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Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: April 21st, 2018, 8:08 am
by KittyTac
Saka wrote:c/4o in a rule without B1e, B2a, or survival

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x = 14, y = 14, rule = B2-an3-cery4city5kqry6-ck7c8/S
11bo2$7b2obo2bo$9bobo$8b3o2bo$7bo4bo$5ob6o$6bo5bo$3bo2bobo$bo2b2obobo
2b2o$bo3bo$6b2o3bo$3bo6bo$8bo!
Found with LLS in about 28 minutes (Exact time 1668.37912083 seconds)
The rule is not explosive too so we can apgluxe it although the ship won't be appearing anytime soon I think
I call it "Dove".

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: April 21st, 2018, 8:11 am
by 77topaz
Nice find! And yeah, that ship looks too big and fragile to be anything but extremely rare naturally.

The same rule also has this c/5 diagonal ship (different from AbhpzTa's one):

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x = 6, y = 6, rule = B2-an3-cery4city5kqry6-ck7c8/S
3bobo$3bo$4bo$2obo$2bo$o!

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: April 21st, 2018, 11:32 am
by AforAmpere
C/5 wickstretcher (unstabilized) in that rule:

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x = 18, y = 401, rule = B2-an3-cery4city5kqry6-ck7c8/S
7bo2bo$2bo2bobo2bobo2bo$6bob2obo$o2b2o8b2o2bo$bo5b4o5bo$b3o3bo2bo3b3o$
4bo3b2o3bo$2bo3bo4bo3bo$4bo3b2o3bo$7bo2bo$4bo8bo2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$
2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b
3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o
2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b
5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o
2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$
2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b
3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o
2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b
5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o
2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$
2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b
3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o
2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b
5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o
2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$
2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b
3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o
2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b
5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o
2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$
2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b
3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o
2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b
5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o
2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$
2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b
3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o2$2b5o4b5o2$3b3o6b3o2$b7o2b7o!
EDIT, and an actual C/5:

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x = 20, y = 64, rule = B2-an3-cery4city5kqry6-ck7c8/S
8bo2bo$3bo2bobo2bobo2bo$7bob2obo$bo2b2o8b2o2bo$2bo5b4o5bo$2b3o3bo2bo3b
3o$5bo3b2o3bo$3bo3bo4bo3bo$5bo3b2o3bo$8bo2bo$5bo8bo2$4b3o6b3o2$2o2b4o
4b4o2b2o$3bobobo4bobobo$2bo14bo$8bo2bo$4bo3bo2bo3bo$5bo8bo$3b3obo4bob
3o2$3b2o2bo4bo2b2o$6bo6bo$5bo2b4o2bo$8bo2bo$9b2o$2b5ob4ob5o2$9b2o$2bo
14bo$7b6o$b5o8b5o$9b2o$3o14b3o$4bo10bo$2b2obo8bob2o$5bobob2obobo2$8bo
2bo$2b3o4b2o4b3o$8bo2bo$5bo8bo2$3b3o8b3o$2bo14bo$2bob3o6b3obo$6bobo2bo
bo$3b2o3bo2bo3b2o$6bo6bo$9b2o$6bo6bo2$4bo4b2o4bo$3b2o4b2o4b2o$3bo2b3o
2b3o2bo$3bo2bo2b2o2bo2bo$6b2o4b2o$3bob2o2b2o2b2obo$3b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o$7b
o4bo$4b2o8b2o$7bo4bo$5bo8bo!
EDIT 2, a C/6:

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x = 11, y = 24, rule = B2-an3-cery4city5kqry6-ck7c8/S
5bo$5bo$2bob3obo$bo3bo3bo$3o2bo2b3o$o4bo4bo$2bo5bo2$3bo3bo$5bo2$4bobo$
4bobo2$4bobo$2bo5bo$2b2o3b2o$o9bo$3b2ob2o$3bobobo$3bobobo$5bo$5bo$5bo!
EDIT 3, a C/7:

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x = 12, y = 12, rule = B2-an3-cery4city5kqry6-ck7c8/S
o10bo$o10bo$o10bo$2bo6bo$ob3o2b3obo$bobo4bobo3$5b2o$o2b6o2bo2$3ob4ob3o
!

