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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: October 20th, 2024, 3:03 pm
by ThrashBin
Probably goes boring after about 2,000,000,000 gens:

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x = 262, y = 72, rule = B3/S23
13b2o$11bo4bo$10bo$10bo5bo$10b6o3$4o$o3bo$o$bo2bo2b2o$6b3o$bo2bo2b2o$o
$o3bo$4o43$249bo$248bobo2$248bo2bo$250b2o$251bo6$261bo$261bo$261bo!
EDIT: Goes boring after 5,033,140,264 gens.

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: October 24th, 2024, 9:20 am
by thomath
Hello, it's my first time on this forum.

I have discovered this pattern, a 41 block long line that generate 12 blocks, 4 beehives, 4 loafs and 4 pulsars.

I don't know if it's interesting, but i didn't found someone talking about it. I think it's a beautiful way to make 4 pulsars.

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x = 29, y = 44, rule = B3/S23
2$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14b
o$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14b
o$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo!

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: October 24th, 2024, 9:38 am
by confocaloid
The 1-by-n rectangles of alive cells were an early "thing to investigate".
The 41-by-1 rectangle is mentioned in One-cell-thick_pattern#With_all_cells_alive.

Welcome!
thomath wrote: October 24th, 2024, 9:20 am Hello, it's my first time on this forum.

I have discovered this pattern, a 41 block long line that generate 12 blocks, 4 beehives, 4 loafs and 4 pulsars.

I don't know if it's interesting, but i didn't found someone talking about it. I think it's a beautiful way to make 4 pulsars.

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x = 29, y = 44, rule = B3/S23
2$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14b
o$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14b
o$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo$14bo!

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: October 28th, 2024, 11:50 am
by Zodduniverse
Is this p138 blinker hassler known?

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x = 50, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
3$10b3o$9bo2bo$9bo2bo24b3o$9b2o$41b2o$31bo9bobo$31bo11bo$19b3o9bo9bob
2o$19bo2bo18b2o2bo$22bo21b2o$2b3o15b3o14b3o$2bo$2bo2bo$3b3o4$14b2o$12b
o2bo$12bo2bo$12b3o!

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: October 28th, 2024, 11:56 am
by hotdogPi
It's new. There was a list of all known oscillators on the forum that was updated today, and this isn't in that list.

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: November 3rd, 2024, 10:14 pm
by Vlev2
I discovered a 2 patterns but I am not sure if I create them.
#1: Sun
The Sun is a spark with a 5x5 bounding box and, with a lifespan of 2 generations and evolves into 4 dots.
This is what it looks like:

OOOOOOO
OXOXOXO
OOXXXOO
OXXOXXO
OOXXXOO
OXOXOXO

#2: Stable Wheel
I just discovered it today while searching for another pinwheel oscillator and I couldn’t figure out a name, so I named it a stable wheel. It is a strict still life with a 12x12 bounding box that looks like this:

OOOOOOXXOOOO
OOOOOOXXOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOXXXXOOOO
XXOXOOOOXOOO
XXOXOXXOXOOO
OOOXOXXOXOXX
OOOXOOOOXOXX
OOOOXXXXOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOXXOOOOO
OOOOXXOOOOO

This is all I have here. Thanks for reading!

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: November 3rd, 2024, 10:26 pm
by confocaloid
Welcome to the forums!
Vlev2 wrote: November 3rd, 2024, 10:14 pm
The forum software "eats" the leading whitespace in each line, which can be prevented as follows:

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O  O  O
  OOO
OO  OO
  OOO
O  O  O

             OO
             OO

         OOOO
OO  O        O
OO  O  OO  O
      O  OO  O  OO
      O         O  OO
        OOOO

        OO
        OO
Here is my attempt to redraw the patterns in Golly and copy-and-paste them into the forum post as RLE snippets:

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x = 24, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
18b2o$18b2o2$16b4o$12b2obo4bo$obobo7b2obob2obo$b3o11bob2obob2o$2ob2o
10bo4bob2o$b3o12b4o$obobo$16b2o$16b2o!
(edit: fixed second pattern)

The still life can be seen on the page xs36_gg0g88bbgz11078bb87066zy033, and has a known glider synthesis (this is also true for many other still lives, though).

