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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: April 1st, 2025, 11:41 am
by hth3
Phoenix can act as an OT booster:

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x = 16, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
8bo5bo$7bo5bo$7b3o3b3o2$3bo$3bobo$bo$6b2o$2o$6bo$2bobo$4bo!
Cis-bun with tail:

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x = 12, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
3bo$4bo$2b3o3$3bo$3bobo$bo$6b2o2b2o$2o7b2o$6bo4bo$2bobo$4bo!
Merger:

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x = 13, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
bo$2bo$3o2$4bo$4bobo$2bo$7b2o2b2o$b2o7b2o$7bo4bo$3bobo$5bo!

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: April 2nd, 2025, 6:05 am
by Tawal
Is this BNW19T128 known ?

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x = 52, y = 39, rule = LifeHistory
4D2.D3.D.D3.D3.D3.3D2.5D3.D4.3D3.3D$D3.D.2D2.D.D3.D2.2D2.D3.D3.D4.2D
3.D3.D.D3.D$D3.D.D.D.D.D3.D3.D2.D3.D3.D5.D7.D.D3.D$4D2.D2.2D.D.D.D3.D
3.4D3.D5.D6.D3.3D$D3.D.D3.D.D.D.D3.D6.D3.D5.D5.D3.D3.D$D3.D.D3.D.2D.
2D3.D6.D3.D5.D4.D4.D3.D$4D2.D3.D.D3.D2.3D2.3D4.D4.3D2.5D2.3D6$13.4B$
14.4B$15.4B$16.4B$17.4B$18.4B$19.4B$20.4B$21.4B9.2A$22.4B8.A.A$23.4B
9.A2.2A$11.7B.B4.4B7.2A.A.A$11.13B.4B5.B.B.A$9.C20B4.B4A$9.BC22B.BAB
2.2A$8.2B2C23B.3A2.A$7.2B2C2B2A16B2A2B2.B.A2.A$7.2BC3B2A14B.BA.AB3.2A
.2A$9.11B3.2B.3B3.2A5.A$9.10B8.2A8.A.A$10.6B11.A9.2A$11.3B14.3A$11.B
18.A$10.2A$10.A$11.A$10.2A!
I found it in one of my files but I don't know where it came from.

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: April 3rd, 2025, 2:43 pm
by Zodduniverse
P40 TL + block hassler

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x = 37, y = 35, rule = B3/S23
22bo$21bobo$22bo$28b4o$27bo4bob2o$27bo4bo3bo$30b2o4bo$15b3o9b2o4bo2bo
$15bo10bo2bo3bo2bo$2b4o9b3o8bo2bo4b2o$bo4bob2o16bo4b2o$bo4bo3bo15bo3b
o4bo$4b2o4bo16b2obo4bo$b2o4bo2bo8b3o9b4o$o2bo3bo2bo10bo$o2bo4b2o9b3o$
o4b2o$o3bo4bo$b2obo4bo$5b4o$14bo$13bobo$14bo2$25b2o$25b2o$15b2o$16bo$
16bobo$17b2o$24b2o$25bobo$26bo2$22b3o!
is it known?

Re: Thread for your miscellaneous discoveries

Posted: April 3rd, 2025, 8:49 pm
by confocaloid
Honeyfarm sequence hitting a loaf in a certain way produces a LWSS, and can be made to produce a MWSS and a glider, with some added junk and at the expense of an eater 1:

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x = 30, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
17bo$15b3o$14bo$14b2o12$13bo$12bobo$12bo2bo$13b2o$28b2o$28bo$26bobo$
26b2o3$16bo$15bobo$15bobo$15b2o3$2o$2o!
#C [[ GRID ZOOM 8 ]]

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: April 4th, 2025, 9:46 am
by dl-rs
Brute force H to G, most likely known...

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x = 34, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
31bo$29b3o$28bo$28b2o5$10bo$10b3o$13bo6b3o$12b2o8bo$21b3o9$32b2o$32b2o
7$2b2o$bobo$bo15b2o$2o15b2o!
An H to 3G:

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x = 23, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
5bo$5b3o$8bo6b3o$7b2o8bo$16b3o15$21b2o$2o19b2o$2o2$12b2o$12b2o!

