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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: July 6th, 2024, 5:54 pm
by Supersuthiastic
BLSE in the first 500000 gens:

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x = 169, y = 65, rule = B3/S23
27bobo$26bo113b3o$27bo2bo107bo$29bobo91bo13b2o$32bo11b3o76bo11bo2bo$
31b3o89bo11bobo$31bo105bo$29b2o91bo14b2o$31bo13b3o73bobo13bobo$14bo14b
o2bo12b3o5b2o59b2o8bo11b2o16bo$13bobo13bobo13b2o6b2o59b2o5bo2bo14b2o
13bo$29bo14bo77bob2o12bo6bo8bo$13bo2bo3bob3o17b2o2bo77b3o18bobo$15bo4b
o22bo3bo73b2ob2o18bo3bo2b3o$16bob2obobo19bo2bo74b2o2bo20b5obo$17b2o3bo
21b3o75b3o21bo$18bo104bo26b2o$61b2o43b2o$61b2o43b2o2$25bo110bo$25bo5b
3o101b4o3b3o$24bobo3b2o2bo99b2ob2o3bobo$25bo3bo5bo103bo2b3o$25bo3bo
104bo3b2o$30bo2b2o25bo8b2o27b2o8bo26b4o$bobo27b2o26bobo7b2o27b2o7bobo
25b3o$o58bobo44b2ob2o55b3o$bo2bo54bo2bo43bo2bo54bo$3bobo54bobo42b3o55b
2o$6bo56bo41bobo53bo2bo$5b3o54b2o41b2o54bobo$5bo56bo42b2o56bo$3b2o158b
2o$5bo157bobo$3bo2bo31bo90b2o31b2o$3bobo31bob2o86b4o34b2o$3bo36b2o85b
3o34bo$35bo6bo83bo$34bo3b4o85b3o3b2o$35bo4bo86b2o3$126bo$41b3o81b3o$
40bo3bo83bo$41b2o80b2ob2o$7b2o34b2ob2o73b2ob3o33b2o$7b2o36b2o74b4o35b
2o3$34bo99bo$33bobo97bobo$33bobo28b2o37b2o27b2ob2o$33bo2bo27bobo37b2o
26bo2bo$15b2o17bobo27bo38bo27b3o18b2o$15b2o20bo93bobo18b2o$36b2o93b2o$
36bo94b2o5$23b2o119b2o$23b2o119b2o!

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: July 7th, 2024, 2:16 am
by johamwit
Supersuthiastic wrote: July 6th, 2024, 5:54 pm BLSE in the first 500000 gens:
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Do you mean this - probably known & unimportant - clean BLSE ?:

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x = 0, y = 0, rule = B3/S23
18$60bo$44b2ob2o6bob2o2b2o$44b2o8bob5o$44b2obobo5bo4b2o$47bobo11bobo$
48b2o$61b3o6b2o$34b3o33b2o$34b3o2$34bob2o$34bo3bo$36b3o2$45bo32b2o$44b
3o31b2o$43b2ob2o$42b2obobo$41b3o2b3o$42bo6bo$35bo7b5obo$35bo8b4ob2o$
35bo13bo36b2o$34b3o11bo37b2o2$34b2obo$36bo$18b2ob2o23bo$18b2o24b2obo$
18b2obobo$21bobo23bo46b2o$22b2o20bo2bo46b2o$45bo2$50b2o$45bo5b2o$46bo
3b2o$45b2o3bo$45bo$47bo$44bo$43b2o2bo$41bo2bobo$41b2o$24b2o14bo$24b2o
9b2o2b2o$35b2o2bo$36bob2o$37b2o4$32b2o$32b2o7$40b2o$40b2o7$48b2o$48b2o
!
What happens after waiting for 500 kgens ?

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: July 7th, 2024, 10:20 am
by tommyaweosme
i ran it in golly. a blse came out of the chaos heading southeast.

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: July 7th, 2024, 1:41 pm
by roolif
tommyaweosme wrote: July 7th, 2024, 10:20 am
Discovered half a century ago by Charles Corderman. The most common naturally-occurring pattern that exhibits infinite growth.

LifeWiki entry

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: July 11th, 2024, 4:36 pm
by Tawal
Some Loafer+G reactions.
The 4th "double reflects" the glider.

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x = 378, y = 59, rule = LifeHistory
11$30.A$29.A71.A$29.3A68.A$100.3A87.A$189.A$189.3A3$359.A$358.A$358.
3A4$9.2A4.2A$9.3A.2A2.A69.2A4.2A$14.A.A70.3A.2A2.A$15.A76.A.A70.A.A2.
3A$9.A83.A71.A.A.2A2.A$9.3A75.A78.A2.2A.A$12.A74.3A81.A$10.2A78.A74.A
$10.A77.2A75.3A157.2A$88.A76.A2.A155.A2.A$166.2A156.A2.A$166.2A155.2A
.A$324.A$329.2A$325.A.2A2.A$324.A.A5.A$327.5A$330.A!

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: July 15th, 2024, 1:49 am
by Entity Valkyrie 2
I don't know if it had been noted previously, but the AK-94 actually has several isomers:

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x = 91, y = 38, rule = B3/S23
15b2o3bo22bo3b2o27bo3b2o$16bo2bobo20bobo2bo27bobo2bo$14bo4bobo20bobo4b
o25bobo4bo$14b5obo22bob5o26bob5o$18bo26bo32bo$7b2o5b2o3bo24bo3b2o5b2o
20bo3b2o5b2o$8bo5b2o4bo22bo4b2o5bo20bo4b2o5bo$8bobo8b2o22b2o8bobo20b2o
8bobo$9b2o42b2o31b2o5$23b2o31b2o31b2o$15b3o5b2o23b3o5b2o23b3o5b2o$2o
12bo3bo14b2o12bo3bo14b2o12bo3bo$bo11bo5bo14bo11bo5bo14bo11bo5bo$bobo9b
o5bo14bobo9bo5bo14bobo9bo5bo$2b2o9bo5bo15b2o9bo5bo15b2o9bo5bo$14bo3bo
2b2o24bo3bo2b2o24bo3bo2b2o$15b3o3bobo24b3o3bobo24b3o3bobo$23bo32bo32bo
$23b2o31b2o31b2o$2o31b2o31b2o$2o31b2o31b2o5$14b2o31b2o20b2o$4b2o8bobo
20b2o8bobo18bobo8b2o$4bo4b2o5bo20bo4b2o5bo18bo5b2o4bo$5bo3b2o5b2o20bo
3b2o5b2o16b2o5b2o3bo$6bo32bo38bo$4bob5o26bob5o30b5obo$3bobo4bo25bobo4b
o30bo4bobo$3bobo2bo27bobo2bo34bo2bobo$4bo3b2o27bo3b2o32b2o3bo!

