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Re: Long-lived methuselahs
Posted: September 19th, 2019, 10:10 am
by NickGotts
Cross-posted from "Systematic Survey of Small Patterns".
Here are two more variants of bunnies10a (10-cell single-cluster patterns that last 17425 steps). The one on the left has a bounding box 7*5, and an MCPS of 11, which according to the usual criteria for methuselahs makes it the preferred variant.
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x = 27, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
bo19bo$3o17b2obo$3bobo19bo$bo2b2o15b2ob2o$6bo19bo!
Re: Long-lived methuselahs
Posted: November 8th, 2019, 5:15 pm
by NickGotts
Another slight improvement (in terms of life-span) to bunnies10. Let's call this one bunnies10b: lasts 17431.
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x = 9, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
o$bo$2bo$3bo$2b2obo$6b3o!
Bounding box 9*6, MCPS 11.
Here's an alternative form - the two have the same immediate successor:
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x = 9, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
o$2bo$bo$3bo$2b2obo$6b3o!
Same bounding box, but MCPS of 13.
Step 29 of bunnies10b is the same as step 23 of bunnies 10a.
Re: Long-lived methuselahs
Posted: November 19th, 2023, 1:59 pm
by HerscheltheHerschel
Presenting the B-pair Switchuselah (sorry for necropost):
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x = 43, y = 60, rule = B3/S23
7bobo$6bo$7bo2bo$9b3o7$bo$3o2$3o$b2ob2o34b2o$3bo37b2o$40b2o$40bo4$40bo
$40b2o$41b2o$40b2o4$40b2o$41b2o$40b2o$40bo4$40bo$40b2o$41b2o$40b2o4$
40b2o$41b2o$40b2o$40bo4$40bo$40b2o$41b2o$40b2o4$40b2o$41b2o$40b2o$40bo
!
Re: Long-lived methuselahs
Posted: April 10th, 2024, 12:32 pm
by C_R_116
I'm going to this thread since it's the only topic relevant to my post.
I've been trying to make methuselahs that try to continue evolving NOT based on pure random chaos:
Example 5625M:
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x = 20, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
7b3o5b3o$7bo9bo$8bo5b3o$10b2o$11bo2$8b2o$3o5b2o$o6bobo$bo4b2o4b2o$3b4o
bo4bo$4b2o12b2o$8bo8b2o$7bobo7bo$7bo8b2o5$16b3o!
What I've been trying to make is a pattern that tries to "prolong its evolution" through the use of gliders.
What I need is a fusestretcher (crab is the smallest example) and a pattern that lingers around before hitting the extended boat/barge.
If I can find a pattern that lingers for 8,000 generations before hitting a barge:
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x = 2011, y = 2015, rule = B3/S23
7b3o$7bo$8bo$10b2o$11bo2$8b2o$3o5b2o$o6bobo$bo4b2o$3b4obo$4b2o$8bo$7bo
bo$8bobo$9bobo$10bobo$11bobo$12bobo$13bobo$14bobo$15bobo$16bobo$17bobo
$18bobo$19bobo$20bobo$21bobo$22bobo$23bobo$24bobo$25bobo$26bobo$27bobo
$28bobo$29bobo$30bobo$31bobo$32bobo$33bobo$34bobo$35bobo$36bobo$37bobo
$38bobo$39bobo$40bobo$41bobo$42bobo$43bobo$44bobo$45bobo$46bobo$47bobo
$48bobo$49bobo$50bobo$51bobo$52bobo$53bobo$54bobo$55bobo$56bobo$57bobo