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: April 4th, 2025, 10:12 am
by confocaloid
dl-rs wrote: April 4th, 2025, 9:46 am Brute force H to G, most likely known... [...]
An H to 3G: [...]
Both are known. The first one is NW31T120. The second one adds two more glider outputs, SW-2T21 (the first natural glider of the input Hershel) and SE-2T80.

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x = 114, y = 72, rule = LifeHistory
67.D3.D.D3.D2.3D4.D3.5D3.D4.3D3.3D$67.2D2.D.D3.D.D3.D2.2D5.D4.2D3.D3.
D.D3.D$67.D.D.D.D3.D5.D3.D5.D5.D7.D.D2.2D$67.D2.2D.D.D.D3.2D4.D5.D5.D
6.D2.D.D.D$67.D3.D.D.D.D5.D3.D5.D5.D5.D3.2D2.D$67.D3.D.2D.2D.D3.D3.D
5.D5.D4.D4.D3.D$67.D3.D.D3.D2.3D3.3D4.D4.3D2.5D2.3D$D3.D.D3.D2.3D4.D
3.5D3.D4.3D3.3D$2D2.D.D3.D.D3.D2.2D5.D4.2D3.D3.D.D3.D$D.D.D.D3.D5.D3.
D5.D5.D7.D.D2.2D$D2.2D.D.D.D3.2D4.D5.D5.D6.D2.D.D.D21.3D2.5D8.3D2.5D
2.3D3.3D$D3.D.D.D.D5.D3.D5.D5.D5.D3.2D2.D20.D3.D.D11.D3.D3.D3.D3.D.D
3.D$D3.D.2D.2D.D3.D3.D5.D5.D4.D4.D3.D20.D5.D15.D3.D3.D3.D.D2.2D$D3.D.
D3.D2.3D3.3D4.D4.3D2.5D2.3D22.3D2.3D3.5D4.D4.D4.3D2.D.D.D$71.D.D13.D
5.D3.D3.D.2D2.D$67.D3.D.D12.D6.D3.D3.D.D3.D$68.3D2.5D7.5D3.D4.3D3.3D
4$68.3D2.D3.D8.3D2.5D2.3D4.D$67.D3.D.D3.D7.D3.D3.D3.D3.D2.2D$67.D5.D
3.D11.D3.D7.D3.D$68.3D2.D.D.D.5D4.D4.D6.D4.D$71.D.D.D.D9.D5.D5.D5.D$
67.D3.D.2D.2D8.D6.D4.D6.D$68.3D2.D3.D7.5D3.D3.5D2.3D2$15.4B$16.4B$17.
4B$18.4B$19.4B$20.4B60.4B$21.4B60.4B$22.4B60.4B$23.4B9.A50.4B$24.4B6.
3A51.4B$25.4B4.A55.4B$25.4B4.2A54.4B$25.5B.4B54.5B2.B$24.9B55.6B.B2A$
24.9B55.8B2A$24.9B55.6B.2B$23.10B54.7B$22.12B52.8B$12.2A8.13B41.2A8.
8B$13.A9.11B43.A9.8B$13.A.AB4.12B44.A.AB4.10B$14.2AB.15B45.2AB.14B$
16.17B47.17B$16.17B47.17B$17.17B.B45.17B.B$16.19B2A43.19B2A$14.19B.B
2A41.19B.B2A$12.19B4.B40.21B2.B$12.2BC16B45.2BC17B$11.3BCBC4B.9B44.3B
CBC4B.9B$12.2B3C4B2.7B46.2B3C4B.8B$11.5BC4B2.7B45.5BC4B.8B$10.10B4.6B
44.10B.9B$9.4B10.7B43.4B6.10B.2B$8.4B12.6B42.4B5.14B2A$8.3B13.7B40.4B
5.15B2A$6.2AB15.6B40.4B5.17B$5.A.AB15.5B40.4B7.13B$5.A17.6B39.4B11.
10B$4.2A17.4B41.3B12.11B$23.2B2AB40.2B13.10B$25.2A41.B15.8B$87.4B$88.
4B!

p30 pre-pulsar hassler partial

Posted: April 5th, 2025, 9:28 am
by tommyaweosme
muzik wrote: February 16th, 2016, 9:31 am Okay, so this ate the blocks and still made a pulsar in a different place. Progress I guess.