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: July 15th, 2024, 11:17 am
by C28
no idea

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x = 19, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
13bo$11b3o$10bo$10b2o$14b2o$15bo$2o13bob2o$b2o11b2o2bo$bo9bo4b2o$11b5o
$9b2o4bo$10bo2b2o$10bobo$8bobobo$6b3ob2o$5bo3bo$5bobobo$6bobo$7bo!
EDIT by dvgrn: eater 4 variant plus fishhook eater convert an incoming R-pentomino into a honeyfarm a good distance from the catalysts. The honeyfarm is on the most common path that an incoming R would have taken, though.

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: July 15th, 2024, 1:08 pm
by confocaloid
Bronco can be followed by the B-to-I followed by the single-block I-to-R followed by RSW3T42, resulting in a slow 90-degree glider reflector with transparent output lane. Here is a p807 glider gun, made by attaching a component from G-to-X (November 2023):

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#C [[ MAXGRIDSIZE 9 KILLGLIDERS ]]
x = 92, y = 84, rule = LifeHistory
49.2A$46.2A2.A25.AB.BA2B$44.3A.2A23.B3A3B2A2B$34.2A7.A4.B4.5B14.B3A8B
$23.2A8.B2AB7.3AB2AB.7B13.A2BA3BABA2B$15.2A6.A10.2B10.A.2AB.9B12.3ABA
2BABAB$16.A3.2A.A9.2B15.12B5.6B.BA6BAB$14.A5.A.A10.3B14.12B4.9BA12B$
14.5A.A10.5B16.10B3.10BD2A2BA9B$9.2A7.A.2A9.6B14.10B3.11BDCBA12B$8.A
2.A2.2A2.7B5.7B13.14B.11B2D13BA$8.A.A2.A.A3.2B.4B5.7B11.23B3ABD12BABA
$9.A.2A.B4.9B4.6B7.28BABDA13B2A$11.A2.2B.12B3.7B5.2D28B2A2B.13B$11.A.
BA23B4.2B2D28B3AB2.2B.8B$10.2A.A.A57B.3B6.7B$11.A.ABA.56B12.4B$11.A2.
A3.32B3D20B13.4B$12.2A3.2A20BA12BD21B10.A.A.A.A$17.2A19BABA9B3D20B10.
A.2A.2A.A$18.20BABA32B10.A3.A3.A$17.19B.2BA5B.26B10.2A3.A.2A$17.17B4.
3B.B3.26B16.A$17.15B14.26B14.A.A$15.2AB.10B18.25B14.2A$14.A.AB2.10B
19.24B$14.A5.11B17.27B$13.2A5.12B16.27B$21.12B15.27B$22.7B.4B13.26B.B
2A$23.5B3.4B12.26B.BA.A$23.4B5.4B12.13B2.9B5.A$25.B7.4B11.13B3.3B10.
2A$34.4B10.5B3.4B3.4B$35.4B11.B4.4B3.B2A2B$36.4B14.4B5.2A$37.4B12.4B$
38.4B10.4B$16.A.2A19.4B8.4B$16.2A.A20.4B6.4B$41.12B$14.5A21.12B$2A12.
A4.A2.2A13.B.12B4.2A$A5.2A8.BAB.A2.A12.2AB.12B2.B2AB$.3A.A.A8.B2A.A.A
13.2A15B.3B$3.A.A8.A4B.A.2A13.2B.14B.B$4.2AB3.2B.ABAB3.A19.17B$4.2B2.
5BA2BA2.2A19.19B$2.B2.9B2A23.20B$.2A12B23.20B2A$.2A13B10.A11.11B2D7B
2A$2.B.12B8.3A11.12B2D5B.B$5.10B8.A13.13BD5B$6.9B8.2A11.20B$7.8B4.6B
10.9B3D9B$6.9B.7B11.4B.5BD2BD8B$6.18B9.4B4.7BD7B$6.19B7.7B.5BDBD9B$4.
22B5.15BD7B2AB$4.26BD22BABAB$4.27BD18B2.B2A2B$4.27B2D17B4.B.B2A$5.25B
2D2B2A13B2A5.BA.A$5.25BD3B2A13B2A8.A$3.26B.18B11.2A$3.25B2.10B2.5B$2.
2B2A21B4.6B5.7B$2.2B2A20B6.3B8.B3.2A$3.23B6.B14.A$5.21B5.2A15.3A$2A5.
19B5.A18.A$.A5.11BABA5B6.A$.A.AB2.11B2A6B2A3.2A$2.2AB.13BA6BA.A$4.20B
4.A$3.15B2A3B5.2A$4.14B2A$2.2AB2.11B$.A.AB2.6B$.A6.5B$2A8.B.B$9.3B$9.
B2AB$10.2A!

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: July 17th, 2024, 1:59 pm
by vilc
Is this queen-bee stabilisation known? It occured in the C1 census (xp30_w33zgka9akgzzxgw4a6zx37).

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x = 12, y = 28, rule = B3/S23
2$4b2o$4b2o4$5bo$4bobo$3bo3bo$4b3o$2b2o3b2o7$9b2o$8bobo$9bo$5bo$5b2o$
5b2o$6bo!
10G synthesis based on the soup:

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x = 191, y = 24, rule = B3/S23
112bo$4bo15bo90bo$5bo13bobo75bo13b3o63bo$3b3o14b2o74bobo77bobo10b2o$
97b2o78b2o10b2o$84bo79bo$83bobo77bobo$83bobo28b3o46bobo$84bo29bo49bo$
3o112bo$2bo$bo165b2o$167bobo$167bo6$162b2o17b3o$163b2o16bo$157b2o3bo
19bo$156bobo$158bo!
Perhaps the boat+toad catalysis can be useful somewhere else.

