Famous Quotes

[Citation needed]

777
I CAN APGSEARCH NOW!

Sure, I was a bad person, but I have changed myself.
I'd love to befriend anybody who's interested.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

[BokaBB]

777
I CAN APGSEARCH NOW!

Sure, I was a bad person, but I have changed myself.
I'd love to befriend anybody who's interested.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

Is this because you thought I were dead? I am not, just very rare.

[d/dx]

don't see how this is a babbling brook, clearly does not meet the definition (last time i checked a string of cells cannot have four endpoints)

[Haycat2009]

Admins who forgot their daily coffee be like:

Come on, y'all -- if you find yourself getting into arguments in a Sandbox game thread, could you please simply stop contributing to that thread?

If everybody follows that rule, then grumpy moderators won't have to go around locking unpleasant-looking threads in response to post reports.

[d/dx]

life has been so extensively studied already that its less about finding new stuff and more about finding the cool stuff we already know but randomly

[Haycat2009]

Admins be dealing critical hits...

A grumpy moderator has been forced to pay attention to this thread.

Time to lock this thread.

If a word-chains variant thread of any kind pops up to replace this one, I'll cheerfully tempban whoever starts it.

[confocaloid]

Happy are those who don't have to choose

There is a time and a place in philosophy for rigorous arguments, with all the premises numbered and the inference rules named, but these do not often need to be paraded in public. We ask our graduate students to prove they can do it in their dissertations, and some never outgrow the habit, unfortunately. And to be fair, the opposite sin of high-flown Continental rhetoric, larded with literary ornament and intimations of profundity, does philosophy no favors either. If I had to choose, I’d take the hard-bitten analytic logic-chopper over the deep purple sage every time. At least you can usually figure out what the logic-chopper is talking about and what would count as being wrong.

[tommyaweosme]

BIG DISCOVER!!!!!

A PRIMES SQUARE MINUS TWO IS A PRIME!!!!!!!! (tommyaweosmes conjecture)

TRY TO DISPROVE IT!!!!!!!

oh.

maybe 11 is the only exception?(tommyaweosmes conjecture v2)

17^2)-2)/41=7

maybe if the digits add to an even number then it doesnt count?(tommyaweosmes conjecture v3)

23 also doesnt follow this rule

augh i give up

[confocaloid]

"several hundred million years"

[...] Note that I am using AI to help me here.

Sourceforge project page for my searcher: https://sourceforge.net/projects/bellman/

This stage of the search selects interesting partial results using a classifier based on a neural network of approximately 10^11 nodes which was generated using a genetic algorithm over a timespan of several hundred million years.

Hmm... I'm starting to think that because of my humble 1 GB, Intel Core 2 CPU T5600 @ 1.83GHz, I can consider myself one of the 99%... :|

[Haycat2009]

Come on, y'all -- if you find yourself getting into arguments in a Sandbox game thread, could you please simply stop contributing to that thread?

If everybody follows that rule, then grumpy moderators won't have to go around locking unpleasant-looking threads in response to post reports.

A grumpy moderator has been forced to pay attention to this thread.

Time to lock this thread.

If a word-chains variant thread of any kind pops up to replace this one, I'll cheerfully tempban whoever starts it.

They're noisy, ugly, escalatory, and irrelevant.

People who can not reliably play nicely in the Sandbox...

The admin is getting ANGRY

Also for the last one I did not have to cut out any middle segments.

[Haycat2009]

Created topic: Okay no Golly is just haunted at this point

Should I get an exorcism???

Created topic: This site is haunted!?

Seriously. This site needs help. We have put this off, burying it. Today, It comes back. Worse than ever.

We need to fix this. Before it gets worse.

[hth3]

I know I can come off as the "overly strict, no fun guy" sometimes. I understand that much of this is just joking and venting somewhat justified frustrations. I'm really just trying to balance the needs of the various users of this community. What can seem like a harmless joke to some may be taken badly by others. Similarly, what confocaloid might see as a harmless reminder of the rules may be viewed as extremely irritating badgering.

[confocaloid]

As if confocaloid were the only active forum user who could possibly do an agar search for b2ein3cijkr4jy6is23-ky4citwyz:

[...] i have more discoveries, but i'll post them when i come back from eating food *nom nom nom* [...]
[...]
[...] lastly, if confocaloid sees this, can you do an agar search for b2ein3cijkr4jy6is23-ky4citwyz?

