 9:00 pm
by Entity Valkyrie 2
A reaction from a soup:
Code: Select all
x = 30, y = 30, rule = B3/S23
6b2o6b2o6b2o$5bo2bo4bo2bo4bo2bo$6b2o6b2o6b2o2$14b2o$bo11bo2bo11bo$obo
4b3o4b2o4b3o4bobo$obo3bo3bo8bo3bo3bobo$bo4bo2bo4b2o4bo2bo4bo$6bobo4bo
2bo4bobo$7bo6b2o6bo3$bo3bo3bo10bo3bo3bo$obobobobobo8bobobobobobo$obobo
bobobo8bobobobobobo$bo3bo3bo10bo3bo3bo3$7bo6b2o6bo$6bobo4bo2bo4bobo$bo
4bo2bo4b2o4bo2bo4bo$obo3bo3bo8bo3bo3bobo$obo4b3o4b2o4b3o4bobo$bo11bo2b
o11bo$14b2o2$6b2o6b2o6b2o$5bo2bo4bo2bo4bo2bo$6b2o6b2o6b2o!
Synthesizable? Can the unstacked hives be replaced with gliders or LWSSes? Can the "big loaf" 's be synthesized?
Re: Soup-based syntheses
Posted: October 4th, 2019, 7:25 pm
by Ian07
Strictly volatile p6 in 30G:
Code: Select all
x = 150, y = 52, rule = B3/S23
123bo$121b2o$122b2o4$112bo$113b2o$112b2o2$119bo$114bo2b2o$112bobo3b2o$
113b2o$130bo6bo3bobo$130bobo3bo4b2o$130b2o4b3o3bo$113bo$114bo2bo$53bo
58b3o2bobo9b3o6bo$54bo62b2o10bo7b2o$4bo47b3o68b2o5bo6bobo$5bo117b2o$3b
3o51bo90bo$55b2o90b2o$8bo47b2o61b2o6b2o18bobo$6b2o41bobo46bobo18b2o6b
2o$7b2o41b2o47b2o$obo47bo48bo$b2o120b2o$bo106bobo6bo5b2o$58b2o49b2o7bo
10b2o$58b2o49bo6b3o9bobo2b3o$130bo2bo$134bo$54b2o49bo3b3o4b2o$54b2o49b
2o4bo3bobo$104bobo3bo6bo$133b2o$128b2o3bobo$129b2o2bo$128bo2$134b2o$
133b2o$135bo4$124b2o$125b2o$124bo!
Soup:
Code: Select all
x = 32, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
2bobobob4ob2o5bo2bob2obobo$ob2obo5b6ob2ob2ob3o2bo$bo3b4obo2b2obob2obo
4b3ob2o$obo2b2ob2obo2bo2bo6bo5bo$2bob2obob2o5bobo3bob4o3bo$3ob8o2b2o2b
2o2bo2b6o$2o2b2o2b3o3bob2ob5o2bob2obo$bob2o2b2obo3bo3bobo3bob2obo$o5bo
2b2o3bobo2bob2ob3ob2obo$bo2b3obo2b2obo3b4obob4o2bo$b2o3bob2obob3o7b5ob
obo$o5b2obo2b4ob2o2b2o3bobob2o$b2o2b2ob2o2b6ob2obo7bo$b2ob2obobobobobo
2b4o7b3o$3bo2bo4b2o2b2o2b8ob4o$b2obobobo3bob8o4bo3bo$bo3bo4b8obo3bobob
ob2o$4ob8o2b2o2b2o4bo2bo$3o7b4o2bobobobobob2ob2o$bo7bob2ob6o2b2ob2o2b
2o$2obobo3b2o2b2ob4o2bob2o5bo$obob5o7b3obob2obo3b2o$o2b4obob4o3bob2o2b
ob3o2bo$ob2ob3ob2obo2bobo3b2o2bo5bo$2bob2obo3bobo3bo3bob2o2b2obo$ob2ob
o2b5ob2obo3b3o2b2o2b2o$b6o2bo2b2o2b2o2b8ob3o$o3b4obo3bobo5b2obob2obo$b
o5bo6bo2bo2bob2ob2o2bobo$2ob3o4bob2obob2o2bob4o3bo$2bo2b3ob2ob2ob6o5bo
b2obo$bobob2obo2bo5b2ob4obobobo!