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x = 7, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
3bo$4bo$3bo$3o$3o2b2o$4bobo$5bo$b2o$o$3bo$b2o!

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: July 17th, 2024, 3:46 pm
by Tawal
2 ways to hit a Boat with a Glider :

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x = 73, y = 30, rule = LifeHistory
7$11.C39.C$10.C.C37.C.C$10.2C38.2C4$55.2A$55.A.A$57.A$9.2A46.2A$9.2A$
26.3E37.3E$26.E39.E$27.E39.E!

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: July 19th, 2024, 7:52 am
by confocaloid
Interactions that allow the bait block to reform leave another inaccessible block. Is there a way to get rid of that block?

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x = 132, y = 20, rule = LifeHistory
4.A6.2E5.2E34.A6.2E5.2E34.A6.2E5.2E$5.2A4.2E5.2E3.2E30.2A4.2E5.2E3.2E
30.2A4.2E5.2E3.2E$4.2A17.2E5.2E22.2A17.2E5.2E22.2A17.2E5.2E$30.E49.E
49.E$28.E.E47.E.E47.E.E$28.2E48.2E48.2E4$28.2E48.2E48.2E$28.E.E47.E.E
47.E.E$30.E49.E49.E$30.2E48.2E48.2E$2A$2A12.2C48.2C48.2C$14.2C48.2C
48.2C$21.2E48.2E31.2A15.2E$21.E49.E31.A2.A14.E$22.3E28.2A17.3E29.2A
16.3E$24.E28.2A19.E49.E!
Kazyan wrote: November 5th, 2017, 8:45 pm A what looks like a new way to restore bait from a Pi explosion, but I'm not sure if it can do anything useful. Any takers?

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x = 28, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
o6b2o5b2o$b2o4b2o5b2o3b2o$2o17b2o5b2o$26bo$24bobo$24b2o4$24b2o$24bobo$
26bo$26b2o2$10b2o$10b2o$17b2o$17bo$18b3o$20bo!

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: July 22nd, 2024, 7:33 am
by Tawal
Two pre-Interchanges gives 2 opposites Gliders :

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x = 30, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
3bo19bo$b2ob2o15b2ob2o$6bo19bo$o19bo2$28bo$4bo17bo$2b2ob2o16b2ob2o$7bo
17bo$bo!

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: July 22nd, 2024, 11:03 pm
by confocaloid
Dependent Herschel to banana spark, shown connected to dependent syringe to make a neo-Spartan glider to banana spark converter:

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x = 72, y = 50, rule = LifeHistory
A$.2A$2A18$19.CBC5.A34.2A$19.B2CB4.3A31.B2AB6.A$20.C3B6.A31.2B5.3A$
21.4B4.2A21.B10.2B3.A$22.4B2.2B21.3B8.5B.2A$15.2A6.8B18.6B7.4B.3B$16.
A7.7B12.4B2.7B5.7B$16.A.2A5.7B2.B2.2B2.19B.7B2A$17.A2.A4.19BD22BA2BA$
18.2AB3.20BDBD21B2A$19.14B2A9B3DB2A18B$20.13B2A11BDB2A18B$21.49B$21.
17B.B5.25B$22.15B10.B2.19B$22.15B13.17B$23.13B14.8B2.7B$25.13B12.8B4.
4B$24.8B4.2A.A11.7B$24.6B6.2AB3A9.7B$24.5B8.B4.A8.6B$24.B.B9.2A.3A10.
6B$25.3B9.A.A12.5B$24.B2AB9.A.A11.6B$25.2A11.A12.6B$52.5B$52.5B$53.D
2B$53.BDB$54.D!

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: July 24th, 2024, 5:51 pm
by Tawal
G + Boat + Block = One Time 4hd Shifter :

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x = 7, y = 15, rule = LifeHistory
.A$2.A$3A6$3.C$2.C.C$2.2C3$.2C$.2C!
#C [[ Z 8 ]]

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: July 24th, 2024, 6:16 pm
by confocaloid
The same block-to-beehive transformation can be performed from two opposite sides, which might be useful in different situations:

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x = 22, y = 40, rule = LifeHistory
20.A$19.A.A$19.A.A$20.A$9.D$.2A6.D.D$2.2A5.3D$.2A8.D$.A2$16.2C$16.2C$
2.2A$3.A$3A$A5$16.2C$16.2C7$12.D$4.2A6.D.D$5.2A5.3D$4.2A8.D$4.A4$5.2A
$6.A$3.3A$3.A!

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: July 29th, 2024, 3:17 am
by Jormungant
there is the g0-to-h, not sure if that was pointed out before... it basically stem from a g-to-h'

