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Posted: **April 18th, 2022, 6:00 am**

yujh wrote: April 16th, 2022, 4:03 am
Citation needed wrote: April 15th, 2022, 11:51 pm
BTS-fan wrote: April 15th, 2022, 6:01 am

すみません. Are you sure that this account is created by him or intended for you? It's obvious that this account is created on Fawkes's birthday. He might have played a trick on you after he discovered the secret.
It's really created by ColorfulGalaxy for me. As for the Fawkes's birthday, it's probably a coincidence.
Cool.

The Trump and the Fawkes aren't the same person.

Posted: **April 18th, 2022, 8:46 am**

BTS-fan wrote: April 18th, 2022, 6:00 am
yujh wrote: April 16th, 2022, 4:03 am
Citation needed wrote: April 15th, 2022, 11:51 pm

It's really created by ColorfulGalaxy for me. As for the Fawkes's birthday, it's probably a coincidence.
Cool.
The Trump and the Fawkes aren't the same person.

They don’t care. Even if they aren’t the same person, they can still be using each other’s accounts, which means one one gets banned, the other get banned as well. And IP address apparently.

I’m also just messing around with you because it’s sandbox, but saying that they are not alts of each other just makes you more suspicious after all. Why confuse new users with user:currentnews ?

Posted: **April 19th, 2022, 9:08 am**

Well, this may make some of you puke ......

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x = 29, y = 77, rule = B3/S23
16b2o$16bo2bo$10b2o5b3o$10bo2bo$4b2o5b3o3b3o3b2o$4bo2bo8bobobobobo$5b
3o3b3o2b2ob2obo$10bobobobobobob2o$5b3o2b2ob2o2b3o$b2obobobobobobo$2bob
2ob2o2b3o5b3o3b2o$obobobobo9bobobobobo$2o3b3o5b3o2b2ob2obo$12bobobobob
obob2o$7b3o2b2ob2o2b3o$3b2obobobobobobo$4bob2ob2o2b3o5b3o3b2o$2bobobob
obo9bobobobobo$2b2o3b3o5b3o2b2ob2obo$14bobobobobobob2o$9b3o2b2ob2o2b3o
$5b2obobobobobobo$6bob2ob2o2b3o3b3o$4bobobobobo8bo2bo$4b2o3b3o3b3o5b2o
$15bo2bo$9b3o5b2o$9bo2bo$11b2o5$2b2o3b2o8b2o$2bobobo2bo6bo2bo$4bobo2bo
2b2o2bo2bo2b2o3b2o$2bobobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobobo$2b2o3b2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo
2bobo$11bo2bo6bo2bobobo$12b2o8b2o3b2o22$10bo2bo$10b4o2$8b8o$7bo8bo$7bo
b6obo$4b2obobo2bobobob2o$5bobob2o3bobobo$5bobobo3b2obobo$4b2obobobo2bo
bob2o$7bob6obo$7bo8bo$8b8o2$10b4o$10bo2bo!

Posted: **April 19th, 2022, 9:22 am**

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x = 20, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
6bo2bo2bo2bo$6b4o2b4o2$4b12o$2obo12bo$bobo2b8o2bo$bobobo8bobob2o$2obob
ob4obobobobo$3bobo4bobobobobo$3bobob2o3bobobob2o$2obobobo3b2obobo$bobo
bobobo4bobo$bobobobob4obobob2o$2obobo8bobobo$3bo2b8o2bobo$3bo12bob2o$
4b12o2$4b4o2b4o$4bo2bo2bo2bo!

Posted: **April 19th, 2022, 9:51 am**

dl-rs wrote: April 19th, 2022, 9:08 am Well, this may make some of you puke ......

My apologies -- I know it's slightly rude to move your posts out of the Oscillator Discussion Thread into the Sandbox.

However, you've started to break a few forum rules, so these posts were really starting to be a distraction on the thread where you put them.

1) Avoid double-posting
2) Try really hard not to post patterns without some kind of text description of them, at least a few words
3) If something will "make some of us puke", maybe it would be better not to post it, just out of common courtesy...! (This is both the "be considerate" rule and the "this is an academic forum, not a chat or microblogging site" rule.)

In general, the patterns you posted seem to be well-known low-period oscillators, or variants of them. It's best to keep the Oscillator Discussion Thread limited to new stuff only. Otherwise the new discoveries very quickly get buried in repetitive clutter, and nobody can find anything (especially if the clutter isn't labeled at all).