Usually, neither hand-drawn big sparks nor big still lives are considered "interesting" or "noteworthy", unless a specific spark or a specific still life has some nontrivial/rare application (such as being useful for creating a rare reaction or performing a rare catalysis).

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: November 4th, 2024, 3:45 pm
by Zodduniverse
is this p56 fleet hassler known?

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x = 99, y = 84, rule = B3/S23
9$64b3o$63bo$62b2o3bo$60b3obo8b2o$48b2o9b2obobobo4bo2bo$49bo8bobo2bo9b
o$49bobo8b2o5bo5bo2b2o$50b2o2bo5bo5b2o8bobo$54bo9bo2bobo8bo$53bo2bo4b
obobob2o9b2o$53b2o8bob3o$60bo3b2o8bo3b2o5b2o$64bo7b3o3b2o5b2o$61b3o7b
o$71b2o$65bo$65bo15bobo$64bobo$66bo2b3o6b3o3b3o$64b3o2b2o6bo9bo$64b2o
2bo2bo5b3o5b3o$63b2o4b3o6bo7bo$63b2o3bob2o$62b2ob3o$63b4o11b2o5b2o$64b
2o12b2o5b2o2$39b2o$39b2o$64bo$56bo5b2ob2o$55bobo5bobo$39b2o14bob2o5bo
7bo$38bo2bo11b2ob2obo11bobo$38bobo11bo2bo2b3o9bo2bo$39bo13b3o2bo2bo9b
2o$42bo11bob2ob2o$40b2ob2o10b2obo$40b2ob2o11bobo$40b2ob2o12bo13b2o$41b
3o27b2o$41b2o$25b2o5b2o8b2o$25b2o5b2o7bo2bo$41bobo$44bo$25bo7bo6bo3bo
$24b3o5b3o4b6o$24bo9bo$25b3o3b3o7b4o$42bo2bo$28bobo11bo2bo$44bo$39b2o
$40bo7b3o$25b2o5b2o3b3o7bo$25b2o5b2o3bo8b2o3bo$44b3obo8b2o$32b2o9b2ob
obobo4bo2bo$33bo8bobo2bo9bo$33bobo8b2o5bo5bo2b2o$34b2o2bo5bo5b2o8bobo
$38bo9bo2bobo8bo$37bo2bo4bobobob2o9b2o$37b2o8bob3o$44bo3b2o$48bo$45b3o
!
I don't see it on the fleet hassler page on the wiki

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: November 17th, 2024, 3:35 am
by Tawal
A kind of AND Gate with Herschel between LWSS.
The LWSS passes through the conduit if the H is not there.
A NE Glider is emitted if H and LWSS are there.
If the LWSS is not there, the conduit works as it had to do.