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x = 101, y = 110, rule = LifeHistory
3$58.A6.A.2A$57.A.A.A.3A.2A$56.A2.A.2A8.2A$56.A.A.A3.5A3.A$57.2A.A.2A
3.A2.A$59.B2A2.2A3.3A$55.4B2.2BA2B6.A9.2A$54.8A.3A5.2A9.A$54.A.A5BA.A
B5.5B3.BA.A$55.BA6BA9.5B.B2A$53.4BA4B9.9B$53.2A4.2AB3.3B2.11B$54.A3.
3B3.17B$51.3A4.3B.B.18B$51.A5.8B3A5B3A6B3.A7.2B$56.9BA3BABA3BA5B3.A.A
5.BAB$41.A13.8B2AB2A5B2AB2A3B2.2BAB5.3A2B$41.3A10.9BA13BA2B2.B.2B5.AB
3AB$44.A8.10BABA3B3A3BABA4BA3B4.A.2BAB$43.2A.B5.12B3A7B3AB.B2AB2AB2.B
A2B.A$43.5B2.5B2.21B2.A4BA2B3ABA$34.2A9.9B5.11BA6B4.5B.2B3A$33.A.A8.
9B7.9B3A3B6.A5B2.BAB$33.A8.B.8B9.5B.9B7.4B2.2B$30.2A.AB.B3.11B11.3B2.
9B6.BA2BA$31.A.A.2AB.3B2AB4.2B10.4B3.6B.B2A5.2A$31.A.A.2A5B2AB4.2B10.
B2AB3.6B.BA.A$30.2A.A2.9B4.2B11.2A4.5B5.A$30.A2.4A12B.B2A2.2A.2A9.3B
6.2A$31.2A2.BAB.10B.BA.A2.A.2A$33.2A6.7B5.2A.A$33.A7.7B5.A2.A$35.A9.
4B6.AB2A$34.2A10.4B4.2A.A.A$47.4B4.B.BAB$48.4B2.5B5.2A$49.9B6.A$50.3B
D5B2.BA.A$51.3BD5B.B2A$50.2B3D7B$50.12B$50.12B$48.2AB.2B2A5B$47.A.AB
2.ABA5B$47.A5.BA6B6.2A$46.2A6.7B5.A.A$55.8B3.A$55.9B.2A$54.9BA3.2A$
53.4B.B.3B3A2.A$52.4B.3B2.B3.2A$51.4B2.B2AB2.2A.A$50.4B4.2A4.A.A.A$
49.4B11.A2.2A$48.4B11.2A$47.4B$46.4B$45.4B$44.4B$43.4B$42.4B$41.4B$
40.4B$39.4B$15.A8.A13.4B$14.A.A7.3A10.4B$14.A.A10.A8.4B$12.3AB2A8.2A
7.4B$11.A3.2B9.5B3.4B$12.3AB2AB9.4B.4B$14.A.2AB.3B4.10B.B$16.33B2.B$
18.14B2D11BD7B$12.B2.17B2D9B3D7B$11.2AB.28BDBD9B$11.2A30BD11B$12.20B.
B2.2B2.2B2.10BAB$14.2BD13B14.9BABA$13.3BDBD11B15.8BABA$14.2B3D13B14.
8BA$13.5BD8B3.2A13.10B$12.9BC4B4.A14.9B$3.2A6.9BC5B5.3A11.8B$4.A6.9B
3C3B7.A12.7B$4.A.2A.17B21.5B$A.2A.A.A.9B2A4B24.2B$2A.A2.B3.7BA2BA3B$
3.A.12BA2BA4B$3.A.2A11B2A5B$4.A.A17B$5.AB.17B$8.17B$10.16B$10.16B$11.
15B2A$11.10B4.A2BA2.2A$11.10B4.ABAB3.A2.A$12.B2.5B6.A4B.A.A.A$17.3B8.
B2A.A2.A$18.4B6.BAB.A$20.2A.A2.A4.A$20.2AB8A$21.B$20.2A.2A2.2A$21.A.A
3.2A$21.A.A$22.A!
which in turn can be made into a g-to-h:

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x = 82, y = 55, rule = LifeHistory
3$56.2B2.2B2.B$54.D11B$52.DBD12B2.B$51.B3D9B2AB.B2A$52.D11B2A3B2A$28.
A25.14B.B$27.A.A26.4B.7B$27.A.A3.2A22.4B.7B$26.2A.2A2.2A23.12B$27.B
31.11B$26.2AB8A23.9B.3B$26.2A.A2.A4.A23.12B$24.4B6.BAB.A19.2B.11B2A$
23.3B8.B2A.A2.A15.2A13B2A$18.B2.5B6.A4B.A.A.A14.2AB.10B.B$17.10B4.ABA
B3.A2.A16.B2.10B$17.10B4.A2BA2.2A22.9B$17.15B2A26.10B$16.16B27.11B$
16.16B26.11B$14.17B26.13B$11.AB.17B25.15B$10.A.A17B25.19B$9.A.2A11B2A
5B23.19B2A$9.A.12BA2BA4B22.4B.15B2A$6.2A.A2.B3.7BA2BA3B22.4B.17B$6.A.
2A.A.A.9B2A4B21.19B$10.A.2A.17B18.19B$10.A6.9B3C3B7.A9.20B$9.2A6.9BC
5B5.3A8.20B$18.9BC4B4.A10.7B10.7B$19.5BD8B3.2A8.4B.3B10.7B$20.2B3D13B
7.4B3.2B10.8B$19.3BDBD11B8.4B3.3B10.9B$20.2BD13B7.4B2.5B10.9B$18.20B.
B2.12B10.8B$17.2A30BD4B10.10B$17.2AB.19B4.5BDBD12B2.2B4.2A$18.B2.17B
2D4.5B3D9B.B4.B4.A$24.14B2D4.7BD7B.2B2A3.2A4.3A$22.19B4.10B2.B.BA2.A
4.A6.A$20.A.2AB.3B4.8B4.3B12.3A5.A.A$18.3AB2AB9.4B.2B4.2B22.2A$17.A3.
2B9.5B3.B4.B14.3A$18.3AB2A8.2A7.4B15.A2.A$20.A.A10.A6.6B16.2A$20.A.A
7.3A10.4B$21.A8.A13.4B$45.4B!
but its repeat time is horrible, so that wont fit in the collection.

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: August 1st, 2024, 5:51 am
by Tawal
As I can't connect the input I post here.

