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Posted: **August 25th, 2024, 1:24 pm**

unname4798 wrote: August 24th, 2024, 12:44 pm
tommyaweosme wrote: August 24th, 2024, 12:41 pm a typewriter will be made in stickyboxes (or stickyR2) by 2027
A typewriter from StickyBoxes will be ported to Sticky in 2028.

how exactly would you go across converting something like this

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x = 42, y = 42, rule = stickyBoxes-update
37.B$37.C4$37.B$37.C4$37.B$37.C3$39.B$39.C4$39.B$39.C4$39.B$39.C3$41.
B$41.C4$41.B$41.C3$BC30.BC$41.B$3.BC14.BC14.BC4.C2$6.BC14.BC14.BC!

into sticky?

Posted: **August 28th, 2024, 8:48 am**

The number of gliders required for the RCT and the cellular network generation will meet at 12G.

Posted: **August 31st, 2024, 4:41 pm**

Saka wrote: July 31st, 2017, 9:29 am -We will get a knightship in CGoL by 2040
-A 50c ship will be found in LTL by 2019, assuming people keep exploring
-A new speed will be discovered by 2019
-Someone will make an LTL sesrch program by the end of this year
-I will say hi.

Hi.

1: Happened in 2017 [Sir Robin, Sprayer, Knightwave Ship]
2: Did happen, just search.
3: (34,7)c/156 spaceship, Camelship, 1746011c/8916896d, and 436513c/2215479 and below for ANY diagonal speed.
4: not that I know of.
5: hi!

Anyways I predict a small c/9o is found in 2025-2026.

Posted: **September 2nd, 2024, 4:23 am**

hotdogPi wrote: April 17th, 2022, 8:15 am If we don't know of a 4-glider synthesis, it probably doesn't exist.

Intepreting your post as "An object does not exist if we don't know of a 4-glider synthesis for it", Gardens of eden do not exist. This countradicts the garden of eden theory, and as both grin and pre-block evolve to block, and thus there are an infinite number of 4-glider collisions. The other conclusion (finite number of objects) is obviously wrong, as barge, tub and friends would say.

I predict that 3 is the largest number of gliders for which a finite number of collisions producing distinct and different objects exists.

Posted: **September 2nd, 2024, 6:07 am**

Haycat2009 wrote: September 2nd, 2024, 4:23 am
hotdogPi wrote: April 17th, 2022, 8:15 am If we don't know of a 4-glider synthesis, it probably doesn't exist.
Intepreting your post as "An object does not exist if we don't know of a 4-glider synthesis for it", Gardens of eden do not exist. [...]

I'd argue that that is a major misinterpretation of what was written.

Note the word 'probably' in the original post, and the fact that "it" means "a 4-glider synthesis" (rather than "an object").

Haycat2009 wrote: September 2nd, 2024, 4:23 am [...] This countradicts the garden of eden theory, and as both grin and pre-block evolve to block, and thus there are an infinite number of 4-glider collisions. The other conclusion (finite number of objects) is obviously wrong, as barge, tub and friends would say. [...]

This part is hard to read. Can you explain what you mean here?

Haycat2009 wrote: September 2nd, 2024, 4:23 am [...]
I predict that 3 is the largest number of gliders for which a finite number of collisions producing distinct and different objects exists.

Why "distinct and different"? Is there some nonobvious difference or distinction that's supposed to be captured by writing "distinct and different" instead of either writing just "distinct" or writing just "different"?

Also, what do you mean by an object? With three gliders, it is already possible to create infinitely many distinct target patterns.

Posted: **September 17th, 2024, 7:37 am**

After three and one half years of trying to make money shorting the stock market,

I will finally do so; and Conway's Game of Life will never be the same...

EDIT

Well, it's my birthday; maybe it is a birthday present...

Posted: **October 5th, 2024, 10:59 am**

I predict that this forum thread will be locked, due to a failure to remain Life/CA-related.

