Thread for your reactions that might be useful for conduits

[Aleph]

Is a fully-P3 hotcrystal0 reflector possible? The closest I have is this doubler.

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x = 42, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
27bo$25b3o$24bo$24b2o2$21b2o$21b2o6b2o$29b2o3bo2bo$29b3o2bo2bo2bo$6b2o
22bo2b2o2b3obo$7b2o21b2o8bo$4bo2bobo2bo18bobo2bo$2b2o2b3o2bobo17bobo2b
o$2bobobo2bo2b2o18b2o2bo$b2o3bob2o6bo$obo5bo7b2o$2o4bobo6bobo6b2o$6b2o
16bo$25b3o$27bo!

[Sphenocorona]

This is something that's been floating in my backlogs for a while, but there's this pi+block collision that it might be possible to make transparent and turn into a conduit. It's especially noteworthy because it produces a new Pi with such a narrow active area around it that it can feed into the notoriously unworkable PF*39C, a feat that even BR176P can't achieve (I've also included a nice P->H by Kazyan that can only connect to BR176P in one orientation, but could be ambidextrous with a hypothetical conduit based on this reaction):

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x = 119, y = 100, rule = LifeHistory
28.2A58.2A$28.2A58.2A4$13.3D13.2B42.3D$13.D.D11.B3DB41.D.D12.3D$13.D
2.D10.BDBDB41.D2.D11.DBD$15.2D11.DBD2B42.2D11.DBDB$27.8B3.A48.5B6.A$
27.9B.A.A47.5B5.A.A$22.A.A2.9B2.2A42.A.A2.5B6.2A$21.A.2A.9B46.A.2A2.
5B$21.A5.6B48.A5.6B$20.2A5.7B46.2A5.6B$28.6B53.6B$27.8B50.8B$27.8B49.
9B$26.8B49.10B$26.10B47.10B$27.10B45.12B4$93.2E$93.2E12$83.3C$83.C.C$
83.C.C16$20.2A7.2B57.2B7.2A$19.B2AB5.5B53.5B5.B2AB$20.2B6.5B53.5B6.2B
$21.2B4.7B51.7B4.2B$19.6B2.7B51.7B2.6B$18.7B2.7B51.7B2.7B$18.7B.8B51.
8B.7B$17.19B47.19B$5.2B2.2B3.23B45.23B3.2B2.2B$3.D32B47.32BD$.DBD32B
47.32BDBD$B3D9B2A13B3D5B47.5B3D13B2A9B3DB$.D.10B2A13BDBD4B49.4BDBD13B
2A10B.D$3.25BDBD6B45.6BDBD25B$8.B.3B.2B2.17B2A.A41.A.2A17B2.2B.3B.B$
18.14B2.B2AB3A37.3AB2AB2.14B$18.8B.5B4.B4.A35.A4.B4.5B.8B$20.4B3.5B3.
2A.3A37.3A.2A3.5B3.4B$27.6B3.A.A41.A.A4.6B$27.6B3.A.A41.A.A4.6B$27.6B
4.A43.A5.6B$25.8B52.8B$24.9B51.9B$23.10B50.10B$23.10B50.10B$22.12B48.
12B4$33.2E58.2E$33.2E58.2E12$23.3C57.3C$23.C.C57.C.C$23.C.C57.C.C!

I'm sure somebody's noticed this pi+block collision before, but I figured it deserves a proper mention somewhere in the light of its potential.

[C28]

seems promising enough

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x = 50, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
17b2o$6bo2bo2bo3bo2bob2o$6b7o2bob3obo$2o13bo6b3o$bo2b11obob4o2bo$bobo
4bo5bobo4bo$2o2bo4b3o3b2o2bo8b3o$o2bo2bo3bobo4bo2bo5b5o$b2ob2o5b3o3b3o
4b7o$2bobo6b3o6bob3o16b3o$2bobo6b3o6bob3o16b3o$b2ob2o5b3o3b3o4b7o9bob
o$o2bo2bo3bobo4bo2bo5b5o9b2o6bo$2o2bo4b3o3b2o2bo8b3o16bobo$bobo4bo5bo
bo4bo26bo$bo2b11obob4o2bo$2o13bo6b3o$6b7o2bob3obo$6bo2bo2bo3bo2bob2o$
17b2o!

[yoleo]

Running CatForce on the catalysts at the very start of HLx111R, the following two variations seem like they have potential:

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x = 79, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
77b2o$72b2obo2bo$71bobob3o$71bobo$69b3ob5o$68bo3bo4bo$8bo39bo19b4o2bo$
8bobo37bobo20bob2o$8b3o15b2obo18b3o17b2obo$10bo10b2o3b2ob3o18bo10b2o6b
obo$19bo2bo9bo26bo2bo4bobob2o$19b3o4b2ob2obo26b3o5b2o$2b2o23bob2ob2o8b
2o$bobo15b2obo4bo13bobo15b2obo$bo17bob2o5b3ob2o7bo17bob2o$2o28bob2o6b
2o!