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x = 9, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
3o3b3o$obo3bobo$3o3b3o4$b2o3b2o$b2o3b2o!


Should we make a different thread for this?
by putting another set of two blocks somewhere near the top, we can make it so it goes back to the same place. therefore, if the blocks didnt get eaten, it would make a p30 pre-pulsar hassler.

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x = 9, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
b2o3b2o$b2o3b2o7$3o3b3o$obo3bobo$3o3b3o4$b2o3b2o$b2o3b2o!

[[ PASTET EVERY 15 PASTE 2o3b2o$2o3b2o! 1 14 ]]
[[ PASTET EVERY 15 PASTE 2o3b2o$2o3b2o! 1 0 ]]
edit: rofl i got pentadecathlon and pulsar messed up

Re: p30 pentadecathlon hassler partial

Posted: April 5th, 2025, 9:32 am
by b-engine
tommyaweosme wrote: April 5th, 2025, 9:28 am by putting another set of two blocks somewhere near the top, we can make it so it goes back to the same place. therefore, if the blocks didnt get eaten, it would make a p30 pentadecathlon hassler.

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x = 9, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
b2o3b2o$b2o3b2o7$3o3b3o$obo3bobo$3o3b3o4$b2o3b2o$b2o3b2o!

[[ PASTET EVERY 15 PASTE 2o3b2o$2o3b2o! 1 14 ]]
[[ PASTET EVERY 15 PASTE 2o3b2o$2o3b2o! 1 0 ]]
Congratulations on "rediscovering" eureka.

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x = 18, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
bo14bo$obo4bo7bobo$bo3b2ob2o6bo$7bo4$7bo$bo3b2ob2o6bo$obo4bo7bobo$bo14b
o!
Note that it's a pulsar hassler, not a pentadecathlon hassler.

Re: p30 pentadecathlon hassler partial

Posted: April 5th, 2025, 9:43 am
by WhiteHawk
b-engine wrote: April 5th, 2025, 9:32 am Note that it's a pulsar hassler, not a pentadecathlon hassler.
Pre-pulsar. No pulsar actually forms here

EDIT:
tommyaweosme wrote: April 5th, 2025, 9:28 am by putting another set of two blocks somewhere near the top, we can make it so it goes back to the same place. therefore, if the blocks didnt get eaten, it would make a p30 pentadecathlon hassler.

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If you still want blocks, two is the best I can do.

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x = 18, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
15bo$6bo7bobo$2o2b2ob2o6bo$2o4bo4$8bo7b2o$2bo3b2ob2o5b2o$bobo4bo$2bo!

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: April 5th, 2025, 3:26 pm
by Game of Life Fun
Game of Life Fun wrote: March 31st, 2025, 6:02 pm This p8 spaceship can turn gliders info a half of Simkin Glider Gun with B. But i can't find a way to put this glider into that position. Ordinary rakes don't work...

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x = 20, y = 54, rule = B3/S23
11b3o$11bo2bo$11bo$6b3o2bo$6bo2bo2bobo$6bo4b3o$3bo2bo4bo$2b3obo5b2o$b
2o2b4o$2bo2b2o$2bo$2b2o$3b2o$11b3o$3b3o5bo2bo$3b2o6bo$2b2o7bo3bo$2b2o
3b2o2bo3bo$2b2o3b2o2bo$3b3ob2o3bobo$4b3o$5bo4$4b2o$o$b2ob3o$2o17$18b2o
$18b2o2$15b2o$15b2o3$18b2o$18b2o! [[ STOP 45 ]]
That on the right works:

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x = 77, y = 50, rule = LifeHistory
7.A49.A$6.3A47.3A$5.2A.A46.2A.A$5.3A4.A42.3A4.A$6.2A3.3A42.2A3.3A$10.
2A.A46.2A.A$7.A.A.2A44.A.A.2A$7.A3.2A2.3A39.A3.2A2.3A$7.A3.A2.A2.A39.
A3.A2.A2.A$14.A3.A45.A3.A$14.A.A47.A.A$16.A49.A$15.2A48.2A$7.A7.A41.A
7.A$6.3A5.2A40.3A5.2A$5.2A.A8.A37.2A.A8.A$5.3A8.A38.3A8.A$5.3A3.A5.A
37.3A3.A5.A$5.3A3.2A4.A37.3A3.2A4.A$6.2A4.A3.A39.2A4.A3.A$13.3A4.A42.
3A$10.A9.A.A37.A$19.D2A47.D.2A$17.2D48.2D2.A.2A$18.2D48.2D.3A$14.2A
48.2A6.A$14.2A48.2A7.2A$13.2A48.2A$75.2A13$2A48.2A$2A48.2A2$3.2A48.2A
$3.2A48.2A3$2A48.2A$2A48.2A! [[ STOP 5 ]]
Is there any more simple reaction to put a glider this way?

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x = 36, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
2bo30bo$b3o28b3o$2obo27bo2b2o$3o4bo$b2o3b3o$5b2obo$2bobob2o$2bo3b2o2b
3o$2bo3bo2bo2bo$9bo3bo$9bobo$11bo$10b2o$2bo7bo$b3o5b2o$2obo7bo$3o5b3o$
3o6bo$3o$b2o3bo$5bobo$6bo2b2o$7bo3bo$7bo3bo$8b3o!

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: April 5th, 2025, 5:03 pm
by Supersuthiastic
p1509120 puffer:

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x = 79, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
52bobo$51bo$52bo2bo$54b3o$78bo$77b2o16$bobo$o$bo2bo$3b3o$27bo$26b2o!

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: April 5th, 2025, 6:29 pm
by confocaloid
Supersuthiastic wrote: April 5th, 2025, 5:03 pm p1509120 puffer:

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x = 79, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
52bobo$51bo$52bo2bo$54b3o$78bo$77b2o16$bobo$o$bo2bo$3b3o$27bo$26b2o!
It looks like the eventually-forming p1509120 puffer adds 676496 alive cells to the total population every cycle (i.e. every 1509120 ticks). The ash contains pulsars at least, and I didn't double-check whether the period is exactly 1509120 or a multiple.