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x = 125, y = 128, rule = LifeHistory
52.E.E$51.E$51.E$51.E2.E$51.3E10$121.4B$120.4B$119.4B$118.4B$117.4B$
116.4B$115.4B$114.4B$113.4B$112.4B$111.4B$110.4B$109.4B$108.4B$107.4B
$106.4B$105.4B$104.4B$103.4B$102.4B$101.4B$100.4B$99.4B$98.4B$97.4B$
96.4B$95.4B$94.4B$93.4B$92.4B$91.4B$90.4B$89.4B$88.4B$87.4B$86.4B$85.
4B$84.4B$83.4B$82.4B$81.4B$80.4B$79.4B$78.4B$77.4B$76.4B$54.B20.4B$
54.B19.4B$54.B18.4B$54.B17.4B$50.5B16.4B$50.5B2.A12.4B$50.5B2.3A9.4B$
50.5B5.A7.4B$50.5B4.2A4.6B$50.6B3.11B$50.7B4.8B$50.8B.9B$17.A11.A20.
8B.10B$17.3A9.2A20.19B$20.A9.B19.19B$7.2A10.2A9.3B17.17B$8.A10.5B5.6B
16.15B$8.A.AB9.4B3.10B11.17B$9.2AB.3B4.6B2.11B3.2B2.22B$11.7B.9BD3B2A
15BD21B3.2B2.2B$11.17B2D2B2A15BDBD4B.24BD$12.17B2D18B3D4B2.23BDBD$11.
18BD21BD4B2.23B3DB$9.19BD26B4.24BD$7.18B.B3.13B.4B10.24B$7.2BE15B5.7B
.B4.4B12.16B.4B$6.3BEBE4B.7B18.4B13.12B5.3B$7.2B3E4B2.7B34.9B6.4B$6.
5BE4B4.2B2A34.11B5.2A$5.10B3.4B2A15.B19.7B.B2A5.A$4.4B10.2A18.2B21.4B
2.BA.A.3A$4.3B12.A17.3B20.B2A2B5.A.A$2.4B10.3A17.4B21.2A7.2A$2.2A12.A
18.4B$3.A30.4B$3A30.4B$A31.4B$31.4B$30.4B$29.4B$28.4B$27.4B$26.4B$25.
4B$24.4B$23.4B$22.4B$21.4B$20.4B$19.4B$18.4B$17.4B$16.4B$15.4B$14.4B$
13.4B$12.4B$11.4B$10.4B$9.4B$8.4B$7.4B$6.4B$5.4B$4.4B$3.4B$2.4B$.4B!
Edit:
Same kind of AND gate but this time it extracts the NW Glider of HF116H (RT138) :

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x = 98, y = 227, rule = LifeHistory
59.E.E$62.E$62.E$59.E2.E$60.3E65$59.E.E$62.E$62.E$59.E2.E$60.3E65$59.
E.E$62.E$62.E$59.E2.E$60.3E10$66.A$66.3A$69.A$68.2A4.2B$64.B3.8B$25.
2A14.A20.4B4.7B$24.A2.A11.3A19.6B.9B$25.A.A10.A22.6B.10B$24.2A.2A9.2A
20.19B$27.B11.B19.19B$22.4AB2A2.B2A5.3B17.17B$22.A2.A.2A2.B2A4.6B16.
15B$27.7B3.10B11.17B$29.19B3.2B2.22B$28.9BD3B2A15BE21B3.2B2.2B$29.8B
2D2B2A15BEBE4B.24BD$30.8B2D18B3E4B2.23BDBD$23.2A5.8BD21BE4B2.23B3DB2.
2C$24.A5.7BD26B4.24BD3.2C$24.A.AB2.8B.13B.4B10.24B$25.2AB.9B.7B.B5.3B
12.16B.4B$27.11B13.4B13.12B5.3B$27.11B13.2A15.9B6.4B$27.9B.B2A12.A14.
11B5.2A$28.7B2.BA.A8.3A16.7B.B2A5.A$27.8B5.A8.A20.4B2.BA.A.3A$28.8B4.
2A27.B2A2B5.A.A$29.7B34.2A7.2A$26.11B$25.11B$25.11B$25.11B$25.B3D4B2.
B2A$25.2BD4B3.BA.A$25.2B3D2B6.A$25.6B7.2A$24.7B$23.8B$22.8B$22.8B$20.
2AB2.6B$19.A.AB.7B$19.A4.6B$18.2A4.6B$24.6B$23.8B$24.8B$23.9B$23.9B$
23.10B$23.5B2A3B$17.A5.5B2A4B3.2A$17.3A3.11B3.A$8.A11.A2.4BD7BA.A$8.
3A8.2A4.B3D4B2.2A$11.A7.6BD2B2D2B$10.2A3.B5.10B$10.8B2.11B$12.19B$12.
20B2A$11.21B2A$9.25B$7.25B$7.2BE14B4.4B$6.3BEBE4B.6B6.B.B2A.A$7.2B3E
4B2.B.5B6.B2AB3A$6.5BE4B7.2A8.B4.A$5.10B8.A8.2A.2A.A$4.4B16.3A6.A.A.A
$4.3B19.A6.A$2.4B26.2A$2.2A$3.A$3A$A!
The LWSSes are on the same lane for the 2 patterns.
So there is 2 timings in 1 lane :
- one extracts a NE Glider
- one extracts the F116's NE Glider

Each pattern has a RT138 due to the F116 conduit.