Here's my best attempt so far. Formal name would be HBx79R (I think I got that right) but there's 2 blocks to clean up:

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x = 34, y = 32, rule = LifeHistory
26.A$24.3A$23.A$23.2A3$18.D$17.2D$18.2D10$31.2A$31.2A3$8.C$8.C.C$8.3C
15.2A.A$10.C10.2A3.2A.3A$19.A2.A9.A$19.3A4.2A.2A.A$2.2A23.A.2A.2A$.A.
A15.2A.A4.A$.A17.A.2A5.3A.2A$2A28.A.2A!

[Gustone]

something something recreation

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x = 24, y = 14, rule = LifeHistory
D$3D19.C$D.D18.C.C$2.D17.C2.C$21.2C5$9.D$.2A6.D.D$2.2A5.3D.2C$.2A8.D.
2C$.A!

[Game of Life Fun]

Is this reflection known or useful?

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x = 12, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
o$o$o2$2b3o2$o$o$o2$9b3o$9bo$10bo! [[ STOP 16 ]]

Edit: more blinker tracks for glider:

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x = 389, y = 109, rule = B3/S23
41bo17bo2$40bo2bobobo5bobobo2bo14bo2bobobo2bo2$39bo3bo13bo3bo12bo7bo2b
o2$39bo3bobobo5bobobo3bo2bobobo4bo4bobobo2bo2$39bo3bo3bo9bo3bo2bo7bo5b
o6bo2$40bo2bobobo2bo2bobobo2bo3bobobo2bo6bobobo2bo2$41bo8bo8bo2$202bo
17bo2$102bo2bobobo13bo2bobobo2bo3bo17bo2bo13bo2bobobo2bobobo14bo2bobob
o5bobobo2bo14bo2bo2bobobo$61b3o$102bo2bo3bo12bo3bo6bo3bo17bo2bo12bo7bo
2bo17bo3bo13bo3bo12bo3bo6bo2$102bo2bobobo2bobobo4bo4bobobo2bobobo17bo
2bo2bobobo4bo4bobobo2bobobo13bo3bobobo5bobobo3bo2bobobo4bo4bo2bobobo$
61b3o$102bo2bo3bo2bo7bo9bo6bo17bo2bo2bo7bo5bo6bo3bo13bo7bo5bo7bo2bo7bo
5bo6bo2$102bo2bobobo2bobobo2bo6bobobo6bo17bo2bo2bobobo2bo6bobobo2bobob
o14bo2bobobo2bo2bobobo2bo3bobobo2bo6bo2bobobo$68bo$68bo133bo8bo8bo$61b
3o4bo2$68bo137b3o$68bo$61b3o4bo48b3o2$206b3o$211bo$68bo4b3o41b3o91bo$
68bo142bo$68bo$211bo$68bo4b3o135bo$68bo142bo$68bo48b3o94b3o2$80bo91b3o
b3o$80bo101b3o$73b3o4bo36b3o94b3o$122b3ob3o3b3ob3o80bo$80bo138bo$80bo
101b3o34bo$73b3o4bo$219bo$137b3o79bo$219bo45bo3bo$80bo4b3o134b3o40bo3b
o$80bo102b3ob3o75bo3bo$80bo56b3o53b3o$331b3o$80bo4b3o134b3o$80bo146bo
92b3o$80bo112b3o31bo$227bo103b3o$92bo44b3o$92bo134bo55b3o34b3o$85b3o4b
o134bo35bo3bo66b3o$227bo35bo3bo4b3o$92bo44b3o54b3ob3o29b3o30bo3bo55b3o
$92bo49b3ob3o3b3ob3o45b3o76b3o$85b3o4bo241b3o$272b3o$230b3o90b3o$204b
3o28bo101b3o$92bo4b3o57b3o75bo48bo3bo$92bo142bo48bo3bo37b3o$92bo191bo
3bo$3o7bo224bo101b3o$10bo81bo4b3o57b3o75bo$4bo5bo7b3o7bo63bo112b3ob3o
23bo90b3o$4bo23bo63bo122b3o20b3o99b3o$4bo7b3o7bo5bo7b3o7bo$22bo23bo
282b3o$3o7bo11bo7b3o7bo5bo$10bo29bo56b3o57b3o55b3o20b3o61b3o35b3o$10bo
7b3o7bo11bo7b3o231bo3bo$28bo253bo3bo4b3o35b3o$28bo7b3o7bo235bo3bo56b3o
$46bo50b3o57b3o142b3o$46bo285b3o$291b3o$343b3o$75b3o$75bo256b3o$76bo2$
301b3o$301bo$302bo38b3o$341bo40bo3bo$342bo39bo3bo$65b3o50b3o57b3o50b3o
20b3o117b3o5bo3bo$65bo52bo59bo52bo22bo$66bo52bo59bo52bo22bo$335b3o$
227b3o20b3o38b3o41bo38b3ob3o$227bo22bo40bo44bo41bo$228bo22bo40bo86bo6b
3o2$110b3o57b3o$110bo59bo$111bo59bo214b3o! [[ THEME GENERATIONS ]]
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[Entity Valkyrie 2]

Is this reflection known or useful?