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x = 308, y = 217, rule = B3/S23
51b2o2bo$54bobo$53bo16bo$70bo$55b2o13bo2$56b2o12b2o$55bo13bo2bo$53b2ob
2o$56b2o10bo3bo$54bo13b3ob2o3bo$77bo$74b2obo2$68b2o3b3o3b3o$70bo3b2o$
77bo8b2o$77bo8b2o$77bo3$2o2bo$3bobo$2bo16bo$19bo74b2o$4b2o13bo74b2o2$
5b2o12b2o$4bo13bo2bo44b2o$2b2ob2o59b2o$5b2o10bo3bo116b2o5b2o$3bo13b3ob
2o3bo111b2o4bo2bo$26bo118b2o$23b2obo2$17b2o3b3o3b3o57b2o11b2o31b3o$19b
o3b2o76bobo$26bo8b2o54bobo8bo40b2o$26bo8b2o51bo3bob2o46bo2bo$26bo53bo
6bo3bobo49b2o$79bobo6bob2o38b2o$79bo2bo47b2o7bo$72bo7b2o56bobo$70b3o
65bobo$71bo67bo$43b2o$43b2o2$118b2o$15b2o101b2o$15b2o2$107bo$106bobo$
93bo12b2o$92bobo25b2o6bo15b2o$37b2o11b2o40b2o26bobo4bobo14b2o$50bobo
68bo5bo2bo$40bobo8bo76b2o$37bo3bob2o$29bo6bo3bobo59bo$28bobo6bob2o60bo
bo37bo$28bo2bo69b2o37bobo27b2o5b2o$21bo7b2o85b2o22b2o28b2o4bo2bo$19b3o
94b2o31b3o25b2o$20bo2$166b3o2$67b2o63b2o41b2o$67b2o13b2o48b2o40bo2bo$
81bo2bo90b2o$82b2o58b2o18b2o$56bo45b2o37bo2bo17b2o7bo$55bobo43bo2bo37b
2o26bobo$42bo12b2o45b2o66bobo$41bobo55bo71bo$41b2o56bo$84b2o13bo$84b2o
$101b3o$51bo41bo$50bobo40bo$50b2o41bo10b2o$104b2o$147b3o$125bo$124bobo
26bo6bo15b2o$124b2o27bo5bobo14b2o$153bo5bo2bo$28b2o130b2o$27b2o$29bo
104bo$133bobo37bo$51b2o50bo29b2o37bobo27b2o5b2o$50bo2bo26b2o20bobo43b
2o22b2o28b2o4bo2bo$51b2o26bo2bo18bo2bo43b2o31b3o25b2o$48bo31b2o20b2o$
48bo$48bo149b3o2$50b3o111b2o41b2o$114b2o48b2o40bo2bo$113bo2bo90b2o$53b
2o59b2o58b2o18b2o$53b2o79b2o37bo2bo17b2o7bo$133bo2bo37b2o26bobo$74bo
59b2o66bobo$73bobo55bo71bo$73b2o56bo$116b2o13bo$116b2o$133b3o$83bo41bo
$82bobo40bo$82b2o41bo10b2o$136b2o$45b2o132b3o$45b2o110bo$156bobo26bo6b
o15b2o$156b2o27bo5bobo14b2o$185bo5bo2bo$98bobo91b2o$99b2o$99bo66bo$41b
2o122bobo37bo$41b2o40b2o50bo29b2o37bobo27b2o5b2o$82bo2bo26b2o20bobo43b
2o22b2o28b2o4bo2bo$83b2o26bo2bo18bo2bo43b2o31b3o25b2o$80bo31b2o20b2o$
80bo$80bo149b3o2$82b3o111b2o41b2o$146b2o48b2o40bo2bo$51b2o92bo2bo90b2o
$50bobo32b2o59b2o58b2o18b2o$50b2o33b2o79b2o37bo2bo17b2o7bo$165bo2bo37b
2o26bobo$106bo59b2o66bobo$105bobo55bo71bo$105b2o56bo$148b2o13bo$148b2o
$165b3o$115bo25bo15bo$114bobo25bo14bo$114b2o24b3o14bo10b2o$168b2o$77b
2o132b3o$77b2o110bo$188bobo26bo6bo15b2o$188b2o27bo5bobo14b2o$217bo5bo
2bo$224b2o2$198bo$73b2o122bobo37bo$73b2o40b2o50bo29b2o37bobo27b2o5b2o$
114bo2bo26b2o20bobo43b2o22b2o28b2o4bo2bo$115b2o26bo2bo18bo2bo43b2o31b
3o25b2o$112bo31b2o20b2o$112bo$112bo149b3o2$114b3o111b2o41b2o$178b2o48b
2o40bo2bo$83b2o92bo2bo90b2o$82bobo32b2o59b2o58b2o18b2o$82b2o33b2o79b2o
37bo2bo17b2o7bo$197bo2bo37b2o26bobo$138bo59b2o66bobo$137bobo55bo71bo$
137b2o56bo$180b2o13bo$180b2o$197b3o$147bo41bo$146bobo40bo$146b2o41bo
10b2o$200b2o$109b2o132b3o$109b2o110bo$220bobo26bo6bo15b2o$220b2o27bo5b
obo14b2o$249bo5bo2bo$256b2o2$230bo$105b2o122bobo37bo$105b2o40b2o50bo
29b2o37bobo27b2o5b2o$146bo2bo26b2o20bobo43b2o22b2o28b2o4bo2bo$147b2o
26bo2bo18bo2bo43b2o31b3o25b2o$144bo31b2o20b2o$144bo$144bo149b3o2$146b
3o111b2o41b2o$210b2o48b2o40bo2bo$115b2o92bo2bo90b2o$114bobo32b2o59b2o
58b2o18b2o$114b2o33b2o79b2o37bo2bo17b2o7bo$229bo2bo37b2o26bobo$170bo
59b2o66bobo$169bobo55bo71bo$169b2o56bo$212b2o13bo$212b2o$229b3o$179bo
41bo$178bobo40bo$178b2o41bo10b2o$232b2o$141b2o$141b2o$304b2o$304b2o!