(Further reading: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=4503 "Agar in Other Cellular Automata"

For the record, I searched for high-period agars some time ago, mostly in Life-like cellular automata, using a quick-and-dirty program which didn't support nontotalistic CA.
While it would be possible to make it support non-totalistic CA with some effort, I'm pretty sure that other people here can find lots of agars faster than I can.)

[hotcrystal0]

Do not overwork yourself. If you do so you will fail to see the world beyond your "line": whether it is your profession, your career, your studies, or something else.

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x = 56, y = 28, rule = R3,C2,S2,B3,N+
4obo3bo36bo3bob4o$9bo36bo$2bo4bobo36bobo4bo$9bo36bo$o54bo$9bo36bo$o54b
o$obo4bo40bo4bobo$o54bo$o3bob4o36b4obo3bo4$9bo2b3o3$bo52bo$3b3o5bo32b
o5b3o2$5bo4bo34bo4bo$10bo34bo$8bobo34bobo$bobo48bobo$bo52bo$bo4bo42bo
4bo2$o5b3o38b3o5bo$10bo34bo!

Instead, turn your life in an unexpected direction. Who knows what that will give you?

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x = 26, y = 8, rule = R3,C2,S2,B3,N+
o2b3o4$22bo$25bo$22bo$25bo!

[confocaloid]

EDIT: there were some subsequent improvements: https://conwaylife.com/w/index.php?diff ... did=159703
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A remarkably beautiful example of a totally-unmotivated definition:

a pattern is defined as having free speech it is not a period 5 oscillator, not 34 cells, not having a bounding box of 12x10, not having a heat of 13.2, not having a volatility of 0.58, not having a kinetic symmetry of n, or not able to serve as a weak sparker.

Related discussion elsewhere:
https://old.reddit.com/r/math/comments/ ... otivation/
https://old.reddit.com/r/math/comments/ ... motivated/
https://mathoverflow.net/questions/1882 ... of-experie

Further notes:

Nothing in the definition quoted above explains why on earth anyone would be interested in defining a concept in this way. (Is this definition proven to be equivalent to some other definition that's easier to appreciate intuitively? Is it useful to define things this way for some part of CGoL theory? Is it helpful to define things this way for some applications to constructing engineered patterns? Why it's defined in this particular way?)

Now, I happened to know enough to guess that all the listed statements (when interpreted in some plausible, although not always unique or immediately clear, way) either are true or appear to be for the oscillator Montana, a p5 oscillator that (according to LifeWiki) was found by Scot Ellison in June 2011, and has minimum population of 34 alive cells, "the union of all phases" bounding box 12-by-10, average heat 13.2, volatility 0.58, oscillator symmetry type "n", and claimed to be able to serve as a weak sparker.

But it would be very unreasonable to expect that a curious interested-but-not-invested reader would be able to guess that. Any relevant intuition needs to be mentioned, when defining a concept that's supposed to be useful. (Whether or not the concept of "being similar to the Montana oscillator in this particular way" is useful is left to be decided by future generations of mathematicians, I guess.)

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#C https://conwaylife.com/wiki/Montana
x = 12, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
9b2o$8bo2bo$bo7bobo$o3bob2ob2o$bobobob2o$3bo2bo2b2o$6bobo2bo$4bobobob
o$3bobo3bo$3b2o!

[tommyaweosme]

A remarkably beautiful example of a totally-unmotivated definition:

a pattern is defined as having free speech it is not a period 5 oscillator, not 34 cells, not having a bounding box of 12x10, not having a heat of 13.2, not having a volatility of 0.58, not having a kinetic symmetry of n, or not able to serve as a weak sparker.

-snip-
Nothing in the definition quoted above explains why on earth anyone would be interested in defining a concept in this way.
-snip-

which is why i both changed it and provided a section on its origin.

an oscillator is defined as having free speech if it does not have a constant still life in it.
ORIGIN
the origin of this term was made so you can say "montana doesnt have free speech" and you would be undeniably right, but then it turned into a better-defined term.

