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Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits
Posted: February 1st, 2021, 7:35 pm
by MathAndCode
Sphenocorona wrote: February 1st, 2021, 7:29 pmOh man, that's really nice! Unfortunately that block is just barely too close to be fed by HL75P or HF95P, so without miracle this seems like it can only connect to the periodic BR176P (or RR204P which is currently a behemoth).
I haven't heard of RR204P before. Could you please show it to me?
Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits
Posted: February 1st, 2021, 8:49 pm
by Sphenocorona
MathAndCode wrote: February 1st, 2021, 7:35 pmI haven't heard of RR204P before. Could you please show it to me?
It's just the 'stable' version of RF28Bd + BR176P which uses the former's glider output to (eventually) kill the problem blinker, as shown
here. It's something that would be in yellow if it were included in the ECC since it's not really entirely elementary - but it probably won't ever be included there anyway unless a much simpler version is found (or BR176P itself becomes stable, making the glider unnecessary).
Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits
Posted: February 2nd, 2021, 7:53 pm
by MathAndCode
Sphenocorona wrote: February 1st, 2021, 8:49 pm
MathAndCode wrote: February 1st, 2021, 7:35 pmI haven't heard of RR204P before. Could you please show it to me?
It's just the 'stable' version of RF28Bd + BR176P which uses the former's glider output to (eventually) kill the problem blinker, as shown
here. It's something that would be in yellow if it were included in the ECC since it's not really entirely elementary - but it probably won't ever be included there anyway unless a much simpler version is found (or BR176P itself becomes stable, making the glider unnecessary).
Ah, yes. I remember that but never bothered to figure out its systematic name. I suspect that BR176P can be made stable by itself, and I certainly hope that that's the case because of its phenomenal output clearance and because a completion would likely yield two other stable conduits.
Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits
Posted: February 2nd, 2021, 8:41 pm
by Jormungant
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Here is some chaos:
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x = 72, y = 82, rule = LifeHistory
6$24.2A$25.A$25.A.AB$26.2AB$28.6B14.2B$28.4BD2B2.6B4.4B.2B5.B$27.3B3D
23B.6B.2B$24.AB.4BD31B3D$23.A.A39BD$24.A2B.35B3DB$25.B.39B$26.38B$25.
33B.4B$24.21B3.5B.2B3.4B$23.4B2.16B4.4B7.2B$22.4B3.15B3.5B$21.4B2.9B.
3B7.2A$20.4B3.10B11.A$19.4B3.10B9.3A$18.4B4.9B10.A$17.4B5.10B$17.3B6.
9B$17.2B6.11B$17.2B7.10B$17.2B7.9B$17.2B8.8B.2B$18.B8.10B2A$18.B5.B2.
10B2A$23.2AB.8B.2B$23.2A11B$24.B.10B$17.B10.3BC3B$17.2B7.5BC4B$26.2A
2.BC4B2A$27.A3.5BA.A$24.3A3.4B4.A$24.A4.7B2.2A$29.7B6.C$29.4BA4B3.CB$
28.4BABA2B3.B3C5.2B$26.6BABA2B2.4B5.2B$25.8BA2B2.4B5.4B$25.10B2.4B5.
4B$25.10B.4B5.4B$24.15B5.4B$24.14B5.4B$24.13B5.4B$24.12B5.4B$24.11B5.
4B$22.12B5.4B$18.B2.14B3.4B$17.19B.4B$16.24B$16.7B2A14B$15.8B2A16B$
15.26B$15.24B.B2A$15.21B4.BA.A$14.22B7.A$14.20B9.2A$12.2A19B$7.2A2.A
2BA4.14B$7.A3.BABA4.13B$4.2A.A.4BA5.9B.B.B2A$5.A.A.2AB7.8B4.BA.A$4.A
2.A.BAB9.3B10.A$4.2A2.A4.A20.2A$9.5A2$8.A.2A$8.2A.A!
Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits
Posted: February 3rd, 2021, 12:38 am
by MathAndCode
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x = 14, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
3o$obo$obo$7b2obo$7b2ob3o$13bo$7b2ob3o$8bobo$8bobo$9bo!
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x = 22, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
2o$2o10$8b3o$8bobo$8bobo$15b2obo$15b2ob3o$21bo$15b2ob3o$16bobo$16bobo
$17bo!
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x = 23, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
9b3o$9bobo$9bobo$16b2obo$16b2ob3o$22bo$2o14b2ob3o$2o15bobo$17bobo$18bo!
Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits
Posted: February 3rd, 2021, 1:25 am
by Jormungant
The parity had to be off, it was written in the sky. Somehow I have thought otherwise...
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x = 88, y = 87, rule = LifeHistory
6$23.2A$22.B2A2B$23.4B$18.2A4.6B.4B19.2A$17.B2AB2.14B8.2A6.B2AB$18.3B
.16B6.B2AB5.3B$16.2B.B2.18B4.3B7.B$15.27B3.B.2B3.5B$14.18BD10BD10BA4B
$13.19B2D10BD8BABA4B$13.18B2D11B2D7BABA4B$13.30B2D9BA4B$11.2AB4.B.23B
D13B9.2B$10.A.AB8.33B10.4B.2B5.B$10.A12.7B5.2B3.B.13B6.13B.6B.2B$9.2A
9.11B5.AB4.12B7.20B3D$19.12B4.A.A4.13B6.22BD$19.12B4.2A5.12B7.20B3DB$
19.11B13.10B8.23B$19.B3C4B.4B13.8B8.21B$19.2BC4B4.2A16.5B8.15B.4B$19.