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: April 7th, 2025, 5:37 pm
by C_R_116
C_R_116 wrote: March 24th, 2024, 9:59 pm I'm not sure if you can make a new spaceship from this 28c/83 crawler:

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x = 157, y = 341, rule = B3/S23
156bo$154b2o$155b2o47$134bo$134bobo$134b2o47$113bobo$113b2o$114bo46$
93bo$92bo$92b3o$12b2o$12b2o27$12b2o$12b2o17$73bo$71b2o$72b2o8$12b2o$
12b2o27$12b2o$12b2o10$51bo$51bobo$51b2o15$12b2o$12b2o27$12b2o$12b2o3$
30bobo$30b2o$31bo22$12b2o$12b2o9$3bo$2b3o$b2o2bo4$o$b2o$b3o2b2o$2b2o2b
2o$5b3o$obo2b2o$2bo$3o!
This could be potential, though it can be costly to synthesize multiple LWSS's:

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x = 221, y = 127, rule = B3/S23
o2bo$4bo$o3bo214b2o$b4o214b2o25$43b2o$42b4o$42b2ob2o172b2o$44b2o173b2o
26$84b4o$83bo3bo131b2o$87bo131b2o$83bo2bo25$127b2o$125b2ob2o89b2o$125b
4o90b2o$126b2o24$166bo2bo$170bo$166bo3bo48b2o$167b4o48b2o9$210bo$209b
3o$208b2o2bo!

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: April 9th, 2025, 5:06 pm
by jayden678910
Paperclip making reaction.

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 x = 34, y = 19, rule = B3/S23Super
2A$2A25.4A$26.6A$.A23.2A.4A$A.A23.2A$A.A$.A2$2A24.A6.A$2A23.A$25.A7.A
$.A23.8A$A.A$A.A$.A$27.4A$2A24.6A$2A23.2A.4A$26.2A!
EDIT:
New methuselah?
Top: how I discovered it
Bottom: just the methuselah.

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 x = 8, y = 263, rule = B3/S23Super
5.2A$5.2A2$6.A$5.A.A$5.A.A$6.A2$5.2A$5.2A2$5.A$4.A.A$4.A.A$5.A240$2A$
2A3$3.3A$3.3A$3.3A$3.2A$3.A!
Lasts for 786 generations.

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: April 19th, 2025, 2:37 am
by KtT
This reaction indicates that xs21_gjlozdmz39c is a 1-object seed of pentadecathlon:

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x = 19, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
2b2ob2ob2o$o2b2ob2obo2b2o$2o7bobobo$9b2o7$16b3o$16bo$17bo!

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: April 19th, 2025, 5:58 am
by confocaloid
KtT wrote: April 19th, 2025, 2:37 am This reaction indicates that xs21_gjlozdmz39c is a 1-object seed of pentadecathlon: [...]
Lower population (xs19_g88c48f1246z23, currently takes 14 gliders to construct in otherwise empty space):

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x = 14, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
2o$bo$o$b3ob2o$3b2obo2b2o$6bobobo$6b2o5$11b3o$11bo$12bo!

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: April 21st, 2025, 12:53 pm
by chrisEff
I think I discovered the period-145 glider gun by simply taking away some structures from the period-435 gun.
AFAICS there seems to be no period-145 gun anywhere on the internet yet.
I'm a bit baffled that no one seems to have thought of this before, tbh...