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x = 12, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
o$o$o2$2b3o2$o$o$o2$9b3o$9bo$10bo! [[ STOP 16 ]]

I guess it would be useful if it reproduced the 3/4 traffic light.

[C28]

can't think of a way to save this without rendering the whole thing just about useless, but... p8 Unidentified to U-turner partial

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x = 26, y = 44, rule = B3/S23
9b3o$10bobo$12bo11b2o$9bob2o11bo$9b2o3$11bo$9bo3bo2$5bo2bo5bo2bo$5b4o
b3ob4o$3b2o4bo3bo4b2o$2bo3bob3ob3obo3bo$3b3obo2bobo2bob3o$5bobo7bobo$
6b2o7b2o$3bo6bobo6bo$3b7o3b7o2$5b2o9b2o$5bobobo3bobobo$2b2obo11bob2o$
2bo2bob4ob4obo2bo$4bob2o2bobo2b2obo$5o3bobobobo3b5o$o4bob2obobob2obo4b
o$bo2bo2bob2ob2obo2bo2bo$2o2b3o3bobo3b3o2b2o$7b2obobob2o$4b5obobob5o$
3bo4bobobobo4bo$3b2o4bo3bo4b2o$7b2o5b2o3$6bo9bo$5bobo7bobo$4bo3bo5bo3b
o$3bo3bo7bo3bo$2bo3bo9bo3bo$bo3bo11bo3bo$2bobo13bobo$3bo15bo!

edit: a block to restore

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x = 21, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
19b2o$19b2o2$7bo$7b3o$10bo$3b2o4b2o$4bo$4bobo$5b2o2$8b2o$7bo2bo$8bobo
$9bo3$7b2o7b3o$2obobo2bo7bo$ob2ob3o9bo$4bo$4bob2o$5bobo!

edit 2: maybe?

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x = 26, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
24bo$7bo15bobo$7b3o13bobo$10bo13bo$3b2o4b2o$4bo$4bobo$5b2o2$8b2o$7bo2b
o$8bobo$9bo3$7b2o7b3o$2obobo2bo7bo$ob2ob3o9bo$4bo$4bob2o$5bobo!

edit 3: this is an interesting one

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x = 36, y = 24, rule = B3/S23
9b2o$4bo5bo$3bobo4bobo$3bobo5b2o$b3ob2o16b3o$o22b3o$b3ob2o15bobo$3bob
2o15b2o6$29b2obo$29b2ob3o$35bo$29b2ob3o$30bobo$30bobo$31bo$21b2o$21bo
$22b3o$24bo!

hopefully it can be made into a useable conduit

edit 4: need to keep the debris from destorying the block as it's being restored

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x = 24, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
22b2o$22bo$14bob2ob2obo$14b2obobobo$20bo3$19b2o$19b2o$7bo$7b3o$10bo$3b
2o4b2o$4bo$4bobo$5b2o2$8b2o$7bo2bo$8bobo$9bo3$7b2o7b3o$2obobo2bo7bo$o
b2ob3o9bo$4bo$4bob2o$5bobo!

edit 5: something

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x = 32, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
11b3o$11b3o$2o8bobo$obo7b2o$bo$19bo2bob2obo2bo$18b2o2bo4bo2b2o$19bo2b
ob2obo2bo!

edit 6:

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x = 41, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
38b3o$38b3o$37bobo$37b2o$17bo$2o15b2o$2o16b2o$17b2o4$17b2o$2o16b2o7b2o
$2o15b2o8b2o$17bo!

edit 7:

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x = 19, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
12b3o$12b3o$11bobo$11b2o10$8b3o$7bo3bo$4b2ob2ob2ob2o$3bobo2b3o2bobo$b
3o3b2ob2o3b3o$o3b3o2bo2b3o3bo$b3o5bo5b3o$4b4o3b4o$3bo3bo3bo3bo$2bobo2b
5o2bobo$3bo3bo3bo3bo$4b3o5b3o$7b5o$6bo5bo$7b5o$9bo!

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x = 4, y = 22, rule = B3/S23
b2o$2b2o$2bo4$bo$bo2$bo$obo2$3o3$3o2$obo$bo2$bo$bo!

edit 9:

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x = 13, y = 22, rule = B3/S23
b2o$2bo$bo$b2o$3bo6b3o$b3o6b3o$o8bobo$2o7b2o5$4bo$3bobo$4bo4$6b2o$5bo
bo$5bo$4b2o!

edit 10: very uncertain

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x = 17, y = 28, rule = B3/S23
8b3o$8b3o$7bobo$7b2o11$7b3o$5b7o$2bo2b2obob2o2bo$bob4o3b4obo$b2o11b2o
$2b3o7b3o$2b2o9b2o$2bo11bo$b3ob3ob3ob3o$o2bo2b2ob2o2bo2bo$3ob2obobob2o
b3o$3bobobobobobo$2obo2b2ob2o2bob2o$ob2o9b2obo!