2B3C2B4.A17.6B7.2B3.5B.2B3.4B$19.6B6.3A13.7B7.2B4.4B7.2B$18.7B8.A13.
15B4.4B$17.4B.B22.9B.4B13.A$16.4B25.3BD2B2D2B.4B10.3A$16.3B25.5B3D2B
3.4B8.A$14.2AB27.6BD2B5.4B7.2A$13.A.AB27.10B5.4B3.5B$13.A30.9B7.4B2.
3B$12.2A29.11B7.9B7.2A$44.10B8.8B8.A$44.9B10.10B3.B.A.2A$45.8B.2B7.4B
D2B2A2B.B3A2.A$45.10B2A6.2BDBD2B2A3BAB2.2A$42.B2.10B2A6.3B2D7B4A$41.
2AB.8B.2B5.2AB.7B3.2B.A$41.2A11B6.A.AB.7B2.B3A$42.B.10B6.A5.4B4.A$46.
3BD3B6.2A5.4B5.5A$44.5BD4B11.4B10.A$44.2A2.BD4B2A8.4B9.A$45.A3.5BA.A
6.4B10.2A$42.3A3.4B4.A5.4B$42.A4.7B2.2A3.4B$47.7B6.4B$47.4BA4B3.4B$
46.4BABA2B3.4B5.2B$44.6BABA2B2.4B5.2B$43.8BA2B2.4B5.4B$43.10B2.4B5.4B
$43.10B.4B5.4B$42.11BA3B5.4B$42.10BA3B5.4B$42.10B.2A5.4B$42.12B5.4B$
42.11B5.4B$40.12B5.4B$36.B2.14B3.4B$35.19B.4B$34.24B$34.7B2A14B$33.8B
2A16B$33.26B$33.24B.B2A$33.21B4.BA.A$32.22B7.A$32.20B9.2A$30.2A19B$
25.2A2.A2BA4.14B$25.A3.BABA4.13B$22.2A.A.4BA5.9B.B.B2A$23.A.A.2AB7.8B
4.BA.A$22.A2.A.BAB9.3B10.A$22.2A2.A4.A20.2A$27.5A2$26.A.2A$26.2A.A!
well, the nice clearance about this b-to-p is somehow compromised... defeating the purpose I suppose.
Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits
Posted: February 3rd, 2021, 9:42 am
by MathAndCode
Jormungant wrote: February 3rd, 2021, 1:25 am
The parity had to be off, it was written in the sky. Somehow I have thought otherwise...
Here's my attempt. Unfortunately, there is not enough room for one of the fishhooks.
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x = 115, y = 112, rule = LifeHistory
72.2A$73.A$73.A.AB$74.2AB$76.6B14.2B$76.4BC2B2.6B4.4B.2B5.B$75.3B3C23B
.6B.2B$72.AB.4BC31B3D$71.A.A39BD$72.A2B.35B3DB$73.B.39B$74.38B$73.33B
.4B$72.21B3.5B.2B3.4B$71.4B2.16B4.4B7.2B$70.4B3.15B3.5B$69.4B2.9B.3B7.
2A$68.4B3.10B11.A$67.4B3.10B9.3A$67.3B4.9B10.A$67.2B5.10B$67.B6.9B$73.
11B$74.10B$74.9B$75.8B.2B$75.10B2A$72.B2.10B2A$71.2AB.8B.2B$71.2A11B$
72.B.10B$76.7B$74.4B3D3B$74.2A2.6B2A$75.A3.5BA.A$72.3A3.4B4.A$67.2A3.
A4.6B3.2A$67.2AB7.7B$67.3B6.9B$67.2B8.9B$67.3B7.10B$50.4B2.14B6.12B$52.
3B.15B4.9B.4B$50.21B2.4B2A3B4.4B$48.28BA2BA2B5.3B$47.30B2A2B7.4B$47.33B
10.2A$48.34B8.A$49.26B5.2A9.3A$43.2A4.27B4.A12.A$43.A3.30B4.3A$45.A.2A
.28B5.A$44.2AB2A5.20B.4B$47.B10.15B3.4B$44.2A.2A8.15B2A3.4B$45.A.A8.16B
2AB3.4B8.B4.B$45.A.A7.20B4.4B3.B3.3B.2B$46.A7.21B5.7B3.6B$55.18B.B2A4.
6B3.6B$56.17B.BA.A4.5B3.6B$56.5B2A2B.7B4.A5.4B3.6B$58.3B2A2B2.6B4.2A3.
5B3.6B$9.A48.8B2.3B$9.3A10.B34.3B3D2B4.B$12.A8.2B34.4BD3B4.2A$11.2A7.
3B34.2B3D2B6.A$11.5B3.4B34.7B5.A$13.3B2.4B36.6B5.2A$3.2A7.9B37.6B$3.A
8.8B39.5B$2A.A.B3.10B40.6B$A2.3AB.2B2A7B39.6B$.2A2.BA3B2A7B$3.4A12B46.
2B$3.A.2B3.7B.B2A44.2B$4.3AB2.7B.BA.A43.2B$7.A3.5B5.A43.2B$2.5A5.4B5.
2A42.2B$2.A10.4B$4.A9.4B$3.2A10.4B$16.4B2.B36.2A$3.4A10.4B29.2A7.2A$3.
A2B.A9.6B28.A$4.B.2A5.10B28.A.A$46.2A4.2A$47.A20.2A$47.A.A18.A$37.A10.