$58bobo$59bobo$60bobo$61bobo$62bobo$63bobo$64bobo$65bobo$66bobo$67bobo
$68bobo$69bobo$70bobo$71bobo$72bobo$73bobo$74bobo$75bobo$76bobo$77bobo
$78bobo$79bobo$80bobo$81bobo$82bobo$83bobo$84bobo$85bobo$86bobo$87bobo
$88bobo$89bobo$90bobo$91bobo$92bobo$93bobo$94bobo$95bobo$96bobo$97bobo
$98bobo$99bobo$100bobo$101bobo$102bobo$103bobo$104bobo$105bobo$106bobo
$107bobo$108bobo$109bobo$110bobo$111bobo$112bobo$113bobo$114bobo$115bo
bo$116bobo$117bobo$118bobo$119bobo$120bobo$121bobo$122bobo$123bobo$
124bobo$125bobo$126bobo$127bobo$128bobo$129bobo$130bobo$131bobo$132bob
o$133bobo$134bobo$135bobo$136bobo$137bobo$138bobo$139bobo$140bobo$141b
obo$142bobo$143bobo$144bobo$145bobo$146bobo$147bobo$148bobo$149bobo$
150bobo$151bobo$152bobo$153bobo$154bobo$155bobo$156bobo$157bobo$158bob
o$159bobo$160bobo$161bobo$162bobo$163bobo$164bobo$165bobo$166bobo$167b
obo$168bobo$169bobo$170bobo$171bobo$172bobo$173bobo$174bobo$175bobo$
176bobo$177bobo$178bobo$179bobo$180bobo$181bobo$182bobo$183bobo$184bob
o$185bobo$186bobo$187bobo$188bobo$189bobo$190bobo$191bobo$192bobo$193b
obo$194bobo$195bobo$196bobo$197bobo$198bobo$199bobo$200bobo$201bobo$
202bobo$203bobo$204bobo$205bobo$206bobo$207bobo$208bobo$209bobo$210bob
o$211bobo$212bobo$213bobo$214bobo$215bobo$216bobo$217bobo$218bobo$219b
obo$220bobo$221bobo$222bobo$223bobo$224bobo$225bobo$226bobo$227bobo$
228bobo$229bobo$230bobo$231bobo$232bobo$233bobo$234bobo$235bobo$236bob
o$237bobo$238bobo$239bobo$240bobo$241bobo$242bobo$243bobo$244bobo$245b
obo$246bobo$247bobo$248bobo$249bobo$250bobo$251bobo$252bobo$253bobo$
254bobo$255bobo$256bobo$257bobo$258bobo$259bobo$260bobo$261bobo$262bob
o$263bobo$264bobo$265bobo$266bobo$267bobo$268bobo$269bobo$270bobo$271b
obo$272bobo$273bobo$274bobo$275bobo$276bobo$277bobo$278bobo$279bobo$
280bobo$281bobo$282bobo$283bobo$284bobo$285bobo$286bobo$287bobo$288bob
o$289bobo$290bobo$291bobo$292bobo$293bobo$294bobo$295bobo$296bobo$297b
obo$298bobo$299bobo$300bobo$301bobo$302bobo$303bobo$304bobo$305bobo$
306bobo$307bobo$308bobo$309bobo$310bobo$311bobo$312bobo$313bobo$314bob
o$315bobo$316bobo$317bobo$318bobo$319bobo$320bobo$321bobo$322bobo$323b
obo$324bobo$325bobo$326bobo$327bobo$328bobo$329bobo$330bobo$331bobo$
332bobo$333bobo$334bobo$335bobo$336bobo$337bobo$338bobo$339bobo$340bob
o$341bobo$342bobo$343bobo$344bobo$345bobo$346bobo$347bobo$348bobo$349b
obo$350bobo$351bobo$352bobo$353bobo$354bobo$355bobo$356bobo$357bobo$
358bobo$359bobo$360bobo$361bobo$362bobo$363bobo$364bobo$365bobo$366bob
o$367bobo$368bobo$369bobo$370bobo$371bobo$372bobo$373bobo$374bobo$375b
obo$376bobo$377bobo$378bobo$379bobo$380bobo$381bobo$382bobo$383bobo$
384bobo$385bobo$386bobo$387bobo$388bobo$389bobo$390bobo$391bobo$392bob
o$393bobo$394bobo$395bobo$396bobo$397bobo$398bobo$399bobo$400bobo$401b
obo$402bobo$403bobo$404bobo$405bobo$406bobo$407bobo$408bobo$409bobo$
410bobo$411bobo$412bobo$413bobo$414bobo$415bobo$416bobo$417bobo$418bob
o$419bobo$420bobo$421bobo$422bobo$423bobo$424bobo$425bobo$426bobo$427b
obo$428bobo$429bobo$430bobo$431bobo$432bobo$433bobo$434bobo$435bobo$
