Re: Catagolue Discussion Thread
Posted: April 25th, 2021, 8:30 pm
Is there any page on Catagolue that lists all of the still lives with a particular glider cost?
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You can download /textcensus/b3s23/synthesis-costs (21 megabytes) and then filter through that yourself.MathAndCode wrote: April 25th, 2021, 8:30 pm Is there any page on Catagolue that lists all of the still lives with a particular glider cost?
Why do some of the costs seem to be 100,000,000,000,000,000 too high?calcyman wrote: April 25th, 2021, 9:28 pmYou can download /textcensus/b3s23/synthesis-costs (21 megabytes) and then filter through that yourself.
That's a display trick, to put all of the strict objects before the pseudos without affecting their apparent cost. Filter out everything that isn't above that ridiculous number.MathAndCode wrote: April 25th, 2021, 10:20 pm Why do some of the costs seem to be 100,000,000,000,000,000 too high?
Edit: Many of these are constellations, not strict still lives. How do I filter those out?
77topaz wrote: January 20th, 2019, 7:15 pmBrown = newly uploaded, not yet processedtod222 wrote:What do the colors signify in the root column on the haul pages?
Colours between brown and green = various stages in the verification/committing process
Green = this haul has been committed to the census
Red = this haul failed a statistical test, it is not included in the census
Blue = this haul contains something special, it is being permanently preserved (green hauls are deleted after a while)
But these are a bit old. Has there been any change since?Apple Bottom wrote: January 9th, 2018, 5:12 pmIf by "button colors" you mean the sample soup link bullets, the colors are computed by taking the first six hex digits of the SHA-256 hash of the symmetry, and interpreting them as an RGB color value.gameoflifemaniac wrote:I know that, but WHAT symmetries are they?danny wrote: Symmetry, colours based on some algorithm.
For instance, D8_4 hashes to "a621fb6a4036736e5b2e468c69d5cee9cfbef98b27200d4a9cca1f2ee3345291", so the color used for that symmetry is #A621FB, a brilliant purple.
Converting a given color back to the corresponding symmetry is left as an exercise for the reader.
Replace 'object' with 'attribute' in that URL:etmoonshade wrote: May 9th, 2021, 12:25 am It'd be nice to see the actual date where I found that neat double BLSE, for example.
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Soup k_7HzdJDZzhwFt31736768 was found on 2019-12-07 at 01:53:50 UTC and is owned by etmoonshade@gmail.comCode: Select all
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Soup k_7HzdJDZzhwFt31736768 was found on 2019-12-07 at 01:53:50 UTC and is owned by etmoonshade@gmail.comCode: Select all
x = 31, y = 31, rule = B3aijnq5e6k/S23-qy4irtz
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3o$b3obo2b4o3b2obo2b2ob4o$3bob3ob14o5bo$b3o2bob4o2b4obo3b2ob5o$2b2ob2o
2bo4b2obo3bob4o3bo$bo3b2obobobo4bobobo4bob3o$o2b2o3bob6ob7obobob2o$2ob
2ob4obobo2b2o3bo2b6o$3obo3bo2bo3bo2b2o2b2ob3o2bo$bo2b2ob2obo3b2obo2b3o
2b3obo$2ob2o3bobo3b2obo4b2o2bob2o$3ob6ob2ob3o4b2o3bo2b2o$3b3o3bo3bobob
3o2bob3obobo$ob5obob11obob5obo$obob3obo2b3obobo3bo3b3o$2o2bo3b2o4b3ob
2ob6ob3o$b2obo2b2o4bob2o3bobo3b2ob2o$bob3o2b3o2bob2o3bob2ob2o2bo$o2b3o
b2o2b2o2bo3bo2bo3bob3o$b6o2bo3b2o2bobob4ob2ob2o$2obobob7ob6obo3b2o2bo$
3obo4bobobo4bobobob2o3bo$o3b4obo3bob2o4bo2b2ob2o$5ob2o3bob4o2b4obo2b3o
$2bo5b14ob3obo$3b4ob2o2bob2o3b4o2bob3o$b3ob2o3bo2bob2obo2bobob2obo$3bo
bobob5o3b3ob3obo2bobo$bo6b3ob2ob3o2bob4o!