[hotcrystal0]

Is this the future of Herschel conduits?

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x = 26, y = 19, rule = B3/S23History
A$3A$3.A$2.2A10.D$13.3D$12.2D.D2$20.2A$20.2A2$.C19.A$.C.C17.2A$.3C16.
A2.2A$3.C11.2A5.A.A$15.A8.A$16.3A$18.A$24.2A$24.2A!

[affamatodidio]

Could we get a connection, and a new G-H+G?

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x = 54, y = 49, rule = LifeHistory
37.A6.2A$38.A5.2A$21.F14.3A5$39.2A$38.A2.A$39.2A9$7.2A$7.2A3$.2A$.2A47.
2C$5.2A43.C.C$5.2A15.D29.C$22.D.D27.2C$22.3D.2A$24.D.2A$2A$2A3$50.2A$
50.2A$24.2C$23.C.C$13.3E7.C$14.E7.2C26.2A$12.3E35.2A$36.2A$35.A.A$35.
A$34.2A8.2A$44.A$20.2C23.3A$20.C.C24.A$22.C$22.2C!

Just needs both a beehive factory and block factory, both with very low edginess. This should be just a matter of creativity.

[dani]

Is this the future of Herschel conduits?

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x = 26, y = 19, rule = B3/S23History
A$3A$3.A$2.2A10.D$13.3D$12.2D.D2$20.2A$20.2A2$.C19.A$.C.C17.2A$.3C16.
A2.2A$3.C11.2A5.A.A$15.A8.A$16.3A$18.A$24.2A$24.2A!

Here's a spark-assisted period-sextupler, found by hand using a similar reaction:

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#C [[ PASTET EVERY 72 PASTE 2o$b2o$2o$o! 0 14 ]]
x = 46, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
32b2o$32b2o4$32b2o$33bo$33b3o7$2o21bo$b2o18b3o$2o2b2o15bo$o3b2o15bo2$
40b2o$40b2o3$b2o39bo$bo19b2o17b2o$2bo17bobo18bo$b2o17bo13b2o6b4o$19b2o
13b2o7b2o$30b2o12b2o$30bo13b2o$31b3o10b2o$33bo!

I'm not a conduits guy, so I'm not sure if this is useful, probably not. The output herschel's FNG must be suppressed or it ruins the reaction. The glider output can probably be put into a semi-snark if a more usable glider output is desired.

[GUYTU6J]

Is this the future of Herschel conduits?

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x = 26, y = 19, rule = B3/S23History
A$3A$3.A$2.2A10.D$13.3D$12.2D.D2$20.2A$20.2A2$.C19.A$.C.C17.2A$.3C16.
A2.2A$3.C11.2A5.A.A$15.A8.A$16.3A$18.A$24.2A$24.2A!

...No, I would not call it "future" because it could have been found around the same time the periodic Lx65 was discovered, which has the same spark interaction and a similar eater placement that cleans the B-heptomino's block instead of leaving it. There is even a long-known R64_Lx65 Herschel splitter/duplicator based on the spark interaction.

Notably, a hypothetical stable (what would be properly called "future" in my opinion since such catalysis is unknown) left-turning H-to-B converter in 45 ticks could be both flippling (HLx45B) and not flipping (HL45B). The not-flipping mechanism was mentioned here and here.

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#C [[ STOP 45 ]]
x = 63, y = 28, rule = B3/S23
o39bo$3o37b3o$3bo39bo$2b2o38b2o4$20b2o$20b2o2$bo19bo19bo$bobo17b2o18bo
bo$b3o16bo2b2o16b3o$3bo11b2o5bobo18bo10b4o$15bo8bo28b6o$16b3o33bob4obo
$18bo31b3o6b3o$24b2o23bo4bo3bo3bo$24b2o24b5o2bo2bobo$58bob2o$52b2ob4o$
51bo3bo3b3o$51bobob4o3bo$50b2ob2obo3b2o$58bobo$58bobo$56bobob2o$56b2o!

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Is this reflection known or useful?

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x = 12, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
o$o$o2$2b3o2$o$o$o2$9b3o$9bo$10bo!

The one-time glider shifter has a surprising use in glider synthesis:

The 3Glider database I have shows only 5 collisions where the results contain a Snake:

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x=35, y=35
32bo$32bobo$32b2o27$o$b2o$2o$5bo$4b2o$4bobo!

...

This one can be cleaned up with a single glider, so now there is at least one two-stage four-glider synthesis for a snake!

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x = 17, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
o$b2o$2o3$3b3o2$bo5bo$bo5bo$bo5bo3$6b2o5b2obo$5bo2bo4bob2o$5bobo$6bo!