[hth3]

Simpkin Rifle

[hotcrystal0]

ι - Well I mean I know just the person but (stares right at non-existent camera) they aren't canon.
ρ - Wait what? How can something be not canon?
β - Rho. You. Are. Such. An. Idiot. We're. Living. In. An. Imaginary. Universe.

[Citation needed]

Thou shalt not cause Paradoxes by changing transitions in specific Spacetime points.
Thou shalt rulegolf only by changing the Rules and therefore causing consequences across the entire Spacetime continuum.

[confocaloid]

The missing context for the above is approximately as follows:

[...] It is impossible to control specific transitions in chosen "spacetime points", without consequences everywhere else whenever an equivalent neighbourhood configuration appears. Instead, it is a choice of specific rules, and after that, the chosen rules and the initial configuration taken together completely determine all transitions that will happen in the universe. [...]

for some reason these don't work anymore????
EDIT: seems like "PASTEMODE COPY" isn't working as it should.

Thou shalt not cause Paradoxes by changing transitions in specific Spacetime points.
Thou shalt rulegolf only by changing the Rules and therefore causing consequences across the entire Spacetime continuum.

EDIT: and here is what artificial intelligence thinks about it:

The quote you've provided seems to humorously reference the manipulation of rules in the context of cellular automata, particularly emphasizing the idea of "rulegolf," which is the practice of altering rules to achieve specific outcomes or efficiencies in the behavior of the automaton. [...]
[...]
2. **"Thou shalt rulegolf only by changing the Rules and therefore causing consequences across the entire Spacetime continuum."**:

• This part introduces the concept of "rulegolf," which generally refers to optimizing or altering the rules of the cellular automaton to achieve desired effects, usually in a more abstract or global manner rather than at specific locations. This implies that one should approach changes in a more comprehensive fashion, affecting the overarching rules rather than individual transitions.
• The phrase "causing consequences across the entire Spacetime continuum" humorously suggests that altering the rules will have widespread implications, potentially altering the behavior of the entire automaton's evolution across time and space, rather than just isolated points.

[...]

[confocaloid]

Are centroidal insectoids bugs or features?

Eventually, I'm let out to take over operations of FWC (including freeing the wrongfully-contained SCPs, as they're not anomalous and are just different states, and this isn't a bug). I leave my house to live a luxurious life at work instead. Meanwhile, the other P113 guy keeps the actual prisoners in line with a sparse glider stream.

I wonder if I can start a still-life-engineering company as part of FWC, to satisfy the constantly-focused centroidal insectoids.

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x = 254, y = 366, rule = LifeSuper

"Are centroidal insectoids bugs or features?"

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[JoshM]

As far as I can tell, you probably meant to sign up for an account, so I believe they're intentional.
However, given they're the LTL kind of 'bug', they may also be bugs.

Good question. Unfortunately, this is unrelated to cellular automata, and the very concept of this thread appears to be problematic, as it appears to document things forum users have said for seemingly non-academic purposes.

4. This is an academic forum, not a chat or microblogging platform. Please spend some time doing some research to familiarize yourself with what is and isn't already known about the Game of Life before posting your discoveries. [...]

[confocaloid]

[...] Good question. Unfortunately, this is unrelated to cellular automata, and the very concept of this thread appears to be problematic, as it appears to document things forum users have said for seemingly non-academic purposes. [...]

Seconded.

Also, as a matter of consistency/uniformity, the same would apply to some other threads, including but not limited to:
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=6914 "CA Roleplay Ultimate"
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=6831 "Something worse [GAME]"
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=5764 "Wrong answers only thread"
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=6905 "Conway's Game of Life Roleplay: Hopefully Definitive Edition"
...

[Citation needed]

Please don't ask such dumb questions then. (Omniperiodicity is not important in circuitry rules.)

There are no dumb questions.

By the way, please do not delete your own posts.

[confocaloid]

There are no dumb questions.

The phrase "There are no dumb questions" is typically used to encourage people to ask questions, regardless of how basic the question may look like. The idea is that asking questions is part of learning, and different people have different areas of knowledge and understanding, and genuine curiosity/seeking clarification/asking questions should be welcomed.

However, if taken literally, the statement would incorrectly suggest that all questions have value and that labeling any question as "dumb" would be inappropriate. In practice, some questions asked by people can be considered too hard or impossible to answer and highly unlikely to lead to deeper understanding or constructive discussion. In other words, there are dumb questions.