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I think the only letters whose sounds we haven't settled on are a, c, e, and i. I am going to give you my proposals for these sounds now:
C is /ts/ or /c/. I don't wish your sound to be here,except possibly as a digraph.Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 1st, 2020, 4:18 amI think the only letters whose sounds we haven't settled on are a, c, e, and i. I am going to give you my proposals for these sounds now:
a = /ɐ/
c = /t̠ʃ/
e = /ɛ/
i = /i/
Let's ask Hunting too and then we'll compare our proposals and hopefully come to an agreement.BokaBB wrote: November 1st, 2020, 4:44 am C is /ts/ or /c/. I don't wish your sound to be here,except possibly as a digraph.
Can a and e be /a/ and /e/ in some cases and those other in other cases?
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I agree with all of your proposal except i - I want to extend my "non-natural sound" argument to here, that is, i -> /I/ (short i sound not L) and ii -> /i/.Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 1st, 2020, 4:48 amLet's ask Hunting too and then we'll compare our proposals and hopefully come to an agreement.BokaBB wrote: November 1st, 2020, 4:44 am C is /ts/ or /c/. I don't wish your sound to be here,except possibly as a digraph.
Can a and e be /a/ and /e/ in some cases and those other in other cases?
Have a good day!
BokaBB
Ok I can accept that I guess. Should we ask Moosey and Saka?Hunting wrote: November 1st, 2020, 5:29 am I agree with all of your proposal except i - I want to extend my "non-natural sound" argument to here, that is, i -> /I/ (short i sound not L) and ii -> /i/.
I don't think we agreed on any of the letters I proposed sounds for. If we don't accept that we haven't agreed yet, we will go nowhere. For pages we have been arguing messily. We have to have some structure.BokaBB wrote: November 1st, 2020, 6:22 am Hunting is a weird man.However,I am even weirder.
We made agreements about everything except c. Either /c/ or /ts/.
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I can't forget that we made agreements with a and e.Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 1st, 2020, 6:27 amI don't think we agreed on any of the letters I proposed sounds for. If we don't accept that we haven't agreed yet, we will go nowhere. For pages we have been arguing messily. We have to have some structure.BokaBB wrote: November 1st, 2020, 6:22 am Hunting is a weird man.However,I am even weirder.
We made agreements about everything except c. Either /c/ or /ts/.
Elkeo beo rigeu!
BokaBB
Could you please show the posts where we agree? I don't remember anything like that. I remember agreeing with Hunting but I don't remember you agreeing. I saw the Board and Card Games thread already, I will read the rules or your game. I really like board and card games, so I will probably be posting there.BokaBB wrote: November 1st, 2020, 7:10 am I can't forget that we made agreements with a and e.
Please check and test my card game count bridge,posted on the thread Board And Card Games.
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I can't now,but they were relatively recently. I think we said that e is other e and ee /e/or maybe reverse,not sure. We also agreed on the a sound with something about diphtongs and plosives.Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 1st, 2020, 7:29 amCould you please show the posts where we agree? I don't remember anything like that. I remember agreeing with Hunting but I don't remember you agreeing. I saw the Board and Card Games thread already, I will read the rules or your game. I really like board and card games, so I will probably be posting there.BokaBB wrote: November 1st, 2020, 7:10 am I can't forget that we made agreements with a and e.
Please check and test my card game count bridge,posted on the thread Board And Card Games.
Elkeo beo rigeu!
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I remember that I had suggested /ɐ/ before plosives, and /a/ everywhere else, but I also remember that Hunting said that they wanted one sound per letter.BokaBB wrote: November 1st, 2020, 8:53 am I can't now,but they were relatively recently. I think we said that e is other e and ee /e/or maybe reverse,not sure. We also agreed on the a sound with something about diphtongs and plosives.
Both were relatively recently, I don't think you will have any problems finding them.
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Everyone has impossible wishes.Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 1st, 2020, 9:54 amI remember that I had suggested /ɐ/ before plosives, and /a/ everywhere else, but I also remember that Hunting said that they wanted one sound per letter.BokaBB wrote: November 1st, 2020, 8:53 am I can't now,but they were relatively recently. I think we said that e is other e and ee /e/or maybe reverse,not sure. We also agreed on the a sound with something about diphtongs and plosives.
Both were relatively recently, I don't think you will have any problems finding them.
Thanks for supporting my card game count bridge!If you can,please play a round with someone.
Elkeo beo rigeu!
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If you're going to say something, please say something relevant/important.BokaBB wrote: November 1st, 2020, 10:13 am Everyone has impossible wishes.
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It might be helpful to track people's opinions about the phonology and orthography on the sheet, so that we don't have to repeatedly reiterate opinions on the thread.Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 1st, 2020, 6:27 amI don't think we agreed on any of the letters I proposed sounds for. If we don't accept that we haven't agreed yet, we will go nowhere. For pages we have been arguing messily. We have to have some structure.BokaBB wrote: November 1st, 2020, 6:22 am Hunting is a weird man.However,I am even weirder.
We made agreements about everything except c. Either /c/ or /ts/.
Elkeo beo rigeu!
BokaBB
I don't think there's a problem with an inexact correspondence between letters and sounds, as long as any such variations are perfectly predictable.Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 1st, 2020, 9:54 amI remember that I had suggested /ɐ/ before plosives, and /a/ everywhere else, but I also remember that Hunting said that they wanted one sound per letter.