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: April 21st, 2018, 5:50 pm
by 77topaz
Wow, I'm surprised at all the different spaceships with different speeds that rule supports, despite all its constraints. :)

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: April 21st, 2018, 6:20 pm
by wwei23
AforAmpere wrote:
EDIT 3, a C/7:

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x = 12, y = 12, rule = B2-an3-cery4city5kqry6-ck7c8/S
o10bo$o10bo$o10bo$2bo6bo$ob3o2b3obo$bobo4bobo3$5b2o$o2b6o2bo2$3ob4ob3o
!
Looks like the weekender when it moves.

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: April 26th, 2018, 4:57 pm
by velcrorex
c/13 orthogonal, B34578/S0567, found with zfind

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x = 10, y = 73, rule = B34578/S0567
3b4o2$2bob2obo$2b6o$b3o2b3o$2b2o2b2o$2b6o$b8o$3b4o$2bo4bo$2b6o3$o8bo$
2bob2obo2$2b2o2b2o$3bo2bo$2b2o2b2o2$b2ob2ob2o2$bo6bo2$b2o4b2o2$2b2o2b
2o$bo6bo$2b2o2b2o2$3b4o$2bo4bo$2b6o2$2b6o2$3b4o$3bo2bo2$b2o4b2o2$bob4o
bo2$b8o2$2b6o2$3b4o2$3b4o2$3b4o$2bo4bo$2b2o2b2o$4b2o$2bo4bo$2b2o2b2o2$
2bo4bo2$2bo4bo2$2bo4bo$2o6b2o$2b6o$2o6b2o4$3bo2bo$4b2o$bob4obo$3bo2bo!

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: April 27th, 2018, 8:46 pm
by AforAmpere
velcrorex wrote:c/13 orthogonal, B34578/S0567
New C/5 in that rule:

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x = 13, y = 26, rule = B34578/S0567
6bo$3b2o3b2o$5b3o$bobobobobobo$3b2obob2o$bobob3obobo$2b2o5b2o$4b2ob2o$
2bob2ob2obo$5b3o$o3b5o3bo$4b5o$13o$2bob5obo$ob2o2bo2b2obo$bobob3obobo$
obo3bo3bobo$bobob3obobo$obo3bo3bobo$2b4ob4o$b5ob5o$3ob2ob2ob3o$3b3ob3o
$b2obobobob2o$obob2ob2obobo$bo9bo!

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: April 28th, 2018, 12:26 am
by Saka
Rule with cool adjustable wickstretchers

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x = 65, y = 14, rule = B2-ak3aej4ai5ai78/S2-cn3aeir4air5ai6ac78
4bo12bo31bo$10o4b16o4b31o$o8bo4bo14bo4bo29bo$ob6obo4bob12obo4bob27obo$
ob6obo4bob12obo4bob27obo$ob6obo4bob12obo4bob27obo$ob6obo4bob12obo4bob
27obo$ob6obo4bob12obo4bob27obo$ob6obo4bob12obo4bob27obo$ob6obo4bob12ob
o4bob27obo$ob6obo4bob12obo4bob27obo$o8bo4bo14bo4bo29bo$10o4b16o4b31o$
22bo15bo!

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: April 28th, 2018, 1:01 am
by blah
Saka wrote:Rule with cool adjustable wickstretchers

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x = 65, y = 14, rule = B2-ak3aej4ai5ai78/S2-cn3aeir4air5ai6ac78
4bo12bo31bo$10o4b16o4b31o$o8bo4bo14bo4bo29bo$ob6obo4bob12obo4bob27obo$
ob6obo4bob12obo4bob27obo$ob6obo4bob12obo4bob27obo$ob6obo4bob12obo4bob
27obo$ob6obo4bob12obo4bob27obo$ob6obo4bob12obo4bob27obo$ob6obo4bob12ob
o4bob27obo$ob6obo4bob12obo4bob27obo$o8bo4bo14bo4bo29bo$10o4b16o4b31o$
22bo15bo!
This reminds me of an idea I had in this thread. If you can find an equivalent "wave" that erodes the wick, instead of expanding it, then you could create an arbitrarily slow (and arbitary slope) spaceship.