Posted: **October 5th, 2024, 1:04 pm**

i predict that by 2030 we will have invented an os for sticky

the first step: making a way-better color scheme

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x = 17, y = 8, rule = sticky
2.B7.A$2.C5.2A.A$.A.5A2.A$A8.3A$.3A3.A8.A$4.A.4A.A$4.A11.A$5.A.A7.A!
[[ COLOR 0 lightgray COLOR 1 darkgray COLOR 2 violet COLOR 3 hotpink ]]

completely differnet, yet better, from traditional sticky

there is also blue theme

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x = 17, y = 8, rule = sticky
2.B7.A$2.C5.2A.A$.A.5A2.A$A8.3A$.3A3.A8.A$4.A.4A.A$4.A11.A$5.A.A7.A!
[[ COLOR 0 lightgray COLOR 1 darkgray COLOR 2 cornflowerblue COLOR 3 blue ]]

green theme

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x = 17, y = 8, rule = sticky
2.B7.A$2.C5.2A.A$.A.5A2.A$A8.3A$.3A3.A8.A$4.A.4A.A$4.A11.A$5.A.A7.A!
[[ COLOR 0 lightgray COLOR 1 darkgray COLOR 2 darkgreen COLOR 3 green ]]

red theme

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x = 17, y = 8, rule = sticky
2.B7.A$2.C5.2A.A$.A.5A2.A$A8.3A$.3A3.A8.A$4.A.4A.A$4.A11.A$5.A.A7.A!
[[ COLOR 0 lightgray COLOR 1 darkgray COLOR 2 firebrick COLOR 3 red ]]

and grayscale theme

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x = 17, y = 8, rule = sticky
2.B7.A$2.C5.2A.A$.A.5A2.A$A8.3A$.3A3.A8.A$4.A.4A.A$4.A11.A$5.A.A7.A!
[[ COLOR 0 white COLOR 1 darkgray COLOR 2 lightgray COLOR 3 gray ]]

along with heaven and hell themes (in order):

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x = 17, y = 8, rule = sticky
2.B7.A$2.C5.2A.A$.A.5A2.A$A8.3A$.3A3.A8.A$4.A.4A.A$4.A11.A$5.A.A7.A!
[[ COLOR 0 deepskyblue COLOR 1 white COLOR 2 dodgerblue COLOR 3 blue ]]

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x = 17, y = 8, rule = sticky
2.B7.A$2.C5.2A.A$.A.5A2.A$A8.3A$.3A3.A8.A$4.A.4A.A$4.A11.A$5.A.A7.A!
[[ COLOR 0 firebrick COLOR 1 black COLOR 2 lightcoral COLOR 3 indianred ]]

what more could you ask for? ask me to generate more sticky themes.

Posted: **October 29th, 2024, 3:17 am**

tommyaweosme wrote: October 5th, 2024, 1:04 pm i predict that by 2030 we will have invented an os for sticky

the first step: making a way-better color scheme

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x = 17, y = 8, rule = sticky
2.B7.A$2.C5.2A.A$.A.5A2.A$A8.3A$.3A3.A8.A$4.A.4A.A$4.A11.A$5.A.A7.A!
[[ COLOR 0 lightgray COLOR 1 darkgray COLOR 2 violet COLOR 3 hotpink ]]

completely differnet, yet better, from traditional sticky

there is also blue theme

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x = 17, y = 8, rule = sticky
2.B7.A$2.C5.2A.A$.A.5A2.A$A8.3A$.3A3.A8.A$4.A.4A.A$4.A11.A$5.A.A7.A!
[[ COLOR 0 lightgray COLOR 1 darkgray COLOR 2 cornflowerblue COLOR 3 blue ]]

green theme

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x = 17, y = 8, rule = sticky
2.B7.A$2.C5.2A.A$.A.5A2.A$A8.3A$.3A3.A8.A$4.A.4A.A$4.A11.A$5.A.A7.A!
[[ COLOR 0 lightgray COLOR 1 darkgray COLOR 2 darkgreen COLOR 3 green ]]

red theme

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x = 17, y = 8, rule = sticky
2.B7.A$2.C5.2A.A$.A.5A2.A$A8.3A$.3A3.A8.A$4.A.4A.A$4.A11.A$5.A.A7.A!
[[ COLOR 0 lightgray COLOR 1 darkgray COLOR 2 firebrick COLOR 3 red ]]

and grayscale theme

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x = 17, y = 8, rule = sticky
2.B7.A$2.C5.2A.A$.A.5A2.A$A8.3A$.3A3.A8.A$4.A.4A.A$4.A11.A$5.A.A7.A!
[[ COLOR 0 white COLOR 1 darkgray COLOR 2 lightgray COLOR 3 gray ]]

along with heaven and hell themes (in order):