I guess I can accept that, but what sounds will be double letters and what sounds will be single we we haven't yet agreed upon. I agree with your sounds, the former group certainly sound shorter and the latter sound longer.fluffykitty wrote: November 1st, 2020, 5:44 pm I support using single <aei> for /ɐɛɪ/ and doublings for /aei/. Also, some of the diphthongs (particularly the ones contrasting /o/ and /u/) seem like
That's actually a really good idea. I really don't know why we didn't think of that before. Thank you!It might be helpful to track people's opinions about the phonology and orthography on the sheet, so that we don't have to repeatedly reiterate opinions on the thread.
I have mixed feelings on that one. We said we wanted it to be simple, but we can't agree on sounds, so we might have to do that.I don't think there's a problem with an inexact correspondence between letters and sounds, as long as any such variations are perfectly predictable.
Welcome here!fluffykitty wrote: November 1st, 2020, 5:44 pm I support using single <aei> for /ɐɛɪ/ and doublings for /aei/. Also, some of the diphthongs (particularly the ones contrasting /o/ and /u/) seem like they would be difficult to distinguish.It might be helpful to track people's opinions about the phonology and orthography on the sheet, so that we don't have to repeatedly reiterate opinions on the thread.Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 1st, 2020, 6:27 amI don't think we agreed on any of the letters I proposed sounds for. If we don't accept that we haven't agreed yet, we will go nowhere. For pages we have been arguing messily. We have to have some structure.BokaBB wrote: November 1st, 2020, 6:22 am Hunting is a weird man.However,I am even weirder.
We made agreements about everything except c. Either /c/ or /ts/.
Elkeo beo rigeu!
BokaBBI don't think there's a problem with an inexact correspondence between letters and sounds, as long as any such variations are perfectly predictable.Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 1st, 2020, 9:54 amI remember that I had suggested /ɐ/ before plosives, and /a/ everywhere else, but I also remember that Hunting said that they wanted one sound per letter.
That's just a list of letters. They aren't supposed to be together. I put our opinions in the spreadsheet, you can look at it to see if they're correct.BokaBB wrote: November 2nd, 2020, 5:32 am Welcome here!
Hmmmm,aeiaei looks a bit too long if you think about that. Correct me if you think about some other kind of thing.
I also don't have much against inexact correspondence,as far as there aren't too much of them.
We aren't currently creating words,but I ask you to create a few (as few as 3 is enough) to integrate
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Okay. Schaparelio,you agreed about i being /i/.Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 2nd, 2020, 5:33 amThat's just a list of letters. They aren't supposed to be together. I put our opinions in the spreadsheet, you can look at it to see if they're correct.BokaBB wrote: November 2nd, 2020, 5:32 am Welcome here!
Hmmmm,aeiaei looks a bit too long if you think about that. Correct me if you think about some other kind of thing.
I also don't have much against inexact correspondence,as far as there aren't too much of them.
We aren't currently creating words,but I ask you to create a few (as few as 3 is enough) to integrate
Elkeo beo rigeu!
BokaBB
I accept that, though don't change the opinion page please.BokaBB wrote: November 2nd, 2020, 5:39 am Okay. Schaparelio,you agreed about i being /i/.
I can accept other sounds. I ask about an agreement where single e is /e/ and ae other e. I also ask fluffykitty about its thought on our a letter compromise.
Elkeo beo rigeu!
BokaBB
What do you mean under changing the opinion page?Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 2nd, 2020, 5:41 amI accept that, though don't change the opinion page please.BokaBB wrote: November 2nd, 2020, 5:39 am Okay. Schaparelio,you agreed about i being /i/.
I can accept other sounds. I ask about an agreement where single e is /e/ and ae other e. I also ask fluffykitty about its thought on our a letter compromise.
Elkeo beo rigeu!
BokaBB
I added a part on our opinions in the spreadsheet to make it tidier. Please look if I've written your opinion correctly.BokaBB wrote: November 2nd, 2020, 7:54 am What do you mean under changing the opinion page?
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MODERATORS,THE SPREADSHEET IS BEING RAIDED,URGENTLY ACT!!!!!!!Schiaparelliorbust wrote: October 29th, 2020, 3:03 pmI'm glad you agree. You can look at the current state of the spreadsheet if you want, though please don't change anything already there. You may add stuff though.BokaBB wrote: October 29th, 2020, 2:55 pm We made some agreement and it will be as in it.
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... 1126530732
No it isn't. Sorry I used that word kind of compulsively.BokaBB wrote: November 2nd, 2020, 9:30 am MODERATORS,THE SPREADSHEET IS BEING RAIDED,URGENTLY ACT!!!!!!!
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Moderators,it may be Schaparelio's joke,I don't know.BokaBB wrote: November 2nd, 2020, 9:30 amMODERATORS,THE SPREADSHEET IS BEING RAIDED,URGENTLY ACT!!!!!!!Schiaparelliorbust wrote: October 29th, 2020, 3:03 pmI'm glad you agree. You can look at the current state of the spreadsheet if you want, though please don't change anything already there. You may add stuff though.BokaBB wrote: October 29th, 2020, 2:55 pm We made some agreement and it will be as in it.
Elkeo beo rigeu!
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... 1126530732
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No I didn't mean I was Moosey I meant Moosey was there.BokaBB wrote: November 2nd, 2020, 9:36 am Moderators,it may be Schaparelio's joke,I don't know.
You said you are Moosey in Word Chains.
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