Here's a PR144B + G and its related P to G :

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x = 85, y = 53, rule = LifeHistory
4D2.4D4.D6.D6.D3.4D$D3.D.D3.D2.2D5.2D5.2D3.D3.D$D3.D.D3.D3.D4.D.D4.D.
D3.D3.D$4D2.4D4.D3.D2.D3.D2.D3.4D$D5.D2.D4.D3.5D2.5D2.D3.D$D5.D3.D3.D
6.D6.D3.D3.D$D5.D3.D2.3D5.D6.D3.4D4$17.2A48.2A$16.A.A47.A.A$16.A7.A
41.A7.A$15.2A5.3A40.2A5.3A$6.5B4.B5.A34.5B4.B5.A$5.11B3.B.2A32.11B3.B
.2A$5.12B2A4B32.12B2A4B$4.13B2A2B33.13B2A2B$4.20B30.20B$5.20B30.20B$
5.22B28.22B$6.16B.6B27.16B.6B$6.24B2.2B22.24B2.2B$7.27B23.27B$8.2B3E
22B23.2B3E22B$11.BE22B26.BE22B$9.B3E22B24.B3E22B$7.26B24.26B$6.20B30.
20B$6.20B30.20B$6.20B30.20B$7.18B32.18B$6.20B30.20B$6.20B30.20B$5.20B
30.20B$5.22B28.13B3D6B$5.18B2.2A28.15BD2B2.2A$3.2AB.9BD4B4.A27.2AB.
12BDB4.A$2.A.AB.9B2D2B6.3A23.A.AB.13B6.3A$2.A5.7BDBDB9.A23.A5.11B9.A$
.2A5.11B32.2A5.11B$10.9B41.9B$10.8B42.8B$5.2A.A9B42.8B$5.A.2A2.6B43.
7B$11.6B44.6B$12.DB2D46.4B$12.3D47.3B$13.D46.4B$60.2A$61.A$58.3A$58.A
!
Edit:
There is also this PB62H, but not sure of the useful as the FNG is a matter.

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x = 34, y = 40, rule = LifeHistory
3.4D2.4D3.3D3.3D2.D3.D$3.D3.D.D3.D.D5.D3.D.D3.D$3.D3.D.D3.D.D9.D.D3.D
$3.4D2.4D2.4D5.D2.5D$3.D5.D3.D.D3.D3.D3.D3.D$3.D5.D3.D.D3.D2.D4.D3.D$
3.D5.4D3.3D2.5D.D3.D4$20.2A$19.B2AB$20.3B$19.3B$18.6B$16.8B$5.2B2.2B
4.9B$3.D21B$.DBD22B$B3D23B$.D25B$3.25B$8.B.3B2.2B3E9B$16.3BE10B$16.B
3E10B$16.12B.B2A$15.13B.BA.A$15.9B8.A$15.8B9.2A$18.6B$18.6B$18.5B$18.
B2A2B$18.B2A$18.2B$17.2B$17.2AB$13.2A.A.A$13.A.2A.A.A$19.2A!

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: August 2nd, 2024, 2:07 am
by Entity Valkyrie 2
Jormungant wrote: July 29th, 2024, 3:17 am there is the g0-to-h, not sure if that was pointed out before... it basically stem from a g-to-h'

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x = 101, y = 110, rule = LifeHistory
3$58.A6.A.2A$57.A.A.A.3A.2A$56.A2.A.2A8.2A$56.A.A.A3.5A3.A$57.2A.A.2A
3.A2.A$59.B2A2.2A3.3A$55.4B2.2BA2B6.A9.2A$54.8A.3A5.2A9.A$54.A.A5BA.A
B5.5B3.BA.A$55.BA6BA9.5B.B2A$53.4BA4B9.9B$53.2A4.2AB3.3B2.11B$54.A3.
3B3.17B$51.3A4.3B.B.18B$51.A5.8B3A5B3A6B3.A7.2B$56.9BA3BABA3BA5B3.A.A
5.BAB$41.A13.8B2AB2A5B2AB2A3B2.2BAB5.3A2B$41.3A10.9BA13BA2B2.B.2B5.AB
3AB$44.A8.10BABA3B3A3BABA4BA3B4.A.2BAB$43.2A.B5.12B3A7B3AB.B2AB2AB2.B
A2B.A$43.5B2.5B2.21B2.A4BA2B3ABA$34.2A9.9B5.11BA6B4.5B.2B3A$33.A.A8.
9B7.9B3A3B6.A5B2.BAB$33.A8.B.8B9.5B.9B7.4B2.2B$30.2A.AB.B3.11B11.3B2.
9B6.BA2BA$31.A.A.2AB.3B2AB4.2B10.4B3.6B.B2A5.2A$31.A.A.2A5B2AB4.2B10.
B2AB3.6B.BA.A$30.2A.A2.9B4.2B11.2A4.5B5.A$30.A2.4A12B.B2A2.2A.2A9.3B
6.2A$31.2A2.BAB.10B.BA.A2.A.2A$33.2A6.7B5.2A.A$33.A7.7B5.A2.A$35.A9.
4B6.AB2A$34.2A10.4B4.2A.A.A$47.4B4.B.BAB$48.4B2.5B5.2A$49.9B6.A$50.3B
D5B2.BA.A$51.3BD5B.B2A$50.2B3D7B$50.12B$50.12B$48.2AB.2B2A5B$47.A.AB
2.ABA5B$47.A5.BA6B6.2A$46.2A6.7B5.A.A$55.8B3.A$55.9B.2A$54.9BA3.2A$
53.4B.B.3B3A2.A$52.4B.3B2.B3.2A$51.4B2.B2AB2.2A.A$50.4B4.2A4.A.A.A$
49.4B11.A2.2A$48.4B11.2A$47.4B$46.4B$45.4B$44.4B$43.4B$42.4B$41.4B$
40.4B$39.4B$15.A8.A13.4B$14.A.A7.3A10.4B$14.A.A10.A8.4B$12.3AB2A8.2A
7.4B$11.A3.2B9.5B3.4B$12.3AB2AB9.4B.4B$14.A.2AB.3B4.10B.B$16.33B2.B$
18.14B2D11BD7B$12.B2.17B2D9B3D7B$11.2AB.28BDBD9B$11.2A30BD11B$12.20B.
B2.2B2.2B2.10BAB$14.2BD13B14.9BABA$13.3BDBD11B15.8BABA$14.2B3D13B14.
8BA$13.5BD8B3.2A13.10B$12.9BC4B4.A14.9B$3.2A6.9BC5B5.3A11.8B$4.A6.9B
3C3B7.A12.7B$4.A.2A.17B21.5B$A.2A.A.A.9B2A4B24.2B$2A.A2.B3.7BA2BA3B$
3.A.12BA2BA4B$3.A.2A11B2A5B$4.A.A17B$5.AB.17B$8.17B$10.16B$10.16B$11.
15B2A$11.10B4.A2BA2.2A$11.10B4.ABAB3.A2.A$12.B2.5B6.A4B.A.A.A$17.3B8.
B2A.A2.A$18.4B6.BAB.A$20.2A.A2.A4.A$20.2AB8A$21.B$20.2A.2A2.2A$21.A.A
3.2A$21.A.A$22.A!
which in turn can be made into a g-to-h:

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x = 82, y = 55, rule = LifeHistory
3$56.2B2.2B2.B$54.D11B$52.DBD12B2.B$51.B3D9B2AB.B2A$52.D11B2A3B2A$28.
A25.14B.B$27.A.A26.4B.7B$27.A.A3.2A22.4B.7B$26.2A.2A2.2A23.12B$27.B
31.11B$26.2AB8A23.9B.3B$26.2A.A2.A4.A23.12B$24.4B6.BAB.A19.2B.11B2A$
23.3B8.B2A.A2.A15.2A13B2A$18.B2.5B6.A4B.A.A.A14.2AB.10B.B$17.10B4.ABA
B3.A2.A16.B2.10B$17.10B4.A2BA2.2A22.9B$17.15B2A26.10B$16.16B27.11B$
16.16B26.11B$14.17B26.13B$11.AB.17B25.15B$10.A.A17B25.19B$9.A.2A11B2A
5B23.19B2A$9.A.12BA2BA4B22.4B.15B2A$6.2A.A2.B3.7BA2BA3B22.4B.17B$6.A.
2A.A.A.9B2A4B21.19B$10.A.2A.17B18.19B$10.A6.9B3C3B7.A9.20B$9.2A6.9BC
5B5.3A8.20B$18.9BC4B4.A10.7B10.7B$19.5BD8B3.2A8.4B.3B10.7B$20.2B3D13B
7.4B3.2B10.8B$19.3BDBD11B8.4B3.3B10.9B$20.2BD13B7.4B2.5B10.9B$18.20B.
B2.12B10.8B$17.2A30BD4B10.10B$17.2AB.19B4.5BDBD12B2.2B4.2A$18.B2.17B
2D4.5B3D9B.B4.B4.A$24.14B2D4.7BD7B.2B2A3.2A4.3A$22.19B4.10B2.B.BA2.A
4.A6.A$20.A.2AB.3B4.8B4.3B12.3A5.A.A$18.3AB2AB9.4B.2B4.2B22.2A$17.A3.
2B9.5B3.B4.B14.3A$18.3AB2A8.2A7.4B15.A2.A$20.A.A10.A6.6B16.2A$20.A.A
7.3A10.4B$21.A8.A13.4B$45.4B!
but its repeat time is horrible, so that wont fit in the collection.
G3-to-G:

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x = 77, y = 83, rule = B3/S23
76bo$74b2o$75b2o38$15bo$14bobo$14bobo$12b3ob2o$11bo$12b3ob2o16bo$14bob
2o14b2o$33b2o3$11b2o$11b2o$35b2o$35bobo$37bo$31b2o4b2o$31bobo$33bo$3b
2o28b2o$4bo$4bob2o$ob2obobo10b2o$2obo13bo2bo$3bo13bo2bo$3bob2o11b2o$4b
obo$5bo4$26b2o$25bo2bo2b2o$25bobo4bo2bo$26bo5bobobo$29b2obo2bo$29bo2bo
$20b2obo2bo4bo$20b2ob8o2$20b2ob2o2b2o$21bobo3b2o$21bobo$22bo!

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: August 2nd, 2024, 3:22 am
by dvgrn
Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote: August 2nd, 2024, 2:07 am G3-to-G...
That pairs up reasonably nicely with a recently discovered H-to-G3 (SW-5T69) to make an H-to-G with a SE-traveling glider on an adjustable lane:

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x = 71, y = 70, rule = LifeHistory
58.2A2.A$59.4A$57.A5.2A2.2A$57.5A.A2.A.A$61.A.BABA$57.2A3.B2A2.A$56.B
2AB2.4B2A$56.3B2.3B.B2.2A$57.2B.6B2A2.A$55.10B2.A.2A$55.10B2.A$54.11B
3.3A$53.13B4.A$54.12B$55.13B$55.13B$54.13B$53.3BC11B$52.4BCBC10B$51.
5B3C4B.B2AB2A$50.8BC4B2.A3.A$49.13B4.3A$48.8B4.B3.A.A$47.7B10.2A6$41.
7B$40.7B$27.A11.7B$27.3A4.11B$9.A20.A2.11B$8.A.A18.2A2.10B$9.A14.A4.
13B$24.3A4.11B$7.5A15.A2.13B$6.A4.A14.2A2.4BA4B.4B$5.A.BAB16.3B.3BABA
9B$5.A.2AB18.6B2A5B.4B$2.2A.A.4BA15.13B3.4B$2.2A.A3.BABA14.11B6.4B$5.
2A2.A2BA13.12B7.4B$5.A4.2A3B7.16B8.4B$3.A.A6.5B.2B2.14B11.4B$.3A.2A5.
24B12.4B$A4.B6.25B12.4B$.3AB2AB4.25B13.4B$3.A.2AB2.9B2A16B14.4B$7.11B
A2BA14B16.4B$7.11BA2BA16B15.4B$8.11B2A6B2.5B.B2A.A$9.17B3.5B.B2AB3A$
9.16B4.5B3.B4.A$10.15B6.B4.2A.3A$10.14B6.3B4.A.A$9.14B7.B2AB3.A.A$10.
12B9.2A5.A$13.8B$15.4B$15.4B$17.3B.2A$16.B2A2B.A$16.A.AB.A$17.A4.3A$
18.4A2.A$21.A$20.A$20.2A!
I haven't checked whether it actually produces different timings compared to every similar-sized structure that we know about -- like the various G0s plus semi-Snarks and semi-cenarks, and plain Snarks plus various shifters, and so on. It's a standard boat-turner attached to the Herschel's first natural glider, so we've known about larger engineered ways to get those glider timings for decades now. But I don't think we've seen anything with this small a bounding box.