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x = 17, y = 8, rule = sticky
2.B7.A$2.C5.2A.A$.A.5A2.A$A8.3A$.3A3.A8.A$4.A.4A.A$4.A11.A$5.A.A7.A!
[[ COLOR 0 deepskyblue COLOR 1 white COLOR 2 dodgerblue COLOR 3 blue ]]

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x = 17, y = 8, rule = sticky
2.B7.A$2.C5.2A.A$.A.5A2.A$A8.3A$.3A3.A8.A$4.A.4A.A$4.A11.A$5.A.A7.A!
[[ COLOR 0 firebrick COLOR 1 black COLOR 2 lightcoral COLOR 3 indianred ]]

what more could you ask for? ask me to generate more sticky themes.

Dark themes:
Pink:

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#R Sticky
2.B7.A$2.C5.2A.A$.A.5A2.A$A8.3A$.3A3.A8.A$4.A.4A.A$4.A11.A$5.A.A7.A!
[[ COLOR 0 black COLOR 1 gray COLOR 2 #FF80FF COLOR 3 #FF66AA ]]

Blue:

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#R Sticky
2.B7.A$2.C5.2A.A$.A.5A2.A$A8.3A$.3A3.A8.A$4.A.4A.A$4.A11.A$5.A.A7.A!
[[ COLOR 0 black COLOR 1 gray COLOR 2 #8080FF COLOR 3 #0000FF ]]

Green:

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#R Sticky
2.B7.A$2.C5.2A.A$.A.5A2.A$A8.3A$.3A3.A8.A$4.A.4A.A$4.A11.A$5.A.A7.A!
[[ COLOR 0 black COLOR 1 gray COLOR 2 #80FF80 COLOR 3 #00C000 ]]

Red:

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#R Sticky
2.B7.A$2.C5.2A.A$.A.5A2.A$A8.3A$.3A3.A8.A$4.A.4A.A$4.A11.A$5.A.A7.A!
[[ COLOR 0 black COLOR 1 gray COLOR 2 #FF8080 COLOR 3 #FF0000 ]]

Yellow:

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#R Sticky
2.B7.A$2.C5.2A.A$.A.5A2.A$A8.3A$.3A3.A8.A$4.A.4A.A$4.A11.A$5.A.A7.A!
[[ COLOR 0 black COLOR 1 gray COLOR 2 #FFFF80 COLOR 3 #C0C000 ]]

Posted: **November 10th, 2024, 9:08 pm**

Precisely 927.2 hours after dxuality releases a UC is completed.

Posted: **November 11th, 2024, 9:40 am**

d/dx wrote: November 10th, 2024, 9:08 pm Precisely 927.2 hours after dxuality releases a UC is completed.

38.5 days.

Posted: **November 14th, 2024, 1:39 pm**

An one-engine cordership will be discovered by 2100.

Posted: **November 14th, 2024, 6:21 pm**

Gustone wrote: November 14th, 2024, 1:39 pm An one-engine cordership will be discovered by 2100.

1-engine corderoids exist in some OCA, particularly some that self-corderize from a bare engine.

Posted: **November 14th, 2024, 6:34 pm**

Gustone wrote: November 14th, 2024, 1:39 pm An one-engine cordership will be discovered by 2100.