436bobo$437bobo$438bobo$439bobo$440bobo$441bobo$442bobo$443bobo$444bob
o$445bobo$446bobo$447bobo$448bobo$449bobo$450bobo$451bobo$452bobo$453b
obo$454bobo$455bobo$456bobo$457bobo$458bobo$459bobo$460bobo$461bobo$
462bobo$463bobo$464bobo$465bobo$466bobo$467bobo$468bobo$469bobo$470bob
o$471bobo$472bobo$473bobo$474bobo$475bobo$476bobo$477bobo$478bobo$479b
obo$480bobo$481bobo$482bobo$483bobo$484bobo$485bobo$486bobo$487bobo$
488bobo$489bobo$490bobo$491bobo$492bobo$493bobo$494bobo$495bobo$496bob
o$497bobo$498bobo$499bobo$500bobo$501bobo$502bobo$503bobo$504bobo$505b
obo$506bobo$507bobo$508bobo$509bobo$510bobo$511bobo$512bobo$513bobo$
514bobo$515bobo$516bobo$517bobo$518bobo$519bobo$520bobo$521bobo$522bob
o$523bobo$524bobo$525bobo$526bobo$527bobo$528bobo$529bobo$530bobo$531b
obo$532bobo$533bobo$534bobo$535bobo$536bobo$537bobo$538bobo$539bobo$
540bobo$541bobo$542bobo$543bobo$544bobo$545bobo$546bobo$547bobo$548bob
o$549bobo$550bobo$551bobo$552bobo$553bobo$554bobo$555bobo$556bobo$557b
obo$558bobo$559bobo$560bobo$561bobo$562bobo$563bobo$564bobo$565bobo$
566bobo$567bobo$568bobo$569bobo$570bobo$571bobo$572bobo$573bobo$574bob
o$575bobo$576bobo$577bobo$578bobo$579bobo$580bobo$581bobo$582bobo$583b
obo$584bobo$585bobo$586bobo$587bobo$588bobo$589bobo$590bobo$591bobo$
592bobo$593bobo$594bobo$595bobo$596bobo$597bobo$598bobo$599bobo$600bob
o$601bobo$602bobo$603bobo$604bobo$605bobo$606bobo$607bobo$608bobo$609b
obo$610bobo$611bobo$612bobo$613bobo$614bobo$615bobo$616bobo$617bobo$
618bobo$619bobo$620bobo$621bobo$622bobo$623bobo$624bobo$625bobo$626bob
o$627bobo$628bobo$629bobo$630bobo$631bobo$632bobo$633bobo$634bobo$635b
obo$636bobo$637bobo$638bobo$639bobo$640bobo$641bobo$642bobo$643bobo$
644bobo$645bobo$646bobo$647bobo$648bobo$649bobo$650bobo$651bobo$652bob
o$653bobo$654bobo$655bobo$656bobo$657bobo$658bobo$659bobo$660bobo$661b
obo$662bobo$663bobo$664bobo$665bobo$666bobo$667bobo$668bobo$669bobo$
670bobo$671bobo$672bobo$673bobo$674bobo$675bobo$676bobo$677bobo$678bob
o$679bobo$680bobo$681bobo$682bobo$683bobo$684bobo$685bobo$686bobo$687b
obo$688bobo$689bobo$690bobo$691bobo$692bobo$693bobo$694bobo$695bobo$
696bobo$697bobo$698bobo$699bobo$700bobo$701bobo$702bobo$703bobo$704bob
o$705bobo$706bobo$707bobo$708bobo$709bobo$710bobo$711bobo$712bobo$713b
obo$714bobo$715bobo$716bobo$717bobo$718bobo$719bobo$720bobo$721bobo$
722bobo$723bobo$724bobo$725bobo$726bobo$727bobo$728bobo$729bobo$730bob
o$731bobo$732bobo$733bobo$734bobo$735bobo$736bobo$737bobo$738bobo$739b
obo$740bobo$741bobo$742bobo$743bobo$744bobo$745bobo$746bobo$747bobo$
748bobo$749bobo$750bobo$751bobo$752bobo$753bobo$754bobo$755bobo$756bob
o$757bobo$758bobo$759bobo$760bobo$761bobo$762bobo$763bobo$764bobo$765b
obo$766bobo$767bobo$768bobo$769bobo$770bobo$771bobo$772bobo$773bobo$
774bobo$775bobo$776bobo$777bobo$778bobo$779bobo$780bobo$781bobo$782bob
o$783bobo$784bobo$785bobo$786bobo$787bobo$788bobo$789bobo$790bobo$791b
obo$792bobo$793bobo$794bobo$795bobo$796bobo$797bobo$798bobo$799bobo$
800bobo$801bobo$802bobo$803bobo$804bobo$805bobo$806bobo$807bobo$808bob