Posted: **April 19th, 2022, 7:25 pm**

now...

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x = 29, y = 77, rule = B3/S23
16b2o$16bo2bo$10b2o5b3o$10bo2bo$4b2o5b3o3b3o3b2o$4bo2bo8bobobobobo$5b
3o3b3o2b2ob2obo$10bobobobobobob2o$5b3o2b2ob2o2b3o$b2obobobobobobo$2bob
2ob2o2b3o5b3o3b2o$obobobobo9bobobobobo$2o3b3o5b3o2b2ob2obo$12bobobobob
obob2o$7b3o2b2ob2o2b3o$3b2obobobobobobo$4bob2ob2o2b3o5b3o3b2o$2bobobob
obo9bobobobobo$2b2o3b3o5b3o2b2ob2obo$14bobobobobobob2o$9b3o2b2ob2o2b3o
$5b2obobobobobobo$6bob2ob2o2b3o3b3o$4bobobobobo8bo2bo$4b2o3b3o3b3o5b2o
$15bo2bo$9b3o5b2o$9bo2bo$11b2o5$2b2o3b2o8b2o$2bobobo2bo6bo2bo$4bobo2bo
2b2o2bo2bo2b2o3b2o$2bobobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobobo$2b2o3b2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo
2bobo$11bo2bo6bo2bobobo$12b2o8b2o3b2o22$10bo2bo$10b4o2$8b8o$7bo8bo$7bo
b6obo$4b2obobo2bobobob2o$5bobob2o3bobobo$5bobobo3b2obobo$4b2obobobo2bo
bob2o$7bob6obo$7bo8bo$8b8o2$10b4o$10bo2bo!

Posted: **April 19th, 2022, 8:59 pm**

dl-rs wrote: April 19th, 2022, 7:25 pm now...

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x = 29, y = 77, rule = B3/S23
16b2o$16bo2bo$10b2o5b3o$10bo2bo$4b2o5b3o3b3o3b2o$4bo2bo8bobobobobo$5b
3o3b3o2b2ob2obo$10bobobobobobob2o$5b3o2b2ob2o2b3o$b2obobobobobobo$2bob
2ob2o2b3o5b3o3b2o$obobobobo9bobobobobo$2o3b3o5b3o2b2ob2obo$12bobobobob
obob2o$7b3o2b2ob2o2b3o$3b2obobobobobobo$4bob2ob2o2b3o5b3o3b2o$2bobobob
obo9bobobobobo$2b2o3b3o5b3o2b2ob2obo$14bobobobobobob2o$9b3o2b2ob2o2b3o
$5b2obobobobobobo$6bob2ob2o2b3o3b3o$4bobobobobo8bo2bo$4b2o3b3o3b3o5b2o
$15bo2bo$9b3o5b2o$9bo2bo$11b2o5$2b2o3b2o8b2o$2bobobo2bo6bo2bo$4bobo2bo
2b2o2bo2bo2b2o3b2o$2bobobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobobo$2b2o3b2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo
2bobo$11bo2bo6bo2bobobo$12b2o8b2o3b2o22$10bo2bo$10b4o2$8b8o$7bo8bo$7bo
b6obo$4b2obobo2bobobob2o$5bobob2o3bobobo$5bobobo3b2obobo$4b2obobobo2bo
bob2o$7bob6obo$7bo8bo$8b8o2$10b4o$10bo2bo!

This is obviously not endemic either. hello Dvgrn, is this because of the system glitching when you moved the post

你会说中文吗
你會說中文嗎

Posted: **April 19th, 2022, 9:34 pm**

yujh wrote: April 19th, 2022, 8:59 pm
dl-rs wrote: April 19th, 2022, 7:25 pm now...
This is obviously not endemic either. hello Dvgrn, is this because of the system glitching when you moved the post

你会说中文吗
你會說中文嗎

No, I saw that post replied to the wrong topic this morning, and indeed the pattern is an exact duplicate of the one in p144450 above.

... Judging from the behaviour, I guess the username is inspired from two mobile games, if not from two chemical concepts?

Posted: **April 20th, 2022, 1:03 am**

I saw him posting 。。。

Posted: **April 20th, 2022, 11:10 am**

hmmm...

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x = 1, y = 143, rule = B2-a3-i7/S23-a
o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$
o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$
o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$o2$
o2$o2$o!