I assume this is a prediction about Conway's Life?
Otherwise here is an one-engine Cordership (the switch engine remains "essentially the same", although its evolution is "slightly" adjusted by evolving it in a range-2 cellular automaton instead of CGoL):

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x = 30, y = 28, rule = R2,C0,S18-24,26-35,60,B27-35,NW00010001000109090901000900090001090909010001000100
20b2o$20b2o5$17bo$18bo3bo$13b2o3bo4b2obo$13bo3bo2bo2b2obo$13bobo3b4o3b
o$14b2o3b2o$2o$2o7$8b2o$8b2o$20b2o2bo$20bo2bo$22bobo3b2o$20b3o5bo$20bo
7bo$28bo!
#C [[ THEME MCell ZOOM 8 TRACKLOOP 96 8/96 8/96 ]]

I think there is some lack of understanding/clarity on what would "count" (and what wouldn't "count") as one-engine Cordership.
Imagine an extremely large engineered arrangement of interacting parts behind a switch engine, where each "atomic" part in isolation would be too simple to be an engine (so there would be indeed just one engine, the switch engine). Would that count?

Posted: **November 14th, 2024, 11:22 pm**

Hammerhead from C1 by 2030

Posted: **November 15th, 2024, 11:20 am**

I predict it will be proven impossible for an oscillator in B3/S238 with Period-3 to conjure up S8, this may apply to p5 and p7 oscillators as well.

Edit: Glad someone proved me wrong.

Posted: **November 15th, 2024, 11:58 am**

WhiteHawk wrote: November 15th, 2024, 11:20 am I predict it will be proven impossible for an oscillator in B3/S238 with Period-3 to conjure up S8, this may apply to p5 oscillators as well.

That looks unlikely. Here is a patch containing the 3-by-3 condition 'S8/D8'. The marked patch is restored 3 ticks later (although the outer cells change states). I don't see a reason why a complete oscillator would be impossible.

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x = 11, y = 11, rule = B3/S238History
2A3.2A.A$.3C3D2CDA$.C2DC3DCDA$.3DCD2CDC$.DCD3C3DA$.CD6CD$AC2D4CDC$A2C
D2C4D$.C6DCDA$.DC2D2C3D$.A2.A!
#C [[ GRID STOP 3 HARDRESET ]]

Posted: **November 15th, 2024, 12:40 pm**

WhiteHawk wrote: November 15th, 2024, 11:20 am I predict it will be proven impossible for an oscillator in B3/S238 with Period-3 to conjure up S8, this may apply to p5 oscillators as well.

p3

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x = 18, y = 18, rule = B3/S238
4b2o$4b2o2$4b4o$4bo3bo4b2ob2o$7bo6bob2o$6bob4o2bo$6b5obobo$6b6obo$4bo
b6o$3bobob5o$3bo2b4obo$2obo6bo$2ob2o4bo3bo$10b4o2$12b2o$12b2o!

Searching p5 now, will edit when found

Posted: **November 15th, 2024, 3:09 pm**

Since my original prediction today has fallen through, here are a few more:

There are true-period oscillators of all periods all periods greater than or equal to 2 which query B8 in Pedestrian Life and S8 in EightLife. Additionally, there is at least one oscillator which queries B8 or S8 conditions at true period (e.g. the Tub With Tail rock hassler evolution in B38/S23 doesn't count since B8 is triggered every seven steps, though the oscillator is p14)

There is no p2 oscillator in B38/S238 which queries B8 and S8 (excluding welds of Pedestrian Life and EightLife oscillators).

There are non-LCM oscillators which query both B8 and S8 in HoneyLife for all periods greater than 30.

Lists of missing periods to prove or deny these predictions can be found on each of the respective threads for these rules.

EDIT:

ThrashBin wrote: November 15th, 2024, 12:40 pm Searching p5 now, will edit when found

Any luck, or partials?

Posted: **November 18th, 2024, 7:12 pm**

WhiteHawk wrote: November 15th, 2024, 3:09 pm [...] There are true-period oscillators of all periods 2-infinity which query B8 in Pedestrian Life and S8 in EightLife. [...]

I take it that by "all periods 2-infinity" you mean "all periods greater than or equal to 2".

What do you mean by the and part, exactly? Do you mean some sort of oscillator that evolves slightly differently in B38/S23 and in B3/S238, or that part should instead be interpreted as two separate predictions (one about alien B38/S23 oscillators of all periods and another about alien B3/S238 oscillators of all periods)?