o$809bobo$810bobo$811bobo$812bobo$813bobo$814bobo$815bobo$816bobo$817b
obo$818bobo$819bobo$820bobo$821bobo$822bobo$823bobo$824bobo$825bobo$
826bobo$827bobo$828bobo$829bobo$830bobo$831bobo$832bobo$833bobo$834bob
o$835bobo$836bobo$837bobo$838bobo$839bobo$840bobo$841bobo$842bobo$843b
obo$844bobo$845bobo$846bobo$847bobo$848bobo$849bobo$850bobo$851bobo$
852bobo$853bobo$854bobo$855bobo$856bobo$857bobo$858bobo$859bobo$860bob
o$861bobo$862bobo$863bobo$864bobo$865bobo$866bobo$867bobo$868bobo$869b
obo$870bobo$871bobo$872bobo$873bobo$874bobo$875bobo$876bobo$877bobo$
878bobo$879bobo$880bobo$881bobo$882bobo$883bobo$884bobo$885bobo$886bob
o$887bobo$888bobo$889bobo$890bobo$891bobo$892bobo$893bobo$894bobo$895b
obo$896bobo$897bobo$898bobo$899bobo$900bobo$901bobo$902bobo$903bobo$
904bobo$905bobo$906bobo$907bobo$908bobo$909bobo$910bobo$911bobo$912bob
o$913bobo$914bobo$915bobo$916bobo$917bobo$918bobo$919bobo$920bobo$921b
obo$922bobo$923bobo$924bobo$925bobo$926bobo$927bobo$928bobo$929bobo$
930bobo$931bobo$932bobo$933bobo$934bobo$935bobo$936bobo$937bobo$938bob
o$939bobo$940bobo$941bobo$942bobo$943bobo$944bobo$945bobo$946bobo$947b
obo$948bobo$949bobo$950bobo$951bobo$952bobo$953bobo$954bobo$955bobo$
956bobo$957bobo$958bobo$959bobo$960bobo$961bobo$962bobo$963bobo$964bob
o$965bobo$966bobo$967bobo$968bobo$969bobo$970bobo$971bobo$972bobo$973b
obo$974bobo$975bobo$976bobo$977bobo$978bobo$979bobo$980bobo$981bobo$
982bobo$983bobo$984bobo$985bobo$986bobo$987bobo$988bobo$989bobo$990bob
o$991bobo$992bobo$993bobo$994bobo$995bobo$996bobo$997bobo$998bobo$999b
obo$1000bobo$1001bobo$1002bobo$1003bobo$1004bobo$1005bobo$1006bobo$
1007bobo$1008bobo$1009bobo$1010bobo$1011bobo$1012bobo$1013bobo$1014bob
o$1015bobo$1016bobo$1017bobo$1018bobo$1019bobo$1020bobo$1021bobo$1022b
obo$1023bobo$1024bobo$1025bobo$1026bobo$1027bobo$1028bobo$1029bobo$
1030bobo$1031bobo$1032bobo$1033bobo$1034bobo$1035bobo$1036bobo$1037bob
o$1038bobo$1039bobo$1040bobo$1041bobo$1042bobo$1043bobo$1044bobo$1045b
obo$1046bobo$1047bobo$1048bobo$1049bobo$1050bobo$1051bobo$1052bobo$
1053bobo$1054bobo$1055bobo$1056bobo$1057bobo$1058bobo$1059bobo$1060bob
o$1061bobo$1062bobo$1063bobo$1064bobo$1065bobo$1066bobo$1067bobo$1068b
obo$1069bobo$1070bobo$1071bobo$1072bobo$1073bobo$1074bobo$1075bobo$
1076bobo$1077bobo$1078bobo$1079bobo$1080bobo$1081bobo$1082bobo$1083bob
o$1084bobo$1085bobo$1086bobo$1087bobo$1088bobo$1089bobo$1090bobo$1091b
obo$1092bobo$1093bobo$1094bobo$1095bobo$1096bobo$1097bobo$1098bobo$
1099bobo$1100bobo$1101bobo$1102bobo$1103bobo$1104bobo$1105bobo$1106bob
o$1107bobo$1108bobo$1109bobo$1110bobo$1111bobo$1112bobo$1113bobo$1114b
obo$1115bobo$1116bobo$1117bobo$1118bobo$1119bobo$1120bobo$1121bobo$
1122bobo$1123bobo$1124bobo$1125bobo$1126bobo$1127bobo$1128bobo$1129bob
o$1130bobo$1131bobo$1132bobo$1133bobo$1134bobo$1135bobo$1136bobo$1137b
obo$1138bobo$1139bobo$1140bobo$1141bobo$1142bobo$1143bobo$1144bobo$
1145bobo$1146bobo$1147bobo$1148bobo$1149bobo$1150bobo$1151bobo$1152bob
o$1153bobo$1154bobo$1155bobo$1156bobo$1157bobo$1158bobo$1159bobo$1160b