2A16.A.A$35.3A28.2A$28.B5.A$19.2A5.4B4.2A$19.A7.9B$20.3A5.6B$23.A5.6B
3.B2.2B$20.2AB.A4.16B.B.D$19.A2.2AB3.16B4.D.D$19.2A2.14B2A6B3.3D$24.13B
2A5B6.D$25.22B8.B$25.17B.B16.2A$26.15B19.2A2.2A$26.15B5.A3.2A12.A.A$27.
13B5.A.A3.A14.A$29.13B2.A.A3.A15.2A$28.8B4.2A.A.A3.A$28.6B6.2ABA2.4A.
A$28.5B8.B2.A.A3.A.A$28.B.B9.2A.2A2.A2.A.A$29.3B9.A.A2.2A3.A$28.B2AB9.
A.A$29.2A11.A!
Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits
Posted: February 3rd, 2021, 11:37 am
by Jormungant
I would have preferred the left one, but the parity god hates me lately:
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x = 253, y = 132, rule = LifeHistory
12$197.2A$198.A$198.A.AB$199.2AB$201.6B14.2B$201.4BC2B2.6B4.4B.2B5.B$
200.3B3C23B.6B.2B$197.AB.4BC31B3D$196.A.A39BD$197.A2B.35B3DB$198.B.
39B$199.38B$198.33B.4B$197.21B3.5B.2B3.4B$196.4B2.16B4.4B7.2B$195.4B
3.15B3.5B$194.4B2.9B.3B7.2A$193.4B3.10B11.A$192.4B3.10B9.3A$191.4B4.
9B10.A$190.4B5.10B$51.2A136.4B6.9B$52.A135.4B6.11B$52.A.AB131.4B8.10B
$53.2AB131.3B9.9B$55.6B14.2B110.3B10.8B.2B$55.4BC2B2.6B4.4B.2B5.B100.
3B10.10B2A$54.3B3C23B.6B.2B104.B2.10B2A$51.AB.4BC31B3D103.2AB.8B.2B$
50.A.A39BD103.2A11B$51.A2B.35B3DB103.B.10B$52.B.39B108.3B.4B$53.38B
108.4B3D5B$52.33B.4B109.2C2.B.4B2C$51.21B3.5B.2B3.4B110.C2.B3D2BC.C$
50.4B2.16B4.4B7.2B108.3C3.2BDB4.C$49.4B3.15B3.5B118.C4.3B3D3.2C$48.4B
2.9B.3B7.2A126.7B$47.4B3.10B11.A126.9B$46.4B3.10B9.3A128.9B$45.4B4.9B
10.A130.5B$44.4B5.10B139.B6.2B$43.4B6.9B140.B5.2B2C$42.4B6.11B139.B5.
2B2C$41.4B8.10B139.B7.2B$41.3B9.9B140.6B$41.3B10.8B.2B137.7B.B$41.3B
10.10B2A135.11B$51.B2.10B2A136.8B.2B$50.2AB.8B.2B136.9B$50.2A11B122.
2A14.9B$51.B.10B123.A14.10B$55.3B.4B123.A.AB.3B7.5B2A3B$53.4B3D5B122.
2AB.5B5.5B2A4B$53.2C2.B.4B2C124.7B5.11B$54.C2.B3D2BC.C123.8B4.4BD7BA.
2A$51.3C3.2BDB4.C88.3B31.10B5.B3D4B2.2A.A$51.C4.3B3D3.2C72.A13.4B29.
11B4.2BD2B2D2B$56.7B76.3A10.4B30.13B2.8B$56.9B77.A8.4B30.16B2.6B.BA$
25.3B29.9B75.2A7.4B30.18B.7BA.A$10.A13.4B29.5B79.5B3.4B30.27B.2A$10.
3A10.4B29.B6.2B78.3B2.4B30.27B$13.A8.4B30.B5.2B2C67.2A7.9B30.28B$12.
2A7.4B31.B5.2B2C67.A8.8B32.28B$12.5B3.4B32.B7.2B64.2A.A.B3.10B33.27B
2.BA$14.3B2.4B33.6B68.A2.3AB.2B2A2BD4B32.30BA.A$4.2A7.9B34.7B.B66.2A
2.BA3B2A2BDBD2B32.31BA$4.A8.8B34.11B67.4A7B2D3B32.29B.B$.2A.A.B3.10B
36.8B.2B66.A.2B3.7B.B2A31.26B$.A2.3AB.2B2A2BD4B35.9B70.3AB2.7B.BA.A
30.25B$2.2A2.BA3B2A2BDBD2B35.9B73.A4.4B5.A30.22B$4.4A7B2D3B35.10B67.
5A5.4B5.2A29.12B.4B$4.A.2B3.7B.B2A33.5B2A3B67.A10.4B35.10B5.B$5.3AB2.
7B.BA.A26.A5.5B2A4B68.A9.4B34.10B4.3B$8.A4.4B5.A26.3A3.11B67.2A10.4B
32.10B5.B2AB$3.5A5.4B5.2A16.A11.A2.4BD7BA.2A75.4B31.10B6.2A$3.A10.4B
22.3A8.2A4.B3D4B2.2A.A102.2A6.10B$5.A9.4B24.A7.6BD2B2D2B110.A7.9B$4.