Re: Soup-based syntheses
Posted: December 1st, 2019, 12:49 pm
by Ian07
This reaction would significantly reduce the
Jack synthesis, but I can't find a way to insert the pre-pulsar into such a tight space:
Code: Select all
x = 118, y = 55, rule = B3/S23
104bo$103bo$63bobo37b3o9bobo$64b2o49b2o$64bo51bo2$93bo$91b2o$92b2o3$
92b2o$92bobo$92bo12$84bo2b2o3b2o2bo$10b3o9bo61b4obobob4o$2o2b2o3b5o3b
2o2bo67bobo$bobo2bobo5bobo2bobo62b4obobob4o$bo2b2o3b5o3b2o2b2o61bo2b2o
3b2o2bo$o9b3o11$88bo$86bobo$87b2o3$87b2o$88b2o$87bo2$64bo51bo$64b2o49b
2o$63bobo9b3o37bobo$77bo$76bo!
Re: Soup-based syntheses
Posted: December 1st, 2019, 1:41 pm
by Kazyan
Ian07 wrote: December 1st, 2019, 12:49 pm
This reaction would significantly reduce the
Jack synthesis, but I can't find a way to insert the pre-pulsar into such a tight space:
Code: Select all
x = 118, y = 55, rule = B3/S23
104bo$103bo$63bobo37b3o9bobo$64b2o49b2o$64bo51bo2$93bo$91b2o$92b2o3$
92b2o$92bobo$92bo12$84bo2b2o3b2o2bo$10b3o9bo61b4obobob4o$2o2b2o3b5o3b
2o2bo67bobo$bobo2bobo5bobo2bobo62b4obobob4o$bo2b2o3b5o3b2o2b2o61bo2b2o
3b2o2bo$o9b3o11$88bo$86bobo$87b2o3$87b2o$88b2o$87bo2$64bo51bo$64b2o49b
2o$63bobo9b3o37bobo$77bo$76bo!
Using this beehive+pi equivalent from spark_search allows a 3G pulsar-making collision to work:
Code: Select all
x = 13, y = 43, rule = B3/S23
o$b2o$2o3$9bo$8bo$3bo4b3o$4b2o$3b2o2$9bo$7b2o$8b2o6$2bo$obo9bo$b2o2b2o
3b2o$4bobo4b2o$6bo6$8b2o$7b2o$9bo2$3b2o$4b2o$3bo4b3o$8bo$9bo3$2o$b2o$o
!
The lowermost and topmost gliders are cleanup. It might, maybe, be possible to deflect the otherwise-active areas with 1G each to replace a glider in the second step.
Re: Soup-based syntheses
Posted: December 3rd, 2019, 4:04 am
by Entity Valkyrie 2
I remember posting something like this long ago:
Code: Select all
x = 363, y = 327, rule = B3/S23
270bo$268b2o$269b2o3$185bo$186bo$184b3o77bo$264bobo$264b2o2$162bobo$
163b2o$163bo2$170bo$171bo$169b3o5$274bo$274bobo$274b2o6$229bo$230bo$
228b3o6bo$235b2o$12bo223b2o$10bobo215bo$11b2o216b2o$228b2o2$11bobo8bo$
12b2o7bo$12bo8b3o2$118b2o96b2o$50bo66bobo74bobo18bobo$46bo2bo67b2o76b
2o18b2o$44b2o3b3o143bo$17bo27b2o168bo$18b2o195b2o$17b2o195bobo2$193b2o
3bo117bobo$192bobo3b2o32bo83b2obob2o$138b2o54bo2bobo33b2ob2o81bobobo$
124b2o12bobo81b2o8b2o2bobo77b2obo3bo$44b2o78b2o13b2o81b2o13b2o78bob4o$
13bo30bobo266b2o2bo7bob2o$13b2o12bo16bo267bo2bobob7obo$12bobo13b2o88b