obo$1161bobo$1162bobo$1163bobo$1164bobo$1165bobo$1166bobo$1167bobo$
1168bobo$1169bobo$1170bobo$1171bobo$1172bobo$1173bobo$1174bobo$1175bob
o$1176bobo$1177bobo$1178bobo$1179bobo$1180bobo$1181bobo$1182bobo$1183b
obo$1184bobo$1185bobo$1186bobo$1187bobo$1188bobo$1189bobo$1190bobo$
1191bobo$1192bobo$1193bobo$1194bobo$1195bobo$1196bobo$1197bobo$1198bob
o$1199bobo$1200bobo$1201bobo$1202bobo$1203bobo$1204bobo$1205bobo$1206b
obo$1207bobo$1208bobo$1209bobo$1210bobo$1211bobo$1212bobo$1213bobo$
1214bobo$1215bobo$1216bobo$1217bobo$1218bobo$1219bobo$1220bobo$1221bob
o$1222bobo$1223bobo$1224bobo$1225bobo$1226bobo$1227bobo$1228bobo$1229b
obo$1230bobo$1231bobo$1232bobo$1233bobo$1234bobo$1235bobo$1236bobo$
1237bobo$1238bobo$1239bobo$1240bobo$1241bobo$1242bobo$1243bobo$1244bob
o$1245bobo$1246bobo$1247bobo$1248bobo$1249bobo$1250bobo$1251bobo$1252b
obo$1253bobo$1254bobo$1255bobo$1256bobo$1257bobo$1258bobo$1259bobo$
1260bobo$1261bobo$1262bobo$1263bobo$1264bobo$1265bobo$1266bobo$1267bob
o$1268bobo$1269bobo$1270bobo$1271bobo$1272bobo$1273bobo$1274bobo$1275b
obo$1276bobo$1277bobo$1278bobo$1279bobo$1280bobo$1281bobo$1282bobo$
1283bobo$1284bobo$1285bobo$1286bobo$1287bobo$1288bobo$1289bobo$1290bob
o$1291bobo$1292bobo$1293bobo$1294bobo$1295bobo$1296bobo$1297bobo$1298b
obo$1299bobo$1300bobo$1301bobo$1302bobo$1303bobo$1304bobo$1305bobo$
1306bobo$1307bobo$1308bobo$1309bobo$1310bobo$1311bobo$1312bobo$1313bob
o$1314bobo$1315bobo$1316bobo$1317bobo$1318bobo$1319bobo$1320bobo$1321b
obo$1322bobo$1323bobo$1324bobo$1325bobo$1326bobo$1327bobo$1328bobo$
1329bobo$1330bobo$1331bobo$1332bobo$1333bobo$1334bobo$1335bobo$1336bob
o$1337bobo$1338bobo$1339bobo$1340bobo$1341bobo$1342bobo$1343bobo$1344b
obo$1345bobo$1346bobo$1347bobo$1348bobo$1349bobo$1350bobo$1351bobo$
1352bobo$1353bobo$1354bobo$1355bobo$1356bobo$1357bobo$1358bobo$1359bob
o$1360bobo$1361bobo$1362bobo$1363bobo$1364bobo$1365bobo$1366bobo$1367b
obo$1368bobo$1369bobo$1370bobo$1371bobo$1372bobo$1373bobo$1374bobo$
1375bobo$1376bobo$1377bobo$1378bobo$1379bobo$1380bobo$1381bobo$1382bob
o$1383bobo$1384bobo$1385bobo$1386bobo$1387bobo$1388bobo$1389bobo$1390b
obo$1391bobo$1392bobo$1393bobo$1394bobo$1395bobo$1396bobo$1397bobo$
1398bobo$1399bobo$1400bobo$1401bobo$1402bobo$1403bobo$1404bobo$1405bob
o$1406bobo$1407bobo$1408bobo$1409bobo$1410bobo$1411bobo$1412bobo$1413b
obo$1414bobo$1415bobo$1416bobo$1417bobo$1418bobo$1419bobo$1420bobo$
1421bobo$1422bobo$1423bobo$1424bobo$1425bobo$1426bobo$1427bobo$1428bob
o$1429bobo$1430bobo$1431bobo$1432bobo$1433bobo$1434bobo$1435bobo$1436b
obo$1437bobo$1438bobo$1439bobo$1440bobo$1441bobo$1442bobo$1443bobo$
1444bobo$1445bobo$1446bobo$1447bobo$1448bobo$1449bobo$1450bobo$1451bob
o$1452bobo$1453bobo$1454bobo$1455bobo$1456bobo$1457bobo$1458bobo$1459b
obo$1460bobo$1461bobo$1462bobo$1463bobo$1464bobo$1465bobo$1466bobo$
1467bobo$1468bobo$1469bobo$1470bobo$1471bobo$1472bobo$1473bobo$1474bob
o$1475bobo$1476bobo$1477bobo$1478bobo$1479bobo$1480bobo$1481bobo$1482b
obo$1483bobo$1484bobo$1485bobo$1486bobo$1487bobo$1488bobo$1489bobo$