2A10.4B10.A11.2A3.B5.10B111.A.AB4.9B.2B$17.4B7.3A11.8B2.11B101.A10.2A
B.14B2A$18.4B5.A16.19B88.4B7.3A11.17B2A$12.2A5.4B4.2A15.20B2A86.4B5.A
15.14B.2B$12.A7.9B14.21B2A80.2A5.4B4.2A15.13B$13.3A5.6B14.25B80.A7.9B
14.14B.2B$16.A5.6B3.B2.2B3.25B83.3A5.6B14.18B2A$13.2AB.A4.16B.2BD14B
4.4B86.A5.6B3.B2.2B3.18B.B2A$12.A2.2AB3.16B.3BDBD4B.6B6.B.B2A.A79.2AB
.A4.16B.2BD15B2.B$12.2A2.14B2A6B.2B3D4B2.B.5B6.B2AB3A76.A2.2AB3.16B.
3BDBD4B.8B$17.13B2A5B.5BD4B7.2A8.B4.A75.2A2.14B2A6B.2B3D4B2.7B$18.29B
8.A8.2A.3A81.13B2A5B.5BD4B2.7B$18.17B.4B16.3A4.A2.2A84.29B3.7B$19.15B
24.A4.2A87.17B.4B11.7B$19.15B5.A3.2A108.15B.4B12.7B$20.13B5.A.A3.A
108.19B.A3.2A6.6B$22.13B2.A.A3.A110.17B.A.A3.A7.5B$21.8B4.2A.A.A3.A
113.14B.A.A3.A7.5B$21.6B6.2ABA2.4A.A110.8B4.2A.A.A3.A8.5B$21.5B8.B2.A
.A3.A.A109.6B6.2ABA2.4A.A8.B.B$21.B.B9.2A.2A2.A2.A.A109.5B8.B2.A.A3.A
.A6.3B$22.3B9.A.A2.2A3.A110.B.B9.2A.2A2.A2.A.A6.B2AB$21.B2AB9.A.A119.
3B9.A.A2.2A3.A8.2A$22.2A11.A119.B2AB9.A.A$156.2A11.A!
Note that this spark only works adding a block to that specific b-to-h, I would have preferred a spark from a g-to-X or glider activated factory, but was not so lucky as far as I can tell. But it works at least.
addendum: parity god wrath strikes again...
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x = 96, y = 109, rule = LifeHistory
12$40.2A$41.A$41.A.AB$42.2AB$44.6B14.2B$44.4BC2B2.6B4.4B.2B5.B$43.3B
3C23B.6B.2B$40.AB.4BC31B3D$39.A.A39BD$40.A2B.35B3DB$41.B.39B$42.38B$
41.33B.4B$40.21B3.5B.2B3.4B$39.4B2.16B4.4B7.2B$38.4B3.15B3.5B$37.4B2.
9B.3B7.2A$36.4B3.10B11.A$35.4B3.10B9.3A$20.A13.4B4.9B10.A$20.3A10.4B
5.10B$23.A8.4B6.9B$22.2A7.4B6.11B$22.5B3.4B8.10B$24.3B2.4B9.9B$14.2A
7.10B10.8B.2B$14.A8.10B10.10B2A$11.2A.A.B3.10B10.B2.10B2A$11.A2.3AB.
2B2A2BD4B9.2AB.8B.2B$12.2A2.BA3B2A2BDBD2B9.2A11B$14.4A7B2D3B10.B.10B$
14.A.2B3.7B.B2A12.3B.4B$15.3AB2.7B.BA.A9.4B3D5B$18.A4.4B5.A9.2C2.B.4B
2C$13.5A5.4B5.2A9.C2.B3D2BC.C$13.A10.4B12.3C3.2BDB4.C$15.A9.4B11.C4.
3B3D3.2C$14.2A10.4B15.7B$27.4B14.9B$28.4B14.9B$29.4B13.5B$30.4B11.B6.
2B$31.4B10.B5.2B2C$32.4B9.B5.2B2C$33.4B8.B7.2B$34.4B7.6B$45.7B.B$38.
2B4.11B$37.4B4.8B.2B$38.4B2.9B$39.4B.9B$40.14B$41.8B2A3B$38.B3.7B2A4B
$38.B4.12B$38.2B4.4BD7BA.2A$38.3B4.2B3D4B2.2A.A$38.2B4.2BD2B2D2B$38.
4B2.8B10.A$38.6B2.6B8.3A$38.7B.7B6.A$37.2A15B5.2A$38.A6.16B$38.A.AB2.
17B$29.2A.A6.2AB.19B$29.A.2A8.22B$41.22B$30.5A6.18BD3B$25.2A2.A4.A6.
16BDBD2B2A$25.A2.A.BAB9.16B2D2B2A$26.A.A.2AB9.23B$25.2A.A.4BA7.23B$
28.A3.BABA.2B4.22B$28.2A2.A2BA29B$33.2A30B$34.34B.B$33.34B.B2A$33.36B
2A$34.33B.2B$34.33B$30.2A3.31B$30.A2.B.6B.15B3.4B$31.3A6B5.8B2A2B4.3B
$33.AB.3B6.4B2.2B2AB3.7B$31.2A3.2B13.5B3.2A.B.2A$31.A3.B2AB14.2B5.A3.
A$29.A.A4.2A19.3A5.3A$29.2A26.A9.A!
Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits
Posted: February 3rd, 2021, 11:51 am
by MathAndCode
Jormungant wrote: February 3rd, 2021, 11:37 amI would have preferred the left one, but the parity god hates me lately:
I ran into the same problem.