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: November 19th, 2024, 6:20 am
by Vort
ciscotheginger wrote: October 7th, 2024, 12:02 pm hey! i may have found an interesting pattern. i was inspired by the two-glider mess and wanted to go for something that would beat it somehow.
after a bit of tinkering with three gliders i came across this pattern which lasted me over 2400 iterations, and made quite a mess indeed.
...
confocaloid wrote: October 7th, 2024, 12:13 pm (What is the longest-lived known 3G collision?)
I tried to find 3G collision with highest final ash population instead (excluding infinite growth).
Result turned out to be long-lived as well.
Lifespan: 14396, Population: 1977

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x = 30, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
26bo$24bobo$25b2o$29bo$27b2o$28b2o23$b2o$obo$2bo!

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#include "lifelib/pattern2.h"

#include <iostream>
#include <fstream>

int GetPopulation(apg::pattern pat)
{
	int oldPop = pat.totalPopulation();
	for (int i = 0; i < 1000; i++)
	{
		pat = pat[100];
		int pop = pat.totalPopulation();
		if (pop == oldPop)
			return pop;
		oldPop = pop;
	}
	return -1;
}

void SavePattern(apg::pattern& pat, const std::string& fileName)
{
	std::ofstream out(fileName);
	pat.write_rle(out);
}

int main()
{
    apg::lifetree<uint32_t, 1> lt(1536);

	apg::pattern gliderstr[4] =
	{
		apg::pattern(&lt, "bo$o$3o!", "b3s23"),
		apg::pattern(&lt, "obo$2o$bo!", "b3s23"),
		apg::pattern(&lt, "o$obo$2o!", "b3s23"),
		apg::pattern(&lt, "2bo$2o$b2o!", "b3s23")
	};
	
	apg::pattern gliderstl[4] =
	{
		apg::pattern(&lt, "bo$2bo$3o!", "b3s23"),
		apg::pattern(&lt, "obo$b2o$bo!", "b3s23"),
		apg::pattern(&lt, "2bo$obo$b2o!", "b3s23"),
		apg::pattern(&lt, "o$b2o$2o!", "b3s23")
	};
	
	apg::pattern glidersbl[4] =
	{
		apg::pattern(&lt, "3o$2bo$bo!", "b3s23"),
		apg::pattern(&lt, "bo$b2o$obo!", "b3s23"),
		apg::pattern(&lt, "b2o$obo$2bo!", "b3s23"),
		apg::pattern(&lt, "2o$b2o$o!", "b3s23")
	};
	
	apg::pattern glidersbr[4] =
	{
		apg::pattern(&lt, "3o$o$bo!", "b3s23"),
		apg::pattern(&lt, "bo$2o$obo!", "b3s23"),
		apg::pattern(&lt, "2o$obo$o!", "b3s23"),
		apg::pattern(&lt, "b2o$2o$2bo!", "b3s23")
	};
	
	apg::pattern g2mess(&lt, "o$b2o$2o$5bo$4bo$4b3o!", "b3s23");

	int maxPop = -1;

	for (int y = 10; y < 50; y++)
	{
		for (int x = -50; x < 0; x++)
		{
			for (int g = 0; g < 4; g++)
			{
				apg::pattern g3mess = g2mess + glidersbl[g].shift(x, y);
				int pop = GetPopulation(g3mess);
				if (pop > 300 && pop > maxPop)
				{
					maxPop = pop;
					std::cout << maxPop << "   x = " << x << ", y = " << y << ", g = " << g << std::endl;
					std::string fileName = "mess_" + std::to_string(maxPop) + ".rle";
					SavePattern(g3mess, fileName);
				}
			}
		}
	}
	return 0;
}
upd: Lifespan: 13998, Population: 2605

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x = 111, y = 108, rule = B3/S23
o$b2o$2o99$108bo$108bobo$108b2o2$105b3o$107bo$106bo!