1490bobo$1491bobo$1492bobo$1493bobo$1494bobo$1495bobo$1496bobo$1497bob
o$1498bobo$1499bobo$1500bobo$1501bobo$1502bobo$1503bobo$1504bobo$1505b
obo$1506bobo$1507bobo$1508bobo$1509bobo$1510bobo$1511bobo$1512bobo$
1513bobo$1514bobo$1515bobo$1516bobo$1517bobo$1518bobo$1519bobo$1520bob
o$1521bobo$1522bobo$1523bobo$1524bobo$1525bobo$1526bobo$1527bobo$1528b
obo$1529bobo$1530bobo$1531bobo$1532bobo$1533bobo$1534bobo$1535bobo$
1536bobo$1537bobo$1538bobo$1539bobo$1540bobo$1541bobo$1542bobo$1543bob
o$1544bobo$1545bobo$1546bobo$1547bobo$1548bobo$1549bobo$1550bobo$1551b
obo$1552bobo$1553bobo$1554bobo$1555bobo$1556bobo$1557bobo$1558bobo$
1559bobo$1560bobo$1561bobo$1562bobo$1563bobo$1564bobo$1565bobo$1566bob
o$1567bobo$1568bobo$1569bobo$1570bobo$1571bobo$1572bobo$1573bobo$1574b
obo$1575bobo$1576bobo$1577bobo$1578bobo$1579bobo$1580bobo$1581bobo$
1582bobo$1583bobo$1584bobo$1585bobo$1586bobo$1587bobo$1588bobo$1589bob
o$1590bobo$1591bobo$1592bobo$1593bobo$1594bobo$1595bobo$1596bobo$1597b
obo$1598bobo$1599bobo$1600bobo$1601bobo$1602bobo$1603bobo$1604bobo$
1605bobo$1606bobo$1607bobo$1608bobo$1609bobo$1610bobo$1611bobo$1612bob
o$1613bobo$1614bobo$1615bobo$1616bobo$1617bobo$1618bobo$1619bobo$1620b
obo$1621bobo$1622bobo$1623bobo$1624bobo$1625bobo$1626bobo$1627bobo$
1628bobo$1629bobo$1630bobo$1631bobo$1632bobo$1633bobo$1634bobo$1635bob
o$1636bobo$1637bobo$1638bobo$1639bobo$1640bobo$1641bobo$1642bobo$1643b
obo$1644bobo$1645bobo$1646bobo$1647bobo$1648bobo$1649bobo$1650bobo$
1651bobo$1652bobo$1653bobo$1654bobo$1655bobo$1656bobo$1657bobo$1658bob
o$1659bobo$1660bobo$1661bobo$1662bobo$1663bobo$1664bobo$1665bobo$1666b
obo$1667bobo$1668bobo$1669bobo$1670bobo$1671bobo$1672bobo$1673bobo$
1674bobo$1675bobo$1676bobo$1677bobo$1678bobo$1679bobo$1680bobo$1681bob
o$1682bobo$1683bobo$1684bobo$1685bobo$1686bobo$1687bobo$1688bobo$1689b
obo$1690bobo$1691bobo$1692bobo$1693bobo$1694bobo$1695bobo$1696bobo$
1697bobo$1698bobo$1699bobo$1700bobo$1701bobo$1702bobo$1703bobo$1704bob
o$1705bobo$1706bobo$1707bobo$1708bobo$1709bobo$1710bobo$1711bobo$1712b
obo$1713bobo$1714bobo$1715bobo$1716bobo$1717bobo$1718bobo$1719bobo$
1720bobo$1721bobo$1722bobo$1723bobo$1724bobo$1725bobo$1726bobo$1727bob
o$1728bobo$1729bobo$1730bobo$1731bobo$1732bobo$1733bobo$1734bobo$1735b
obo$1736bobo$1737bobo$1738bobo$1739bobo$1740bobo$1741bobo$1742bobo$
1743bobo$1744bobo$1745bobo$1746bobo$1747bobo$1748bobo$1749bobo$1750bob
o$1751bobo$1752bobo$1753bobo$1754bobo$1755bobo$1756bobo$1757bobo$1758b
obo$1759bobo$1760bobo$1761bobo$1762bobo$1763bobo$1764bobo$1765bobo$
1766bobo$1767bobo$1768bobo$1769bobo$1770bobo$1771bobo$1772bobo$1773bob
o$1774bobo$1775bobo$1776bobo$1777bobo$1778bobo$1779bobo$1780bobo$1781b
obo$1782bobo$1783bobo$1784bobo$1785bobo$1786bobo$1787bobo$1788bobo$
1789bobo$1790bobo$1791bobo$1792bobo$1793bobo$1794bobo$1795bobo$1796bob
o$1797bobo$1798bobo$1799bobo$1800bobo$1801bobo$1802bobo$1803bobo$1804b
obo$1805bobo$1806bobo$1807bobo$1808bobo$1809bobo$1810bobo$1811bobo$
1812bobo$1813bobo$1814bobo$1815bobo$1816bobo$1817bobo$1818bobo$1819bob