[hotcrystal0]

Is this the future of Herschel conduits?

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x = 26, y = 19, rule = B3/S23History
A$3A$3.A$2.2A10.D$13.3D$12.2D.D2$20.2A$20.2A2$.C19.A$.C.C17.2A$.3C16.
A2.2A$3.C11.2A5.A.A$15.A8.A$16.3A$18.A$24.2A$24.2A!

Notably, a hypothetical stable (what would be properly called "future" in my opinion since such catalysis is unknown) left-turning H-to-B converter in 45 ticks could be both flippling (HLx45B) and not flipping (HL45B). The not-flipping mechanism was mentioned here and here.

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#C [[ STOP 45 ]]
x = 63, y = 28, rule = B3/S23
o39bo$3o37b3o$3bo39bo$2b2o38b2o4$20b2o$20b2o2$bo19bo19bo$bobo17b2o18bo
bo$b3o16bo2b2o16b3o$3bo11b2o5bobo18bo10b4o$15bo8bo28b6o$16b3o33bob4obo
$18bo31b3o6b3o$24b2o23bo4bo3bo3bo$24b2o24b5o2bo2bobo$58bob2o$52b2ob4o$
51bo3bo3b3o$51bobob4o3bo$50b2ob2obo3b2o$58bobo$58bobo$56bobob2o$56b2o!

Adding a second eater makes an unnamed active region that can probably be perturbed to get a useful output.

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x = 19, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
o$3o$3bo$2b2o7$bo$bobo$b3o$3bo11b2o$15bo$16b3o$18bo!

[Anivec]

Some conduit partials found by modifying a h-to-Bi-pond factory:

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x = 149, y = 42, rule = LifeHistory
72.A$72.3A$17.A57.A$17.3A54.2A$20.A$19.2A5$77.2A55.A$76.A2.A52.3A$22.
2A52.A.A52.A$21.A2.A52.A53.2A$21.A.A113.2A$22.A114.A$135.A.A$31.2A102.
2A$31.2A2$147.2A$147.A$145.A.A$145.2A$106.2C$55.2C49.3C.2C2.2A$55.3C.
2C2.2A42.2C.3C.2A$2C54.2C.3C.2A41.3C.2C$3C.2C2.2A45.3C.2C46.2C$.2C.3C
.2A46.2C$3C.2C$.2C131.A6.2A$83.A6.2A41.A.A5.A$82.A.A5.A43.2A6.3A$28.A
54.2A6.3A50.A$27.A.A63.A43.2A$28.2A56.2A49.A$86.A51.3A$31.2A54.3A50.A
$31.A57.A$32.3A$34.A!

EDIT:
These are more robust:

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x = 108, y = 18, rule = LifeHistory
35.2A33.2C$35.A34.3C.2C2.2A$33.A.A35.2C.3C.2A$2C31.2A35.3C.2C$3C.2C2.
2A61.2C$.2C.3C.2A94.2A$3C.2C98.A.A$.2C95.A7.A$34.2A.A59.A.A6.2A$34.2A
.3A58.2A$28.A11.A$27.A.A4.2A.3A61.2A$28.2A5.A.A63.A$35.A.A64.3A$31.2A
3.A67.A$31.A$32.3A$34.A!

[C28]

p8 U to some junk

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x = 34, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
10b2o$3b3o4b2o6b3o10b2o$3b3o12b3o10b2o$3b3o11bobo11b2o$3o14b2o13bo$3o
28bobo$3o27b2obo3$8b2o21b2o$8b2o21b2o3$9b2o$7bob2o$7bo$7bo$7bo2bo$8b2o
!

edit: need to find a catalyst that can replace the eater 1

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x = 9, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
b3o$b3o$obo$2o$7b2o$6bobo$7bo3$4b2o$4b2o3$5b2o$5bo$2o4b3o$2o6bo!

edit 2: p6 U to junk

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x = 14, y = 30, rule = B3/S23
4b3o$4b3o$3bobo$3b2o8$6b2o2b2o$6b2o2b2o4$4b6o$3bo6bo$b3o6b3o$o7b2o3bo
$b6o3b2obo$9bob2o$3b7o$2bobobo3b3o$2bobo3b2o3bo$b2ob2obobob2o$8b2obo$
9bobo$7bobob2o$7b2o!

[Jormungant]

I am wondering if this block bait could be of some use in making new X-to-Hs maybe...:

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x = 26, y = 25, rule = LifeHistory
4$17.2A$7.A9.A.A.2A$6.B3A9.A.A$5.4B.A7.2A.A$4.4B.2A5.4B.A.2A$4.2AB2.
4BA4B4A2.A$4.BA5.BABA3BAB2.2A$4.BA.AB.2BA2BA2B.3A$6.2AB.3B2A2B4.A$8.
9B4.A.A$22.2A2$13.2D$13.2D$12.A$12.2A8.D$13.2A5.3D$12.2A6.D.D$20.D!