EDIT by dvgrn: Moved this to the Sandbox, because

0) the post got reported. This has happened with a number of your posts. It's common courtesy to pay careful attention to what types of posts are and aren't welcome in which threads, and to try to adjust your behavior to get reported less often.

1) the rule doesn't match the topic of the thread, and you don't give any warning about that. It's common courtesy to do so, if you think you have a pattern in a different rule that's still relevant to the thread for some reason.

2) you don't make any effort to describe what's interesting or noteworthy about your pattern -- "hmmm..." is just not a useful label. It's common courtesy to label your posts, so that people can decide if they want to run them or not.

Posted: **April 20th, 2022, 7:26 pm**

hey someone deleted mine

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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
6bo2bo$6b4o2$4b8o$3bo8bo$3bob6obo$2obobo2bobobob2o$bobob2o3bobobo$bobo
bo3b2obobo$2obobobo2bobob2o$3bob6obo$3bo8bo$4b8o2$6b4o$6bo2bo!

fairly interesting

Posted: **April 20th, 2022, 7:33 pm**

dl-rs wrote: April 20th, 2022, 7:26 pm hey someone deleted mine
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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
6bo2bo$6b4o2$4b8o$3bo8bo$3bob6obo$2obobo2bobobob2o$bobob2o3bobobo$bobo
bo3b2obobo$2obobobo2bobob2o$3bob6obo$3bo8bo$4b8o2$6b4o$6bo2bo!
fairly interesting

They did not delete your post. We moved your post to the sandbox. Go to sandbox for some more information on this post. Also this post is either going to be sent to sandbox or get deleted forever together with the above.

Posted: **April 23rd, 2022, 11:15 pm**

yujh wrote: April 23rd, 2022, 10:05 pm Anyways
JP21 wrote: March 27th, 2021, 12:30 amEDIT by dvgrn (unless it's JP21 pretending to be dvgrn again, who really knows at this point?) replaced rule-2 word with a link just to keep some well-meaning busybody from reporting this post so that then we could go round and round again a few more times on this silly moderation merry-go-round. Apologies to anyone who might be offended by this edit, especially either JP21 or dvgrn, whoever didn't actually make the edit.

Please not this again. So you literally quote the whole thing in my username? You could have at least realized it was dvgrn's text.
This happened before in the same (Famous Quotes) thread.

cgoler2 wrote: April 28th, 2021, 9:37 pm
JP21 wrote:EDIT by dvgrn: (unless it's JP21 pretending to be dvgrn again, who really knows at this point?)

and it was so annoying that I had to pm dvgrn just to change JP21 to dvgrn.

JP21 wrote:May 24th, 2021, 12:19 pm Can you change the [quotе=JP21] to [quotе=dvgrn] in this post?
Please. I kinda see it in a bad way that it's still says that I wrote that one edit when it wasn't me.
Thank you.

Posted: **April 24th, 2022, 9:19 am**

Of the 231 oscillators I've discovered, these numbers are ordered from "multiples of N most represented" to least. For example, I've found 7 that are a multiple of 40, which is slightly above 1 in 40. Being past "1" on the list means I've found fewer than random chance.

24, 16, 32, 12, 8, 30, 60, 20, 10, 15, 6, 64, 4, 48, 2, 5, 18, 21, 14, 3, 63, 100, 7, 96, 40, 9, 36, 42, 25, 50, 1, 38, 28, 22, 84, 74, 46, 45, 19, 11, 57, 55, 27, 54, 35, 49, 98, 31, 90, 81, 39, 78, 77, 76, 75, 37, 72, 70, 23, 69, 66, 13, 65, 62, 52, 44, 33, 29, 26

Caveats:

1. Only numbers from 1 to 100 are represented in the list above.
2. The period LCM(72,76)=1368 is not represented in the list above, and the p20/24 depending on timing was treated as a p20.

Notes:

Closer to when I started, multiples of 7 were more overrepresented than multiples of 8. This has significantly changed despite no new sparkers that would cause that.

While I've found important multiples of 19 (first p38, p57 and p114 guns, p76 sparker and SKOP), 19 is below average. It's just that the ones that I have found are important.

I have not found a single oscillator with a period that is multiple of 17.

Posted: **April 25th, 2022, 12:48 am**

One liners, especially two words are not so cool, I guess

Ohhhhhhhhh wrote: April 25th, 2022, 12:43 am Interesting topic……

anyways
(3,7)c/26

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x=0,y-0,rule= B3-ckqy4ciq5y6cn7c/S2-i3-ak4i5q
bo$3o$o!