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x = 112, y = 54, rule = B3/S23
52b2o40bo$27b2o24bo38b3o$28bo13b2o6b3o38bo9bo$28bobo11b2o6bo40b2o6b5o
$14b2o13b2o67bo5bo$14b2o82bob2o2bo$97b2obobob3obo$102bo4b2o$8b2o90bob
ob2o$8b2o48bo40b2obobob5o$12b2o43b2o38b2o3bo5bo2bo$12b2o42bobo38b2obo
2b4o3b2o$96b2o2b3o4bo$96b3o6bobo$96b3o6bobo$7b2o87b2o2b3o4bo$7b2o70b2o
16b2obo2b4o3b2o$17bo39b2o20b2o16b2o3bo5bo2bo$16b3o8bo3b2o24bo41b2obob
ob5o$15b2o2bo6bobo3bo5b2o3b2o13bo41bobob2o$15bob3o6b2o3bo7bo3bo13b2o43b
o4b2o$15b2o13bo6bobobobobo51b2obobob3obo$26b5obo4b2obobob2o52bob2o2bo
$20bo5bo4bobo6bobo55bo5bo$21bo6bo2bobo6bobo56b5o$19b3o5b2o3bo8bo59bo3$
10bo59bo8bo3b2o5b3o$8b5o56bobo6bobo2bo6bo$7bo5bo55bobo6bobo4bo5bo$7bo
2b2obo52b2obobob2o4bob5o$3bob3obobob2o51bobobobobo6bo13b2o$3b2o4bo43b
2o13bo3bo7bo3b2o6b3obo$6b2obobo41bo13b2o3b2o5bo3bobo6bo2b2o$b5obobob2o
41bo24b2o3bo8b3o$o2bo5bo3b2o16b2o20b2o39bo$2o3b4o2bob2o16b2o70b2o$4bo
4b3o2b2o87b2o$4bobo6b3o$4bobo6b3o$4bo4b3o2b2o$2o3b4o2bob2o38bobo42b2o
$o2bo5bo3b2o38b2o43b2o$b5obobob2o40bo48b2o$6b2obobo90b2o$3b2o4bo$3bob
3obobob2o$7bo2b2obo82b2o$7bo5bo67b2o13b2o$8b5o6b2o40bo6b2o11bobo$10bo
9bo38b3o6b2o13bo$17b3o38bo24b2o$17bo40b2o!

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: April 21st, 2025, 1:06 pm
by Macaw
Hello! I was messing around with life and found an interesting spaceship that I was wondering if it had a name or has been found before (it likely has).

RLE Code

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x = 0, y = 0, rule = B3/S23
3o3b3o$o2bobo2bo$o7bo$o7bo$o7bo$bobobobo!
I couldn’t get an image or gif of the ship to be here without seemingly uploading them to an external site first.

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: April 21st, 2025, 1:14 pm
by confocaloid
Macaw wrote: April 21st, 2025, 1:06 pm Hello! I was messing around with life and found an interesting spaceship that I was wondering if it had a name or has been found before (it likely has). [...]
MWSS on MWSS 1 (xq4_27dee6z4eb776)
chrisEff wrote: April 21st, 2025, 12:53 pm [...] AFAICS there seems to be no period-145 gun anywhere on the internet yet. [...]
gun_145 guntrue_145

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: April 21st, 2025, 1:20 pm
by Period1GliderGun
chrisEff wrote: April 21st, 2025, 12:53 pm I think I discovered the period-145 glider gun by simply taking away some structures from the period-435 gun...
There are several known ways to construct a p145 gun in CGoL. Your example uses a p5-assisted Herschel track, and Herschel tracks were the most practical method for adjustable guns until the discovery of the syringe; hooking up a syringe to a H-2G and some reflectors (or another syringe) is currently the best known method by bounding box for adjustable-period gun construction. Here is the current smallest p145 gun, from the Catagolue page:

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#C [[ GRID MAXGRIDSIZE 14 THEME Catagolue ]]
#CSYNTH gun_145 costs 4278 cells.
#C period 145 fullperiod 145 bbox 69 by 62
#CLL state-numbering golly
x = 69, y = 62, rule = LifeHistory
22.2A16.A$21.A2.A13.3A$16.A2.A2.A.A12.A$16.5A.A.2A11.2A$22.2A.BAB
6.5B$18.AB2A.2B3A4.BA3B$17.A.A.2A2B3A4BABA3B$17.A.B2A.2B3A.2BA2BA
4B$18.A3.2A.BAB.3B2A4B$19.2A.A.2A5.6B$20.A.A.A6.5B$19.A2.A.A5.7B$
19.2A2.A5.4B.4B$28.4B3.4B$27.4B5.4B$26.4B7.4B$25.4B9.4B$24.4B11.4B
$9.A13.4B13.4B$9.3A10.4B15.4B$12.A8.4B17.4B$11.2A7.4B19.4B$11.5B3.
4B21.4B$13.3B2.A3B23.4B$3.2A7.5BA3B25.4B$3.A8.5B3A27.4B$2A.A.B3.
10B29.4B3.4B$A2.3AB.2B2A7B30.4B2.5B5.2A$.2A2.BA3B2A7B31.B3A6B5.A$
3.4A12B32.A9B.BA.A$3.A.2B3.7B.B2A25.2A3.BA8B.B2A$4.3AB2.7B.BA.A25.
A4.11B$7.A4.4B5.A25.A.AB.11B4.A$2.5A5.4B5.2A25.2AB.10B3.3A$2.A10.
4B33.12B2.A$4.A9.4B22.2A8.12B2.2A$3.2A10.4B22.A8.16B$16.4B21.A.AB
6.13B$17.4B10.A10.2AB.3B3.13B$18.4B7.3A12.21B$19.4B5.A15.19B.B2A$
20.4B4.2A15.17B2.BA.A$13.2A6.9B14.16B7.A$14.A7.6B14.17B8.2A$14.A.
2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.20B$15.A2.A4.35B$16.2AB3.27B.7B$17.32B2.6B$7.2A9.
31B3.6B$6.A.A10.12B3A14B6.4B$6.A7.2A3.9B2A2BA3B.B.2B12.B2A2B$7.4A
3.A5.8BABA4B4.3B12.2A.B2A$5.A.A3.A4.A3.15B5.A2B.2A11.BA.A$4.A.A2.B
2AB2.2A4.13B5.A.A2B.A14.A$4.A4.2B2ABA2.2A4.13B2.A.AB2.A15.2A$.2A.A
B3.3BABA2BA.2B.8B4.2A.A.A3.A$.A2.A.2B.5B.2B2AB2A6B6.2ABA2.4A.A$2.A
.A.2A2.B2ABA2BA.2B3.4B7.B2.A.A3.A.A$.2A2.A2.A.A.ABA2.2A6.4B5.2A.2A
2.A2.A.A$3.A.A2.2A.A3.2A9.3BA5.A.A2.2A3.A$3.2A6.A.2A2.4A6.3BA4.A.A
$11.2A.A2.A2.A7.3AB4.A!
Catagolue's guntrue page (https://catagolue.hatsya.com/census/b3s ... ts/guntrue) contains all periods from 14-999 (minus the seven true periods currently unknown) and select periods above 1000, and is the reference I usually use for gun building. (The tabulation is long and annoying; to find a specific period, type in https://catagolue.hatsya.com/object/guntrue_[the period you want to find]/b3s23.

Welcome to the forums!

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: April 21st, 2025, 1:20 pm
by Macaw
Thanks!

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: April 21st, 2025, 1:37 pm
by chrisEff
Thanks for the infos, guys. Didn't know that "Catalogue" page yet. Always just used the wiki here on conwaylife.com as reference. (But also a Google search for "period 145 glider gun" didn't really turn up anything useful.)
confocaloid wrote: April 21st, 2025, 1:14 pm gun_145 guntrue_145
What's supposed to be the difference between those two? They seem to be identical... :?

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: April 21st, 2025, 1:43 pm
by confocaloid
In this case, currently, both pages show the same glider gun.

In general, the "guntrue_NNNN" pages on Catagolue always show true period glider guns. (A true period gun is one where the period of the gun mechanism is equal to the period of the resulting output glider stream.)

On the other hand, the "gun_NNNN" pages on Catagolue can show pseudo period glider guns instead, if there is a smaller known pseudo period gun. (A pseudo period gun is one where the period of the gun mechanism is a multiple of the period of the resulting output glider stream.)

Check for example gun_120 vs. guntrue_120 (currently they are different), or gun_17 (which currently shows a pseudo period gun) vs. guntrue_17 (which doesn't currently show any gun, because no true period 17 gun is currently known).
chrisEff wrote: April 21st, 2025, 1:37 pm
confocaloid wrote: April 21st, 2025, 1:14 pm gun_145 guntrue_145
What's supposed to be the difference between those two? They seem to be identical... :?

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: April 21st, 2025, 3:35 pm
by chrisEff
Thanks for the explanations!
But one more question: What's the format the Catalogue uses for the patterns and how do I convert it to RLE?

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: April 21st, 2025, 3:38 pm
by wirehead
chrisEff wrote: April 21st, 2025, 3:35 pm Thanks for the explanations!
But one more question: What's the format the Catalogue uses for the patterns and how do I convert it to RLE?
It's apgcode, but if you go to the object page for the apgcode, it will give you the RLE. Example: xs4_33 or xp2_7
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