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x = 75, y = 96, rule = LifeHistory
3$30.2A$31.A$31.A.AB$32.2AB$34.6B14.2B$34.4BC2B2.6B4.4B.2B5.B$33.3B3C
23B.6B.2B$30.AB.4BC31B3D$29.A.A39BD$30.A2B.35B3DB$31.B.39B$32.38B$31.
33B.4B$30.21B3.5B.2B3.4B$29.4B2.16B4.4B7.2B$28.4B3.15B3.5B$27.4B2.9B.
3B7.2A$26.4B3.10B11.A$25.4B3.10B9.3A$10.A13.4B4.9B10.A$10.3A10.4B5.
10B$13.A8.4B6.9B$12.2A7.4B6.11B$12.5B3.4B8.10B$14.3B2.5B8.9B$4.2A7.
11B9.8B.2B$4.A8.8B12.10B2A$.2A.A.B3.10B10.B2.10B2A$.A2.3AB.2B2A2BD4B
9.2AB.8B.2B$2.2A2.BA3B2A2BDBD2B9.2A11B$4.4A7B2D3B10.B.10B$4.A.2B3.7B.
B2A12.3B.4B$5.3AB2.7B.BA.A9.4B3D5B$8.A4.4B5.A9.2C2.B.4B2C$3.5A5.4B5.
2A9.C2.B3D2BC.C$3.A10.4B12.3C3.2BDB4.C$5.A9.4B11.C4.3B3D3.2C$4.2A10.
4B15.7B$17.4B14.9B$36.9B$36.5B$35.B6.2B$35.B5.2B2C$35.B5.2B2C$35.B7.
2B$35.6B$35.7B.B$28.2B4.11B$27.4B4.8B.2B$28.4B2.9B$29.4B.9B$30.14B$
31.8B2A3B$32.7B2A4B$33.12B$29.B4.4BD7BA.2A$29.2B4.2B3D4B2.2A.A$29.B4.
2BD2B2D2B$29.3B2.8B10.A$36.6B8.3A$36.7B6.A$27.2A7.8B5.2A$28.A6.16B$
28.A.AB2.17B$19.2A.A6.2AB.19B$19.A.2A8.22B$31.22B$20.5A6.22B$15.2A2.A
4.A6.21B2E$15.A2.A.BAB9.20B2E$16.A.A.2AB9.23B$15.2A.A.4BA7.23B$18.A3.
BABA.2B4.22B$18.2A2.A2BA29B$23.2A30B$24.34B.B$23.34B.B2A$23.36B2A$24.
33B.2B$24.33B$20.2A3.31B$20.A2.B.6B.15B3.4B$21.3A6B5.8B2E2B4.3B$23.AB
.3B6.4B2.2B2EB3.7B$21.2A3.2B13.5B3.2A.B.2A$21.A3.B2AB14.2B5.A3.A$19.A
.A4.2A19.3A5.3A$19.2A26.A9.A!
Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits
Posted: February 3rd, 2021, 3:34 pm
by MathAndCode
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x = 15, y = 24, rule = B3/S23
6bo$4b3o$3bo$3b2o2$2o$obo$b2o7$7b2o$8b2o$9b2o4$6b2o3b2o$7bo3bo$4b3o5b
3o$4bo9bo!
Edit: Here's a way to turn it into a B-sequence and junk that I haven't figured out how to suppress:
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x = 26, y = 46, rule = LifeHistory
14.D$13.3D$12.2D2.D7$21.2A$21.2A3$22.2A$22.A$23.3A$25.A6$6.A$4.3A$3.A
$3.2A2$2A$A.A$.2A7$7.2C$8.2C$9.2C4$6.2A3.2A$7.A3.A$4.3A5.3A$4.A9.A!
Another edit: Here's a way to turn it into an R-sequence:
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x = 15, y = 41, rule = B3/S23
12b2o$12b2o$6b2o$7bo$7bobo$8b2o12$6bo$4b3o$3bo$3b2o2$2o$obo$b2o7$7b2o
$8b2o$9b2o4$6b2o3b2o$7bo3bo$4b3o5b3o$4bo9bo!
Yet another edit: Here's an alternative method:
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x = 15, y = 39, rule = B3/S23
10b2o$11bo$11bob2o$12bobo12$6bo$4b3o$3bo$3b2o2$2o$obo$b2o7$7b2o$8b2o$
9b2o4$6b2o3b2o$7bo3bo$4b3o5b3o$4bo9bo!
Fourth edit: Here's a third method:
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x = 15, y = 39, rule = B3/S23
2$6b2o$7bo$7bobo$8b2o10$6bo$4b3o$3bo$3b2o2$2o$obo$b2o7$7b2o$8b2o$9b2o
4$6b2o3b2o$7bo3bo$4b3o5b3o$4bo9bo!
Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits
Posted: February 12th, 2021, 4:24 pm
by MathAndCode
Here's a chaos edgeshooting-reaction that starts with the standard transparent block for a typical dependent Herschel-accepting conduit:
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x = 18, y = 37, rule = B3/S23
14bob2o$14b3o$15bo10$15b2o$15b2o15$2o$2o4$9b2o$10bo$7b3o$7bo!
Edit: While trying to clean up a pi-making conduit, I found a natural fishhook.
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x = 25, y = 50, rule = B3/S23
14bob2o$14b3o$15bo10$15b2o$15b2o15$2o$2o4$9b2o$10bo$7b3o$7bo3$17b2o$17b
2o7$23b2o$22bobo$22b2o!