[dvgrn]

I am wondering if this block bait could be of some use in making new X-to-Hs maybe...

Hmm, interesting. It makes a reasonably nice inline (no gliders needed) suppressor for two Herschel/B-heptomino signals out of three:

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x = 73, y = 94, rule = LifeHistory
37.2A$27.A9.A.A.2A$27.3A9.A.A$30.A7.2A.A$29.2A10.A.2A$24.2A7.A4.4A2.A
12.A$25.A6.A.A3.A3.2A11.3A$25.A.A4.A2.A3.3A12.A$26.2A5.2A6.A12.2A$41.
A.A$42.2A$10.2A4.2A$10.2A3.A2.A14.2D$16.2A15.2D$32.C$32.2C8.D$33.2C5.
3D$33.C6.D.D$32.C7.D2$11.2A$11.2A4.D$16.3D46.D$15.D2.2D45.D.D3.2A$54.
2A9.3D3.2A$7.2A32.2A11.2A11.D$8.A33.A$8.A.A28.3A$9.2A28.A3$23.2A$23.A
.A$25.A$25.2A7$20.2A$20.A$21.3A$23.A4$4.2A$3.A.A$3.A25.2A$2.2A25.A$
10.2A15.A.A$10.2A15.2A12$9.2A7.3C$8.A.A8.C$8.A8.3C$7.2A5$25.2A$25.A.A
$2A25.A$.A25.2A$.A.A15.2A$2.2A15.2A12$10.3C7.2A$11.C8.A.A$11.3C8.A$
22.2A!

I haven't thought of any situations where that would be particularly useful, really, given all the other period triplers we have (I've added this one in)... but that doesn't mean there isn't something out there. The tripling mechanism is small enough that it could conceivably improve the size of some gun somewhere, if the geometry happened to be right -- normally a tremi-Snark will be smaller, but strange things can happen when guns' bounding boxes have weird-shaped empty corners.

[hotcrystal0]

A speed tunnel intermediate conduit lead:

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 x = 42, y = 50, rule = LifeHistory
23$21.2A$12.A8.2A$12.3A$15.A$14.2A2$19.3C$20.C.C8.A$22.C7.A.A$19.C.2C
8.2A$19.2C!

[Entity Valkyrie 2]

A speed tunnel intermediate conduit lead:

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 x = 42, y = 50, rule = LifeHistory
23$21.2A$12.A8.2A$12.3A$15.A$14.2A2$19.3C$20.C.C8.A$22.C7.A.A$19.C.2C
8.2A$19.2C!

what is that eater 1 doing here?

[hotcrystal0]

A speed tunnel intermediate conduit lead:

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 x = 42, y = 50, rule = LifeHistory
23$21.2A$12.A8.2A$12.3A$15.A$14.2A2$19.3C$20.C.C8.A$22.C7.A.A$19.C.2C
8.2A$19.2C!

what is that eater 1 doing here?

It‘s for if a conduit is connected to it.

[dvgrn]

Cross-posting from Discord:

This is a Herschel-to-V-spark converter with good clearance, repeat time 63, posted by iNoMed on 4 December 2023:

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x = 20, y = 34, rule = B3/S23
o$3o10b2o$3bo9b2o$2b2o7$bo$bobo$b3o14bo$3bo13bobo$17bobo$18bo10$11b2o$
10bo2bo$11b2o3$10bo$9bobo$9bobo$10bo!

Wasn't quite sure where to put this, but it doesn't seem impossible that a V-spark-to-X converter might show up someday -- so maybe this thread is good enough.

Meanwhile, this enables oscillators supporting hive five for all periods 63 and above.

[Period1GliderGun]

Meanwhile, this enables oscillators supporting hive five for all periods 63 and above.

In terms of H-to-Vs, I feel sure that somewhere I've seen something that uses a transparent mango and turns an H into a twin bees spark. Maybe it has higher repeat time, though...

[EvinZL]

In terms of H-to-Vs, I feel sure that somewhere I've seen something that uses a transparent mango and turns an H into a twin bees spark. Maybe it has higher repeat time, though...

It's this (by Kazyan) and it's somewhat slow

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x = 20, y = 28, rule = LifeHistory
7.3B.3B$7.8B$5.12B$4.13B$5.13B$7.10B$6.11B$6.11B$7.11B$8.11B$8.8BA3B$
8.7BABA2B$7.7BA2BA2B$5.9BABA3B$3.12BA4B$3.2BC14B$2.3BCBC11B$3.2B3C4B.
5B$2.5BC4B.4B$.10B2.3B$4B9.2AB$3B9.A.AB$2B10.2AB$B12.4B$15.2A$15.A$
16.3A$18.A!

in terms of hive five oscillators, it might be a better idea to collide gliders

[dvgrn]

in terms of hive five oscillators, it might be a better idea to collide gliders...

