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Re: Solitaire of Life

Post by Billabob »

BlinkerSpawn wrote:30:

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x = 11, y = 9, rule = LifeHistory
7.C$.A4.C.A.C$A.C3.C2.CA$.C3.AC$4.C4.2A$4.C4.C$3.AC.AC.A$2.A2.C2.A$2.
CA2.AC!
I think that’s optimal, well done.
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Re: Solitaire of Life

Post by wwei23 »

Can I post a puzzle, since no one else seems to be posting one?
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Re: Solitaire of Life

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Please do.
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Re: Solitaire of Life

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x = 5, y = 5, rule = LifeHistory
.2A$.A.2A$A3.A$2A.A$2.2A!
I myself will offer a 36-cell solution, the smallest I can get:

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x = 11, y = 11, rule = LifeHistory
2.C$.C.C4.2C$.C.C3.C2.C$2.C.2A2.2C$4.A.2A$3.A3.A$3.2A.A$.2C2.2A.C$C2.
C3.C.C$.2C4.C.C$8.C!
After manually inspecting this one, I noticed that the red cells have to be dead.

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x = 7, y = 7, rule = LifeHistory
2.3D$.D2A2D$2DAD2AD$DA3DAD$D2ADA2D$.2D2AD$2.3D!
As a result, to prevent birth on blue, four cells will always be on:

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x = 7, y = 7, rule = LifeHistory
2.3DC$CD2ABD$DBAD2AD$DA3DAD$D2ADABD$.DB2ADC$.C3D!
All solutions must have at least 24 cells.

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x = 7, y = 7, rule = LifeHistory
2B3DCB$CD2A2DB$2DAD2AD$DA3DAD$D2ADA2D$B2D2ADC$BC3D2B!
Four cells to prevent birth on blue:

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x = 7, y = 7, rule = LifeHistory
2.3DC$CB2ADB$2DAD2AD$DA3DAD$D2ADA2D$.BD2ABC$.C3D!
Such cells will touch white, so four more cells are required to stabilize the white cells.
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Re: Solitaire of Life

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wwei23 wrote:I myself will offer a 36-cell solution, the smallest I can get:

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x = 11, y = 11, rule = LifeHistory
2.C$.C.C4.2C$.C.C3.C2.C$2.C.2A2.2C$4.A.2A$3.A3.A$3.2A.A$.2C2.2A.C$C2.
C3.C.C$.2C4.C.C$8.C!
LLS verifies that this the unique optimal solution.
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Re: Solitaire of Life

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Almost posted this as a puzzle, but then I was doing my preparative analysis, and then this happened:

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x = 8, y = 8, rule = LifeHistory
3.3D$2.D2A2D$.2DAD2AD$D2A3DAD$DA2D2A2D$2DADA3D$.D2A2DED$2.5D!
What's the highest minimal stabilization to unstabilized ratio possible? I managed to get 3 in that last puzzle.
This will be the next puzzle with 14 cells, then...

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x = 7, y = 7, rule = LifeHistory
3.3D$2.2D2AD$.D2ADAD$2DA3DA$DA2D2AD$D2ADA2D$.2DA2D!
I managed to find a 38 cell solution.

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x = 11, y = 11, rule = LifeHistory
9.C$2.2C4.C.C$.C2.C3.C.C$.C.C2.2A.C$2.C.2A.A$4.A3.A$3.A2.2A.C$3.2A.A
2.C$.2C2.A2.C$C2.C2.2C$.2C!
I just try to make everything connected pre-blocks, because those tend to be excruciatingly hard.
Now for my analysis!

Every solution will have at least 24 cells.
Three are forced on. Three are needed to stabilize the two in the upper left, four to stabilize the one on the lower right:

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x = 9, y = 9, rule = LifeHistory
2.3B$2.BC3D$3B2D2AD$BCD2ADAD$B2DA3DA$.DA2D2ADE$.D2ADA2DE$2.2DA2DC$5.
2E!
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Re: Solitaire of Life

Post by BlinkerSpawn »

wwei23 wrote:Every solution will have at least 24 cells.
Three are forced on. Three are needed to stabilize the two in the upper left, four to stabilize the one on the lower right:

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x = 9, y = 9, rule = LifeHistory
2.3B$2.BC3D$3B2D2AD$BCD2ADAD$B2DA3DA$.DA2D2ADE$.D2ADA2DE$2.2DA2DC$5.
2E!
This would be a lot more fun if you hadn't done half the solving already

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x = 9, y = 9, rule = LifeHistory
.2C2B$C2.C3D$C.C2D2AD$BCD2ADAD$B2DA3DA$.DA2D2ADE$.D2ADA2DE$2.2DA2DC$
5.2E!
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Re: Solitaire of Life

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That's not even a still life, what's going on here?
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Re: Solitaire of Life

