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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: September 11th, 2018, 6:06 pm
by 77topaz
In this xp232 subcensus, every oscillator after the first is either simply a different generation of the same oscillator, or not a p232 oscillator at all: http://catagolue.appspot.com/census/b2e ... 8/C1/xp232

Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: September 23rd, 2018, 4:39 pm
by 77topaz
Every single oscillator reported in the b3aiy4ew5ace6c7c8s2-ai3-jkq4ceirt5ce6-ak7c8/C1 census is fake: the supposed xp52s are wickstretchers and the supposed xp68 is a spacefiller.

Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: October 29th, 2018, 4:45 pm
by cordership3
A 28P7.2 variant was reported recently (just yesterday), but the linked sample soup doesn't actually produce anything:

Code: Select all

x = 31, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
bobbbbbobooboobobbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
obbooobbobooboobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
obobboobbooboobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
booobbbbbooobbobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
ooobbooobooboobobbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
oobbboooooobobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
boobobbobobbobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
bbbboboobbobbboobbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
bbboobbobooooobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
oobbbbboooobobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
oobobbbobobboooobbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
ooooobbobbbboobobbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
oboobboboobooobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
bbbooooooboooobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
boboooooooooobobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
boooboobobbobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbobboboobooob$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbboboooooooooobob$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbooooboooooobbb$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbboooboobobboobo$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbboboobbbbobbooooo$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbboooobbobobbboboo$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbboboooobbbbboo$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbooooobobboobbb$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbboobbbobboobobbbb$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbobbobobboboob$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbboboooooobbboo$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbobooboobooobbooo$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbobbooobbbbbooob$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbooboobboobbobo$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbooboobobbooobbo$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbobooboobobbbbbob!

Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: October 29th, 2018, 5:56 pm
by apg
cordership3 wrote:A 28P7.2 variant was reported recently (just yesterday), but the linked sample soup doesn't actually produce anything:

Code: Select all

x = 31, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
bobbbbbobooboobobbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
obbooobbobooboobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
obobboobbooboobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
booobbbbbooobbobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
ooobbooobooboobobbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
oobbboooooobobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
boobobbobobbobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
bbbboboobbobbboobbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
bbboobbobooooobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
oobbbbboooobobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
oobobbbobobboooobbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
ooooobbobbbboobobbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
oboobboboobooobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
bbbooooooboooobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
boboooooooooobobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
boooboobobbobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbobboboobooob$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbboboooooooooobob$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbooooboooooobbb$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbboooboobobboobo$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbboboobbbbobbooooo$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbboooobbobobbboboo$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbboboooobbbbboo$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbooooobobboobbb$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbboobbbobboobobbbb$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbobbobobboboob$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbboboooooobbboo$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbobooboobooobbooo$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbobbooobbbbbooob$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbooboobboobbobo$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbooboobobbooobbo$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbobooboobobbbbbob!
It does, if you shift the lower-right soup so that it's 32x31 instead of 31x32:

Code: Select all

x = 32, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
bo5bob2ob2obo$o2b3o2bob2ob2o$obo2b2o2b2ob2o$b3o5b3o2bo$3o2b3ob2ob2obo$
2o3b6obo$b2obo2bobo2bo$4bob2o2bo3b2o$3b2o2bob5o$2o5b4obo$2obo3bobo2b4o
$5o2bo4b2obo$ob2o2bob2ob3o$3b6ob4o$bob10obo$b3ob2obo2bo8bo2bob2ob3o$
17bob10obo$18b4ob6o$18b3ob2obo2b2obo$16bob2o4bo2b5o$16b4o2bobo3bob2o$
19bob4o5b2o$18b5obo2b2o$16b2o3bo2b2obo$19bo2bobo2bob2o$19bob6o3b2o$16b
ob2ob2ob3o2b3o$17bo2b3o5b3o$18b2ob2o2b2o2bobo$17b2ob2obo2b3o2bo$16bob
2ob2obo5bo!

Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: October 30th, 2018, 12:49 pm
by Ian07
Heavpoot just accidentally submitted a couple of broken hauls to the Move/Morley census.

https://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b368 ... d2a0515916
https://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b368 ... b527d8fcdc

Each one consists of about 156 million dots and a couple of large still lifes, none of which work when you actually click on them.

Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: October 31st, 2018, 3:26 am
by Sarp
https://catagolue.appspot.com/hashsoup/ ... et_message

Also both meth and methuselah prefixes exist in the stats page
Edit: It's fixed

Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: November 5th, 2018, 7:29 am
by muzik
Catagolue seems to attempt to run bsfkl rules using lifeviewer, which doesn't currently support such rules:

http://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp8 ... 4k23l01234

This is not the case with LtL.

Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: November 5th, 2018, 11:49 am
by Apple Bottom
muzik wrote:Catagolue seems to attempt to run bsfkl rules using lifeviewer, which doesn't currently support such rules:

http://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp8 ... 4k23l01234

This is not the case with LtL.
Can we please not clutter the forum with such pointless trivialities? I'm sure LifeViewer will gain BSFKL support in due time, and when it does and when Catagolue updates its version, this "oddity" (which is really anything but) will disappear.