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: November 19th, 2024, 6:00 pm
by bean
ummm OK im pretty sure this isn't new but i wanted to share it anyway i was playing around with a grey stretcher and i separated the body from the rest of the spaceship and found that i could cut the ships a lot shorter then they were originally but im assuming that the part i was able to cut was just the connector :mrgreen:

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: November 19th, 2024, 6:05 pm
by confocaloid
bean wrote: November 19th, 2024, 6:00 pm ummm OK im pretty sure this isn't new but i wanted to share it anyway i was playing around with a grey stretcher and i separated the body from the rest of the spaceship and found that i could cut the ships a lot shorter then they were originally but im assuming that the part i was able to cut was just the connector :mrgreen:
Can you post the pattern?

If you are using Golly or LifeViewer, you can copy the RLE out of the program, and paste it as a plain-text snippet between tags [pattern] [/pattern]
For example, here I pasted the glider:

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B3/S23
bo$2bo$3o!

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: November 22nd, 2024, 12:14 pm
by Vlev2
I just discovered a new methuselah

0001000
1010101
1101011

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: November 22nd, 2024, 12:37 pm
by confocaloid

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x = 7, y = 3, rule = B3/S23
3bo$obobobo$2obob2o!
With initial bounding box 7-by-3 and initial population 10 bits, it's unlikely to be "new" (small patterns were repeatedly enumerated for different purposes).
It's also not too noteworthy as a methuselah, because its lifespan is only 572 ticks. The simple R-pentomino (or the F-pentomino, if you prefer Golomb's notation) is a methuselah with initial bounding box 3-by-3, initial population 5 bits, and lifespan 1103 ticks:

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B3/S23
b2o$2o$bo!
#C [[ ZOOM 4 ]]
Vlev2 wrote: November 22nd, 2024, 12:14 pm I just discovered a new methuselah

0001000
1010101
1101011
Check this page: List of long-lived methuselahs

In most cases, what appears to be a "new methuselah" is either already known, or nonnotable (because there are examples that last longer for the same or smaller initial bounding box area, and for the same or smaller initial population), or both.

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: November 22nd, 2024, 12:42 pm
by hotdogPi
9 cells:

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x = 7, y = 3, rule = B3/S23
bo4bo$3b3o$2o2b2o!

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: November 23rd, 2024, 8:01 pm
by Tawal
hotdogPi wrote: November 22nd, 2024, 12:42 pm 9 cells:

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x = 7, y = 3, rule = B3/S23
bo4bo$3b3o$2o2b2o!
Can you explain how did you find it ?
Thanks a lot :)

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: November 23rd, 2024, 9:03 pm
by hotdogPi
I advanced it about 20 generations, used octo3obj on that, and looked through the 8 or so results it gave me.

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: November 23rd, 2024, 10:39 pm
by Timelord Missionary
Vlev2 wrote: November 22nd, 2024, 12:14 pm I just discovered a new methuselah

0001000
1010101
1101011
[edited] I believe I have discovered a wick using this this sequence:
Timelord Missionary wrote: November 10th, 2024, 12:26 pm 5c/16 block fuse (I combined two to make them clean)

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x = 70, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
$5b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o$5b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o
3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o4b2o$65bob2o$64b3o$63b3o$64b3o$65bob2o$2o
3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o4b2o$2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b
2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o4$2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o
3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o$2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o4b
2o$65bob2o$64b3o$63b3o$64b3o$65bob2o$5b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o
3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o4b2o$5b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o
!
Probably not of much use.
Of course, I am probably only beating a dead horse here by posting this. I hope it doesn't bother you too much

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: November 23rd, 2024, 10:51 pm
by confocaloid
Timelord Missionary wrote: November 23rd, 2024, 10:38 pm I think I already used this pattern in a wick:
[...]
Of course, I am probably only beating a dead horse here by posting this. I hope it doesn't bother you too much.
Not exactly "this pattern", though. As far as I can tell, the exact pattern never occurs during evolution of the fuse. It looks more like another predecessor of a later generation of that pattern (converging sequences).

Additionally, I'm not sure whether "used this [sequence?]" is a good way to describe the situation when the evolutionary sequence "just so happened to" appear in a pattern, without an intent to use that particular sequence.
(For example, even though the Herschel happens to appear in the evolution of the R-pentomino, it would be a bad explanation of the situation to claim that "the R-pentomino uses the Herschel".)