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BlinkerSpawn wrote:
wwei23 wrote:Every solution will have at least 24 cells.
Three are forced on. Three are needed to stabilize the two in the upper left, four to stabilize the one on the lower right:

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x = 9, y = 9, rule = LifeHistory
2.3B$2.BC3D$3B2D2AD$BCD2ADAD$B2DA3DA$.DA2D2ADE$.D2ADA2DE$2.2DA2DC$5.
2E!
This would be a lot more fun if you hadn't done half the solving already

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x = 9, y = 9, rule = LifeHistory
.2C2B$C2.C3D$C.C2D2AD$BCD2ADAD$B2DA3DA$.DA2D2ADE$.D2ADA2DE$2.2DA2DC$
5.2E!
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Searching:
b2-a5k6n7cs12-i3ij4k5j8
b2-a3cs12-i

Currently looking for help searching these rules.

PFP:

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x = 7, y = 3, rule = B2i3-ck4e6/S2-i35n
o5bo$2o3b2o$o5bo!
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Re: Solitaire of Life

Post by gmc_nxtman »

New puzzle:

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x = 10, y = 10, rule = LifeHistory
5.C2.C$8.C$3.C2.C$.C2.C$.C2.C$4.2C2.C$8.C$C$3.C5.C$4.2C!
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Re: Solitaire of Life

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gmc_nxtman wrote:New puzzle:

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x = 10, y = 10, rule = LifeHistory
5.C2.C$8.C$3.C2.C$.C2.C$.C2.C$4.2C2.C$8.C$C$3.C5.C$4.2C!
42:

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x = 15, y = 11, rule = LifeHistory
12.2A$8.AC2.C$7.A2.A.C$7.C.AC.2A$A.2A.CA.C$2A.A.C2.C$5.A2.2C2.CA$4.A
7.C$4.CA2.2A4.A$7.C2.A2.CA$8.2C!
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Re: Solitaire of Life

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42 isn't optimal.
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Re: Solitaire of Life

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38 and 38:

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x = 33, y = 11, rule = LifeHistory
9.2A17.2A$8.C2.C15.C2.C$8.A2.C15.A2.C$6.CA.CA14.CA.CA$4.C2.C15.C2.C$
4.CA.C15.CA.C$5.A.2C2.CA6.2A3.A.2C2.CA$2A.A.A5.C7.A2.A.A5.C$A.AC.A.2A
4.A7.AC.A.2A4.A$6.C2.A2.CA11.C2.A2.CA$7.2C17.2C!
And 38 and 38 and 38:

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x = 49, y = 12, rule = LifeHistory
7.2A15.2A18.2A$6.C2.C13.C2.C16.C2.C$6.A2.C13.A2.C16.A2.C$4.CA.CA12.CA
.CA15.CA.CA$2.C2.C13.C2.C16.C2.C$2.CA.C13.CA.C16.CA.C$3.A.2C2.CA9.A.
2C2.CA12.A.2C2.CA$3.A5.C10.A5.C13.A5.C$.CA.3A4.A6.CA.3A4.A7.A.CA.3A4.
A$2.A.C2.A2.CA4.A2.A.C2.A2.CA7.2A.A.C2.A2.CA$A4.2C9.2A4.2C18.2C$2A!
35:

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x = 11, y = 11, rule = LifeHistory
6.2A$5.C2.C$5.A2.C$3.CA.CA$.C2.C$.CA.C$4.2C2.CA$.3A4.C$C3.2A4.A$2A.C
2.A2.CA$4.2C!
34:

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x = 11, y = 11, rule = LifeHistory
6.2A$5.C2.C$5.A2.C$3.CA.CA$.C2.C$.CA.C$4.2C2.CA$A.2A4.C$CA2.2A4.A$3.C
2.A2.CA$4.2C!
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Re: Solitaire of Life

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Yep, 34 wins.
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Re: Solitaire of Life

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Here's a new one:

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x = 11, y = 10, rule = LifeHistory
7.2C2$4.C4.2C$C8.C$C5.C$.2C3.C$3.C2$6.C$6.C!
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Re: Solitaire of Life

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AforAmpere wrote:Here's a new one:

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x = 11, y = 10, rule = LifeHistory
7.2C2$4.C4.2C$C8.C$C5.C$.2C3.C$3.C2$6.C$6.C!
33

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x = 11, y = 11, rule = LifeHistory
3.2A2.A2.A$3.A3.2C2A$4.A$3.AC4.2C$CA7.C$C5.CA.A$.2CA2.CA.2A$3.C2$6.CA
$6.CA!
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Re: Solitaire of Life

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AforAmpere wrote:Here's a new one:

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x = 11, y = 10, rule = LifeHistory
7.2C2$4.C4.2C$C8.C$C5.C$.2C3.C$3.C2$6.C$6.C!
34:

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x = 13, y = 11, rule = LifeHistory
9.A$3.2A2.2C3A$3.A2.A5.A$4.C2A2.2C.A$CA7.C.A$C5.C2A$.2CA2.C$3.C2$6.CA
$6.CA!
EDIT: Aw really? Darn it!
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Re: Solitaire of Life

Post by BlinkerSpawn »

29 looks better:

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x = 11, y = 11, rule = LifeHistory
7.A$7.2CA$2.2A6.A$.A2.C4.2C$C.2A5.C$C5.CA.A$.2CA2.C.A$3.C2$6.CA$6.CA!
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Re: Solitaire of Life

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31. It doesn't improve the previous one, but is still worth noting, if only for the 16-bitter:

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x = 12, y = 11, rule = LifeHistory
7.A$7.2CA$10.A$.2A.CA3.2C$C.A.A.A2.C$C5.C4.A$.2CA2.CA2.2A$3.C2$6.CA$
6.CA!
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Re: Solitaire of Life

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I like this game so here's a puzzle:

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x = 12, y = 12, rule = LifeHistory
3.C2$10.C$C5.C$6.C.C$.2C2.C$8.C2.C$.C4.2C2.C$.C$7.C$.C4.C$9.C!
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Re: Solitaire of Life

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Saka wrote:I like this game so here's a puzzle:

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x = 12, y = 12, rule = LifeHistory
3.C2$10.C$C5.C$6.C.C$.2C2.C$8.C2.C$.C4.2C2.C$.C$7.C$.C4.C$9.C!
75, isn't optimal.

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x = 15, y = 16, rule = LifeHistory
4.AC$4.2A3.A$8.A.A.CA$.AC5.C.A.2A$.A2.A.A.C.C$3.2C.AC2.A$10.C.AC$3.C
4A2CA.CA$3.C3.A$A4.A3.C4A$3AC4ACA4.A$11.C2A$2.4A2.4A$2.A2.A2.A$9.A$8.
2A!
61:

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x = 15, y = 13, rule = LifeHistory
4.AC$4.2A3.A$8.A.A.CA$.AC5.C.A.2A$.A2.A.A.C.C$3.2C.AC2.A$10.C.AC$3.C
4A2CA.CA$3.C$2A.A.2A.AC4A$A.AC.2A.C5.A$11.C2A$11.A!
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Re: Solitaire of Life

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Here's a 57, definitely suboptimal (although I haven't checked):

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x = 15, y = 13, rule = LifeHistory
4.AC$4.A.A5.2A$6.A5.CA$.AC3.A.CA$.A2.A.A.C.C$3.2C.AC2.A$10.C.AC$3.C4A
2C2.C$3.C8.A.A$2A.A.2A.AC3.2A$A.AC.2A.C$9.2AC$11.A!
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Re: Solitaire of Life

Post by AforAmpere »

Here's 50:

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x = 14, y = 13, rule = LifeHistory
4.AC$4.2A$11.AC$.AC4.AC.A.A$.A2.A.A.C.C$3.2C.AC2.A$10.C.AC$3.CA.2A2C
2.C$3.C.2A5.A$2A.A5.C2A$A.AC4.C$9.2AC$11.A!

And a different 50:

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x = 14, y = 14, rule = LifeHistory
5.2A$5.CA2$11.AC$2.CA3.AC.A.A$2.A.A.A.C.C$3.2C.AC2.A$10.C.AC$3.CA.2A
2C2.C$3.C.2A5.A$2A.A5.C2A$A.AC4.C$9.2AC$11.A!
And another:

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x = 14, y = 14, rule = LifeHistory
4.2A$4.AC2$11.AC$2.CA3.AC.A.A$2.A2.A2.C.C$3.2C2AC2.A$10.C.AC$3.CA.2A
2C2.C$3.C.2A5.A$2A.A5.C2A$A.AC4.C$9.2AC$11.A!
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Re: Solitaire of Life

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44:

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x = 14, y = 13, rule = LifeHistory
2.2A$2.AC2$9.AC$CA3.AC.A.A$A.A3.C.CA$.2C2.C$5.A.AC2AC$.CA3.2C2.C2.A$.
C10.2A$2.A3.AC$.CA3.C2.A$8.AC!
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Re: Solitaire of Life

Post by wwei23 »

Here's another 44:

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x = 12, y = 13, rule = LifeHistory
2.2A$2.AC2$5.2A2.AC$CA4.C3.A$A.A3.C.C$.2C2.CA.2A$5.A2.C2.C$.CA3.2C2.C
A$.C$2.A3.AC2.2A$.CA3.C.A2.A$9.CA!
Edit:
41:

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x = 12, y = 13, rule = LifeHistory
2.2A$2.AC2$5.2A2.AC$CA4.C3.A$A.A3.C.C$.2C2.CA.2A$5.A2.C2.C$.CA3.2C2.C
A$.C$2.A3.AC$.CA3.C2.A$8.AC!
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