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: April 28th, 2018, 1:06 am
by Saka
blah wrote: This reminds me of an idea I had in this thread. If you can find an equivalent "wave" that erodes the wick, instead of expanding it, then you could create an arbitrarily slow (and arbitary slope) spaceship.
this also exists too

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: April 28th, 2018, 8:45 am
by AforAmpere
C/19 diagonal SMOS, but in a B2a rule:

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x = 7, y = 7, rule = B2-ce3cejq4ciknwz5cr6ekn/S1c2cen3ace4iy5a6e
bo$obo3$5bo$6bo$5bo!

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: May 1st, 2018, 1:22 am
by LaundryPizza03
Superluminal propagation at the edge of a checkerboard (the corners advance inward at 2c):

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x = 47, y = 47, rule = B2ak/S4c
23bo$22bobo$21bobobo$20bobobobo$19bobobobobo$18bobobobobobo$17bobobobo
bobobo$16bobobobobobobobo$o14bobobobobobobobobo$2bo11bobobobobobobobob
obo$2bo10bobobobobobobobobobobo$o11bobobobobobobobobobobobo$11bobobobo
bobobobobobobobobo$10bobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$9bobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobo$8bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$7bobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobo$6bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$5bobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobo$4bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$3bobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobo$bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobo$2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$3bobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$4bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobo$5bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$6bobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobo$7bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$8bobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobo$9bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$10bobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobo$11bobobobobobobobobobobobobo$12bobobobobobobobobobobobo$13bobob
obobobobobobobobo$14bobobobobobobobobobo$15bobobobobobobobobo$16bobobo
bobobobobo$17bobobobobobobo$18bobobobobobo$19bobobobobo$20bobobobo$21b
obobo$22bobo$23bo!

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: May 1st, 2018, 3:09 am
by 77topaz
Considering its destructive, one-way nature, I don't think that counts as propagation (superluminal propagation has been proven impossible in Moore-neighbourhood CA, after all).

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: May 1st, 2018, 3:29 am
by LaundryPizza03
Then what would you call this effect?

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: May 1st, 2018, 4:11 am
by 77topaz
For a physical analogue, I suppose it is somewhat similar to the way a shadow can appear to move faster than light as it does not convey information from one shadowed object to another (only from the light source to the object). However, that doesn't really give a one-word name like "propagation".

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: May 1st, 2018, 9:17 am
by wwei23
Superluminal antipropogation?

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: May 1st, 2018, 9:50 am
by Majestas32
666th reply!

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: May 2nd, 2018, 7:20 am
by LaundryPizza03

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x = 14, y = 2, rule = B2c3an4ar/S12ik3ejnr4i
o7bo4bo$b12o!

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: May 2nd, 2018, 3:38 pm
by LaundryPizza03
180° reflector for spaceships of arbitrary length:

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x = 98, y = 98, rule = B012c3n78/S01
43b2o$43b2o26$46bo2$45b2o2$45b2o2$45b2o2$45b2o2$45b2o6$96b2o$96b2o$60b
obo$60bobobo2$48b2o$48b2o2$19bobobobobobobobobobo$21bobobobobobobobobo
$2o$2o6$51b2o2$51bo34$53b2o$53b2o!

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: May 2nd, 2018, 4:18 pm
by Macbi
LaundryPizza03 wrote:180° reflector for spaceships of arbitrary length:

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x = 98, y = 98, rule = B012c3n78/S01
43b2o$43b2o26$46bo2$45b2o2$45b2o2$45b2o2$45b2o2$45b2o6$96b2o$96b2o$60b
obo$60bobobo2$48b2o$48b2o2$19bobobobobobobobobobo$21bobobobobobobobobo
$2o$2o6$51b2o2$51bo34$53b2o$53b2o!
That's like magic.