63 is quite close to 61, the repeat time of the speed tunnel, which is kinda sorta as low as you can go with an engineered X-to-V-spark converter where a single signal gets split and synchronized to make a V. Of course it can be done directly with guns, for any period we have a true-period gun for.

... Wait, why are we wanting to add high fives to every possible oscillator, anyway? Seems like it's mostly a kind of snowball effect from an offhand mention of supporting oscillator periods in the high five article.

[confocaloid]

Here is a proof-of-concept construction, to show that engineered bumpers for periods >= 63 are possible geometrically

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x = 176, y = 181, rule = LifeHistory
12.2A$12.A.A9.2A5.2A$13.A10.2A5.2A3$24.2A5.2A$23.A.2A3.2A.A$4.2A11.2A
3.3A.2A.2A.3A$3.A.A2.3A4.2A.A3.3A2.A.A2.3A$3.A.3A2.A4.2A5.2A3.A.A3.2A
$2.2A.A.3A.A3.3A6.2A.A.A.2A$.A2.4A2.3A3.3A7.A3.A$3A7.3A4.2A$3A2.4A2.A
3.A.2A$.A.3A.A.2A4.2A$2.A2.3A.A16.2A$2.3A2.A.A16.A$7.2A14.2A.A$25.A$
21.A$19.2A3.A$2A5.2A10.2A$.A5.2A11.A3.A$.A.A14.A2.A.A$2.2A14.2A.A.A.A
.2A$6.2A13.A.A.2A.A$5.A.A13.2A$6.A4$.2A12.A.A$.A2.5A7.2A$3.2A.A.3A5.A
$6.A4.A$2.A.2A.5A2.A$2.2A.A.A.A2.3A$5.A.A2.2A$5.4A2.A.4A$9.A.A.A2.A$
10.2A$12.A$9.A.2A$8.2A$4.A2.A.A.2A35.2A.2A$4.4A.2A.A36.A.A$8.A23.A11.
2A.A5.A.2A$6.A.A24.A9.A.A.2A3.2A.A.A9.A$6.2A23.3A8.A6.A.A6.A8.3A10.2A
$42.7A3.7A11.A9.2A$69.2A$44.3A7.3A$43.A2.A3.A3.A2.A$43.2A4.A.A4.2A$
49.A.A$50.A2$68.D$68.D.D$49.3D5.2A9.3D14.A$49.D2.D4.2A11.D13.A.A$48.D
2.2D31.A.A$48.2D2.D32.A2$39.2A28.2A$39.A.A23.A3.2A$41.A6.2A5.2A7.A.A$
41.3A3.A2.A4.A.A5.A.A$39.2A3.A3.A.A6.A5.A$38.A2.4A4.A7.2A3.2A14.C.C$
38.2A.A10.2A25.C17.A$41.A.2A7.A42.3A$41.A.A9.3A23.2A13.A$40.2A.A.A9.A
22.A2.A12.2A$44.2A33.2A$90.A$89.A.A$81.A6.A2.A$80.A.A6.2A$80.A.A$81.A
2$93.2C$92.2C$94.C48$168.2A$167.A.A$167.A$163.A.2A.4A$163.2A.A.A2.A$
166.2A$163.2A.A$163.A$164.2A$159.A2.A.A.A$159.4A.A2.4A$164.2A2.A.A$
161.3A2.A.A.A.2A$161.A2.5A.2A.A$164.A4.A$165.3A.A.2A$167.5A2.A$173.2A
4$169.A$153.2A13.A.A$147.A.2A.A.A13.2A$147.2A.A.A.A.2A14.2A$152.A.A2.
A14.A.A$151.A3.A11.2A5.A$155.2A10.2A5.2A$151.A3.2A$154.A$150.A$149.A.
2A14.2A$149.A16.A.A2.3A$148.2A16.A.3A2.A$159.2A4.2A.A.3A.A$157.2A.A3.
A2.4A2.3A$157.2A4.3A7.3A$145.A3.A7.3A3.3A2.4A2.A$143.2A.A.A.2A6.3A3.A
.3A.A.2A$141.2A3.A.A3.2A5.2A4.A2.3A.A$141.3A2.A.A2.3A3.A.2A4.3A2.A.A$
141.3A.2A.2A.3A3.2A11.2A$142.A.2A3.2A.A$143.2A5.2A3$143.2A5.2A10.A$
143.2A5.2A9.A.A$162.2A!

and what's this...? oh my! b3s23love found this to be a smaller p41 bumper! :mrgreen:

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x = 55, y = 38, rule = B3/S23
6b2o16bo$5bobo14b3o$b2o2bo10bo4bo3b2o$bobob2o7b3o3bob2o3bo$3bo2bo6bo6b
obob3o$3b2o8b2o4b2obobo$b2o2bo17bo$o2b2o23b2o$2obo7bo5b2o9bobo$3bo6b3o
4b2o3bo6bo$3b2o5b2obo7bobo$10b2obo5b2o$11b2o6bo2b2o10bo$6b2o3bo10bo8bo
4bo$5bobo12b2o5b4o6bo$5bo14b2o6b2o6bo$4b2o15b2obo4b2o$24b2o4bob2o15b2o
$14bo3bo6b2o6b2o14bo$13bobobo6b4o5b2o12bobo$8b2o3bobo2bo4bo8bo10bo3b2o
$7bo2bo3bo5bo10b2o2bo6b2o$8b2o24b2o5bob2o$31bobo7bob2o5b2o$25bo6bo3b2o
4b3o6bo$24bobo9b2o5bo7bob2o$25b2o23b2o2bo$31bo17bo2b2o$10bo19bobob2o4b
2o8b2o$9bobo16b3obobo6bo6bo2bo$9bo2bo14bo3b2obo3b3o7b2obobo$10b2o16b2o
3bo4bo10bo2b2o$4bo25b3o14bobo$4b2o24bo16b2o$3bobo8b2o$14bobo$16bo$16b
2o!

Edit: here is a transparent mango version, shown at period 99:

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x = 204, y = 102, rule = LifeHistory
111.2A$96.2E13.A$95.E2.E10.A.A$96.E2.E9.2A$97.2E6.2A$105.A.A$106.2A
29.2A$127.A9.A.A.2A$127.3A9.A.A$112.2A16.A7.2A.A$107.2A2.A2.A14.2A10.
A.2A$101.3D3.A.A2.2A10.2A7.A4.4A2.A$102.D7.2A11.A.A6.A.A3.A3.2A$87.C.
C10.3D8.A9.3A.A.A4.A2.A3.3A$70.A17.C19.A2.A.2A5.A5.2A5.2A6.A$70.3A34.
A.A.A2.A5.2A19.A.A$73.A13.2E19.2A.2A29.2A$72.2A12.E2.E$87.2E41.D2.2D$
77.A52.2D2.D$76.A.A33.C11.2A4.D2.D$76.A2.A6.E25.3C9.2A5.3D$77.2A6.E.E
24.C.C$85.E.E26.C$86.E56.A$132.A9.2A16.2A.A.2A15.2A5.2A$73.2C56.A.A8.
A.A9.2A3.A2.2A.A2.A.2A.A7.A3.A2.A.A$74.2C17.2A30.2A4.A.A4.2A14.A3.A.A
4.A.2A.A.2A7.2A2.A2.A$73.C19.2A30.A2.A3.A3.A2.A12.A.A4.A.5A19.A2.A$
99.2A25.3A7.3A13.2A7.A4.A.2A16.2A$99.2A59.A3.A.A.2A16.3A$124.7A3.7A
18.A3.A.A$124.A6.A.A6.A18.2A3.A23.2A$97.2A26.A.A.2A3.2A.A.A3.A46.A.2A
$97.2A5.2A20.2A.A5.A.2A3.A.A43.4A.A$104.2A25.A.A9.A44.A3.A$130.2A.2A
31.A.A20.3A$161.3A7.2A18.A.A$161.A2.2A4.A.A19.2A$161.2A.4A18.2A$163.
3A19.A2.A$142.2A42.2A.A$142.2A37.A7.A$180.2A7.2A$174.2A4.A.A$175.A$
142.2A28.3A$142.2A10.A5.2A10.A$155.2A3.A.A$154.2A6.A36.2A$162.2A35.A$
201.A$181.2A14.5A$140.2A40.A13.A$140.A2.A.2A35.A.A12.3A$142.2A.A.A.A
33.2A15.A$143.A.A.2A.A46.4A$143.A2.A3.A41.2A3.A3.2A$144.A.A3.2A40.2A
4.3A2.A$145.A32.A21.A.2A$176.3A21.A$175.A23.2A$175.2A2$191.2A$191.A$
178.2A12.3A$177.A.A14.A$179.A$165.2A$164.A.A5.2A$164.A6.A.A$163.2A6.A
$173.A$25.2A150.A$26.2A146.A.A.A$25.A147.4A.A$169.A2.A3.A.A.2A$169.4A
.2A2.A2.A$173.A4.2A$171.A.A$171.2A18$3A$2.A$.A!

In terms of H-to-Vs, I feel sure that somewhere I've seen something that uses a transparent mango and turns an H into a twin bees spark. Maybe it has higher repeat time, though...

It's this (by Kazyan) and it's somewhat slow

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x = 20, y = 28, rule = LifeHistory
7.3B.3B$7.8B$5.12B$4.13B$5.13B$7.10B$6.11B$6.11B$7.11B$8.11B$8.8BA3B$
8.7BABA2B$7.7BA2BA2B$5.9BABA3B$3.12BA4B$3.2BC14B$2.3BCBC11B$3.2B3C4B.
5B$2.5BC4B.4B$.10B2.3B$4B9.2AB$3B9.A.AB$2B10.2AB$B12.4B$15.2A$15.A$
16.3A$18.A!