WhiteHawk wrote: November 15th, 2024, 3:09 pm [...] (e.g. the Hook With Tail oscillator evolution in B38/S23 doesn't count since B8 is triggered every seven steps, though the oscillator is p14) [...]

The hook with tail is a still life (apgcode xs8_32qk), and not an oscillator.
I take it that you probably mean the p14 oscillator xp14_y31784czwggxg44240oxg88czc452w1608g8821w23zy5c84ozy811 since it seems to match the description.

WhiteHawk wrote: November 15th, 2024, 3:09 pm[...]
There are non-weld true-period oscillators [...]

What do you mean by "true-period oscillator", exactly?
As far as I know "true period oscillator" is not an existing term.

There is a term 'true period gun'. A true period gun is a gun whose mechanism has the same period as the output spaceship stream. (In contrast, a pseudo period gun is a gun whose mechanism has a higher period than the output spaceship stream. Then the period of the mechanism must be an integer multiple of the period of the output spaceship stream.)

However, this idea fails to work for oscillators, because there is no output spaceship stream, and hence there is no second period to compare.

Posted: **November 24th, 2024, 12:20 am**

Determination is proved to not be omniperiodic, thanks to the lack of p3.

Posted: **January 3rd, 2025, 4:40 pm**

New year, new predictions! This year, I predict:

A new SKOP67
At least 2 new replacements for SKOPs currently held by rectifier loops
Synthesis of every natural object in life
Reduction to the p35 gun
p18 or p38 gun
p66 pi hassler, p68 honey farm and TL hasslers, and a promising p58 partial honey farm hassler

EDIT: One down for "At least 2 new replacements for SKOPs currently held by rectifier loops"

Period1GliderGun wrote: January 14th, 2025, 1:45 pm 118P125; a smaller p25 sparker may exist (30P25 doesn't work):

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x = 36, y = 28, rule = B3/S23
3bob2o4b2obo$3b2o2bo2bo2b2o$b2o3bo4bo3b2o$o3b2ob4ob2o3bo$b3obobo2bobo
b3o$3bobobo2bobobo$6bo4bo$7b4o$18bo4b3o$16b3o$15bo$15b2o13b2o$30b2o$7b
2o2b3o8b3o$7b2o2bobo7bo2bo9bo$12bo7bo3bo4b2o2bobo$11bo8bo8b2o3bo$20bo
3bo$21bo2bo$22b3o2$17b2o$17b2o7b2obo$26b2ob3o$32bo$26b2ob3o$25bo2b2o$
25b2o!

Also reduces number of SKOPs with a minimum population higher than their period by 1

EDIT 2: "At least 2 new replacements for SKOPs currently held by rectifier loops" prediction is correct.

Period1GliderGun wrote: January 14th, 2025, 1:45 pm EDIT: 110P377, found specifically to prove one of WhiteHawk's predictions (namely, that at least 2 SKOPs would replace rectifier loops this year):
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x = 33, y = 38, rule = B3/S23
22b2o$22b2o2$25bo2bo$24bo6bo$24bo7bo$16b2o6bo3b2obo$16b2o7b3o$20b3o$13b
2o4bo3bo$13b2o8bo$18bo4bo$19bo2bo$10b2o10bo$11b3o$12b2o6bobo$13bo7bo$
16b2o$7b3o6bobo$2bo15bo$bobo4bobo7b2o$2bo8b2o$10bo$7bo7b2o$7bo7bobo$b
o15bo$o7bo8b2o$o8b2o$bo3b2obo$18b2o$5b3o7b2o2bo$11bo2bob3o$11b4o$8bo6b
4o$8b6obo2bo$12bobo$10bo$10b2o!

Posted: **February 9th, 2025, 1:28 pm**

tommyaweosme wrote: May 4th, 2024, 11:43 am (tommyaweosme, d-engine, and conglasses)

I would remove conglasses (whoever that is) and put me there

Posted: **February 15th, 2025, 6:23 pm**

The sandbox will collapse in 2026-2028

Posted: **February 15th, 2025, 7:22 pm**

WhiteHawk wrote: January 3rd, 2025, 4:40 pm

Reduction to the p35 gun

That's already happened. Period-35 glider gun

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