Another edit: This would be even better if someone could find an appropriate weld.
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x = 26, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
ob2o$3o$bo10$b2o$b2o4$19b2o$19bo$17bobo$17b2o2bo$20bobo$20bobo$19b2ob
3o$25bo$19b2ob3o$19b2obo!
Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits
Posted: February 12th, 2021, 6:23 pm
by praosylen
MathAndCode wrote: February 12th, 2021, 4:24 pmAnother edit: This would be even better if someone could find an appropriate weld.
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x = 26, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
ob2o$3o$bo10$b2o$b2o4$19b2o$19bo$17bobo$17b2o2bo$20bobo$20bobo$19b2ob
3o$25bo$19b2ob3o$19b2obo!
Just add a cell:
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x = 68, y = 47, rule = B3/S23
20$ob2o$3o$bo10$b2o$b2o4$19b2o$19bo$17bobo$17b2ob2o$20bobo$20bobo$19b
2ob3o$25bo$19b2ob3o$19b2obo!
Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits
Posted: February 12th, 2021, 6:45 pm
by MathAndCode
A for awesome wrote: February 12th, 2021, 6:23 pmJust add a cell:
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x = 68, y = 47, rule = B3/S23
20$ob2o$3o$bo10$b2o$b2o4$19b2o$19bo$17bobo$17b2ob2o$20bobo$20bobo$19b
2ob3o$25bo$19b2ob3o$19b2obo!
How did I not see that? It's not just that the solution is simple—I tend to overthink things a lot—but
I've seen it before. That being said, knowing how well I've done in the past at welds and reductions, I really shouldn't be surprised. Anyway, here's a H->J+S that uses the weld:
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x = 32, y = 53, rule = LifeHistory
.A.2A$.3A$2.A6$3D$2.D$.3D2$2.2E$2.2E4$20.2A$20.A$18.A.A$18.2A.2A$21.A
.A$21.A.A$20.2A.3A$26.A$20.2A.3A$20.2A.A9$19.D$19.2D$7.2D11.2D$7.2D12.
D$6.D$6.D$6.D5$24.2A.A$24.2A.3A$30.A$24.2A.3A$25.A.A$25.A.A$26.A!
Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits
Posted: February 12th, 2021, 6:59 pm
by Jormungant
that can go on for quite a while, seems likely something more would come out?
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x = 54, y = 72, rule = LifeHistory
11$20.A.2A$20.3A$21.A10$21.2A$21.2A4$15.16B8.2A$16.15B8.A$17.13B6.BA.
A$18.17B.B2A.2A$15.22B3.A.A$15.22B3.A.A$15.22B2.2A.3A$15.21B4.B4.A$
15.22B.B2AB3A$15.24B2A.A$15.24B$15.24B$15.24B$15.22B$15.23B$16.22B$
16.2B.21B$21.20B$22.19B$23.18B$24.17B$23.B.16B$20.B.19B$19.2A20B$19.
2AB.18B$20.B2.18B$24.17B$25.2B3.11B$38.3B$38.3B$38.3B$38.8B$39.7B$40.
B3.2A$44.A$45.3A$47.A!
Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits
Posted: February 12th, 2021, 7:08 pm
by MathAndCode
MathAndCode wrote: February 12th, 2021, 6:45 pmHere's a H->J+S that uses the weld:
I have updated my draft of the Elementary Conduits Collection update.
Edit: Here's a near-miss H->R+3G (which I think would be Spartan):
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x = 56, y = 56, rule = LifeHistory
B30.2B19.4B$2B28.4B17.4B$3B27.5B15.4B$4B25.BAB2AB14.4B$.4B23.2B3A.B13.
4B$2.4B22.3BA2B13.4B$3.4B22.6B11.4B$4.4B21.5B11.4B$5.4B19.6B10.4B$6.4B
18.6B9.4B$7.4B16.7B8.4B$8.4B15.2B3D2B7.4B$9.4B14.4BD3B5.4B$10.4B13.3B
3D2B4.4B$11.4B13.8B2.4B$12.4B12.3B2E2B2.4B$13.4B9.5B2E2B.4B$14.4B8.13B
$15.4B6.16B$16.4B4.17B$17.4B4.16B8.2A$18.4B4.15B8.A$19.4B4.13B6.BA.A$
20.4B4.17B.B2A.2A$21.26B3.A.A$21.26B3.A.A$19.28B2.2A.3A$19.27B4.B4.A$
19.28B.B2AB3A$20.29B2A.A$19.30B$18.31B$17.4B.27B$16.4B5.22B$15.4B6.23B
$14.4B8.22B$13.4B9.2B.20B$12.4B15.17BDB$11.4B17.16B2DB$10.4B19.14B2DB
$9.4B21.17B$8.4B24.16B$7.4B25.17B$6.4B26.18B$5.4B27.17B$4.4B26.2AB.14B
$3.4B26.A.AB.14B$2.4B27.A6.11B$.4B27.2A11.6B$4B40.5B$3B41.5B$2B43.BA$
B42.A.A.A$41.3A.2A.A$40.A7.A$40.2A6.2A!
Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits
Posted: February 12th, 2021, 9:26 pm
by Sphenocorona
Well, at the bare minimum (as far as non-exotic conduits go) this gives a nice H->2G with a new glider output, NE8T101 (known lane, new timing):
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x = 47, y = 59, rule = LifeHistory
D3.D.5D2.3D2.5D3.D4.3D4.D$2D2.D.D5.D3.D3.D4.2D3.D3.D2.2D$D.D.D.D5.D3.