o$1820bobo$1821bobo$1822bobo$1823bobo$1824bobo$1825bobo$1826bobo$1827b
obo$1828bobo$1829bobo$1830bobo$1831bobo$1832bobo$1833bobo$1834bobo$
1835bobo$1836bobo$1837bobo$1838bobo$1839bobo$1840bobo$1841bobo$1842bob
o$1843bobo$1844bobo$1845bobo$1846bobo$1847bobo$1848bobo$1849bobo$1850b
obo$1851bobo$1852bobo$1853bobo$1854bobo$1855bobo$1856bobo$1857bobo$
1858bobo$1859bobo$1860bobo$1861bobo$1862bobo$1863bobo$1864bobo$1865bob
o$1866bobo$1867bobo$1868bobo$1869bobo$1870bobo$1871bobo$1872bobo$1873b
obo$1874bobo$1875bobo$1876bobo$1877bobo$1878bobo$1879bobo$1880bobo$
1881bobo$1882bobo$1883bobo$1884bobo$1885bobo$1886bobo$1887bobo$1888bob
o$1889bobo$1890bobo$1891bobo$1892bobo$1893bobo$1894bobo$1895bobo$1896b
obo$1897bobo$1898bobo$1899bobo$1900bobo$1901bobo$1902bobo$1903bobo$
1904bobo$1905bobo$1906bobo$1907bobo$1908bobo$1909bobo$1910bobo$1911bob
o$1912bobo$1913bobo$1914bobo$1915bobo$1916bobo$1917bobo$1918bobo$1919b
obo$1920bobo$1921bobo$1922bobo$1923bobo$1924bobo$1925bobo$1926bobo$
1927bobo$1928bobo$1929bobo$1930bobo$1931bobo$1932bobo$1933bobo$1934bob
o$1935bobo$1936bobo$1937bobo$1938bobo$1939bobo$1940bobo$1941bobo$1942b
obo$1943bobo$1944bobo$1945bobo$1946bobo$1947bobo$1948bobo$1949bobo$
1950bobo$1951bobo$1952bobo$1953bobo$1954bobo$1955bobo$1956bobo$1957bob
o$1958bobo$1959bobo$1960bobo$1961bobo$1962bobo$1963bobo$1964bobo$1965b
obo$1966bobo$1967bobo$1968bobo$1969bobo$1970bobo$1971bobo$1972bobo$
1973bobo$1974bobo$1975bobo$1976bobo$1977bobo$1978bobo$1979bobo$1980bob
o$1981bobo$1982bobo$1983bobo$1984bobo$1985bobo$1986bobo$1987bobo$1988b
obo$1989bobo$1990bobo$1991bobo$1992bobo$1993bobo$1994bobo$1995bobo$
1996bobo$1997bobo$1998bobo$1999bobo$2000bobo$2001bobo4bo$2002bobo3bobo
$2003bobo2b2o$2004bobo$2005bobo$2006bobo$2007bobo$2008bo!
Then the methuselah could take 20,000 generations or more depending on the amount of gliders that travel and hit the ash.
The longest-lasting methuselah would have a glider go through some kind of wide temporary loop where it travels for a long amount of generations before getting destroyed:
Code: Select all
x = 370, y = 384, rule = B3/S23
8b2o$8b2o4$2b2o$bobo$obo$bo7$6b2o$6bobo$6bo363$368bo$367bobo$366bobo$
366b2o!
Re: Long-lived methuselahs
Posted: April 10th, 2024, 12:38 pm
by confocaloid
C_R_116 wrote: April 10th, 2024, 12:32 pm[...]
I've been trying to make methuselahs that try to continue evolving NOT based on pure random chaos:
[...]
Another relevant forum thread is
(Engineered) diehards. You can always add a noninteracting block to any engineered diehard, to turn it into an engineered methuselah.
Re: Long-lived methuselahs
Posted: July 20th, 2024, 5:28 pm
by otismo
This is an interesting Methuselah - Fun to play with - may revive enthusiasm
d/dx wrote: June 8th, 2024, 4:45 pm
from a personal apgsearch
Code:
Select all
x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
2b3o4b2o2b2o$3obo2bo5bobo$b3ob4o4b2o$6bob2obo2bo$ob2o2b3o5bo$bo2bo4bo
3b3o$bobob2ob3obob2o$5bo2b2ob5o$2obo2b3ob2o3bo$b2o3bobob3o$o2bobob2obo
$o2bobo2bo4b2o$4bo2b2o3bobo$2bo7bobobo$4bo2b3obob3o$3obo2b2o3b2o!