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x = 34, y = 30, rule = B3/S23
30b2o$30bo$31bo$30bobo$31bo$30bo$30b2o15$2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o$2o3b2o
3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o4b2o$30bob2o$29b3o$28b3o$29b3o$30bob2o$2o3b2o3b2o3b2o
3b2o3b2o4b2o$2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o!

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: November 25th, 2024, 3:11 pm
by Jormungant
Nothing new here, but that's a gun all right.

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x = 135, y = 117, rule = LifeHistory
7$36.2A$36.A$37.A$34.4A2.A$33.A4.3A$32.A.AB.A$32.B2A2B.A$33.3B.2A$31.
4B$31.4B$29.8B$26.12B9.2A5.A$25.14B7.B2AB3.A.A$26.14B6.3B4.A.A$26.15B
6.B4.2A.3A$25.16B4.5B3.B4.A$25.17B3.5B.B2AB3A$24.11B2A6B2.5B.B2A.A$
23.11BA2BA16B$23.11BA2BA14B8.C$19.A.2AB2.9B2A16B5.3C$17.3AB2AB4.11B3D
11B4.C2B$16.A4.B6.11BD13B3.B2CD52.A21.B$17.3A.2A5.12BD7B2A2B3.4B53.3A
18.2B$19.A.A6.5B.2B2.9BAB2AB2.4B57.A16.3B$21.A4.2A3B7.8BA2B2A6B57.2A
15.4B$21.2A2.A2BA13.2BA4BA8B56.5B11.4B$18.2A.A3.BABA11.B.BA15B.B55.4B
9.2A2B$18.2A.A.4BA11.2A2BA5BA8B.B2A52.7B7.ABAB$21.A.2AB13.2A2B3A3B2A
9B2A52.10B3.3BA$21.A.BAB14.6B4A8B.2B52.12B.4B$22.A4.A10.5B2.2B2A9B53.
18B$23.5A10.2A6.BA8B55.17B$39.A5.11B54.17B$25.A10.3A5.12B53.13BA3B$
24.A.A9.A6.13B52.14B2A3B$25.A16.15B51.13BABA2B$41.2B.16B47.19B$40.21B
45.19B$38.25B42.5B2A14B$38.25B42.5B2A12B.B2D$37.27B40.19B2.BD.D$37.
27B39.20B5.D$36.29B20.A17.20B5.2D$37.28B19.A.A15.18B.B$37.6B2.11B2.8B
17.A.A2.AB9.B.20B$37.3B.B4.B.8B3.B.6B14.3A2.2A.AB.B5.2AB.18B$35.2CB
11.4B.B7.6B12.A3.2A2.BA2B2A4.2A22B$34.C.CB11.3B11.6B12.3A2.3AB.B2A5.
2B.17B.2A$34.C13.4B12.6B13.A.A2.2B2.B9.15B3.A$33.2C13.3BAB12.6B12.BAB
AB14.15B4.3A$49.BABAB12.6B12.BA3B12.16B6.A$44.B2.2B2.A.A13.6B12.4B11.
15B.B2A$43.2AB.B3A2.3A12.6B11.3B11.8B.6B2.BA.A$43.2A2BAB2.2A3.A12.6B
7.B.4B10.8B2.7B4.A$44.B.BA.2A2.3A14.6B.B3.8B.B4.B.8B3.7B4.2A$47.BA2.A
.A17.8B2.11B2.10B5.7BA$50.A.A19.31B6.5B2.5A$51.A20.30B8.2B2C6.A$73.
28B6.AB.2B2CB3.A$73.27B6.A.A6B3.2A$74.25B6.A.A.3B.B$74.25B5.A2.A.A2.
3B$76.21B7.2A2.4A.A.A.2A$77.19B16.2A.2A.A$80.15B13.3C3.A$81.13B6.A7.C
2.2CA2.2C$81.12B5.3A10.C5.C$81.11B5.A19.C.C$81.10B6.2A10.5A4.2C$79.
13B2.5B10.A4.A$76.2B.18B14.BAB.A$75.2A19B2A13.B2A.A$75.2AB.17B2A11.A
4B.A.2A$76.B.17B.B11.ABAB3.A.2A$79.16B13.A2BA2.2A$80.19B7.3B2A4.A$79.
4B2.14B2.2B.5B6.A.A$78.4B3.11BD12B5.2A.3A$77.4B3.13BD11B6.B4.A$76.4B
4.11B3D11B4.B2AB3A$73.B.4B5.16B2A9B2.B2A.A$69.A4.4B7.14BA2BA11B$56.2A
9.3A3.4B6.16BA2BA11B$57.A8.A5.4B5.A.2AB.5B2.6B2A11B$54.3A3.A5.2A3.4B
4.3AB2AB.5B3.17B$53.A3.4A3.4B2.4B4.A4.B3.5B4.16B$53.A.A.B3.5B3.4B6.3A
.2A4.B6.15B$54.2AB2A13B9.A.A4.3B6.14B$57.2A12B10.A.A3.B2AB7.14B$54.2A
3.11B12.A5.2A9.12B$54.A4.6BD3B31.8B$55.A3.5BD3B34.4B$54.2A2.6B3D35.4B
$58.9B31.2A.3B$58.9B31.A.2B2AB$56.2AB.3B2A2B32.A.BA.A$55.A.AB.2BA2BA
3B27.3A4.A$55.A5.BABA3B2A26.A2.4A$54.2A3.4BA2B.BA.A.2A25.A$59.2A6.2B.
A.A27.A$60.A7.B2A2.A25.2A$57.3A8.B2.2A$57.A11.2A$70.A$69.A$69.2A!
Not sure why, I did put that g-to-p in the collection, but I thought the only things downstream of it were p-to-g, but apparently I was wrong:

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x = 237, y = 94, rule = LifeHistory
21$71.A$70.A$70.3A4$49.B$49.2B$49.3B.4B25.2A$49.4B.4B3.B14.2A5.A91.4B
6.A$50.4B.4B.3B13.A.A.3A93.4B4.A$51.4B.3B.3B15.A.A96.4B.B.3A$46.2A4.
4B.7B13.B2AB92.2B3.7B5.2A$45.B2AB4.4B.7B11.4B88.2A4.B4.7B3.B2AB$46.3B
5.17B3.5B88.B2AB9.7B2.4B6.2A$33.A11.B.B6.17B3.7B87.3B6.12B.2B.B5.A$
32.A.A7.B.6B4.28B73.A11.B.B6.19B.BA.A$32.A.A7.8B2.30B72.A.A7.B.6B4.
19B.B2A$30.3AB2A5.41B72.A.A7.8B2.23B$29.A3.2B7.42B68.3AB2A5.33B21.B$
30.3AB2AB6.33BD10BD63.A3.2B7.33B19.3B$32.A.2AB.3B2.33B2D10BD63.3AB2AB
6.33B16.6B$34.23B3D15B2D11B2D64.A.2AB.3B2.34B.2B6.4B2.7B$36.23BD12B2.
13B2D67.23B3D22B2.15B$30.B2.24B3D12B3.12BD70.23BD27BD11B$29.2AB.39B4.
B2.8B65.B2.24B3D27BDBD9B$29.2A41B7.2B3.B66.2AB.54B3DB2A6B$30.21B3.17B
9.AB69.2A58BDB2A6B$32.2BD15B5.10B3.B10.A.A70.21B3.45B$31.3BDBD12B7.8B
15.2A73.2BD15B5.30B3.11B$32.2B3D12B7.7B90.3BDBD12B7.21B2.5B6.B2.6B$
31.5BD13B6.2E96.2B3D12B7.20B17.6B$34.5B2.3B2.4B7.E95.5BD13B6.2E3.14B
18.6B$21.2A9.6B2.4B.B2A2B4.3E99.5B2.3B2.4B7.E3.13B19.6B$22.A8.7B3.3B
2.2A.B2A2.E88.2A9.6B2.4B.B2A2B4.3E5.12B20.5B$22.A.2A4.14B5.BA.A.A89.A
8.7B3.3B2.2A.B2A2.E8.10B21.4B$18.A.2A.A.A3.7B2A4B10.A.A.2A86.A.2A4.
14B5.BA.A.A7.A2.B4.5B$18.2A.A2.B3.7BA2BA3B10.A.A.2A82.A.2A.A.A3.7B2A
4B10.A.A.2A3.A.A9.2A$21.A.3B2.7BA2BA4B10.A86.2A.A2.B3.7BA2BA3B10.A.A.
2A4.A10.A$21.A.2A11B2A5B100.A.3B2.7BA2BA4B10.A20.3A$22.A.A17B101.A.2A
11B2A5B33.A$23.AB.17B101.A.A17B$26.17B102.AB.17B$28.16B104.17B$28.16B
106.16B$29.15B2A104.16B$29.10B4.A2BA2.2A100.15B2A$29.10B4.ABAB3.A2.A
97.10B4.A2BA2.2A$30.B2.5B6.A4B.A.A.A96.10B4.ABAB3.A2.A$35.3B8.B2A.A2.
A98.B2.5B6.A4B.A.A.A$36.4B6.BAB.A106.3B8.B2A.A2.A$38.2A.A2.A4.A108.4B
6.BAB.A$38.2AB8A111.2A.A2.A4.A$39.B120.2AB8A$38.2A.2A2.2A114.B$39.A.A
3.2A113.2A.2A2.2A$39.A.A119.A.A3.2A$40.A120.A.A$162.A!