Edit: I believe the answer is no to all your questions, because b1c. @yoel

Posted: **April 25th, 2022, 5:54 am**

Citation needed wrote: April 24th, 2022, 11:55 pm

BTS-fan wrote: April 22nd, 2022, 6:10 am

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x = 29, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
2o6b2o10b2o3b2o$2o6b2o10b2o3b2o$5b2o4b2o$5b2o4b2o4b2o3b2o$2b2o13b2o3b
2o$2b2o3b2o5b2o$7b2o5b2o4b2o4b2o$10b2o8b2o4b2o$5b2o3b2o5b2o$5b2o10b2o
4b2o$2o6b2ob2o10b2o$2o6b2ob2o7b2o$4b2o8b2o4b2o2b2o$4b2ob2ob2o2b2ob2o5b
2o$2o5b2ob2o5b2o$2o20b2o$4b2o3b2o5b2o4b2o3b2o$4b2o3b2o5b2o9b2o$13b2o$
2o5b2o4b2ob2o2b2o2b2o$2o5b2o7b2o2b2o2b2o!

You have been warned against "blockspam".

「Blockspam」とは何ですか？

Posted: **April 25th, 2022, 10:07 am**

Announcing my Brand New Avatar™!

Posted: **April 26th, 2022, 11:55 pm**

BTS-fan wrote: April 25th, 2022, 5:54 am
Citation needed wrote: April 24th, 2022, 11:55 pm
BTS-fan wrote: April 22nd, 2022, 6:10 am
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x = 29, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
2o6b2o10b2o3b2o$2o6b2o10b2o3b2o$5b2o4b2o$5b2o4b2o4b2o3b2o$2b2o13b2o3b
2o$2b2o3b2o5b2o$7b2o5b2o4b2o4b2o$10b2o8b2o4b2o$5b2o3b2o5b2o$5b2o10b2o
4b2o$2o6b2ob2o10b2o$2o6b2ob2o7b2o$4b2o8b2o4b2o2b2o$4b2ob2ob2o2b2ob2o5b
2o$2o5b2ob2o5b2o$2o20b2o$4b2o3b2o5b2o4b2o3b2o$4b2o3b2o5b2o9b2o$13b2o$
2o5b2o4b2ob2o2b2o2b2o$2o5b2o7b2o2b2o2b2o!
You have been warned against "blockspam".
「Blockspam」とは何ですか？

You can find it here.

Posted: **April 27th, 2022, 6:09 am**

I may be a little more busy these days. I need to head for the City Garden, and then to a funeral. I will then leave for the May Day celebration.
I hope that everyone here celebrates May Day. Happy May Day, everyone!

Posted: **April 27th, 2022, 11:52 pm**

BTS-fan wrote: April 27th, 2022, 6:09 am I may be a little more busy these days. I need to head for the City Garden, and then to a funeral. I will then leave for the May Day celebration.
I hope that everyone here celebrates May Day. Happy May Day, everyone!

I'm sorry, but I was told that ColorfulGalaxy doesn't celebrate May Day.
The first day of May is a holiday in his place, but they don't call it "May Day". They don't have "Maypoles" and dances.

Please stop making posts in Japanese so often, or else ColorfulGabrielsp138 may end up coming back and speaking Japanese as well.

Posted: **April 28th, 2022, 6:01 am**

Citation needed wrote: April 27th, 2022, 11:52 pm
BTS-fan wrote: April 27th, 2022, 6:09 am I may be a little more busy these days. I need to head for the City Garden, and then to a funeral. I will then leave for the May Day celebration.
I hope that everyone here celebrates May Day. Happy May Day, everyone!
I'm sorry, but I was told that ColorfulGalaxy doesn't celebrate May Day.
The first day of May is a holiday in his place, but they don't call it "May Day". They don't have "Maypoles" and dances.

Ehh... ええええ、その人はベンゼン卵だねぇぇぇぇぇ………
I've never heard of such a person.

Citation needed wrote: Please stop making posts in Japanese so often, or else ColorfulGabrielsp138 may end up coming back and speaking Japanese as well.

It isn't Japanese.

Posted: **May 5th, 2022, 10:08 am**

yujh wrote: February 28th, 2022, 9:10 am Let’s go to sandbox instead.

yujh wrote: May 5th, 2022, 8:12 am

squareroot12621 wrote: May 4th, 2022, 9:32 pm The stuff I found is in red.