2o96b2o94b2obobo2bo7bo$27b2o89b2o96b2o97bob2o3bob4o$23b2o103b2o96b2o
84b4obo3b2obo$22b2o13bobo88b2o96b2o83bo7bo2bobob2o$7bo16bo12b2o273bob
7obobo2bo$5bobo30bo272b2obo7bo2b2o$6b2o99b2o13b2o81b2o13b2o95b4obo$
107bobo12b2o81bobo2b2o8b2o94bo3bob2o$108b2o96b2ob2o33bobo2bo66bobobo$
211bo32b2o3bobo65b2obob2o$245bo3b2o70bobo2$33b2o192bobo$32b2o193b2o$5b
2o27bo193bo$3o3b2o240bo$2bo2bo123b2o96b2o18b2o$bo126bobo95bobo18bobo$
128b2o96b2o2$28b3o8bo$30bo7b2o$29bo8bobo2$214b2o$39b2o172b2o$39bobo
173bo$39bo166b2o$207b2o$206bo6b3o$213bo$214bo6$168b2o$167bobo$169bo5$
272b3o$272bo$273bo2$280bo$279b2o$279bobo2$178b2o$177bobo$179bo77b3o$
257bo$258bo3$173b2o$174b2o$173bo54$168bo$166b2o$167b2o3$49bo$50bo$48b
3o111bo$162bobo$162b2o2$26bobo$27b2o$27bo2$34bo$35bo$33b3o5$172bo$172b
obo$172b2o6$93bo$94bo$92b3o40bo$133b2o$134b2o$92bo$93b2o$92b2o7$58bobo
$59b2o$59bo5$89bo$90bo5bo$88b3o6b2o$96b2o2$89bo$90b2o6bo$89b2o7bobo$
98b2o2$333bo2b3o2bob2obo2b3ob2obo2bobo$126bo204bob4obo4b2o3b7o4b2o$
121bobo2bobo203b2o4bob5o3bo3bobobob5o$121b2o3b2o203b4obo2bob2o6bob3ob
3obobo$122bo210bob2o2b3ob4obo4bobo2bo2bo$96bo45bobo2bo186bob2o4b3o3bo
4bobob3ob2o$97b2o43b2o3bobo181bob2o4bo2b6o4bo2bobo4bo$96b2o45bo3b2o
185b6ob4o2b2o4b3o4b3o$331b3o4bo2bobo6bobo2b2ob2o$125bobo203b2ob3obo2b
2o3bo4bo6bobo$92bo32b2o205b3o2bobo5bob3obob3o2b3obo$92b2o26b3o3bo204b
2obo5b2o2bo2b2obo2bob3ob2o$91bobo26bo210b2o6bo2bobo3b2o4b5ob3o$121bo
209b2obo6bobobob2ob2o3b4ob3o$98b2o232b2ob2obo2b5o2b2o2bo3bobo$97b2o7bo
230b2o2b2obo8bo2bobo3bo$99bo7b2o222bo3bobo2bo8bob2o2b2o$106b2o227bobo
3bo2b2o2b5o2bob2ob2o$84bo246b3ob4o3b2ob2obobobo6bob2o$85bo26bobo216b3o
b5o4b2o3bobo2bo6b2o$79bo3b3o26b2o219b2ob3obo2bob2o2bo2b2o5bob2o$79b2o
32bo217bob3o2b3obob3obo5bobo2b3o$78bobo252bobo6bo4bo3b2o2bob3ob2o$334b
2ob2o2bobo6bobo2bo4b3o$57b2o3bo45b2o221b3o4b3o4b2o2b4ob6o$56bobo3b2o
43b2o222bo4bobo2bo4b6o2bo4b2obo$58bo2bobo45bo221b2ob3obobo4bo3b3o4b2ob
o$83bo248bo2bo2bobo4bob4ob3o2b2obo$78b2o3b2o247bobob3ob3obo6b2obo2bob
4o$77bobo2bobo246b5obobobo3bo3b5obo4b2o$79bo253b2o4b7o3b2o4bob4obo$
332bobo2bob2ob3o2bob2obo2b3o2bo2$106b2o$105bobo7b2o$107bo6b2o$116bo2$
108b2o$107b2o6b3o$109bo5bo$116bo5$146bo$145b2o$145bobo7$112b2o$111b2o$
113bo$70b2o$71b2o$70bo40b3o$111bo$112bo6$32b2o$31bobo$33bo5$170b3o$
170bo$171bo2$178bo$177b2o$177bobo2$42b2o$41bobo$43bo111b3o$155bo$156bo
3$37b2o$38b2o$37bo!