D3.D5.D3.D2.2D3.D$D2.2D.3D4.3D4.D5.D3.D.D.D3.D$D3.D.D5.D3.D3.D5.D3.2D
2.D3.D$D3.D.D5.D3.D3.D5.D3.D3.D3.D$D3.D.5D2.3D4.D4.3D3.3D3.3D4$.3D2.D
3.D3.D4.3D2.5D3.D4.3D3.3D$D3.D.D3.D2.2D3.D3.D3.D4.2D3.D3.D.D3.D$D5.D
3.D3.D3.D2.2D3.D5.D3.D2.2D.D3.D$.3D2.D.D.D3.D3.D.D.D3.D5.D3.D.D.D2.3D
$4.D.D.D.D3.D3.2D2.D3.D5.D3.2D2.D.D3.D$D3.D.2D.2D3.D3.D3.D3.D5.D3.D3.
D.D3.D$.3D2.D3.D2.3D3.3D4.D4.3D3.3D3.3D3$26.4B$25.4B$24.4B$19.3B.4B$
19.7B$18.7B$18.8B$18.8B$12.B4.9B$11.3B3.11B$9.6B2.13B$3.4B2.7B.13B$3.
26B$B2C27B$3CB2C24B$.2CB3CB2A21B$3CB2C2B2A22B3.B$2CB2.28B.B2A$5.30B2A
$7.B2.24B.B$9.24B$8.24B$7.25B$6.4B.21B$5.4B2.4B.17B$4.4B8.17B.B$3.4B
9.18B2A$2.4B10.16B.B2A$.4B11.16B2.B$4B13.14B$3B12.5B.6B2.2B$2B13.2A5.
4B$B15.A4.5B$13.3A3.A.2A$13.A2.4AB2A$16.A4.B$17.3A.2A$19.A.A$19.A.A$
20.A!
Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits
Posted: February 12th, 2021, 11:09 pm
by Entity Valkyrie 2
[non-notable]
I reduced it by... 1 cell:
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x = 37, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
b2o$3ob2o$b2ob3ob2o$3ob2o2b2o$2o33b2o$35b2o8$34b2o$34b2o4$15b2o$16bo$
13b3o3bob2o$13bo2b4ob2o$16bo$18b2ob2o$19bobo$19bobo$20bo!
[/non-notable]
Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits
Posted: February 13th, 2021, 12:37 am
by MathAndCode
I have added Sphenocorona's new H->2G to the Elementary Conduits Collection update draft and applied Entity Valkyrie 2's weld reduction. Here is the new version:
There's a good chance that someone else will find another conduit based on one of the reactions that I posted before I return. If that's the case (or one spots a missing conduits that was found a while ago), one may add that conduit to the file then post the updated version instead of having to wait for me to return.
Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits
Posted: February 13th, 2021, 10:42 am
by EvinZL
Sphenocorona wrote: February 12th, 2021, 9:26 pm
Well, at the bare minimum (as far as non-exotic conduits go) this gives a nice H->2G with a new glider output, NE8T101 (known lane, new timing):
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x = 47, y = 59, rule = LifeHistory
D3.D.5D2.3D2.5D3.D4.3D4.D$2D2.D.D5.D3.D3.D4.2D3.D3.D2.2D$D.D.D.D5.D3.
D3.D5.D3.D2.2D3.D$D2.2D.3D4.3D4.D5.D3.D.D.D3.D$D3.D.D5.D3.D3.D5.D3.2D
2.D3.D$D3.D.D5.D3.D3.D5.D3.D3.D3.D$D3.D.5D2.3D4.D4.3D3.3D3.3D4$.3D2.D
3.D3.D4.3D2.5D3.D4.3D3.3D$D3.D.D3.D2.2D3.D3.D3.D4.2D3.D3.D.D3.D$D5.D
3.D3.D3.D2.2D3.D5.D3.D2.2D.D3.D$.3D2.D.D.D3.D3.D.D.D3.D5.D3.D.D.D2.3D
$4.D.D.D.D3.D3.2D2.D3.D5.D3.2D2.D.D3.D$D3.D.2D.2D3.D3.D3.D3.D5.D3.D3.
D.D3.D$.3D2.D3.D2.3D3.3D4.D4.3D3.3D3.3D3$26.4B$25.4B$24.4B$19.3B.4B$
19.7B$18.7B$18.8B$18.8B$12.B4.9B$11.3B3.11B$9.6B2.13B$3.4B2.7B.13B$3.
26B$B2C27B$3CB2C24B$.2CB3CB2A21B$3CB2C2B2A22B3.B$2CB2.28B.B2A$5.30B2A
$7.B2.24B.B$9.24B$8.24B$7.25B$6.4B.21B$5.4B2.4B.17B$4.4B8.17B.B$3.4B
9.18B2A$2.4B10.16B.B2A$.4B11.16B2.B$4B13.14B$3B12.5B.6B2.2B$2B13.2A5.
4B$B15.A4.5B$13.3A3.A.2A$13.A2.4AB2A$16.A4.B$17.3A.2A$19.A.A$19.A.A$
20.A!
It appears to be a slight modification of the periodic H-to-3G in the P1152 gunstar
here (Coincidentally, I discovered it a few weeks ago by trivially modifying that H-to-3G and assumed it was known)
Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits
Posted: February 13th, 2021, 12:59 pm
by Jormungant
Move that block and that's a stable circuit:
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x = 77, y = 55, rule = LifeHistory
7$9.10B30.C$9.9B30.C.C$9.10B30.C$9.11B$10.2BA7B27.5C$11.2B2A5B22.2C2.