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: November 28th, 2024, 11:04 am
by Stonewallkid
I think I found a 5-cell that takes 2 generations longer to stabilize. I'm new to the game, so IF i'm counting correctly it dies after 1,105 instead of 1,103 like R-pentomino. IF it's really a new discovery, and IF I get to name it, I'd like Juno for the J shape.

XXXXOX
XXXOXX
XOXOXX
XXOXXX


Sorry if I broke all the rules. I couldn't figure out the RLE thing.

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: November 28th, 2024, 11:09 am
by hotdogPi
Lifeline Volume 4 enumerates all patterns with 6 or fewer cells. (The 7 column only counts heptominoes, not all 7-cell patterns.)

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: November 28th, 2024, 11:13 am
by confocaloid
Stonewallkid wrote: November 28th, 2024, 11:04 am XXXXOX
XXXOXX
XOXOXX
XXOXXX

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x = 4, y = 4, rule = B3/S23
3bo$2bo$obo$bo!
Its lifespan is 2 ticks higher than the lifespan of R-pentomino, because it evolves into the R-pentomino two ticks later.

If you know about the R-pentomino, and if you are interested in notable long-lived patterns, then the pages List of long-lived methuselahs and LW:NB should be helpful.

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: November 28th, 2024, 11:14 am
by Tawal
Stonewallkid wrote: November 28th, 2024, 11:04 am I think I found a 5-cell that takes 2 generations longer to stabilize. I'm new to the game, so IF i'm counting correctly it dies after 1,105 instead of 1,103 like R-pentomino. IF it's really a new discovery, and IF I get to name it, I'd like Juno for the J shape.

XXXXOX
XXXOXX
XOXOXX
XXOXXX


Sorry if I broke all the rules. I couldn't figure out the RLE thing.
It's just a known R predecessor : see R-pentomino LifeWiki page

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: December 2nd, 2024, 12:02 pm
by Jormungant
Found yet another 3-glider synthesis for longboat, which is not in the list (on life wiki)

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x = 77, y = 57, rule = LifeHistory
6$63.C.C$63.2C$64.C2$41.C$6.2A31.C.C$5.ABA32.2C23.C$5.2BA56.C$5.2B2.
3A52.3C$5.B3.A2B$10.AB$11.B$7.2A$6.2B2A$5.2BAB18$63.C.C$63.2C$64.C3$
40.C.C$41.2C22.C$41.C22.C$64.3C!
Strangely enough, 2 glider match another 3-glider recipe, and gives another long boat with same parity and orientation, (but different lan for reflections, allowing a shift by 12. Also, it is built outside of the reach of the lane of gliders used in the synthesis.
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