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Sorry for not shortening the post, but all these are obviously known and are in catagolue.

Please do not post replies that just say that something posted is already known. In my opinion, these do not add any on-topic/useful knowledge to the thread, and may even discourage constructive participation in that thread due to fear of accidentally posting something "obviously already known". Also, what seems "obvious" to one may be far from obvious to another, and sometimes the obvious may be totally wrong.

Posted: **May 5th, 2022, 11:14 am**

confocaloid wrote: May 5th, 2022, 10:08 am

yujh wrote: February 28th, 2022, 9:10 am Let’s go to sandbox instead.

yujh wrote: May 5th, 2022, 8:12 am

squareroot12621 wrote: May 4th, 2022, 9:32 pm The stuff I found is in red.

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Sorry for not shortening the post, but all these are obviously known and are in catagolue.

Please do not post replies that just say that something posted is already known. In my opinion, these do not add any on-topic/useful knowledge to the thread, and may even discourage constructive participation in that thread due to fear of accidentally posting something "obviously already known". Also, what seems "obvious" to one may be far from obvious to another, and sometimes the obvious may be totally wrong.

This adds useful knowledge to the topic because it might mislead new users (who doesn’t know catagolue exists or can’t navigate the site) to think that they made the discovery.
A point of my post is to discourage discovery when one thinks, oh, I found this. I definitely found this. (Or like, “it’s mine”)
Also I do not understand why a glider tagalong is in the oscillator collection, and why you would really need to specify you found this. Why exactly do you need to say, these are my discoveries?

Posted: **May 5th, 2022, 11:29 am**

yujh wrote: May 5th, 2022, 11:14 am This adds useful knowledge to the topic because it might mislead new users (who doesn’t know catagolue exists or can’t navigate the site) to think that they made the discovery.
A point of my post is to discourage discovery when one thinks, oh, I found this. I definitely found this. (Or like, “it’s mine”)
Also I do not understand why a glider tagalong is in the oscillator collection, and why you would really need to specify you found this. Why exactly do you need to say, these are my discoveries?

Then (probably) you could give URL links to webpages that support your claim that the patterns under discussion are already known, and that might actually be useful knowledge. On the other hand, if the reader does not yet know about Catagolue and has issues navigating the website, then I cannot see how would an one-line reply like "all these are obviously known and are in catagolue" be useful to that reader. It seems that they will now need to somehow understand what is "catagolue" (since by assumption they do not know that yet), which will require them to navigate the website (which, again by assumption, they are not sufficiently comfortable with). If you know that something is already known then maybe you could provide the necessary references as well.

yujh wrote: May 5th, 2022, 11:14 am Why exactly do you need to say, these are my discoveries?

Because people like to discover things? Personally I believe that rediscoveries are not bad, and certainly a rediscoverer of something should not be punished for accidentally doing what has been done before, especially when someone does not say "I was the first to find this" but rather merely "I found this".

Posted: **May 5th, 2022, 6:04 pm**

confocaloid wrote: May 5th, 2022, 11:29 am
yujh wrote: May 5th, 2022, 11:14 am Why exactly do you need to say, these are my discoveries?
Because people like to discover things? Personally I believe that rediscoveries are not bad, and certainly a rediscoverer of something should not be punished for accidentally doing what has been done before, especially when someone does not say "I was the first to find this" but rather merely "I found this".

Agree with the first part. (Also sometimes adding too much links is annoying, but not this case)
I also believe that rediscovery isn’t bad, and without knowing that it’s a rediscovery while saying that one discovered this is also not bad, but circling the patterns they found is a never done before(kinda) thing to a pattern collection, at least for me. That’s more than just saying, I was the first to find this, and why would you need such a large box(with a lot of empty space, [s]did you discover empty cells …?)[/s] like people either acknowledge the fact that you found this, sometimes naming them after you like cordership, but I don’t think they just give the names themselves. Most people has to agree with this, and you don’t usually name a pattern when you just found it(except systematic names) I would rather hear people saying, oh
I discovered these oscillators

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pxxx, pxxxx, pxxxxx

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Not adding to a pattern collection circling out what you found.
the first thing is you don’t usually just throw things into the pattern collection, you just post the new discoveries,
And as I said circling out one’s discoveries is a bit odd, and using a lifehistory rule just for circling. (Except the glider tag along and eater part which I don’t understand why it is there)

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