C4.C11.C$12.2A6B22.C2.C.BCB5.5B.3C$13.7B23.C.C.2CB7.3BC$14.5B23.2C.C.
4BC4.4B2C$15.4B26.C3.BCBC3.6B$16.4B25.2C2.C2BC2.7B$17.4B22.2C5.2C10B$
18.4B22.C7.10B3.2C$19.4B21.C.CB4.9B4.C$20.4B10.A10.2C14B.BC.C$21.4B7.
3A12.14B.B2C$22.4B5.A15.16B$23.4B4.2A15.3B9.2B$16.2A6.9B14.4B9.3B$17.
A7.6B14.6B9.3B$17.A.2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.9B9.2B$18.A2.A4.19BD5B9.3B$19.2AB
3.20BDBD3B9.4B$20.14B2A9B3D4B2.11B$21.13B2A11BD4B2.16B$22.29B4.15B$
22.17B.4B10.16B$23.15B2.3B12.15B$23.15B3.3B11.15B$24.13B5.A2B.2A7.11B
$26.13B2.A.A2B.A6.13B$25.8B4.2A.A.AB2.A7.12B$25.6B6.2ABA4.A7.14B$25.
5B8.B2.5A.A6.5B$25.B.B8.A.2A.A4.2A2.9B$26.3B5.3A.A2.A.2A5.9B$25.B2AB
4.A4.A.2A.A5.2A3B2A3B$26.2A6.3A.A2.A2.A4.2A3B2A3B$36.A.2A2.2A6.B.7B$
49.B2.7B$51.B2.5B$51.8B$51.B2C.2D$51.B2C.2D!
A renegade spark disallows the mirrored (by rotation) circuit to put it back there, but maybe something else does? (fair clearance I say).
here is an example of something that does not work ^^:
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x = 61, y = 35, rule = LifeHistory
6$42.2A$41.B2AB3$17.2D20.B$13.4B2D19.9B$12.9B16.11B$11.11B15.10B$11.
10B15.4B2CB2D$10.4B2CB2D17.4B2CB2D$10.4B2CB2D17.9B$10.9B17.4BC6B$10.
4BC6B10.A4.3B2C7B$5.A4.3B2C7B9.3A3.2BCBC5B$5.3A3.2BCBC5B13.A2.8B$8.A
2.8B14.A2.AB.7B$7.A2.AB.7B13.4A8B$7.4A8B18.2B.4B$11.2B.4B17.2AB$9.2AB
23.A$9.A22.2A.A$6.2A.A22.2A.2A$6.2A.2A!
Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits
Posted: February 13th, 2021, 3:10 pm
by MathAndCode
Here's another chaos-edgeshooting reaction that I found that starts with a dove:
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x = 41, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
2o$bo$bobo$2b2o5$16b3o$15bo2bo$14bo2bo$15b2o22b2o$39b2o4$31b2o$31bo$32b3o$34bo!
Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits
Posted: February 13th, 2021, 5:19 pm
by Jormungant
MathAndCode wrote: February 13th, 2021, 3:10 pm
Here's another chaos-edgeshooting reaction that I found that starts with a dove:
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x = 41, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
2o$bo$bobo$2b2o5$16b3o$15bo2bo$14bo2bo$15b2o22b2o$39b2o4$31b2o$31bo$32b3o$34bo!
I this one could have been posted in the still-life factory thread instead, it is best when only 1 still life is produced, but the clearance is quite good, so it should not matter. Maybe some stop-restart circuit could use that edgy pond.
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x = 149, y = 161, rule = LifeHistory
11$103.A.A$103.2A$104.A15$12.A.A$13.2A$13.A68$16.2A$17.A$17.A.A$18.2A
5$32.3A$31.A2.A$30.A2.A$31.2A22.2A$55.2A4$47.2A$47.A16.2A$48.3A14.A$
50.A14.A.A$66.2A5$80.3A$79.A2.A$78.A2.A$79.2A22.2A$103.2A4$95.2A$95.A
$96.3A$98.A!
Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits
Posted: February 13th, 2021, 9:33 pm
by MathAndCode
Can anyone suppress the beehive?
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x = 45, y = 37, rule = B3/S23
14bob2o$14b3o$15bo10$15b2o$15b2o5$34bo$32b3o$31bo$31b2o4$38bo$38bo$38b
o$2o$2o4$9b2o31b2o$10bo31bobo$7b3o33b2o$7bo!
Doing so would yield a H->2G.
Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits
Posted: February 19th, 2021, 3:43 pm
by MathAndCode
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x = 17, y = 18, rule = LifeHistory
12.A$11.A.A$12.A6$2C$.2C$2.2C$13.2A$13.A.A$15.A$15.2A2$.2A$.2A!
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x = 15, y = 14, rule = LifeHistory
2A$.A$.A.A3.2A$2.2A3.2A6$13.2A$.2A10.2A$.2A4.C$6.3C$6.C.2C!
Re: Thread for your chaos-edgeshooting reactions that can probably yield new conduits
Posted: April 18th, 2021, 7:01 pm
by MathAndCode
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x = 24, y = 18, rule = LifeHistory
22.2A$22.2A4$C$C.C$3C$2.C6$9.2A$10.A$7.3A$7.A!