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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: May 19th, 2019, 10:30 am
by praosylen
The page for the Schick Engine lists two C1 soups, but both links point to the same soup (the original one). Meanwhile, the xq12 tabulation lists only one occurrence, as expected.

Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: May 20th, 2019, 7:29 am
by testitemqlstudop
That's because of me, I tested catagolue evilly for a hypthetical bug and resubmitted the Schick engine haul but with a different seed root. It was promptly fixed by calcyman

Source: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3061&start=200#p74935

Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: June 12th, 2019, 3:39 pm
by Ian07
A 12G synthesis for xs17_8p7gs26z23 was submitted to Catagolue and according to this job log was processed correctly:

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x = 180, y = 61, rule = B3/S23
115bo$114bo$114b3o$54bo$55b2o$54b2o$135bo$135bobo$135b2o12$78bo$76bobo
$77b2o9$4bo$3bo$3b3o$bo$2bo$3o78b2o$81b2o90b2o$174bo$89b2o83bob2o$85b
2o2bobo81b2o2bo$84bobo2bo85bobobo$86bo88bo2b2o$170b3ob2o3$164b3o$105b
2o59bo$24b2o78bo2bo57bo$23bobo79b2o$25bo$27b2o145bo$27bobo144bo$27bo
146bo2$170b3o3$172b3o$172bo$173bo!
Despite this, the object page still has an obsolete 33G synthesis:

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#C [[ GRID MAXGRIDSIZE 14 THEME Catagolue ]]
#CSYNTH xs17_8p7gs26z23 costs 33 gliders (true).
#CLL state-numbering golly
x = 254, y = 41, rule = B3/S23
86bobo$86b2o$87bo$95bo149bo$95bobo145bobo$95b2o147b2o5bobo$239bobo
9b2o$152bo87b2o10bo$150b2o88bo$151b2o$253bo$24bo226b2o$23bo63bo10b
o39b2o46b2o48b2o14b2o$23b3o60bobo8bo41bo2bo9b3o32bo2bo46bo2bo$86bo
bo8b3o39bobobo8bo34bobobo45bobobo$77b3o4b2o2b2o47b2o2b2o10bo31b2o
2bobo43b2o2bobo$79bo3bobobo48bobobo45bobobo45bobobo5b2o$78bo5bo2bo
7b2o40bo2bo9b2o34bobo7bo39bobo6bobo$28bobo56b2o6bobo42b2o7b2o34b2o
b2o6b2o3b2o32b2ob2o5b2o$28b2o65bo55bo43bobo3bobo47b2o$29bo106b2o
63bo49bobo$132bo3bobo112bo$130bobo3bo$23b2o106b2o65b3o$22b2o64b2o
110bo33b3o13b2o$12bo11bo64b2o108bo36bo13bobo$13b2o73bo146bo3b2o9bo
$12b2o12bo212bobo$25b2o212bo$25bobo2$13b3o$15bo29bo$14bo3b2o24b2o$
3o16b2o23bobo$2bo15bo$bo20b3o$24bo$23bo6b2o$29b2o$31bo!

Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: June 13th, 2019, 5:19 pm
by praosylen

Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: June 13th, 2019, 6:47 pm
by Moosey
Doublespam; one person is searching it too much with minimal-size hauls every 30 seconds, and the other has a spammy name.

Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: June 13th, 2019, 11:34 pm
by testitemqlstudop
The long name is me, I wanted to test how long the names can get

EDIT: look at it again

Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: June 14th, 2019, 7:33 am
by Moosey
testitemqlstudop wrote:The long name is me, I wanted to test how long the names can get

EDIT: look at it again
Alright, but next time make the long name less spammy

Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: June 19th, 2019, 4:35 am
by testitemqlstudop

Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: June 19th, 2019, 1:59 pm
by Ian07
Someone's trolling again: https://catagolue.appspot.com/census

Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: June 19th, 2019, 2:02 pm
by Moosey
Ian07 wrote:Someone's trolling again: https://catagolue.appspot.com/census
How did testitem even manage to upload a quadrillion objects?

Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: June 19th, 2019, 5:58 pm
by apg
Ian07 wrote:Someone's trolling again: https://catagolue.appspot.com/census
Fixed in commit b77841d9: https://gitlab.com/apgoucher/catagolue/ ... cec76069fe
Moosey wrote:... even manage to upload a quadrillion objects?
By telling Catagolue that you found 10^15 instances of a particular object. (You couldn't get away with this in a real census, because there are statistical tests and peer-validation and so forth...)

Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: June 20th, 2019, 12:46 am
by testitemqlstudop
Moosey wrote:
Ian07 wrote:Someone's trolling again: https://catagolue.appspot.com/census
How did testitem even manage to upload a quadrillion objects?
THAT WAS NOT ME

Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: June 20th, 2019, 7:17 am
by Moosey
testitemqlstudop wrote:
Moosey wrote:
Ian07 wrote:Someone's trolling again: https://catagolue.appspot.com/census
How did testitem even manage to upload a quadrillion objects?
THAT WAS NOT ME
Oh, sorry!

Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: June 20th, 2019, 2:27 pm
by Hdjensofjfnen
Moosey wrote:
testitemqlstudop wrote:
Moosey wrote: How did testitem even manage to upload a quadrillion objects?
THAT WAS NOT ME
Oh, sorry!
And now the user pages are down: https://catagolue.appspot.com/user/apgoucher@gmx.com

Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: June 20th, 2019, 6:04 pm
by _zM
User pages are back up.

Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: June 20th, 2019, 8:03 pm
by apg
_zM wrote:User pages are back up.
Yes, they were down due to an integer overflow problem, and I've deleted the offending censuses (as well as implementing provisions to prevent a repeat of this).

Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: June 20th, 2019, 9:27 pm
by testitemqlstudop
The same spammer that uploaded to SakaTest is back again:

http://gol.hatsya.co.uk/object/xsInfo_G ... tion/b3s23

Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: June 21st, 2019, 2:10 am
by testitemqlstudop

Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: June 21st, 2019, 7:16 am
by Moosey
testitemqlstudop wrote:The same spammer that uploaded to SakaTest is back again:

http://gol.hatsya.co.uk/object/xsInfo_G ... tion/b3s23
@calcyman:
Is there any way to block that specific person?

Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: June 21st, 2019, 10:02 am
by testitemqlstudop
And um why is snowflakes C1 gone? :|

I guess that puts X3VI as #1

Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: June 21st, 2019, 12:53 pm
by Ian07
testitemqlstudop wrote:And um why is snowflakes C1 gone? :|

I guess that puts X3VI as #1
The same guy uploaded a troll haul to that census as well: https://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b2ci ... ommitted=2

Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: June 21st, 2019, 12:57 pm
by Moosey
Ian07 wrote:
testitemqlstudop wrote:And um why is snowflakes C1 gone? :|

I guess that puts X3VI as #1
The same guy uploaded a troll haul to that census as well: https://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b2ci ... ommitted=2
I refer to them as Uploady mcGetYourOwnSymmetry (or just “Uploady”), if we need a unique name for these Sakagolue/Snowflakes/thatothersymmetry trolls (apparently there are multiple, forming a (according to Uploady II) “Nice coding community”. I think we can all agree that at least the first word doesn’t apply very well here. What kind of kind people ruin someone's Symmetry?)
Also, why does X3VI need to be #1 again?

Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: June 21st, 2019, 8:33 pm
by testitemqlstudop
OK, look, if this gets serious to the point where a whole rule with 700G objects is getting broken, Uploady II needs to be IP-banned. (And is there a way to remove the "ylwarning" from the census?)

It is possible to reject all hauls that don't pass:
1. a soup/object ratio consistency check
2. an object well-formedness check
3. a top 5 most common object identicality check

Spamming censuses are an effective way of getting attention, anyhow... negative attention.

(And why do I think majestas did it?)

Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: June 26th, 2019, 4:52 am
by Naszvadi
A fake glider is listed with rank 1 in logarithmic replicator rule:
http://catagolue.appspot.com/census/b36s245/C1/xq4

Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: June 26th, 2019, 11:57 am
by Ian07
Naszvadi wrote:A fake glider is listed with rank 1 in logarithmic replicator rule:
http://catagolue.appspot.com/census/b36s245/C1/xq4
This is an artifact of a now-fixed bug in apgsearch which I think caused it to search a different rule than intended? I'm not sure of the specifics but I remember that it affected the Morley census as well: https://catagolue.appspot.com/census/b368s245/C1

Notice in Morley that the xs1 tabulation is displayed but is completely empty, and that some of the larger still life tabulations also contain fake objects.