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: May 2nd, 2018, 5:10 pm
by BlinkerSpawn
LaundryPizza03 wrote:180° reflector for spaceships of arbitrary length:

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x = 98, y = 98, rule = B012c3n78/S01
43b2o$43b2o26$46bo2$45b2o2$45b2o2$45b2o2$45b2o2$45b2o6$96b2o$96b2o$60b
obo$60bobobo2$48b2o$48b2o2$19bobobobobobobobobobo$21bobobobobobobobobo
$2o$2o6$51b2o2$51bo34$53b2o$53b2o!
Non-B0 version, minimum ship length (for now):

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x = 14, y = 6, rule = B2akn3r4i/S345
12bo$2bobo6b3o$obobo7bo$11bo$10b3o$11bo!

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: May 2nd, 2018, 6:42 pm
by LaundryPizza03
B0123-aijn4-kt5-a6ae8/S013ai4-an5 has both phases of the glider as well as abundant c/2 pseudo-spaceships, some of which split or change direction in-flight. Below is a 42c/84 from this rule:

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x = 51, y = 19, rule = B0123-aijn4-kt5-a6ae8/S013ai4-an5
27bobo$22bob2o2b3o$3o19b3ob4obo$3o20b10o10b3o$bo12bo8bob6o2b2o7bobobo$
4bo9bo10b10o6bob4o$ob3obo6bo8b13o6b2ob2obo$b3o7b4o8bob10o7bob3ob2o$obo
b2o4bobo7bob3ob8o5bo3b6obo$2o6b2o2bo10bo2b7o3bo3b11o$obob2o4bobo7bob3o
b8o5bo3b6obo$b3o7b4o8bob10o7bob3ob2o$ob3obo6bo8b13o6b2ob2obo$4bo9bo10b
10o6bob4o$bo12bo8bob6o2b2o7bobobo$3o20b10o10b3o$3o19b3ob4obo$22bob2o2b
3o$27bobo!
Unlike Day and Night, it has abundant small spaceships (the aforementioned phases of the glider) but very few stationary objects.

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: May 8th, 2018, 12:17 pm
by velcrorex
Cute c/5 in B2/S0456

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x = 11, y = 11, rule = B2/S0456
bo7bo3$4bobo$bo7bo$2bo5bo$3bo3bo$4b3o$3bobobo$2bob3obo$o9bo!

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: May 10th, 2018, 3:31 am
by KittyTac

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x = 6, y = 6, rule = R2,C3,M0,S4..4,B4..4,NM
3.A$3.B$A3B.A$.3B.A$3.B$.3A!

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x = 31, y = 29, rule = R2,C3,M0,S4..4,B4..4,NM
8$6.2A$4.A4.A3.2B$4.A4BA$4.B.3BA$12.B7.B2A$4.A6.2A7.AB2A$5.ABAB4A9.B
2A$6.2B2.B.B4.2B6.B$3.B12.A2.B.A3.3A$3.B12.A2.B.A3.3A$6.2B2.B.B4.2B6.
B$5.ABAB4A9.B2A$4.A6.2A7.AB2A$12.B7.B2A$4.B.3BA$4.A4BA$4.A4.A3.2B$6.
2A!

Re: Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata

Posted: May 10th, 2018, 8:40 am
by BlinkerSpawn
KittyTac wrote:

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x = 31, y = 29, rule = R2,C3,M0,S4..4,B4..4,NM
8$6.2A$4.A4.A3.2B$4.A4BA$4.B.3BA$12.B7.B2A$4.A6.2A7.AB2A$5.ABAB4A9.B
2A$6.2B2.B.B4.2B6.B$3.B12.A2.B.A3.3A$3.B12.A2.B.A3.3A$6.2B2.B.B4.2B6.
B$5.ABAB4A9.B2A$4.A6.2A7.AB2A$12.B7.B2A$4.B.3BA$4.A4BA$4.A4.A3.2B$6.
2A!

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x = 19, y = 30, rule = R2,C3,M0,S4..4,B4..4,NM
.B.B2$B6.B2$B$10.B$4.B5.2AB$5.2AB4.3A$5.2AB4.3A$4.B5.2AB$10.B$B2$B6.B
2$.B.B9$6.A2.2A.B.B$5.2A2B6.AB$4.AB3.2B.A3.3A$4.AB3.2B.A3.3A$5.2A2B6.
AB$6.A2.2A.B.B!