You really should ask yourself, before posting, whether doing so is worth alerting every single last person who subscribed to a thread, presumably on the assumption that new posts would indicate interesting, insightful, informative or otherwise worthwhile content.

Thank you.

EDIT: I should add that I wouldn't be nearly as annoyed by this if it were an isolated occurence, but it's actually a recurring pattern, no pun intended. Please see the proverb quoted in my sig, and perhaps keep it in mind when posting in the future.

Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: November 6th, 2018, 12:57 am
by dani
Apple Bottom wrote:Can we please not clutter the forum with such pointless trivialities? I'm sure LifeViewer will gain BSFKL support in due time, and when it does and when Catagolue updates its version, this "oddity" (which is really anything but) will disappear.
Okay, why is this response so hostile? Muzik posted something legitimately odd, that the colour scheme is off, and that the rule doesn't get run correctly, and the rules aren't being run correctly. Yeah, sure, it's not that much of an oddity, but why is it worth posting an entire paragraph about?

Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: November 17th, 2018, 5:10 pm
by dani
Since I created this thread, I'll add a rule:

No troll symmetries.

Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: December 2nd, 2018, 10:56 am
by wwei23
Someone hacked Catagolue and changed the logo? Who put a Santa hat there?
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: December 2nd, 2018, 10:58 am
by Freywa
wwei23 wrote:Someone hacked Catagolue and changed the logo? Who put a Santa hat there?
Goucher did.

Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: December 2nd, 2018, 1:07 pm
by gameoflifemaniac
Freywa wrote:
wwei23 wrote:Someone hacked Catagolue and changed the logo? Who put a Santa hat there?
Goucher did.
And only now I noticed that the logo is written in Comic Sans?

Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: December 2nd, 2018, 6:56 pm
by Saka
Just to clarify, adam/apg/calcyman has put a christmas theme on Catagolue. Changes include:
☆Different logo (Eater 2 with santa hat)
☆New colors for rule contribution charts (red, green, yellow)
There's also a new link to Fano on every rule's page.

Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: December 2nd, 2018, 6:58 pm
by muzik
Saka wrote:There's also a new link to Fano on every rule's page.
...even if said rule isn't outer totalistic and doesn't have a page.

Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: December 4th, 2018, 5:35 pm
by muzik
Currently multistate hexagonal rules don't use Golly-compatible rulestrings for soups.

https://catagolue.appspot.com/hashsoup/ ... g3b25s345h

Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: December 14th, 2018, 3:10 am
by apg
muzik wrote:
Saka wrote:There's also a new link to Fano on every rule's page.
...even if said rule isn't outer totalistic and doesn't have a page.
Rectified. Also, an amusing oddity: if you go to catagolue.appspot.com (no santa hat), it redirects to catagolue.appspot.com/home (with santa hat).

Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: December 14th, 2018, 4:45 am
by Saka
On the page for b3s01367/D2_+1 the tabulation has objects in a strange order: Oscillator Spaceship Stillife

EDIT:
Did you change it? It appears that it applies to all pages, not just that one. I swear it used to be oscillator-sl-spaceship or sl-osc-ship

Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: December 14th, 2018, 5:48 am
by mniemiec
Saka wrote:On the page for b3s01367/D2_+1 the tabulation has objects in a strange order: Oscillator Spaceship Stillife

EDIT:
Did you change it? It appears that it applies to all pages, not just that one. I swear it used to be oscillator-sl-spaceship or sl-osc-ship
I think that now it's ruthlessly alphabetic, in order of category names.
EDIT: never mind. It isn't.

Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: December 14th, 2018, 4:19 pm
by dani
mniemiec wrote: I think that now it's ruthlessly alphabetic, in order of category names.
No, the order is zz, PATHOLOGICAL, yl, xp, xq, xs

Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: December 14th, 2018, 5:38 pm
by muzik
Why is this pattern shifted to the left?

https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp ... 204/b2s34h

Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: December 15th, 2018, 7:57 am
by apg
muzik wrote:Why is this pattern shifted to the left?

https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp ... 204/b2s34h
Probably because the bounding box [of a hexagonal pattern] is actually a bounding rhombus, and LifeViewer chooses its initial viewport based on that.

Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: December 15th, 2018, 12:19 pm
by rowett
calcyman wrote:Probably because the bounding box [of a hexagonal pattern] is actually a bounding rhombus, and LifeViewer chooses its initial viewport based on that.
Exactly right. And one day I may improve it.

Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: December 17th, 2018, 4:43 am
by muzik

Re: Catagolue Oddities

Posted: December 17th, 2018, 3:49 pm
by apg
muzik wrote:Some disgusting troll symmetries: http://catagolue.appspot.com/census/b2- ... 3ciry4krz/
Fixed -- thanks!