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My own Q, why does cata sometimes only shows a specific number of soups that is not 500?
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https://catagolue.hatsya.com/object/xs8_32qk/b3s23I think this one was discussed, but I'm not the one who remembers where it is. (related to ikpx2 and a puffer)2.
Pretty usual, These usually happen, probably because that object is too common. https://catagolue.hatsya.com/attribute/ ... 8kc/b38s233.
Not quite actually, since you're not calcyman himself (and probably didn't ask him about this before), and 2830 isn't something very common, I guessIt's an optimization. Would you prefer looking at every sample soup of the block or not looking at every one?
calcyman wrote: May 9th, 2021, 6:38 am Replace 'object' with 'attribute' in that URL:
https://catagolue.hatsya.com/attribute/ ... 4a56/b3s23
and it tells you:
This is indeed a neat trick. But my thought was more like, "I have this haul that is apparently significant, but why?" I think that pointing to a specific object was a misguided attempt at an example on my part.Dylan Chen wrote: May 9th, 2021, 6:44 am There has a trick to display all discovery date and username. just replace object with attribute in url.
like: https://catagolue.hatsya.com/attribute/ ... 4a56/b3s23
it clearly displayed that:Code: Select all
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Wdym? https://catagolue.hatsya.com/user/still ... iscoveriescgoler2 wrote: May 18th, 2021, 1:04 pm Why aren't there any sample soups for xs27_651u08ozmkhf032z1?
Edit: There is one now. But why isn't it listed in my Discoveries page?
2nd edit: Fixed.
10mins for Catagolue refreash the pagecgoler2 wrote: May 19th, 2021, 9:33 am I posted that right after the haul with that still life had been there, but I still don't know why there wasn't any sample soups for it even when the haul was blue.
Give it as many threads as you can give it using -p at the command line. Also make sure your computer is set for "high performance" in power settings - that bit me HARD when I was working on my setup.cgoler2 wrote: May 19th, 2021, 8:12 pm Can the search speed for a computer with an Intel Core i5 processor be updated to 10000/s?
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apgsearch5: Average soups/sec: 24700.784 Current soups completed: 3300000
apgsearch1: Average soups/sec: 25306.156 Current soups completed: 199800000
apgsearch6: Average soups/sec: 24771.074 Current soups completed: 30000000
apgsearch3: Average soups/sec: 24773.977 Current soups completed: 124200000
apgsearch7: Average soups/sec: 25993.119 Current soups completed: 94200000
apgsearch8: Average soups/sec: 25319.361 Current soups completed: 68400000
apgsearch2: Average soups/sec: 24754.541 Current soups completed: 106200000
apgsearch4: Average soups/sec: 24448.056 Current soups completed: 164100000
Overall Average soups/sec: 25008.3835