"temporary gem"
it has 4 rare objects, that quickly get absorbed, but it ends with a surprise
This is a
Genuine Methuselah Soup, 7060gens- Thank You for posting !
Also, it really is full, and I mean chock full, of so many surprises you will want to watch it again !
( need to make a list of all the goodies )
This one may be the best I have ever seen -
since it makes so many things, it is full of
INFO
so it is worth playing with, perturbing, etc.
BTW -
from your soup, a new Pulsar
FireCloud
Code: Select all
x = 12, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
2o$o3$4b2o$3b2o$4bobo$5b2o3b2o$10bo2$3b2o$2b3o2b2o$2ob2obob2o$o3bo4bo$
b2obob3o$b2ob4o2$10b2o$10bo!
EDIT :
The List :
261gens MWSS
1226gens Pulsar
1589gens "Double Mango"
1624gens Third Mango appears, stays alive for 12gens
2570gens Queen Bee
3815gens LWSS
4894gens Still Life
5541gens BarberPole
Re: Long-lived methuselahs
Posted: August 2nd, 2025, 7:41 am
by rabbit
testitemqlstudop wrote: March 23rd, 2019, 11:39 pm
21655 gen methuselah with nearly record-breaking F/I - rank #2, after simek's 24827M.
Pi + dove (is it a dove) + LOM predecessor = huge explosion, F/I is 274
Code: Select all
x = 21, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
13b2o$13bo2bo$14bobo$14b3o$b2o$2o$bo$2bo2$20bo2$16b5o$17b3o$18bo!
Found with hacked apgsearch that does 10x10 soups and also catagolues f/i.
Census: b3s23/10x10
I'm only getting an F/I of 200.76 (5019/25) for this pattern.
Regardless, here is a one generation precursor that is only 22 cells, with a resulting F/I of ~228.14 (5019/22):
Code: Select all
x = 21, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
12b2o$12bo2bo$13b3o$14bo$2o$o$o$bo$18b2o2$14bo5bo$15bo3bo$16b3o!
This would put it at number 9 on the current "
list of long-lived methuselahs" standings by that metric.
EDIT: 20-cell equivalent:
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x = 24, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
12b2o$12bo2bo$13b3o$14bo$2o$o$o$bo2$19bo$19bo2bo$19b2ob2o!
F/I = 5019/20 = 250.95
Re: Long-lived methuselahs
Posted: September 16th, 2025, 8:45 am
by otismo
Code: Select all
x = 20, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
5bo$5b2o$6bo5b2o$10bobo$8b2o3$3b2o$3bo2$2o12b3o$o12bo3b2o$14bo4bo$6bo
7bo4bo$5b3o8b3o$b2ob4o2$2bobo$3bo!
M52492-42cells-19X20bb-from-soup
Cheers !
Re: Long-lived methuselahs
Posted: October 1st, 2026, 3:42 am
by otismo
Well Well Well - what can I coax out of a five-by-five -
yes, this is my Anomaly - how about 17,319 generations
but I needed eleven cells to do it. Well, see for yourself !
Code: Select all
x = 5, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
2bobo$o3bo$b2obo$o$2o2bo!
I know it is uncommon to get such longevity from such a tiny space;
I suppose I am somehow trying to attract it. I think I will call this my
Welsh RareBit (yes, a tasty morsel - honoring Conway).
EDIT : This is a situation similar to Bcorn (below) -
I found an
altORIGIMORPH of gen2
of my
Welsh RareBit
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x = 6, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
5bo2$o2b3o$b2o$2o$bo!
10cells; 6X6bb
Cheers !
<3
Re: Long-lived methuselahs
Posted: October 1st, 2026, 5:06 am
by otismo
Adding one more cell gives me one less generation - that's odd . . .
Code: Select all
x = 5, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$bob2o$b2obo$2o$o3bo!
Adding two more cells - only slightly better - 17,466gens
Code: Select all
x = 5, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
2b2o$o$2b3o$3obo$o2b2o!
<3
Re: Long-lived methuselahs
Posted: October 1st, 2026, 8:22 pm
by otismo
Introducing the Bcorn
alt origimorph but identical in second generation to
Acorn.
Code: Select all
x = 67, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
o60bo$o2bo59bo$o2b2o55b2o2b3o2$2bobo!
This one almost catches the Acorn
11cells; 4X4bb; 4616gens
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x = 4, y = 4, rule = B3/S23
3bo$4o$2obo$3o!
might be one to play with - have fun !
<3