Re: Soup-based syntheses
Posted: December 4th, 2019, 4:32 pm
by Ian07
Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote: December 3rd, 2019, 4:04 am
I remember posting something like this long ago:
This
would work if not for the gliders crossing paths:
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x = 34, y = 34, rule = B3/S23
26bo$26bobo$26b2o$7bo12bo$8b2o4bo3bobo$bo5b2o5bobo2b2o$2bo11b2o$3o25bo
bo$12bo15b2o$10bobo16bo$11b2o11bo$23bo$23b3o$3b3o$5bo21b3o$4bo11b2o9bo
$15bo2bo9bo$5bo9bo2bo$6bo9b2o11bo$4b3o21bo$28b3o$8b3o$10bo$9bo11b2o$4b
o16bobo$4b2o15bo$3bobo25b3o$18b2o11bo$13b2o2bobo5b2o5bo$13bobo3bo4b2o$
13bo12bo$6b2o$5bobo$7bo!
synthesise-patt results for the unstable object at gen 17:
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x = 1136, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
2bobo70bo74bo74bobo76bo75bo73bo84bo74bo60bobo73bo76bo72bo75bo77bo78bo$
3b2o71b2o73b2o73b2o76bobo73bobo71bobo82bobo71bo62b2o74bo76bo72bo75bo
77b2o75b2o$3bo71b2o73b2o74bo77b2o74b2o72b2o83b2o72b3o60bo73b3o74b3o70b
3o73b3o76b2o69bo6bobo$301bo75bo749bo$79bo74bo4bo78bo63bo75bo71bo455bo
73b3o142b3o$bo77b2o3b2o68b2o3bobo77bo60b3o73b3o72b2o372b3o79bo74bo68bo
$2bo75bobo3bobo66bobo3b2o76b3o210b2o3bo369bo79b3o73bo70bo$3o2bo78bo
370b2o369bo149bo73b3o74b2o$5bobo293bo74bo77bobo519b2o150b2o$5b2o230b2o
61b2o74b2o452b3o70b3o69bobo149bo$238b2o60bobo72bobo452bo72bo148b2o$
237bo593bo72bo148b2o$526bo157bo367bo$527bo73bo83bo73bo$525b3o74bo80b3o
74bo$600b3o155b3o2$527b3o155b3o$529bo72b3o82bo72b3o$528bo75bo81bo75bo$
603bo157bo!
Re: Soup-based syntheses
Posted: December 28th, 2019, 8:33 pm
by dvgrn
Okay, only 112 unsynthesized xs19s are left. Here's the kind of synthesis that nobody wants to see in Catagolue for
xs19_ok2t2koz0343:
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#C from the second xs19_ok2t2koz0343 soup,
#C http://catagolue.appspot.com/hashsoup/C1/l_JhHhDKbaebU67610504/b3s23
x = 68, y = 75, rule = B3/S23
47bo$45b2o$46b2o2$28bo$22bo4bo$21bo5b3o$21b3o30bo$52b2o$53b2o2$22b2o$
22bobo31bo$22bo31b2o$55b2o33$2o$b2o$o12$57bo$56b2o$56bobo3$65b2o$65bob
o$65bo3$13b3o$5b3o7bo$7bo6bo$6bo!
I couldn't seem to locate a later stage of this with 3G-constructible active messes. But even if I didn't miss something obvious, I bet there's something 4G, or some other clever trick with this or one of the other soups.
EDIT: xs19_gs2pd2kozx32 has only one soup, but it does allow for an obvious synthesis. Might be just about as ugly as the previous one, though:
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x = 39, y = 32, rule = LifeHistory
12.A$13.A22.A$11.3A22.A.A$36.2A$27.3A5$13.2A12.D$13.2A11.3D$25.5D$24.