Maybe the most similar existing technology is the various small G4 and G5 converters plus the loaf2GtoG.

(Hm, Guam's loaf2GtoG doesn't have any hits on LifeWiki yet. Seems like it's small and paleo-Spartan enough to deserve some documentation.)

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: August 3rd, 2024, 2:46 pm
by Jormungant
Alternative silverman g-to-h

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x = 81, y = 68, rule = LifeHistory
12.3B$12.4B37.2B$13.4B4.A9.A20.5B$14.4B3.3A5.3A19.7B$15.4B5.A3.A21.8B
$16.4B3.2A.B.2A20.9B$17.4B2.7B20.10B$18.4B3.3B23.8BA$19.4B.5B21.8BABA
$20.9B19.10BABA$21.3BC5B6.2B3.2B2.2B.11BAB$22.3BC22BD11B$23.3C22BDBD
9B$23.14B2C9B3D7B$21.16B2C11BD7B$21.4B2A27B2.B$20.4BA2BA7B.2B.3B.3B$
19.2AB2.B2A2B.B.4B6.4B$18.A.AB2.5B4.4B4.4B$18.A6.2B7.4B2.4B$17.2A6.4B
6.8B$27.2A7.6B$27.A9.4B$28.3A5.6B$30.A4.8B14.2A$34.4B2.4B6.2A4.B2AB5.
2A$33.4B4.4B6.A5.3B5.A$32.4B6.4B5.A.AB3.B3.BA.A$31.4B8.4B5.2AB.5B.B2A
$30.4B10.4B6.9B$29.4B12.4B5.9B$28.4B14.4B4.6B2AB$27.4B11.B4.4B3.6B2A$
26.4B10.5B3.14B2.2B$17.B7.4B11.22B.4B$15.4B5.4B12.27B$15.5B3.4B12.29B
$14.7B.4B13.31B$13.12B15.31B$5.2A5.12B16.30B$6.A5.11B17.31B$6.A.AB2.
10B19.31B$7.2AB.10B18.25B2.B2.4B$9.15B14.26B6.4B$9.17B4.3B.B3.26B7.4B
$9.19B.2BA5B.26B8.4B$10.3BD16BABA32B8.4B$9.2A2BDBD14BABA32B9.3B$4.2A
3.2A2B2D16BA34B9.2B$3.A2.A3.56B10.B$3.A.ABA.57B$2.2A.A.A58B$3.A.BA23B
4.34B$3.A2.2B.12B3.7B5.32B$.A.2A.B4.9B4.6B7.31B$A.A2.A.A3.2B.4B5.7B
11.15B.12B$A2.A2.2A2.7B5.7B13.14B2.11B$.2A7.A.2A9.6B14.10B5.11B$6.5A.
A10.5B16.10B4.9B.B2A$6.A5.A.A10.3B14.12B5.B4.3B.BA.A$8.A3.2A.A9.2B15.
12B17.A$7.2A6.A10.2B10.A.2AB.9B18.2A$15.2A8.B2AB7.3AB2AB.7B$26.2A7.A
4.B4.5B$36.3A.2A$38.A.A$38.A.A$39.A!
it is 6 ticks slower, but, well, it is not spartan.

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: August 3rd, 2024, 10:35 pm
by confocaloid
What is the fastest known way to transform the output Herschel of the G-to-H into the input Herschel of the boat factory?

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x = 121, y = 113, rule = B3/S23
55bo$54bobo$54bobo$53b2ob3o$59bo$44b3o6b2ob3o$44bo8b2obo$43b3o4$68bo$
66b3o$65bo$65b2o2$4b2o55b2o$3bo2bo54b2o$4b2o7$39bo$9b2o28b3o$9bo32bo$
7b3o31b2o$51b2o$51bo$49bobo$43b2o4b2o$42bo2bo$43b2o$19bo11b2o$19b3o9b
2o$21bo$21bo4$2o$2o$6b2o32b2o3b2o$6b2o33bo3bo$38b3o5b3o$38bo9bo$4b2o$
4b2o5b2o$11b2o7$64b3o$64bo$65bo51$119bo$118b2o$118bobo!
#C [[ THEME LifeHistory ]]

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: August 4th, 2024, 5:14 am
by Tawal
confocaloid wrote: August 3rd, 2024, 10:35 pm What is the fastest known way to transform the output Herschel of the G-to-H into the input Herschel of the boat factory?

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rle
I think it will be hard to improve this way :

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$ ./hersrch -p 997 -c 62 -o SilverBoat.rle -n 50 -s -x 10000 -u 1000 -t 100 -e "(a=50..1000)F(0)[0,0]..B(a)[21,35]"
Accepted 951 targets
Loaded 61 components, 151 variants
Prepared 10 components, 13 variants
Building Aho/Corasick tree...
Tree built: 192 nodes, 137 sequences, complete to depth 3
Counting component sets...
Found 16156 component sets
Searching...
Search complete

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: August 4th, 2024, 5:28 am
by confocaloid
Tawal wrote: August 4th, 2024, 5:14 am
confocaloid wrote: August 3rd, 2024, 10:35 pm What is the fastest known way to transform the output Herschel of the G-to-H into the input Herschel of the boat factory?

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rle
I think it will be hard to improve this way :

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$ ./hersrch -p 997 -c 62 -o SilverBoat.rle -n 50 -s -x 10000 -u 1000 -t 100 -e "(a=50..1000)F(0)[0,0]..B(a)[21,35]"
There is a reasonably fast true-Spartan solution, as long as you are willing to sacrifice real-Life asymmetry:

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x = 408, y = 402, rule = B3/S23
405bobo$405b2o$406bo51$352bo$351bo$351b3o52$299bo$297b2o$298b2o50$198b
2o$199bo$199bobo42bo$200b2o42bobo$244b2o2$203b2o$203b2o5$190b2o$191bo$
191bobo$177b2o13b2o$177b2o37bo$216b3o$219bo$171b2o45b2o$171b2o60b2o$
175b2o56bo$175b2o15bo38bobo$192bo27bo10b2o$192b3o24bobo$194bo24bobo$
170b2o42b2o4bo$170b2o41bobo15b2o$213bo17bobo$212b2o19bo$233b2o3$209b2o
$184b2o22bobo$184bo24bo$182b3o37b2o$222b2o9$184b2o$184b2o37b3o$198bo
24bo$197bobo22b2o$197b2o3$173b2o$174bo19b2o$174bobo17bo$175b2o15bobo
41b2o$187bo4b2o42b2o$186bobo24bo$186bobo24b3o$175b2o10bo27bo$174bobo
38bo15b2o$174bo56b2o$173b2o60b2o$188b2o45b2o$188bo$189b3o$191bo37b2o$
214b2o13b2o$214bobo$216bo$216b2o5$203b2o$203b2o2$162b2o$161bobo42b2o$
163bo42bobo$208bo$208b2o50$108b2o$109b2o$108bo52$54b3o$56bo$55bo51$bo$
b2o$obo!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: August 4th, 2024, 5:45 am
by Tawal
I rapidly make a working circuit but the RT is 649 !

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x = 123, y = 106, rule = LifeHistory
48.2A$48.A.A$50.A4.2A$46.4A.2A2.A2.A$46.A2.A.A.A.A.2A$48.BABABA.A$49.
B2ABA.A$50.2B.BA$49.3B$40.2A6.4B$41.A6.B2A3B$41.A.AB3.B2A3B$42.2AB.
10B$37.A6.13B$28.A7.A.A5.14B$28.3A4.2BAB5.15B$31.A4.2B8.8B2.4B$30.2A
5.4B5.6B5.4B$18.B.7B3.3B3.6B3.9B4.4B$12.B.13B5.3B2.5B2.4B4.2A5.4B$7.
21BD10BD7B5.A7.4B$2C3.D21BD10B2D6B7.3A5.4B$2C2.B3D18B2D11B2D4B10.A6.
4B$5.DBD15B2A2B2D16B5.2A11.4B$7.D15B2A3BD16B5.A13.4B$9.2B2.2B3.27B2.B
A.A14.4B$19.10B2.B3.B.9B.B2A16.4B$22.6B9.11B19.4B$24.3B10.11B20.4B$
26.B8.2AB.9B21.4B$26.2A6.A.AB2.7B23.4B$27.A6.A5.8B23.4B$24.3A6.2A4.8B
25.4B$24.A14.7B27.4B$38.11B25.4B$39.11B25.4B$39.11B26.4B$39.11B27.4B$
37.2AB2.4B3DB28.4B$36.A.AB3.4BD2B29.4B$36.A6.2B3D2B30.4B$35.2A7.6B31.
4B$44.7B31.4B$46.B.4B31.4B$49.2B20.4B9.4B$50.B19.6B9.4B$69.9B8.4B$69.
9B9.4B$63.3B3.9B10.4B$62.16B11.4B$47.2A13.16B12.4B$47.2A12.18B12.4B$
60.BC17B7.2B4.4B$60.CBC17B5.4B4.4B$60.2C19B4.4B5.4B$61.20B4.4B6.4B$
63.21B.5B.2B3.4B13.A$36.2A25.31B3.4B10.3A$37.A19.2A3.33B3.4B8.A$37.A.
A17.A4.33B4.4B7.2A$38.2A15.A.A4.33B5.4B3.5B$50.A4.2A5.33B6.4B2.3B$49.
A.A10.33B7.9B7.2A$49.A.A8.2AB.31B2A6.8B8.A$38.2A10.A8.A.AB2.30BA.A6.
10B3.B.A.2A$37.A.A19.A5.28B4.A6.7B2A2B.B3A2.A$37.A20.2A6.26B5.2A5.7B
2A3BAB2.2A$36.2A30.11B2.10B13.12B4A$51.2A19.8B.9B12.2AB.7B3.2B.A$51.A
21.7B2.9B10.A.AB.7B2.B3A$52.3A20.6B2.8B10.A5.4B4.A$54.A21.4B3.9B8.2A
5.4B5.5A$75.B2A2B4.7B15.4B10.A$76.2A6.4B2A2B13.4B9.A$84.3BA2BAB12.4B
10.2A$82.B.4B2A2B11.4B$80.11B11.4B$73.B4.12B11.4B$72.2AB.15B9.4B$72.
2A17B8.4B$73.B.17B6.4B$77.15B5.4B$77.4B2.10B3.4B$25.2A52.B3.10B2.4B$
24.A.A56.10B.4B$26.A55.17B$81.19B$81.20B$80.22B$73.A5.22B$73.3A3.22B$
76.A2.20B$75.A2.AB.17B$75.4A18B$79.15B$77.2AB2.5B2A4B$77.A4.4B.2A.5B$
74.2A.A5.2B8.2A$74.A2.A.2A.2B2A7.A$76.2A.A.2BA.BA7.3A$80.A2.B2A.A8.A$
81.A5.A$79.A.6A$78.A.A3.A$78.A2.A$79.2A!

Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Posted: August 5th, 2024, 1:50 am
by confocaloid
confocaloid wrote: July 21st, 2024, 8:38 pm
confocaloid wrote: July 17th, 2024, 5:02 pm
Tawal wrote: July 17th, 2024, 3:46 pm 2 ways to hit a Boat with a Glider : [...]
Unfortunately, boats do not appear to form easily in the "tail forward" direction. [...]
[...] Here is a working highway robber that uses the same catalysed one-time glider splitter reaction. [...]
Here is another possible way to restore the boat

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x = 89, y = 94, rule = LifeHistory
2.A$A.A$.2A4$15.A$16.A$14.3A30$87.A$80.2A4.A$41.BD37.A5.3A$40.DBDB34.
A.A$41.2D2B27.3B3.2A$42.4B18.B2.3B.4B$43.4B16.14B$44.5B12.17B$45.6B.B
2.D2.15B2E3B$45.11BD16BEBEB$45.9B3D15B.BEB$46.22B.B$46.21B$47.10BD10B
$47.10B2D9B$47.9BDBD10B$48.20B$49.4B.B5.8B$62.5B$64.B34$17.A$17.2A$
16.A.A!