Total soups/sec: 200067.068I have just submitted them as-is, but separating individual steps containing large gaps. Can someone tell me if they are successfully stored?GUYTU6J wrote: May 21st, 2021, 11:16 am ......Code: Select all
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x = 831, y = 133, rule = B3/S23 779bobo$780b2o$780bo5$605bobo$605b2o$606bo10$271bo533bo$272bo531bo$ 270b3o531b3o2$364bobo$365b2o411bobo5bo$281bo83bo84bo119bo37b2o160bo8b 2o5b3o19b2o$282bo165b3o117b3o37bo107bo51b3o8bo9bo18bo$280b3o69b2o78b2o 13bo104b2o13bo38bobo108b2o33b2o13bo20b2o16bobo$352b2o78b2o13b2o103b2o 13b2o37b2o108b2o34b2o13b2o37b2o$456bo155bobo176bo$283bo171bo156b2o177b obo$283bobo76b3o90b3o155bo177b2o$283b2o63bo15bo63bo119bo199bo$348bo14b o64bo119bo168bo30bo$348bo79bo119bo21b2o146b2o28bo21b2o$479bo90b2o145b 2o51b2o$452b3o23bo$452bo25b3o18bo128bobo$453bo21bo22b2o128b2o$474b2o 22bobo128bo$474bobo2$799b2o$799b2o2$607b3o$607bo$608bo$621bo$620bo$ 620b3o6$616bo$615b2o$615bobo5$479bobo$479b2o22bobo$228bo251bo22b2o294b 2o$227bo276bo294b2o$227b3o5$5bo49bo79bo59bo79bo69bo79bo119bo199bo$4bob o47bobo77bobo57bobo77bobo23b2o42bobo23b2o52bobo23b2o92bobo23b2o172bobo 23b2o$4bobo47bobo77bobo57bobo77bobo23b2o42bobo23b2o52bobo23b2o92bobo 23b2o172bobo23b2o$3b2ob2o45b2ob2o75b2ob2o15bo39b2ob2o75b2ob2o65b2ob2o 75b2ob2o115b2ob2o195b2ob2o$2bo2bo2bo43bo2bo2bo73bo2bo2bo15bo37bo2bo2bo 73bo2bo2bo63bo2bo2bo73bo2bo2bo54b3o56bo2bo2bo193bo2bo2bo$bobobobobo41b obobobobo71bobobobobo12b3o36bobobobobo71bobobobobo61bobobobobo71bobobo bobo53bo57bobobobobo191bobobobobo$2bobobobo43bobobobo73bobobobo53bobob obo73bobobobo63bobobobo73bobobobo55bo57bobobobo193bobobobo$4bobo47bobo 77bobo57bobo77bobo67bobo77bobo117bobo197bobo$3bo2bo46bo2bo20bo55bo2bo 8b2o46bo2bo8b2o10b2o54bo2bo8b2o10b2o44bo2bo8b2o10b2o54bo2bo8b2o10b2o 94bo2bo8b2o10b2o37b2o135bo2bo8b2o10b2o37b2o$4b2o48b2o21bobo54b2o9bo48b 2o9bo11bo56b2o9bo11bo46b2o9bo11bo56b2o9bo11bo96b2o9bo11bo38bobo135b2o 9bo11bo20b2o16bobo$77b2o67b3o57b3o9b3o9b3o53b3o9b3o55b3o9b3o65b3o9b3o 105b3o9b3o37bo147b3o9b3o18bo18bo$148bo6bo52bo11bo9bo57bo11bo57bo11bo 67bo11bo107bo11bo37b2o148bo11bo15b3o19b2o$55b2o17b2o59b2o18b2o38b2o34b o43b2o68b2o78b2o118b2o198b2o39bo$55b2o16b2o60b2o17bobo38b2o78b2o68b2o 78b2o118b2o198b2o$75bo$7b3o$7bo$8bo$3o623bo$2bo622b2o$bo623bobo3$84bo$ 83b2o$83bobo607b2o$694b2o$693bo2$90b3o722b2o$90bo724bobo$91bo723bo$ 692b2o$693b2o$692bo62bo$755b2o$754bobo3$828b3o$619bo208bo$618b2o209bo$ 618bobo16$756bo$756b2o$755bobo!
Nope. Tried to modify them myself and it didn't work either. Listed on Gitlab for now.GUYTU6J wrote: May 24th, 2021, 10:15 am I have just submitted them as-is, but separating individual steps containing large gaps. Can someone tell me if they are successfully stored?
They only count in C1 or G1. I also want there to be a copperhead badge on Catagolue.ihatecorderships wrote: May 25th, 2021, 2:11 pm In what symmetries can you qualify for badges and discoveries? I found the second occurrence of an xs30 in C2_2 a few days ago, and yesterday I found a phoenix 1 in C2_4, but on my use page it doesn't list me as having the conchita badge, and it doesn't say I discovered anything. Do discoveries only count in C1 or G1?