2D3.2D$25.5D$26.3D$27.D$19.A$9.2A8.A$9.2A8.A$26.A$.A24.A$2.A23.A$3A$
4.D$3.3D$2.D2.2D4.2A$10.A.A$11.A$15.A$.A13.A$.2A12.A$A.A!
There's a nice soup for
xs19_gs2pb8ozw346. Can this be made into a (not often usable) component?
Code: Select all
x = 11, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
8bo$8b2o$b6ob3o4$o$3o$3bo$2bobo$2b2o!
Re: Soup-based syntheses
Posted: January 2nd, 2020, 1:03 pm
by Hdjensofjfnen
Could work for an xs23:
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x = 10, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
6bo$7bo$5bob2o$5bobo$5bo3$o8bo$o8bo$o8bo$3b2o$2bo2bo$3bobo$4bo!
EDIT:
dvgrn wrote: December 28th, 2019, 8:33 pm
EDIT: xs19_gs2pd2kozx32 has only one soup, but it does allow for an obvious synthesis. Might be just about as ugly as the previous one, though:
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x = 39, y = 32, rule = LifeHistory
12.A$13.A22.A$11.3A22.A.A$36.2A$27.3A5$13.2A12.D$13.2A11.3D$25.5D$24.
2D3.2D$25.5D$26.3D$27.D$19.A$9.2A8.A$9.2A8.A$26.A$.A24.A$2.A23.A$3A$
4.D$3.3D$2.D2.2D4.2A$10.A.A$11.A$15.A$.A13.A$.2A12.A$A.A!
Not necessarily:
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x = 15, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
2bo$b2o$o$b4o$8b2o$8bo3b3o$12b3o$9bob2o$9b2o$8b2o!
Re: Soup-based syntheses
Posted: January 2nd, 2020, 1:38 pm
by Ian07
Hdjensofjfnen wrote: January 2nd, 2020, 1:03 pm
Could work for an xs23:
8G:
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x = 112, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
104bo$104bobo$5bo98b2o3bo$4bo95bo8bobo$4b3o94b2o6b2o$61bo38b2o$60bo$7b
2o51b3o$6b2o$8bo54b2o$47b3o13bobo$63bo35bo8bo$51b2o46bo8bo$b2o47bo2bo
45bo8bo$obo48bobo48b2o$2bo49bo48bo2bo$102bobo$103bo!
Re: Soup-based syntheses
Posted: January 2nd, 2020, 1:44 pm
by dvgrn
Hdjensofjfnen wrote: January 2nd, 2020, 1:03 pm
Could work for an xs23...
That's a nice reaction -- cheap, fast, and clean. On the other hand,
xs23_gbb8b96z123033 has so many C1 soups that quite possibly there's an even cheaper recipe waiting to be found.
Looks like I'm using the same tools as Ian07... but I think my incarnation ought to win, since it has one more stage:
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x = 215, y = 20, rule = LifeHistory
155.A$155.A.A$155.2A3.A$151.A8.A.A$56.D4.A44.D45.2A2.B3.2A45.D.B$57.D
2.A46.D43.2A4.2DB44.2B.BD2B$55.D.2D.3A42.D.2D46.4BD40.B.4BDB2D2B$55.D
.D47.D.D46.BD2BD39.8BDBD3B$5.B49.D49.D49.3D38.10BD6B$4.A.B47.3B47.3B
89.18B$4.ABA45.5B45.5B89.6B2A11B$D3.2A44.A5B3.D40.A5B3.A40.A8.A36.5BC
2BAB2A2BD4B$D48.D2CA2B4.D.2A37.2CA2B4.A40.A7.BAB37.3BCABAB2A2BD4B$D
50.2BA2B3.D.A.A37.2BA2B3.A40.A8.A38.3BD2BA5BD3B$3.2D47.ACD2B4.A40.ACD
2B46.2A43.3B2ABCD2A4B$2.D2.D46.D2BDB45.D2BDB45.A2.A44.B2ADABDA3B$3.D.
D.A45.DBD2B45.DBD2B45.A.A45.3BDAC3B$4.D.2AB45.D4B44.AD4B45.A46.4BDB$
6.ABA47.3B44.2A.3B92.3B.B$7.2B48.2B43.ABA2.2B!